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Dev
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OK, but I dont know when we can meet. i dont know where u live? Let me think of some other way.

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loooooooool welll theres always skype : p btw i live in America
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Fine, but I dont know your skype id. Sure, there are even people learning through skype.
Well, I did not know you before unfortunately. Since I was in the US during 2004-06.
Are u an Indian, if so from which state? Your name Murad rhymes well with Narad, a person associated withj music. He is suppose to be a genius also well versed in music.
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i use my moms skype lol XD but ima make my own tomorrow tho i neeed to sleep , Nha im not indian ahaha but i heard its a indian name as for Narad of course anything that rymphes with my name has to be genius :roll:
jk :l i live in Washington State home of the Evergreen :mrgreen:
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Dear Dev,

When you sing and play for Murad, Dont forget me i will be there as you find me in audience :D and you will hear the sound of plaudit from me and audience. :D

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Anilesh:

No I will not forget you, you are not only a forum friend but also Kemadruma friend(both of us have with cancellation) and rasi friend(same rasi) :D . Both have moon with highest shadbala and highest astavarga too. I need you, after all we need appreciation and then can sing with more enthusiasm.
Thank you for your offer.

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Ya, thats the scorpian attitude dost. :D
All People laugh on me because I am Different but I laugh on them because They all are Same. This is my attitude. So "Think Different, Do Different and Be Different"!
ganeshgadag

namaste leong ji and ramanan ji

i am libra ascendant and my 9th lord mercury placed in 12th and exalted , so the above rule apply to it ,


2) If a planet ruling a Bhava goes into the 4th from that Bhava, the LATTER Bhava would be totally under the control of the FORMER Bhava. This would mean if the LATTER Bhava is a Dusthana, the good effects are multiplied.
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Hi

Next principle ....

Moon with saturn angular makes the person dull-witted.

Cannot resist to put in the above principle as well. So you can seee Moon with Saturn in Kendra comes with a lot meaning - good luck, dull witted, bad for relatinships (for certain Saturn angular positions) and for certain Moon signs like Capricorn and aspected by Saturn can lead to wealth.

On top of that Shrinkanth has mentioned that Moon with Saturn, makes the person tired easily where the mind is concerned. His mind needs periodic rest. If the pair of planets are angular, all the more so.

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Hi

The dull wittedness principle is also from Jataka Tatva.

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Hi

Another source I read (could be Jataka Tatva in another chapter but cannot be sure) says that Moon+Saturn gives a person a calm, reflective and calculative mind.

The above will largely calm the anxious mind caused by Moon+Ketu especially if Saturn is in its own sign - this liner is my opinion.

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Hi

The Moon+Saturn for good luck is only true when both are in ANGLES - refer to the earlier part of this thread.

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ganeshgadag

namaste leong ji, ramanan ji ,

do above rule

(2) If a planet ruling a Bhava goes into the 4th from that Bhava, the LATTER Bhava would be totally under the control of the FORMER Bhava. This would mean if the LATTER Bhava is a Dusthana, the good effects are multiplied

apply to it , i am libra ascendant , jupiter in 9th and mercury in 12th ,

according to it ,12th house effects should be lost
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Hii khoo,

If debilitate moon is aspected by retro sat and sat is in kendra but moon is not in kendra. So is it good luck for native?

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Hi Anilesh:

If I may intervene, in your case, moon has neecha bhanga since mars is in kendra from moon, also mars is also aspecting moon apart from sat. Also moon has high astavarga and shadbala. Then why do u worry?

