Spirituality, Astrology, Destiny, B. Geeta, Celibacy

[Basab]

Deepakji,

Aseem has always told me that I should work and encouraged me a lot, and he is as much concerned about me as you are. About what he writes here, I told you before also that we do indulge in fooling around a bit when we come here. So don't take everything that he writes here seriously.

Thank you for the wishes.

Basab Ji , Good to know that Aseem also thinks on my lines, though that was not the impression I got when I read his posts on the forum . Any way, I wish you the very best in life .

Best regards,

[Sudarshang]

Sudarshang,

I am neither walking the path of Bhakti, nor the path of Jnana. Spirituality is a subject of interest to me. I read books on it, but that's where it ends. When it comes to the spirituality I follow in life, I don't know in which category it falls or whether it can be called spirituality at all. I believe in formless God, but I talk to Him, sometimes, as in, sharing my problems with him, when I am in a very senti mood. So it is a mix of Bhakti and Jnana as you can see. I don't believe in praying to God for something because I know if and when He thinks necessary, He will provide help, in which He never fails. I also believe that destiny is predestined, that is, whatever is destined, will happen, and no one can stop that. This strong belief about destiny is the mantra of my life. This is what my life revolves around. Some may say that excess belief in destiny may make a person a fatalist. I don't believe in that, one bit. Lord Kirshna says to Arjuna that believe this that you make your destiny, but know this to be the truth that everything is predestined. I feel that even the person who believes in destiny can't surrender himself to it, completely. It is not possible. I have seen that in my own life, time and again. There have come situations in my life when my mom has told me to try to accept my fate, but I have said, I can't sit back and suffer as it was too much to bear and I tried my best to get out of the difficulty. I will just give a small incident from my life, which shows why we can't surrender ourselves to destiny, even if we believe that everything is predestined:

One day when I went to bed at night, I felt a terrible pain in my stomach, and it kept going on non-stop, making me miserable. My mind in a sarcastic mood told me "Don't you believe in surrendering to destiny?" I thought, that if I was to follow what I believe in, I should not think of taking any medicine but quietly suffer my destiny. I tried that for a few more seconds and then I thought to myself, what a fool I am, I am foolishly suffering when there is a medicine for that and I just have to get out of the bed and have it. I got out of bed and had a couple of antacid pills, got relief in a few minutes, and thought to myself, I don't follow what I believe in, fully because when the suffering became too much for me to bear, I took the route of free will.

Now, belief in destiny helps in many ways. It helps you accept all your miseries, which you would not be able to accept if you think of that from a logical perspective. Sometimes we wonder why we suffer, why we have to face humiliation, when we have not done anything wrong, when we have been a good person all through, and then, just the one magic word, 'destiny' makes us accept it, wonderfully, that which we can't accept, otherwise. I have seen people around me, who doesn't stop crying over something lost or doesn't stop brooding over some failure in life because they want the answer to the big question: why did it happen to them? They will cry and cry and cry over it, but they will find it difficult to accept it because they don't believe in destiny. If you believe in destiny, you will not ask why because you have the answer to that why: it is destiny. So belief in everything to be predestined is the best course, I believe.

Now you are talking the langauge of Bhakti Yoga.

Very nice, I understand your premise on spirituality - there is still a long way to go, and I sure you will make good progress along the way. Best Wishes for that.

[sita]

Very nice, I understand your premise on spirituality - there is still a long way to go, and I sure you will make good progress along the way. Best Wishes for that.

Yes Bassu.. u write very well...I dont have the time to read even a single book on spirituality ....may be some day I will gain something from ur knowledge and experience.

[Nitin21]

Good day Sonu Bhai,

Thank you for those kind words . Well It is money which runs the world . That same money can corrupt a person and at the same time it can be used to help people lead a better life . Not all people who seem materialistic are greedy . For all you know, they might be trying to create wealth so that they can share it with the world . Some people have fantastci Raja Yogas which can help them earn money . He can us this God given gift to earn wealth and then share it with the world . Is that not being Spiritual ? God would be pleased with this gesture . I said this before , If you sat in front of god praying, while a man stood hungy and dying at the door .... what would God expect you to do ? Pray , or get up and feed the man and save him from dying . I think God would be more happy If he saw you helping another one of his creatures . That is my policy .

Best regard's

Perfect !!! It is inline with Dharma. Not only that, while you are in prayer, and if an elder calls you for service even within the family, The Lord advises us to first discharge that duty. Because, elders are achala murty of Lord for us in this world. They deserve to be served first, is the Lords dictum, as per my Guruji's teachings.

