Spirituality, Astrology, Destiny, B. Geeta, Celibacy

[sita]

Congrats Aseem!

[Dev]

Yes Talib, Basab is a hypocrite. He just can hurt anyone and everyone. See how much he hurt Astroboy who is already wedded to astrology and noone can separate him from astrology. People could be jealous of him but they would be the one to fall. He respects his Guru very much and has his backing.
Same with many others like Milred who were all his well wishers.
Anyway, it is a lesson that we need to learn, to not to respond to such people who are there trying to destroy the forum itself. Some chat among themselves for long writing one liners and think others are fools who would read all the nonsense written by them. This happens in several threads, especially this. Thier intellect is so low and cannot contribute more than a nonsensic one liner.
Silent spectators are better than people who try to destroy the forum.
See so many intellects are contributing towards astrology, spirituality and even other fields.
Let us all ignore them.
Dev

[Dev]

Dev - it is Sridevi Bhoodevi sametha Sri Vaikundanathar temple - it is very near to the VGN Minerva project you visited. the location is called Nolambur

Sudarshan:

That is interesting. There is Vaikuntanathar temple at Delhi too which is so nice. I have been there several times.

Dev

[shinu.mehrotra]

Yeah aseem you are right. I just cannot imagine how some members uselessly attacked him. I also think there is some motive. One funny guy is watching us secretly but they don't know this will lead to more problems here. These people just acted like the 100 guys used a girl from Kerala.

@basab,

Please ignore them and hope we continue to read your posts. We really like them.

[sita]

Yeah aseem you are right. I just cannot imagine how some members uselessly attacked him. I also think there is some motive. One funny guy is watching us secretly but they don't know this will lead to more problems here. These people just acted like the 100 guys used a girl from Kerala.

@basab,

Please ignore them and hope we continue to read your posts. We really like them.

....and who is that funny guy?

[shinu.mehrotra]

this guy is our most respected chicken pox guy to whom basabji address him as the most Sarcastic Guy!!!

hahahaha Beware he may be back to spying and creating fake ids to even harass his own friends

[sita]

tell me...who is he?...really dont have any idea?

[sita]

ok...ignore him....gud nt

[Talib]

Yes Dev,

We must ignore these bunch of HYPOCRITES idiots who love talking to themselves. you know wt the funny part is, one MR HYSTERICAL who is the king of these idiots and some times plays the role of his "praja" just to praise himself. i feel pity on these "self obsessed" who instead of feeling shame target senior member's and obstruct flow of their knowledge.

[dreamsunlimited]

Some ppl have just entered the thread to attack Basab... they have not shared any constructive post in it.. but to vent out their frustration they are just in.

Keep up the good work Basab, Aseem, Dev and Sudarshang.

[Dev]

Yes, Talib. One who praises himself all the time is only suffering from inferiority complex. His consience knows he is fit for nothing and reminds him all the time. To get out of that feeling, he tries to convince his conscience by praising himself and saying he knows everything. He knows he is not worthy of any praise and noone would praise him, so he ends up praising himself. Ravana, a great scholar, who was a devoted Shiva bhakta and was well versed in vedas and shastras himself had to succumb to heavy defeat due to his ego and arrogance. I am only imagining what would be the fate of people here who do not have any qualification even to have that ego and arrogance, what fate would theirs be? I only have to sympathise with them in advance.

Dev

[dreamsunlimited]

Dev ji

My humble request: Please write something to enlighten all of the readers on this forum who log in with expectation to read some healthy stuff.

We look forward to read some nice experience of yours.

Aseem ji

Yes... I daydream a lot... one of the daydreams is reading PEACE in this forum. Hope this daydream come true as I believe in dreams.

[Dev]

Hi Dream:

I know only a bit about astrology and spirituality. So I am not the right person. I do not have experience to share.
You would be better of asking Raoji, Ramanan, Astroboy, Sonu, Khoo. Anuradha, Alien, Shilpa, Swamycool, Srivastva etc about astrology and Sudarshan, Rao, Astrosonu, Suniti etc about spirituality. My confident fields are chemistry and music and not these though I can answer to some questions posed by individuals.

Dev

[Basab]

Remember, your favorite actress may also die one day. In that case, you dont die for her, dont sacrifice your life for her since u may make your parents unhappy. Face death boldly. You will die one day and your fav actress too but noone knows when.

These lines were not there when the post was written but was added later on while I was reading the posts of the last few pages and trying to understand my mistakes. I would like to answer it. I hope the person who it is addressed to will not make an issue out of it.

