"imprisonment " is a state of mind. What is imprisonment for you might not be imprisionment for me . 12th lord being exalted in the 4th might mean that this person might feel imprisoned in his own house . But being exalted, he simultaneously finds peace and happiness in it. For this you have to understand the mind. Let me give you a example, I am reminded of a song by Micheal Jackson, titled " Stranger in Moscow"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEEMi2j6lYE ( its high resolution , let it stream for a minute or two )
The crux is here when he says,
How does it feel (How does it feel)
How does it feel
How does it feel
When you're alone
And you're cold inside
Hope this help's
regard's
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Through hard work and spiritual practices, a person gets honor and dignity. The lazy one who puts in no efforts is like a fool who allows salt to be spilled on the wounds of his misfortunes. The idler depending only on fate, achieves nothing. - K.N.Rao ji
Thanks astroboy,
The guy I was talking about does not feel comfortable at home. He is very restless and likes being involved with many women at a time. Also, he has very bad relations with his mother. He is also addicted to cheating people. Its a case study in itself
The guy I was talking about does not feel comfortable at home. He is very restless and likes being involved with many women at a time. Also, he has very bad relations with his mother. He is also addicted to cheating people. Its a case study in itself
Did I say that there is nothing good about Vishakha Champeya ji ? This thread is all about the negative sides of a Nakshatra . Nothing else. Just because I write about the negatives, does not mean there are no positives. read my opening post on the Nakshatra Thread.best regards,
Through hard work and spiritual practices, a person gets honor and dignity. The lazy one who puts in no efforts is like a fool who allows salt to be spilled on the wounds of his misfortunes. The idler depending only on fate, achieves nothing. - K.N.Rao ji
Deepak ji I was just kidding no offense indicatedastroboy wrote:
best regards,
by Shashi » Mon Jun 13, 2011 4:20 pm
Thanks astroboy,
The guy I was talking about does not feel comfortable at home. He is very restless and likes being involved with many women at a time. Also, he has very bad relations with his mother. He is also addicted to cheating people. Its a case study in itself
He does not feel comfortable at home, Yet he goes back to the same place at the end of the day . Must be comfortable at the end of the Day . Interesting . Can you post his details . Lets have a look . best regard's
Through hard work and spiritual practices, a person gets honor and dignity. The lazy one who puts in no efforts is like a fool who allows salt to be spilled on the wounds of his misfortunes. The idler depending only on fate, achieves nothing. - K.N.Rao ji
Non Taken Champeya ji . I am sick and tired of telling people that this is all about the negatives . Positives are in the "Play the Nakshatra Game thread" .Through hard work and spiritual practices, a person gets honor and dignity. The lazy one who puts in no efforts is like a fool who allows salt to be spilled on the wounds of his misfortunes. The idler depending only on fate, achieves nothing. - K.N.Rao ji
All other factors being equal - Danishtha
Danishtha natives have an innate capacity to control or command others. This is a good trait as long as the persons Dharma is in the right place. But in the case of Charlene Adel, she induced her husband to kidnap rape and kill people.
One peculiarity which is consistently ascribed to this Nakshatra is Marital Discord. When Shani occupies this Nakshatra, it tends to aggravate this tendency, particularly when it is the lord of the 7th house of a horoscope. Marriage sometimes is simply delayed, but at other times, it is totally denied. Men who are strongly under the Nakshatras influence often tend towards Misogyny (the hatred or dislike of women ).
Danishtha people are known to wait years and years to extract their revenge. When they do so they do it with brutal force. (Shani loves to wait and settle scores. Kuja loves to fight) they are like elephants when it comes to extracting revenge. They can wait and wait for years to strike.
It has been noticed that If Ravi and Budha are placed together in a Horoscope of Danishtha born people they remain unmarried. If Kuja and Shukra are placed in an Inimical Nakshatra then the death of the spouse is also noticed.
Danishtha Nakshatra people can become overly ambitious, greedy, stingy or covetous of others property. A tendency towards self absorption and Narcissism may result. Due to the Kuja ruler ship the Danishtha person may become ruthless, inconsiderate, heartless and revengeful. This Nakshatra is Rakshasa or demon like in nature. Troubles or delays in marriage are often seen with women with their natal Lagna / Moon placed here.
