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Some information of Retrograde planets as per Nadi principles :

As per Nadi jyotishya ,

1.If the planet is a Adipathya ( Functional ) papa Graha and is Vakri , it provides papa phala
2 . If the Adipathya shubha graha is Retrograde it will always provide shubha phala
3.If the graha is Vakri in neecha stana irrespective of adipathya it provides shubha phala
4. If a shubha Adipathya graha is Vakri and is in 1/4/7/10/5/9/11 then it becomes a Raja Yoga
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3.If the graha is Vakri in neecha stana irrespective of adipathya it provides shubha phala
Deepak, So Saturn Debilitated and retrograde provides shubha phala? And Mars mooltrikon and retrograde provides papa phala?
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Mili , as per Nadi, Saturn Debilitated and retrograde provides shubha phala . As far as Kuja Goes , it depends on his Adipathya .
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Thanks....I said Mars mooltrikon.....
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Good day Anu Ji ,

can you please do me a favour and post the names of all the trees associated with the 27 Nakshatras , if you dont mind. I will put it on the Nakshatra thread . It is very important to know the trees associated with the Nakshatras . Please try and get the english names if possible .

Many thanks in advance
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Thank you Anu ji . Very Nice of you . I sent you a PM . Please see . :)
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Charles Manson,
born on 12 November 1934 at 16:40 (= 4:40 PM )
Place Cincinnati OH, USA, 39n09, 84w27
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American 5' 2" inch ritual cult leader, a psychopath with a band of drug-numbed followers. Manson mesmerized his gang with liberal sex and drugs while living on a ranch in the desert of southern California. He was no stranger to penal institutions spending 19 of his first 32 years behind bars. In the late '60s, Manson lived in the Height-Ashbury district in San Francisco, California. He gathered adoring women around him by giving out LSD. Soon he was able to attract young men to his group by promising sex with his "young loves." Manson was befriended by celebrity children like Terry Melcher, Doris Day's son and rock singers like Dennis Wilson of the "Beach Boys." Unable to keep his friendships, Manson began to prophesy chaos to his followers. On 8/09/1969, he directed the ritual grisly killings in the Tate-La Bianca murders in Hollywood. The deaths frightened the Hollywood community and the perpetrators of the Manson massacres were tried in 1970-71.

Manson was the illegitimate son of a teen prostitute and an army colonel. Manson's mother was allegedly a heavy drinker. According to a family member, she once sold her son for a pitcher of beer to a childless waitress, from whom his uncle retrieved him some days later .He was raised by an aunt and uncle in Charleston, West Virginia. By the age of 11, he developed into a delinquent, shuffling from foster parent to foster parent. Manson spent his youth and adulthood in and out of prison. In 1967, while on parole he went to San Francisco to be a part of the hippie counter-culture in the Height-Ashbury district. After gathering his "family" together, they moved to Chatsworth, CA and enjoyed long group LSD sessions listening to the Beatles' "Helter Skelter" song on the White Album. Manson believed in a horrific black and white race war imminent and used interpretations from the book of Revelations to impress his followers. When the war did not occur, he sent his followers to Hollywood to "instill fear into the Establishment." On 8/09/1969, an 8 1/2 month pregnant actress, Sharon Tate was stabbed to death along with her house guests and their blood was smeared along the walls of the kitchen. A few days later, an older couple, the La Biancas, were tied up, carved and stabbed by forks and kitchen knives by Manson's followers. Susan Atkins, Patricia Krenwinkel, Leslie Van Houten and Charles Watson, along with Charles Manson, were arrested for the Tate-LaBianca murders. Vincent T. Bugliosi was the lead prosecutor in the Manson-gang trials. He would later write the best-selling book, "Helter Skelter" documenting the murders and the trials. Manson held sway in court while his followers tried to exonerate their leader whom they regarded as Jesus and the devil. In the nine months of the trials over 1970-'71, the juries found Manson and the three "Manson girls" guilty of first degree murder and conspiracy. He was convicted and given the death penalty in 1971. In 1972, the California Supreme Court invalidated the then existing capital punishment stature. Manson became a life-termer. In 1976, when found to be mentally deteriorating, he was transferred to Vacaville. Since 1978, he has been continually refused parole by the California parole board.

On 8/25/1984, he was burned over 13% of body when a Hare Krishna fanatic inmate threw paint thinner and a match at him.

The caged Manson's behavior is vicious and demented; inexplicably, every year he receives letters and gifts from young people, Satanists, neo-Nazis and skinheads who view him as their role model, hoping for one day when he will be released.


For more : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Manson
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I sent you a PM
I have already read it. regards.
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Shravana is supposed to be one of the best out there . But as we can see, even the best can be tainted and can deliver bad results depending on the afflictions present . Take a look at the horoscope .

