Dear Astrosonu,
It was Rahu in the tenth that caused temporary loss of job,and you may also take notice of this shadow planet which occupies the most important place of your horoscope.
Contradictory results of mars are due to Rahu in the tenth,though rahu pccupies an upachaya house.
Shadow planets act like catalysts,they put the gun on the shoulder of lord of rasi .
Rahu is natural karaka for astrology too.
Atmakaraka
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7th house is Dwara ( DOOR ) . we came to this world through the 7 House ( marriage /sex / Birth).
Also we leave this world through this 7 House . Because of this 7th house is poweful Maraka house ( death house ).
Kala Purusha 7 th house is Libra . Lord Venus . Main Karakattuwa is sex /enjoyment.
When Jupiter is in the 7 th house ... Jupiter begins to SUFFER. As Venus is Asura Guru . But Jupiter is Deva Guru.
Deva Guru Jupiter doesn't like to get the flavour of the Venusian house.
Some Scriptures say 7 th house Jupiter is good. But in practise it is not so.
Exalated Jupiter in the 7 house is bad , mostly very worse. I observed this exalated 7 H jupiter matters many years back.
Few years later I read in the Astrological magazine that 7 H exalated Jupiter is not good. Still I have that magazine.
So SEVENTH house is DOOR . opening and closing . ( blocking you and allowing you )
Now I give few hints ... try to think baseed on below pointers.
From Lagna the 7th house ...
From moon the 7th house ....
From Athma Karaka 7 th house.
Karakattuwa of the Lagna ...
Significations of the Moon .
Karakattuwa of the Athmakaraka planet.
Also you can look 7th house from the Arudha Lagnam.
Which are CLOSED Which are OPEN.
The Purpose ( significations ) of the 7 th house ( DOOR ) from Asc .. Moon ... AK... and AL.
Think and learn yourselves and write your findings .
siva sarasalai
Namaskar to all members.
7th house is Dwara ( DOOR ) . we came to this world through the 7 House ( marriage /sex / Birth).
Also we leave this world through this 7 House . Because of this 7th house is poweful Maraka house ( death house ).
Kala Purusha 7 th house is Libra . Lord Venus . Main Karakattuwa is sex /enjoyment.
When Jupiter is in the 7 th house ... Jupiter begins to SUFFER. As Venus is Asura Guru . But Jupiter is Deva Guru.
Deva Guru Jupiter doesn't like to get the flavour of the Venusian house.
Some Scriptures say 7 th house Jupiter is good. But in practise it is not so.
Exalated Jupiter in the 7 house is bad , mostly very worse. I observed this exalated 7 H jupiter matters many years back.
Few years later I read in the Astrological magazine that 7 H exalated Jupiter is not good. Still I have that magazine.
So SEVENTH house is DOOR . opening and closing . ( blocking you and allowing you )
Now I give few hints ... try to think baseed on below pointers.
From Lagna the 7th house ...
From moon the 7th house ....
From Athma Karaka 7 th house.
Karakattuwa of the Lagna ...
Significations of the Moon .
Karakattuwa of the Athmakaraka planet.
Also you can look 7th house from the Arudha Lagnam.
Which are CLOSED Which are OPEN.
The Purpose ( significations ) of the 7 th house ( DOOR ) from Asc .. Moon ... AK... and AL.
Think and learn yourselves and write your findings .
siva sarasalai
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Nitin21
Understood Sir. But as my Amatyakaraka too, is it supposed to behave differently. What i have noticed is that although I lose a job and have a gap. But whenever I have a new job, it is far better than the old one financially and profilewise. Is this because of the upachaya feature of Rahu OR Guru's aspect ? The reason I am confused is because Guru is Kopi in my horo but I have never been too short on money/job in my life. I always have all the comfort that is needed in finances and job both.
Regarding karaka for astrology, it is interesting because when I read through different literature, I find that in some or other way almost every planet is karaka for astrology. But, I am not able to grasp the context under which the authors have this opinion.
Regarding karaka for astrology, it is interesting because when I read through different literature, I find that in some or other way almost every planet is karaka for astrology. But, I am not able to grasp the context under which the authors have this opinion.
revribhav wrote:Dear Astrosonu,
It was Rahu in the tenth that caused temporary loss of job,and you may also take notice of this shadow planet which occupies the most important place of your horoscope.
Contradictory results of mars are due to Rahu in the tenth,though rahu pccupies an upachaya house.
Shadow planets act like catalysts,they put the gun on the shoulder of lord of rasi .
Rahu is natural karaka for astrology too.
A planet is basically like us,we have different duties to perform in life,similarly atmakaraka is not merely an AK,it has other duties too,like being a friend to some other planet,being influenced by aspect of a planet both with respect to the gochara as well as annual horoscope apart from natal chart.