People born under this Nakshatra often go for partners who are very different in personality and outlook to them. This leads to a lot of conflicts. This is more true for people whose Lagna or moon occupies the Capricorn part of the Nakshatra.
Kuja is regarded as the most unfavorable planet for marital harmony. A lot of scholars are unanimous regarding the peculiar property of this asterism in promoting marital discord. These marital difficulties are usually enhanced when Kuja, Shani, Rahu, or Ketu are placed in this Nakshatra, and have a connection to the 7th or 8th house in a Horoscope. This is true especially with the Capricorn part of the Nakshatra.
The 4th pada has excessive Martian energy. This pada is known for its aggressiveness. We must remember that it is a demonic Nakshatra and has both the aggressiveness of Kuja and the cunning of Shani. Danishtha is the Pinnacle of Martian energy. Danishtha Nakshatra is actually not very enthusiastic about sexual activity; though it likes to indulge in playful sex acts, filled with aggression. As we know, the Yoni is that of a Lion. A lion has multiple partners and is aggressive with its play.
Danishtha natives are self seeking, aggressive, capable of harming or damaging others, not truthful, fabricate stories, deceptive, withholds information, say what is not the truth or what is incorrect, don't like to be told what to do, indulge in argumentative talks, too talkative, do not think things through, poor at defending themselves when cornered , and pick up partners who are unsuitable for them.
Danishtha natives have an innate capacity to control or command others. This is a good trait as long as the persons Dharma is in the right place. But in the case of Charlene Adel, she induced her husband to kidnap rape and kill people.
One peculiarity which is consistently ascribed to this Nakshatra is Marital Discord. When Shani occupies this Nakshatra, it tends to aggravate this tendency, particularly when it is the lord of the 7th house of a horoscope. Marriage sometimes is simply delayed, but at other times, it is totally denied. Men who are strongly under the Nakshatras influence often tend towards Misogyny (the hatred or dislike of women ).
Danishtha people are known to wait years and years to extract their revenge. When they do so they do it with brutal force. (Shani loves to wait and settle scores. Kuja loves to fight) they are like elephants when it comes to extracting revenge. They can wait and wait for years to strike.
It has been noticed that If Ravi and Budha are placed together in a Horoscope of Danishtha born people they remain unmarried. If Kuja and Shukra are placed in an Inimical Nakshatra then the death of the spouse is also noticed.
Danishtha Nakshatra people can become overly ambitious, greedy, stingy or covetous of others property. A tendency towards self absorption and Narcissism may result. Due to the Kuja ruler ship the Danishtha person may become ruthless, inconsiderate, heartless and revengeful. This Nakshatra is Rakshasa or demon like in nature. Troubles or delays in marriage are often seen with women with their natal Lagna / Moon placed here.
People born under this Nakshatra often go for partners who are very different in personality and outlook to them. This leads to a lot of conflicts. This is more true for people whose Lagna or moon occupies the Capricorn part of the Nakshatra.
Kuja is regarded as the most unfavorable planet for marital harmony. A lot of scholars are unanimous regarding the peculiar property of this asterism in promoting marital discord. These marital difficulties are usually enhanced when Kuja, Shani, Rahu, or Ketu are placed in this Nakshatra, and have a connection to the 7th or 8th house in a Horoscope. This is true especially with the Capricorn part of the Nakshatra.
The 4th pada has excessive Martian energy. This pada is known for its aggressiveness. We must remember that it is a demonic Nakshatra and has both the aggressiveness of Kuja and the cunning of Shani. Danishtha is the Pinnacle of Martian energy. Danishtha Nakshatra is actually not very enthusiastic about sexual activity; though it likes to indulge in playful sex acts, filled with aggression. As we know, the Yoni is that of a Lion. A lion has multiple partners and is aggressive with its play.
Danishtha natives are self seeking, aggressive, capable of harming or damaging others, not truthful, fabricate stories, deceptive, withholds information, say what is not the truth or what is incorrect, don't like to be told what to do, indulge in argumentative talks, too talkative, do not think things through, poor at defending themselves when cornered , and pick up partners who are unsuitable for them.