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Hii dev, not at all. your views are welcome. Well i m worry because right now i am going through a very tough phase. Ven-sat dasha is running, Which gives me a lot of tensions and due to this sometimes my health goes detriorate and sometimes i feel that i m going to be mad. What should i do, pls tell me dev and khoo. When will my mind gets relief?
All People laugh on me because I am Different but I laugh on them because They all are Same. This is my attitude. So "Think Different, Do Different and Be Different"!
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Anilesh:

I feel sorry to hear that. Please do some puja on Goddess Parvati on mondays, keep fast on purnima and do read some slokas also. Donate white cloth for moon. Pray to Mahalakshmi on fridays and do gauseva. Also do charity to handicapped on sat and chant Hanuman Chalisa on sat.
This is what I know.
Do get opinion from experts like Khoo, Astroboy and others.

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Hii Dev,

Thanks for your concern. I will do this.


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All People laugh on me because I am Different but I laugh on them because They all are Same. This is my attitude. So "Think Different, Do Different and Be Different"!
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Hi

Refer to my earlier part of the thread regarding interpretation of Yogas which make reference to the Lord of Navamsa and then go on to make some addtional configuration requirements (the second leg definition of the yoga).

After giving some thought, I think the second leg of such Yoga the configuration should refer to the Navamsa chart and not the Rasi chart. The classic, as you recall, did not indicate clearly which chart to use for the second leg of the definition of the Yoga.

Also if you remember, these Yogas began with the definition of the Rasi chart in the first leg of their defintion. There should be no ambiguity for that. Also no change for the fact that if the Yogas did not talk about the lord of the Navamsa, then the configuration must be fully looked at from the Rasi chart point of view.

Thanks.

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Khoo Hock Leong wrote:Hi

Next principle ....

Moon with saturn angular makes the person dull-witted.

Cannot resist to put in the above principle as well. So you can seee Moon with Saturn in Kendra comes with a lot meaning - good luck, dull witted, bad for relatinships (for certain Saturn angular positions) and for certain Moon signs like Capricorn and aspected by Saturn can lead to wealth.

On top of that Shrinkanth has mentioned that Moon with Saturn, makes the person tired easily where the mind is concerned. His mind needs periodic rest. If the pair of planets are angular, all the more so.

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Wow...That makes me a Dim-Wit :( ..I have Moon and & Saturn in kendras to each other (in opposition 7/7 in fact) and aspect each other
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Dull-witted persons are easier to get on with. They do not scheme so much!
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Okay, I am wrong. All configuration patterns should refer to the rasi chart for Jataka Tatva and not the Navamsa chart even if the Lord of Navamsa is made referenced of.

I came across a new verse where the second leg defintion of the Yoga talk about the Lord of the Navamsa occupied by the Lagna Lord being placed in a malefic Shashtiamsa. One can only know about the Non-Planetary Lord division from the Rasi chart and not from the Navamsa.

Thus the intention of the author is always to refer to the Rasi chart for delineation.
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Hi

Next principle .......

Another Yoga from Jataka Tatva. Notice that for this Yoga, the overall context indicated by the writing shows that the author has intention of looking at Yoga planetary pattern from the Navamsa chart point of view. So there are some exceptions to the dictum of always looking at the Rasi chart for configuration patterns for Yogas listed in Jataka Tatva.

If the 9th House reckoned from Navamsa occupied by the Atmakaraka be occupied or aspected by a benefic, the person concerned will be intent in doing virtuous actions, will be always speaking truth, and be devoted to elders. It will be otherwise if a malefic occupied or aspect the 9th house.

In my Navamsa, Ketu is in 9th from Atmakaraka. Although ketu is a natural malefic, but it is a first class functional benefic for a Leo Navamsa Lagna.

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Hi

Next principle ...

This Yoga involves Mercury+Saturn+Moon. If they conjunct in a Kendra, 9th Bhava and 12th Bhava, the person will be devoid of wisdom and wealth.

The Yoga above is also from Jataka Tatva.

I partially satisfy this Yoga in the sense my Moon also disposits Mercury by Nakshatra while sitting with Saturn. However, thank goodness my Moon+Saturn is in Capricorn which denotes wealth according to Philadeepkika. Another mitigating factor is that my Moon+Saturn is in ANGLES which bring good luck.

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