We canot streatch too far a particular situation,Guru may be "Kopee" at the time of birth but at the same time it is in own house and it occupies a nakshatra satbhisha making you kind of a healer.
Astrology being a hidden or an occult subject ,shadow planets are karaka as they are supposed to bless a person with psychic powers .
You have increasingly better job because of exaltation of tenth lord but Rahu in tenth is supposed to give instability too.
We canot streatch too far a particular situation,Guru may be "Kopee" at the time of birth but at the same time it is in own house and it occupies a nakshatra satbhisha making you kind of a healer.
Astrology being a hidden or an occult subject ,shadow planets are karaka as they are supposed to bless a person with psychic powers .
You have increasingly better job because of exaltation of tenth lord but Rahu in tenth is supposed to give instability too.
I have a question here.
As Rahu is retrograde, we count its longitude reversely (from 30 degree counting downwards) while deciding if and what karaka it is (AK / AmK etc.).
Another planet, lets say Jupiter who is margi usually, turns retrograde and we draw the chart for that time.
Do we still count the longitude of Jupiter from 0 degrees or rather reversely ??
Regards,
Virendra
As Rahu is retrograde, we count its longitude reversely (from 30 degree counting downwards) while deciding if and what karaka it is (AK / AmK etc.).
Another planet, lets say Jupiter who is margi usually, turns retrograde and we draw the chart for that time.
Do we still count the longitude of Jupiter from 0 degrees or rather reversely ??
Regards,
Virendra
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Atmakaraka Worldly Desires Spiritual lesson
Sun success , fame, power, letting go of the ego, humility
Moon happiness, love, satisfaction understanding unhappiness,
Difference between true and false love
Mars passion, victory, adventure conceding defeat, patience,
Unrequited passions,
Mercury intellectual superiority crossing intellectual barriers,
Divine Communication learning to face the truth
Jupiter children, spirituality, tolerating other’s spirituality
wisdom Putting your children before you
For women- imperfect husbands
Venus sex, relationships, luxury accepting relationships the
Sensuality way they are, avoiding excessive behaviour,
controlling sensuality
Saturn Democracy, duty, facing the harsh truths, loneliness
Rahu Achievement, experience disappointments, fears, doubts
Sun success , fame, power, letting go of the ego, humility
Moon happiness, love, satisfaction understanding unhappiness,
Difference between true and false love
Mars passion, victory, adventure conceding defeat, patience,
Unrequited passions,
Mercury intellectual superiority crossing intellectual barriers,
Divine Communication learning to face the truth
Jupiter children, spirituality, tolerating other’s spirituality
wisdom Putting your children before you
For women- imperfect husbands
Venus sex, relationships, luxury accepting relationships the
Sensuality way they are, avoiding excessive behaviour,
controlling sensuality
Saturn Democracy, duty, facing the harsh truths, loneliness
Rahu Achievement, experience disappointments, fears, doubts
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To Rahu , Subract 30 degree - ( from Rahu's deg ) to see AK -
To other retro planets No subraction.
siva sarasalai
To Rahu , Subract 30 degree - ( from Rahu's deg ) to see AK -
To other retro planets No subraction.
siva sarasalai
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Namaskar Members ,
Few more pointers about Atma Kara ( which I have observed ).
Saddam Hussain Chara Athmakara is Venus . But he was not a very pleasure seeking person . I think not a womanizer . But look this .. he allowed all Iraqis to enyoy every things.
Night club / hotel drink . Other Arab country leaders prohibited these things in the name Of Islam.
So we must be careful when predicting about Chara karaka.
I t is Interesting Darakaraka Vimsotari Maha dasa gives money . Is it true ? In my case this is true. Darakaraka is EAGER ... so will money during its dasa.
Naturlal / naisarka athmakara is sun . Tamil Nadu chief minister Karunanidh's sun is exalated . So the soul lives in his body for long period. Now he is 87 +
If you watch the people who live nearly 90 yrs old .. their chatrs have good strength of the sun in D1 /D9.
siva sarasalai
Namaskar Members ,
Few more pointers about Atma Kara ( which I have observed ).
Saddam Hussain Chara Athmakara is Venus . But he was not a very pleasure seeking person . I think not a womanizer . But look this .. he allowed all Iraqis to enyoy every things.
Night club / hotel drink . Other Arab country leaders prohibited these things in the name Of Islam.
So we must be careful when predicting about Chara karaka.
I t is Interesting Darakaraka Vimsotari Maha dasa gives money . Is it true ? In my case this is true. Darakaraka is EAGER ... so will money during its dasa.