Through hard work and spiritual practices, a person gets honor and dignity. The lazy one who puts in no efforts is like a fool who allows salt to be spilled on the wounds of his misfortunes. The idler depending only on fate, achieves nothing. - K.N.Rao ji
Some malefic yogas in Charlene's chart
Bandhana Yoga
Malefics are placed in Gemini Lagna, Libra Lagna or Aquarius Lagna (Sambu Hora Prakasha 14/57).
This configuration makes the person vulnerable to confinement or imprisonment in a jail.
Pamara Yoga
The lord of the 5th house is in the 6th, 8th or 12th house (Phala Deepika 6/62).
The person will be indiscriminate and have a miserable life, a liar, a cheat, childless or suffering from the loss of children, associating with mean and wicked people, lacking the faith in God.
Jupiter, Lord of 2 in 7
If the 2nd lord is in the 7th the native will be addicted to others' wives . If a malefic is related to the said placement by conjunction or by aspect, the native's wife / Husband will (also) be of questionable character.
Through hard work and spiritual practices, a person gets honor and dignity. The lazy one who puts in no efforts is like a fool who allows salt to be spilled on the wounds of his misfortunes. The idler depending only on fate, achieves nothing. - K.N.Rao ji
Appart from blaming Danishtha there are other factors to blame . Like I have said before, Astrology is all about the cumulative effects of the 9 planets and the 27 Nakshatras . All I am doing here is splicing and dicing these effects up .
Where did the problem first start ?
She was addicted to drugs, she also drank heavily . See the significator of the Mind. Chandra is in Ashwini Nakshatra ruled By Ketu . Ketu is debilitated in the D1, In Ravi's Nakshatra . Ravi is again debilitated .
Then she got married. All her marriages were failures . she was married thrice , appart form having many lovers . she was a sexual deviant to the core . 7th lord is debilitated. She has a extremely strong Kuja Shukra Yoga in the 1/7 axis . Lagna lord is screwed by being involved with Rahu who is debilitated in the Lagna lord's Nakshatra . The lagna itself is damaged . Guru's aspect is only for decoration . Guru is at 28 Deg while Lagna is at 4 . I have said time and again, Guru cannot control Kuja until its too late . Though Kuja is withing Guru's aspect range , Its of no use because Shukra is also aspecting Kuja . Guru is in Ravi's Nakshatra and Ravi is in debilitation . What Can poor Guru do ? the 7th lord is neecha in Vargothama . Baat Kalas .
She was gifted and talented, with a 160 IQ and a prodigious talent for the violin. Budha is exalted in Chandra's Nakshatra . But what was the use of all that talent . It all went to waste .
More later .
Where did the problem first start ?
She was addicted to drugs, she also drank heavily . See the significator of the Mind. Chandra is in Ashwini Nakshatra ruled By Ketu . Ketu is debilitated in the D1, In Ravi's Nakshatra . Ravi is again debilitated .
Then she got married. All her marriages were failures . she was married thrice , appart form having many lovers . she was a sexual deviant to the core . 7th lord is debilitated. She has a extremely strong Kuja Shukra Yoga in the 1/7 axis . Lagna lord is screwed by being involved with Rahu who is debilitated in the Lagna lord's Nakshatra . The lagna itself is damaged . Guru's aspect is only for decoration . Guru is at 28 Deg while Lagna is at 4 . I have said time and again, Guru cannot control Kuja until its too late . Though Kuja is withing Guru's aspect range , Its of no use because Shukra is also aspecting Kuja . Guru is in Ravi's Nakshatra and Ravi is in debilitation . What Can poor Guru do ? the 7th lord is neecha in Vargothama . Baat Kalas .
She was gifted and talented, with a 160 IQ and a prodigious talent for the violin. Budha is exalted in Chandra's Nakshatra . But what was the use of all that talent . It all went to waste .
More later .
Through hard work and spiritual practices, a person gets honor and dignity. The lazy one who puts in no efforts is like a fool who allows salt to be spilled on the wounds of his misfortunes. The idler depending only on fate, achieves nothing. - K.N.Rao ji
Deepakji, After so much of negative, please see the positive.http://www.pravasitoday.com/at-100-mara ... -biography
Good day Anu ji,
That was a good read . Thank you . It also inspires me to run more . . Become lazy nowadays . 
