Ashtama Shani always bad?

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himanshut
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Hi,

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DOB: 10th July 1985
Time: 11:36 AM
Place: Sindri, Jharkhand ( Bihar)

I was told that I am running an ashtma Shani period...can someone guide me about the details of the same and I am going through a really rough phase in my life...this is also a period o Saturn Antardasha which has escalated the effects I suppose...kindly help regarding the same...
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It is said that if Ashtami shani coincides with Shani return, i.e. Natal Saturn placed 8th from Moon, the Ahtami effects are less severe for the native. Well, we'll see, mine's coming up soon.
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I've been under ashtama shani and i never was conscious about things happening around me . Its going to end this nov. All i can say is time keeps moving and you wont even realise what is happening in your life, unless you stop and think of the past instead of thinking about the future. :)
"Asatoma sadgamaya tamasoma jyotirgamaya mrtyorma amrtamgamaya"
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anxious2711 wrote:It is said that if Ashtami shani coincides with Shani return, i.e. Natal Saturn placed 8th from Moon, the Ahtami effects are less severe for the native. Well, we'll see, mine's coming up soon.
Results will always be more pronounced during saturn return,ashtam shani etc etc if one happens to run the period/sub period of saturn simultaneously,otherwise effets may be negligible

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As I’m going through my ashtama sani I’m tempted to share my exp of this phase. My moon and lagna both are in Aquarius and for me it started when Sa moved into virgo. It coincided with Saturn return and last dasha/bhukti (Sa/Ju) of Sa MD. Shani caught me unaware while I was busy making plans for future. So far this phase has been most traumatic, I can easily say worst of my entire life. I lost my job 2 times and still jobless, forced to move to another city and had to go through severe emotional trauma due to a strained relationship. I forced myself into solitude and became complete loner without friends. Entire period has been very mentally agonizing and depressing. My sleep patterns have been erratic and sometimes entire night goes without sleep, just in thinking. It feels like whatever I have earned in my life till now I’ll lose all by the end of this phase.

Sa is my lagna lord & AK and placed in 8th so I think lotz of unpaid past life debts. Life has been slow with full of delays n obstructions and since it’s a transit from moon one is bound to experience anxiety, emotional upheavals and negativity in thoughts. Shani pushes u to the limit…it shows the lows of life but also tells you from where you can rise again. I had lost the job at the start of my asthma shani…. during Sa/Ju/Ve with Ju casting aspect on 10H and Ve being yogkaraka, I got a job with double hike. Saturn return has resulted in many personal transformations. It has shown me spiritual side of life, made me less critical, more accepting and patient. I think if shani has to teach u something it will do so irrespective of its placement or rashi. For me Sa MD was itself very challenging…I’m just waiting for Nov’11 when both ashtama shani and Sa MD will get over. I don’t regret what I had been through coz now I know what to expect from life and where to take it from here. I’m sure Me MD will be good as shani never fail to deliver after giving hardships. Lesson learnt- just be patient coz time keeps changing. :)

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Nina
What do you mean Ketu is highest?
As per JHora Ketu's Vimsopaka bala is 15.3, the highest.
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Hi Roops,

My experience of ashtama shani and saturn return is very similar to yours. My lagna and moon both are in aquarius. Mentally agonizing and depressing is exactly how I would describe it. Its like I have hit the low of all lows. It has also been full of delays and obstructions on the career front, personal front - life seems to be stuck with no forward movement and worst of all no hope. Job loss happened but I managed to find another job even if its not a great job. Its the relationship loss/break that has been the most agonizing for me :( The transit has definitely shown me the spiritual side, which is a great positive and I know the lessons learnt are for the ultimate good but negative thoughts do creep in from to time. I was/am not under Saturn MD or bhukti during the ashtama shani/saturn return but the transit has had an intense impact on me. I shudder to think how sade-sati will be during my saturn MD - still a few years away but still wonder.

I hope Nov 2011 onwards is betterfor all. Wish you the best!
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Hello Astro123 and other learned members,

I am very curious on how I can interpret/expect during the Ashtama shani that started this November for me. I am Makara Lagna with Moon in Meenam under Poorvabhadra. I am running Me/Sa dasha now and I am very curious as to what to expect during this 2.5 years coming?
May 7, 1975 - 00:27 at Srirangam, India. Now Sa is a benefic for me L1/L2 and is with Ve in 6th in my natal chart. With respect to Me, Sa is the in second house to it (Me is in 5th house). Sa is transiting my natal 10th house. Will it mean good for my career or bad? With respect to moon, will Sa act a benefic or malefic?

I am running Sa antardasha while running Ashtama Shani. What is the impact of that? Moon is waning in my case. I would appreciate insights for the members.

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I had my Ashtama Shani in 2007 - 2009. Part of this period also coincided with Jupiter transit in its debilitated state in my moon sign Makara.

Career issues; issues with spouse; general lack of energy; disappointments and humiliation from various quarters; were the negatives.

Positives were birth of my child; involvement in spiritual sadhana than ever before; some career advancement in between; some gain in astrological knowledge; better appreciation of my real assets; a mental attitude of patience and surrender.

Chanting Maha Mrityunjaya mantra; the 3rd Anuvaka of Chamakam and Dasaratha Kritha Sani stotram helped.