Chandra is in Shravana, But so is Rahu . Shani though a distance away still influences Chandra . Rahu is at 11 Deg 53 , while Chandra is at 11 Deg 02 . There is a Planetary war which Chandra has lost .That is the beginning of the end . To compond matters, Budha and Guru are in the nakshatra of Rahu . The 5th lord is debilitated . Rahu does not leave Chandra even in the Navamsha sealing his fate . Note Kuja's aspect on Chandra .
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Deepakji, I have taken a pledge today, that I will not post any photograph of any reference.I have deleted it. regards
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Good day Star Star,

The trouble with astrology is that there is no standardization of the Panchangas . People in different parts of India use different siddhantas to prepare the Panchangas. The trouble starts when the Planets are at the edge. Total confusion prevails.
I will list out the differences for you

As per drik Sidddhanta , using Geocentric setting you fall under Purva Ashadha Nakshatra ( Poorvadam ) @ 14 Deg 20 .

As per Topocentric setting using Drik Siddhanta, you fall under Purva Ashadha @ 14 Deg 16

As per Surya Siddhanta you fall under 13 Deg 35 of Poorva Ashadha Nakshatra ,

Since Drik siddhanta is the most widely used and accepted I suggest you stick to Poorva Ashadha .


As far as your grandfather's death is concerned, There is a dictum that In the 1st cycle of Sade Sati (Yelare Shani - 7.5 years of Saturn) The child looses his grand parents , in the 2nd cycle the lose their parents and in the third, they lose their own lives . This is a general dictum , But I have seen it come true in most cases . You were in the First cycle of 7.5 when your grandfather passed away . This is called as chata Bhanga . Chata means a umbrella . A umbrella protects the person from the harsh rays of the sun and the rain . Our grand parents and parents are our protectors, Just like a umbrella . Shani takes away that protection.

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Deepakji, Now happy. I have deleted all the photograph of references, I have posted till date. Regards
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:cry: Anu ji, You dont know how much I value your attachments . You know I cant read Hindi . I save them and ask Suchi ji to read them for me . She was not there this week end , so when you posted the link on the nakshatra thread I saved them without reading them .I was waiting for Shuchi ji to get back ( She is out of town ) so that I could get her to read and understand it . :( :cry:
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so when you posted the link on the nakshatra thread I saved them without reading them .I was waiting for Shuchi ji to get back ( She is out of town ) so that I could get her to read and understand it .
Deepakji, Please do not use any of my reference, posted as photographs. Regards
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:( Ok Anu ji
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Ok Anu ji
Thanks and regards.
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Here is a example of a woman who lived a life of crime She was a notorious serial Killer . she was born in Danishtha Nakshatra ( Lagna ) .

Gallego, Charlene

Birthname Williams, Charlene Adele
born on 19 October 1956 at 14:50 (= 2:50 PM )
Place Stockton CA, USA, 37n58, 121w17
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Charlene Gallego was born near Sacramento, California, in October 1956. Her father Charles was a respected entrepreneur who was the vice president of a supermarket chain. He and his wife Mercedes regularly travelled as part of their business life. Early school reports suggest Charlene was a quiet and shy child who had a good attendance. Charlene's mother Mercedes was involved in a car accident leaving her badly hurt causing her not to travel as often, therefore Charlene was caused to take over her mothers duties and would often travel with her father to meet his clients who would praise the intelligent and well-spoken child.

By high school Charlene had began experimenting with drugs, she also drank heavily and bragged about having a black lover. Young Charlene was very promiscuous but her parents were in denial.

Charlene married a wealthy man who was unfortunately a heroin addic who claimed Charlene was obsessed with lesbian sex and begged him to have a threesome with a prostitute. Using large amounts of cocaine she didn't care about her appearance and her first husband hated that Charlene's parents often intervened in their relationship. The first marriage failed, she married another man-a soldier- she described him as a "mommies boy" and grew bored of him causing them to quickly divorce.

Charlene had a brief affair with married man, when he ended the affair after she suggested they should have sex with wife, he left Charlene devastated and attempted suicide. It was not long after this when Charlene met Gerald

Gerald had a brutal background, he was beaten by his mother and her numerous amount of boyfriends. He was constantly left starving and desperate for love. His father was a convicted murderer who was executed for the murder of two policemen. Like Charlene he had failed as a lover and a husband, by the age of thirty-two he'd left numerous amounts of women. He had also a daughter whom he began abusing sexually. He soon met Charlene both were insanely in love with each other and both enjoyed rough sex, with Charlene being sexually submissive. Within a week of meeting they had moved in with each other and rented a house together. Soon after Charlene accepted he was only bothered with his own sexual satisfication. Gerald brought home a young sixteen year old dancer whom himself and Charlene had a threesome with, but the women were only allowed to touch him and not each other. The next day he returned home from work to find the women in bed having sex. Enraged he threw the young female dancer out of the window and beat Charlene, soon after he withheld sex from her for a month. It seems he no longer found her attractive as she was no longer sexually dependent on him.

To be continued
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Gerald sodomised his now fourteen year old daughter and her friend, it is unclear whether Charlene was in the same room or just in the apartment. With Gerald now unable to become sexually excited, one of the couple suggested kidnapping and abducting young women to become their sex slaves. Sources suggest that Charlene agreed as she saw the mans word as law, but it is more likely that she had strong lesbian desires to satisfy and the need to dominate

Scheffler and Vaught, aged 17 and 16 respectively, were shopping at Sacramento's Country Club Plaza on September 10, 1978. Charlene picked them up and put them in the back of the couple's van.