Yes, my favourite actress will die someday for sure, and no, I will not die for her, be rest assured about that. Yes, I will die one day and so will my favourite actress because a person who is born in this world has to die someday. That is inevitable. But then, this thought always gives me comfort that I will be born again and so will my favourite actress and so will all the people I love and am attached to, and we will meet again and will interact again in the next lives because that is what the books on rebirth says: that you always end up meeting those people you have known in your previous lives, in the present life and in the future lives also because of the karmic attachment to each other, which is called rinanubandhana. We come to this world to learn from each other. Always remember this that each and every person you are interacting with has a lesson to teach you or has a lesson to learn from you. In this world, no one is inferior, and no one is superior. Everyone is equal in the eyes of God.

Now, the greatest lesson that spirituality teaches us is we are not mortal but immortal. We will never die; we can never die because we are not the body but the spirit. The body dies, the soul doesn’t.

One more thing I would like to say from the ‘Mahabharata’ where when Yudhisthira is asked that what amazes him in this world the most, he says, death is inevitable in this world, but even then, everyone who lives, as long as he lives, never thinks of death. They forgets that they will die one day. That amazes him the most. His answer was much appreciated. I remember reading in the book ‘Life Beyond Death’ by Swami Abhedananda the saint saying that when someone close to us dies, we will feel terrible sadness, we start thinking what is the meaning of life, but sometime after that we forget about death and move ahead in life.

If we keep thinking that we will die one day, everything will seem meaningless to us. We will think what's the purpose of learning, what's the purpose of working, what's the purpose of getting married, when one day we will all die and leave everything behind us. So that this world doesn't stop, we have been shrouded by maya, which makes us forget death even though it is an inevitable occurence in everyone's life. When someone close to us dies, we feel a deep grief, but then, slowly we move on with life, forgetting that the same fate is destined for us, too.

[Basab]

Thank you, Shinu for your support. As the saying goes, "a friend in need is a friend indeed", you have proved yourself a true friend. And thanks also for the kind words for my posts. I am glad to know that you liked them.

@basab,

Please ignore them and hope we continue to read your posts. We really like them.

[Basab]

Thank you, Dream. Appreciate your support very much.

Some ppl have just entered the thread to attack Basab... they have not shared any constructive post in it.. but to vent out their frustration they are just in.

Keep up the good work Basab, Aseem, Dev and Sudarshang.

[astroboy]

by aseem82 » Wed Jun 22, 2011 7:17 pm
Anyway, I will stick By basabji...I understand his life and if he is living at home happily, then it is his past karmas!!!...His forefathers have done a lot of charities in their lifetimes and some streets are even named after them in Kolkatta!!!...He is enjoying due to the good deeds of his forefathers!!!No need to be jealous of him!!!..You guys really need to take care of your ego!!!...Some may be highly reputed but they are nothing in the eyes of God!!!

Good day Basab Ji,

I wanted to send you a Pm , But I thought i will write her because of one important reason . I wanted every one to read it and correct me if I a wrong .

I am saying this to you as a brother . Please take it in the right spirit. My own friends laugh at me and tell me to just ignore you . But for some unknown reason I actually care for you . I dont know why .

Read Aseems post . This is exactly the kind of advice that has kept you where you are today . My father built a business from scratch . Do I sit at home and reap te benefits of his labour ? What is my contribution to my family and society ? I was talking to Milred Yesterday and I told her, I really dont need the trouble of taking a loan exposing my self to debt and then going through the trouble of repaying that loan. But by doing that, I provide work for more than 12 people . That is called enpowerment and development . That is what this society is all about. Milred was telling me, " My aim is to create wealth so that I can contribute to society" I want to create wealth so that I can donate my money to a charitable cause.That way my life is meaningful and complete".

Aseem hails from a good family and a rich one at that . He has many connections with top officers of the government and with the police. He could have also sat at home and encashed on his families wealth and connections. Instead he is out of his Home town, in Delhi working to enpower himself . Why does he not take his own logic and use it on himself ?

My father has a very good statement, he says " you can talk about God and spirituality when your belly is full, you have a roof over your head and you are seated on your rose with nothing to do in life" As a man who works from 8 - 7 as a coolie if he cares for spirituality, you will have your answer . All we do when we discuss spirituality is indulge in "dinner table talk".

Aseem talks about enjoying the good deeds of your fore fathers . Remember you are eroding the credit balance of your good punya. One day that surplus balance will come to a end. That is the day you will realise my words . Its not too late . Listen to the right advice and act upon it . Your so called friends........ every body is doing well in their life . Some say there are government officers , so are working in top companies . When you land in trouble, there will be nobody for you . Remember that . Its easy to give you suggestions and advice which will make you feel happy and content .That is what every one of your so called friends are doing . Off course, they have nothing to lose . At the end, Its all your loss .