My advice is : Be mentally prepared to “Never succumb to ego“ & to “Avoid reliance on all short cuts“ & be satisfied with whatever is procured by hard work & remember the golden words “This too will pass“
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Dear astrologers,

Ashtama shani is going to start for Aries rashi from November '14. Can anybody let me know the effects of this in my chart. I am in very bad state career wise.

DoB: 24/03/1977
PoB: 77E35, 12N59 + 5:30 GMT
ToB: 08:55 AM

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[quote=astroboy post_id=73000 time=1304407108 user_id=2304]
Good day all ,

[b]26 04 1973
00 26
Mangalore [/b]

Astama Shani started on the 1st of November 2006 . By the time it ended in September 2009 , I was the shadow of the Man I used to be . Too may bitter tears had rained down on me . Shani dragged me through the mud and smashed me within a Inch of my life . Its a miracle that I survived it .

Now what made it so bad ? Shani is the lagna lord and should not have caused so much trouble

Reasons are

[b]1. Shani goes to his enemies house in the 8th . Simha is his hated sign .
2. Shani is in the 8th house in Navamsha
3. Dasha was of the 12th lord . 12th lord was is in debilitation [/b].
4. [color=#FF0000][b][u]Most importantly . Shani gets only 1 point in the AV chart . This is a killer combo [/u][/b][/color].


Best regard's
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Hi.....

Exactly same experience for me also. Even word by word. Thanks for sharing the experience.

Regards,

SM1983
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Dear Ninaji,

If you are still active on the forum , kindly can you give the birth details of the native above having Taurus lagna, if only you are comfortable and active.

thanks and best regards
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My Ashtama Shani was great. Saturn in virgo (8th from my moon) was some of my better years recently.

No health issue, nothing really negative that I can remember happened. I do recall working on projects with friends and having fun in my career, my parents home (I was there at the time) was renovated and everything felt new and wonderful+ Much more "high class". Lots of guests/parties and overall a fine time.

April 15, 1985
10:54am
toronto, ontario - canada
(I know the birthtime could possibly be Cancer lagna too.... but point of this is just to show what the planet plalcements are, and you can see from my Chandra lagna how Ashtama shani looked).
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Hi

Sorry for the most basic question but I'm in a doubt. I'm a learner of astrology.,

Is ashtama Shani counted from where the moon is placed or from the lagna ?

Let's say moon is lagna lord for a cancer ascendant native and is placed in 12th house from the lagna.

Saturn is placed in 5th house. So, is saturn now in astama shani during its present transit (Capricorn)? Or will be in astama in the next transit?

Kind regards
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Dear GNE

Could you please cast the Ashtama Shani for the following native? Is it ongoing now or will come after 1.5 years? Sorry I had this doubt as I'm a learner here on the forum and I don't know if ashtama is to be calculated from moon or lagna.

9 March 1987
3.15 PM
Chennai

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Nora



[quote=GNE post_id=262736 time=1530282264 user_id=9608]
My Ashtama Shani was great. Saturn in virgo (8th from my moon) was some of my better years recently.

No health issue, nothing really negative that I can remember happened. I do recall working on projects with friends and having fun in my career, my parents home (I was there at the time) was renovated and everything felt new and wonderful+ Much more "high class". Lots of guests/parties and overall a fine time.

April 15, 1985
10:54am
toronto, ontario - canada
(I know the birthtime could possibly be Cancer lagna too.... but point of this is just to show what the planet plalcements are, and you can see from my Chandra lagna how Ashtama shani looked).
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I didnt read through the entire thread response, ideally we all fear from Shani. But from my exp, wanted to admit that the best planet is shani provided we understand his importance. Shani says be responsible, choose your priority and be disciple etc.

These are realized by respective individuals based on the power of saturn, if saturn in debiliated or weak, the lessons are harsh through which we have to learn and if saturn is exalted the lessons are not that harsh, we understand or we aling with his principle.

Example : In my chart, saturn 6th lord in 4th house with 12 lord (moon) conjuction. So i have lot of responsibilities at home and should take care expenses at home, but it was in an enemy place so i didnt bother to follow saturn rules so when asthama shani started in thula for scorpio saturn and moon, i got an oppurtunity to travel abroad twice and earned a good amount and spent all of them in abroad in enjoying (12th houses of loss) after i came back to india 2 and half years i have to go through really great struggle to understand the value of money and saturn again gave me an oppurtunity when he was transiting through scorpio again got an oppurtunity to travel and this time i saved all the money closed my debts becz i realized my responsibility, further to add jupiter (wisdom, right and wrong) was aspecting my lagna.

So therby, ashtma shani in my regard is really good which will fix things provided we understand what shani is trying to teach us.
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@Roops - Not sure if you are still active but I would like to know how your life changed once Ashtam Shani was over. Your experience is word by word similar to mine. I am 41 years old and my Ashtam Shani started in Jan 2023. I was in a stable high paying job and I lost my job in Feb 2023. I went through a hellish experience and then found another job with 50% hike in Aug. 2023. I started the job and it was the worse decision of my life. I had so much work that I could not eat or sleep. I used to work non stop under an abusive management. In Jan 2024 I lost my job again. This is under Moon MD and Rahu AD. I am still without a job and I have 8 months of Ashtam Shani still left. My Rahu AD will get over in July 2025. I have two kids and a family that is dependent on me. I am blowing through my savings that I had kept to buy a house. I am kark rashi and capricorn lagan.

Hari

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