Gerald and Charlene both repeatedly raped and molested the two victims throughout the night in Baxter, California, with Charlene biting the breasts of one victim and Gerald the other (known as bite marks on victims breasts were different). The next day, the Gallegos drove to Sloughhouse, where Gerald got Rhonda and Kippi out of the van. He then made them walk out in the field to a ditch where he hit Kippi first with a tire iron then swung around and hit Rhonda. Finally, he shot each girl in the head with a 25-caliber pistol. As Gerald was walking back he saw one of the victims move (later revealed as Kippi Vaught) because the bullet had only grazed her skull. He returned and shot her three more times in the head, killing her. Charlene would later tell a cellmate how ecstatic she felt during this cruel kidnap-rape.

Judd (age 14) and Colley (age 13) were lured into the Gallegos' van at the Washoe County Fair in Nevada on June 24, 1979 on the promise of making some money delivering leaflets. Charlene drove the van northeast out of Reno on I-80. At the back of the van, Gerald repeatedly raped the two young girls while Charlene watched in the rearview mirror. Charlene then parked their van in a desolate area known as Humboldt Sink.

Gerald took a shovel from under the seat of their van and pulled Colley out of the vehicle, marching her toward a dry creek bed. He then stepped behind Colley and swung the shovel. Charlene would later recall the sound, describing it as "a loud splat like a flat rock hitting mud, and the girl sank to her knees and slowly toppled over on her face." Gerald then beat Judd to death and dug a deep hole, folding the naked bodies of the two girls into it and placing a rock over the grave. Their remains were not discovered until November 1999 by a tractor operator.
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In the early morning hours of November 2, 1980, Gerald saw a young couple, twenty-two-year-old Craig Miller, and his fiancée, twenty-one-year-old Mary Elizabeth Sowers, standing on the side of the street. In his most brazen attempt yet, Gerald got out of the car, walked right up to them, pulled out a .25 caliber Beretta, pointed it in the couples face, and ordered them into the car. Unfortunately for Gerald, friends of the young couple saw them get into the vehicle and wrote down the license plate number. After driving to a secluded area, Gerald commanded Craig out of the car, as the young man turned to walk towards the front of the vehicle, Gerald aimed his pistol and shot the boy at point-blank range in the back of the head while his fiancée looked on in horror. Gerald then fired two more shots into Craig’s head, as he lay lifeless on the ground. Gerald got back into the vehicle and ordered Charlene to drive to their apartment. Once back at the apartment, Gerald took his new sex slave into the bedroom and raped her for hours on end. After he was satisfied, he ordered Charlene to drive to a rural area. Once there, Gerald ordered Mary out of the car. He then shot her three times at point blank range.
Apprehended and convicted, they went to prison where Charlene gave birth to their baby on 7/17/81.

Relationship : Marriage 30 September 1978 (Gerald Gallego)
Relationship : Meet a significant person 10 September 1977 (Met Gerald Gallego)
Crime : Homicide Perpetration 12 September 1978 (First kidnap-sex-murder)
Crime : Homicide Perpetration 1 November 1980 (Last two kidnap-sex-murders)
Family : Change in family responsibilities 17 July 1981 (Baby born in prison and taken away

Span of Killings - September 11, 1978– November 2, 1980
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V Krishnan Nampoothry in his article " Planetary Influences and Criminal acts " states, and I quote,
" Every act, Good or Bad originates from the mind, which of course is a complex entity or phenomenon and which might be said to have it's seat in the brain and the Heart. It is very difficult to Judge hypocricy cruelty averice revengful nature, and a tendency to attack or kill through the horoscope alone. Onese social and cultural background also has a strong influence in shaping ones mind."


which brings me to my original dictum.

To whom you are born
Where you are born
When you are born
and How you look and are built physically

are the four corner stones on which the Horoscope is built on .


Nampoothiry Ji further lists out the several houses relevant in the context of criminal acts

01st house - Personality as a whole
02nd house - State of the Family. Family and ones cultural inheritance and the back ground in the early stages of his life.
03rd House - Courage, wicked thinking ( Durbuddhi ) and the lower mind
04th house - Emotions, intense feelings of the heart,
05th house - Concious mind and wisdom
06th house - Cruel deeds, enemity, Robbery, theft and the workings of the unconcious Mind
08th house - Notoriety and bad reputation and destruction
09th house - Higher mind and dhrama ( Rightious action
10th House - Reputation and action
12th house - Imprisonment and confinement, Sub conscious mind and secret activities
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Dear Astroboy,

As you have mentioned the "imprisonment " effects of 12th house. In continuation of the same, I am reminded of a chart where the guy has an exchange of 4th and 12th lords. His lagna is Vrishabh and 4th lord Sun is exalted in 12th house while 12th lord Mars is in 4th house with Saturn, Moon, Jupiter and Rahu. So, in all, Saturn, Rahu, Moon, Jupiter, Mars in 4th house and 4th lord in 12th in exaltation. Would this be a case of imprisonment ?
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