The only thing to be kept in mind is that Prayers and Help towards poor is not an either or. Most people after charity think that it is the most superlative karma and what is God, who is god etc. Once that thought crosses the mind, the punya of charity is lost and the purpose too. Because you do charity to please the Lord, within the poor. The poor himself is not the entity to be pleased. Every act within us is governed by the Lord and has to be surrendered to the Lord only.

If you indulge in blasphemy towards the Lord and do the charity, it is like taking insulin while eating a box of Rosogullas. You end up nowhere.

Keep up your good work Sir.

Regards
Sonu

[Dev]

Sonu:

Well said. There are several puranic kathas where some have kept even rishis waiting to serve their parents first and then open the door to welcome the rishi. This made even Durvasa rishi angry and he gave shaap. In fact even God when he came in disguise as a brahmin was made to wait and he appreciated the one serving his parents first.

Similarly satvik, rajasik and tamasik daan are there. Only when u do satvik daan, it is worth and becomes a nishkamya karma. U have to do it just thinking that God has given you more than the other and asking u to help the other. No ego involved. Of course it is difficult but can be developed slowly.
Many today want their names in the tubelight they donate. In fact someone told me that a person got all his family names written with dark sketch pen on the tubelight that the tubelight glow was not good enough or it could not serve its purpose at all.

Also donating once and saying it 1001 times would be highly irritating and some are doing that, but even that whether they have really donated even once is a question mark since we have not checked.

Dev

[sita]

Also donating once and saying it 1001 times would be highly irritating and some are doing that, but even that whether they have really donated even once is a question mark since we have not checked.

very well said!

[sita]

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Many today want their names in the tubelight they donate. In fact someone told me that a person got all his family names written with dark sketch pen on the tubelight that the tubelight glow was not good enough or it could not serve its purpose at all.

cant stop laughing...

[Basab]

Thank you, Sudarshang. Yeah, I have just started on the path to spirituality, and I hope I will progress with time, but I also hope to enjoy the materialistic life.

Very nice, I understand your premise on spirituality - there is still a long way to go, and I sure you will make good progress along the way. Best Wishes for that.

[Basab]

Thank you, Sita. I am glad to know that you like my writing. Writing is something I love; that's one of the reasons I am here. About spirituality, yeah I will definitely try to share what I have read and experienced.

Yes Bassu.. u write very well...I dont have the time to read even a single book on spirituality ....may be some day I will gain something from ur knowledge and experience.

[sita]

Thnx Bassu...and one more thing Dev Sir also writes very well!

[Basab]

[sita]

U both r too good in writing...

[Basab]

It's okay, I was joking.

[sita]

God knows...one day I'll read books on spirituality written by both of u ...but may be on that day too,u both would be arguing about piracy rights ......but their is no denial that u both r very good writers....so plz give us some knowlegde as much as possible ...atleast before 2012.

[Basab]

Thank you, Sita. If I ever write a book I would name it, "The Fan", which will be about my being a fan of my favourite actress, and not on spirituality. Why before 2012? After that you can always be a householder yogini.

[sita]

Thank u Papaji !

[Basab]

Now guys, something from my chart now: I am running the period of 8th lord in the 8th house, and 8th house is about enjoying unearned money, which I am doing, but then, that's till the age of 36, when I will start the period of Sun, the 11th lord of earnings in the 9th house of fortune, so I will earn a lot of money in that period, on my own. The next period after that is the period of the Moon, the 10th lord in the 10th house, and it will make me work, too. After that I will get the period of Mars, which is the 2nd and 7th lord in the 12th house, will it lead to divorce with wife? Astrologically I don't see a chance of joining an ashram and detaching myself from the world, but logically it seems like that. Time will tell what happens.

[sita]

Dear Bassu,

We both r going thru the same mahadasha.....the planetary positions are almost the same but lagna is different...my Sun MD(10 L) is going to start from Nov...then MD of 9th L and then MD of Lagna Lord

[Basab]

Sita,

I know we have same planetary positions: it's because we were born in the same year, the same month, just not the same day. You are lucky that you will get all favourable periods in life. Enjoy.

[sita]

Thnx.....I'll never forget this Double Markesh Dasha

[Basab]

Double marakesh dasha? You are not getting any such dasha.

[sita]

Talking abt the present Venus MD.

[Basab]

Yeah, that's true. I forgot about it's placement. It treated you well, so why complain?

[sita]

yeahh bassu u r right by giving four life-death incidents it treated me really very well .....thnk god venus MD consists of 20yrs ONLY ......but it gave me a lot...there is no denial

[Basab]

Well, you said you faced death thrice, when did the fourth one happen? I hope you didn't have to face another one in the recent times. Venus gave you good results because of malavya yoga. You have a very good chart, and you will have a very good life, always.