That was a good read . Thank you . It also inspires me to run more .
. Become lazy nowadays . Through hard work and spiritual practices, a person gets honor and dignity. The lazy one who puts in no efforts is like a fool who allows salt to be spilled on the wounds of his misfortunes. The idler depending only on fate, achieves nothing. - K.N.Rao ji
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Nitin21
Shashiji - Exalted Sun in 12th means a soul which is higher in taratamya. He is not the normal one amongst us. Can you kindly share the details if possible ?Shashi wrote:Dear Astroboy,
As you have mentioned the "imprisonment " effects of 12th house. In continuation of the same, I am reminded of a chart where the guy has an exchange of 4th and 12th lords. His lagna is Vrishabh and 4th lord Sun is exalted in 12th house while 12th lord Mars is in 4th house with Saturn, Moon, Jupiter and Rahu. So, in all, Saturn, Rahu, Moon, Jupiter, Mars in 4th house and 4th lord in 12th in exaltation. Would this be a case of imprisonment ?
Regards
Sonu
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Nitin21
Definite higher soul. You will be able to make it out by way the spirituality is approached by this person. Tell me about the dreams the person sees and about the AWESOME intuitive sense he has..Abhisheik wrote:Sonu Bhai, One of my kid cousin has exalted sun in 12th house.
Her birth details are
06 May 1998
07:25 A.M
Delhi
Please share some attributes. He is also running Sun vimshottari.Regards
Sonu
Bhai, I have no idea About the her dreams . Intuitive yes. She can scan you, wont say a thing, but you can't fool her. As far as Spirituality is concerned she prays regularly (Hanuman Chalisa) but nothing else. Very very fond and protective towards my aunt(her mother) so I would believe that she is spiritual in that sense. Personality wise she is Imperious and very stubborn. Sharp in academics so far.
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Nitin21
Kalachakra dasha of aries starts 2012 mid later. There will be a sudden turnaround in personality. Ask her to stop chalisa and start hanuman ashtak or hanumat dwadasha naam from ananda ramayana.Abhisheik wrote:Bhai, I have no idea About the her dreams . Intuitive yes. She can scan you, wont say a thing, but you can't fool her. As far as Spirituality is concerned she prays regularly (Hanuman Chalisa) but nothing else. Very very fond and protective towards my aunt(her mother) so I would believe that she is spiritual in that sense. Personality wise she is Imperious and very stubborn. Sharp in academics so far.
Watch her closely i would say. Expect grace from her which is not normal to us. Initiate her into suryadwadasha naam.
Regards
Sonu
Few dumb Questions.astrosonu wrote:Kalachakra dasha of aries starts 2012 mid later. There will be a sudden turnaround in personality. Ask her to stop chalisa and start hanuman ashtak or hanumat dwadasha naam from ananda ramayana.Abhisheik wrote:Bhai, I have no idea About the her dreams . Intuitive yes. She can scan you, wont say a thing, but you can't fool her. As far as Spirituality is concerned she prays regularly (Hanuman Chalisa) but nothing else. Very very fond and protective towards my aunt(her mother) so I would believe that she is spiritual in that sense. Personality wise she is Imperious and very stubborn. Sharp in academics so far.
Watch her closely i would say. Expect grace from her which is not normal to us. Initiate her into suryadwadasha naam.
Regards
Sonu
What exactly is meant by taratamya?
Is it judged by only by presence exalted sun in 12th house or any other planet exalted in 12th will do.
Also is exaltation the only criteria or swagrahi placements would do?
What about exalted sun's aspect on 12th house?
what about 12th lord itself?
Does it's placement in its exaltation or swagrahi sign matter in determination of taratamya?
What about placement of debilitated planets in 12th / debilitation of 12th lord?
Thanks
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Nitin21
taratamya is heirarchy of souls.
Only exalted sun in 12th qualifies for higher soul for your questions.
Regards
Sonu
Only exalted sun in 12th qualifies for higher soul for your questions.
Regards
Sonu
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My cousin has also an exalted Sun in 12th conjoined with Moon and retro Mercury.
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Her Mars conjoins Venus in 10th - Kumbh