Treat this as my brotherly advice . I am neither jealous of you nor am i saying anything with ego as Aseem would think. No body on this forum is dependent on you for food and clothing . Every person on this forum is either working in top Companies, or they are engineers and MBA's .Most of them are living a exalted life abroad. They or I for that matter, gain nothing by being jealous of you or envious of you . Each one on this forum have excellent standing in society . I am giving you this advice out of my experience and good will for you. Take it or leave it . Its up to you .


Best regard's
deepak

[Basab]

Sudarshang,

I am neither walking the path of Bhakti, nor the path of Jnana. Spirituality is a subject of interest to me. I read books on it, but that's where it ends. When it comes to the spirituality I follow in life, I don't know in which category it falls or whether it can be called spirituality at all. I believe in formless God, but I talk to Him, sometimes, as in, sharing my problems with him, when I am in a very senti mood. So it is a mix of Bhakti and Jnana as you can see. I don't believe in praying to God for something because I know if and when He thinks necessary, He will provide help, in which He never fails. I also believe that destiny is predestined, that is, whatever is destined, will happen, and no one can stop that. This strong belief about destiny is the mantra of my life. This is what my life revolves around. Some may say that excess belief in destiny may make a person a fatalist. I don't believe in that, one bit. Lord Kirshna says to Arjuna that believe this that you make your destiny, but know this to be the truth that everything is predestined. I feel that even the person who believes in destiny can't surrender himself to it, completely. It is not possible. I have seen that in my own life, time and again. There have come situations in my life when my mom has told me to try to accept my fate, but I have said, I can't sit back and suffer as it was too much to bear and I tried my best to get out of the difficulty. I will just give a small incident from my life, which shows why we can't surrender ourselves to destiny, even if we believe that everything is predestined:

One day when I went to bed at night, I felt a terrible pain in my stomach, and it kept going on non-stop, making me miserable. My mind in a sarcastic mood told me "Don't you believe in surrendering to destiny?" I thought, that if I was to follow what I believe in, I should not think of taking any medicine but quietly suffer my destiny. I tried that for a few more seconds and then I thought to myself, what a fool I am, I am foolishly suffering when there is a medicine for that and I just have to get out of the bed and have it. I got out of bed and had a couple of antacid pills, got relief in a few minutes, and thought to myself, I don't follow what I believe in, fully because when the suffering became too much for me to bear, I took the route of free will.

Now, belief in destiny helps in many ways. It helps you accept all your miseries, which you would not be able to accept if you think of that from a logical perspective. Sometimes we wonder why we suffer, why we have to face humiliation, when we have not done anything wrong, when we have been a good person all through, and then, just the one magic word, 'destiny' makes us accept it, wonderfully, that which we can't accept, otherwise. I have seen people around me, who doesn't stop crying over something lost or doesn't stop brooding over some failure in life because they want the answer to the big question: why did it happen to them? They will cry and cry and cry over it, but they will find it difficult to accept it because they don't believe in destiny. If you believe in destiny, you will not ask why because you have the answer to that why: it is destiny. So belief in everything to be predestined is the best course, I believe.

Now you are talking the langauge of Bhakti Yoga.

[Nitin21]

My father built a business from scratch . Do I sit at home and reap te benefits of his labour ? What is my contribution to my family and society ? I was talking to Milred Yesterday and I told her, I really dont need the trouble of taking a loan exposing my self to debt and then going through the trouble of repaying that loan. But by doing that, I provide work for more than 12 people . That is called enpowerment and development . That is what this society is all about. Milred was telling me, " My aim is to create wealth so that I can contribute to society" I want to create wealth so that I can donate my money to a charitable cause.That way my life is meaningful and complete".

I wish there was a bow Icon. This is the single most spiritual act walking the talk, in adherence with Shastras that I have seen on this 100 page thread. This is Dharma and Karma both. Keep it up bhai.

Best Regards
Sonu

[Basab]

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[astroboy]

Basab Ji , Good to know that Aseem also thinks on my lines, though that was not the impression I got when I read his posts on the forum . Any way, I wish you the very best in life .

Best regards,

[Basab]

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[astroboy]

Good day Sonu Bhai,

Thank you for those kind words . Well It is money which runs the world . That same money can corrupt a person and at the same time it can be used to help people lead a better life . Not all people who seem materialistic are greedy . For all you know, they might be trying to create wealth so that they can share it with the world . Some people have fantastci Raja Yogas which can help them earn money . He can us this God given gift to earn wealth and then share it with the world . Is that not being Spiritual ? God would be pleased with this gesture . I said this before , If you sat in front of god praying, while a man stood hungy and dying at the door .... what would God expect you to do ? Pray , or get up and feed the man and save him from dying . I think God would be more happy If he saw you helping another one of his creatures . That is my policy .

Best regard's

[Basab]

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