Naturlal / naisarka athmakara is sun . Tamil Nadu chief minister Karunanidh's sun is exalated . So the soul lives in his body for long period. Now he is 87 +
If you watch the people who live nearly 90 yrs old .. their chatrs have good strength of the sun in D1 /D9.
siva sarasalai
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I found a a goood article for beginners on AK.
http://www.komilla.com/pages/Atmakaraka.html
Might answer some questions. I liked reading it.
http://www.komilla.com/pages/Atmakaraka.html
Might answer some questions. I liked reading it.
Regards,
Ghrishneswar
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Some pointers of Ms Komila give confusion to me . ( about AK ).
1) What are the responsiblities this Prince has ? Whether he has to stand in the UK election to win ? No .
Whether he has to prepare the United Kingdom Annual budget ? ( biggest headach / responsibilities ) .
There are Prince and Queen in Malesia . They don't have any responsibilities. Prince Charles plays with Brunai King an expensive water ball games .
Is it very responsible ?. Suppose your child plays a game , then it is very responsible ? and it has more responsibliteis.
Burunai king is a famous womanizer . This may give very heavy resonsibiliteis to Burunai king. ???
2) If we look / study varga charts , then we must avoid the Bava charts ( except D-9 ). If we study Bhava chart with Rasi , then we should stop looking Varga charts.
If we study bava chart and Varga charts together, then this will give big confusion. Komila says something about AK in Bava . I think it is wrong. ( look all SJV Gurus... they completely avoid Bava chart )
3) Finally about Moksha and AK. Once Jagath Guru Kanchi Kamakodi Swami said ( not Jayajedra swami. but earlier one who left his soul at the age of 99 ) Attainig Moksha is not a simple matter. only one person in a 10 million can attain Moksha. So talking Moksha matters with William chart is really absurd .
We can talk about Moksha matters with Ramana Maha Rishi or Swami Vivehananda charts.
Above are my doubts . Can anyone clear these doubts ?
siva sarasalai
If any member clear my about doubts , I am thanful to to that member .
Some pointers of Ms Komila give confusion to me . ( about AK ).
1) What are the responsiblities this Prince has ? Whether he has to stand in the UK election to win ? No .
Whether he has to prepare the United Kingdom Annual budget ? ( biggest headach / responsibilities ) .
There are Prince and Queen in Malesia . They don't have any responsibilities. Prince Charles plays with Brunai King an expensive water ball games .
Is it very responsible ?. Suppose your child plays a game , then it is very responsible ? and it has more responsibliteis.
Burunai king is a famous womanizer . This may give very heavy resonsibiliteis to Burunai king. ???
2) If we look / study varga charts , then we must avoid the Bava charts ( except D-9 ). If we study Bhava chart with Rasi , then we should stop looking Varga charts.
If we study bava chart and Varga charts together, then this will give big confusion. Komila says something about AK in Bava . I think it is wrong. ( look all SJV Gurus... they completely avoid Bava chart )
3) Finally about Moksha and AK. Once Jagath Guru Kanchi Kamakodi Swami said ( not Jayajedra swami. but earlier one who left his soul at the age of 99 ) Attainig Moksha is not a simple matter. only one person in a 10 million can attain Moksha. So talking Moksha matters with William chart is really absurd .
We can talk about Moksha matters with Ramana Maha Rishi or Swami Vivehananda charts.
Above are my doubts . Can anyone clear these doubts ?
siva sarasalai
If any member clear my about doubts , I am thanful to to that member .
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All people mothesr are dying during AK dasa ?
Many people mothers are not dying during AK dasa then what will happen to their AK ? Are they not crying ?
Birds and animals also cry when their mothers die .
Oh these are my childish questions ???
siva sarasalai
All people mothesr are dying during AK dasa ?
Many people mothers are not dying during AK dasa then what will happen to their AK ? Are they not crying ?
Birds and animals also cry when their mothers die .
Oh these are my childish questions ???
siva sarasalai
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[quote="Virendra"]I think Suddam didn't renounce pleasure ... have you looked at the underground palaces he had ... !!! 
they're astonishing ...[/quote]
yes sir I understand you .
they're astonishing ...[/quote]
yes sir I understand you .
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Nitin21
My first daughter was born during Jupiter-MArs. Mars is my AK. She has the same birthmark below the spine as me. But my second daughter does not. She was born in Saturn-Saturn. Does this have some link with AK ?
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Sonu
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Sonu
This is an age of blasting of information,(not essentially of knowledge) and in the coming days ,due to
increasing uncertaintly of life several more blogs/websites will have their own interpreatations based upon famous or notorious personalities.
The job of an astrologer is basically to predict the future,if need be for reference,I would like to take the horoscopes of Lord Rama/Krishana instead of such priests who are reported as pedophiles or such actors/singers /princes who are known as persons of loose morals.
As for Atmakraka,like lord of ascendent,it is a powerful influence but we cannot attribute everything to that alone. It may (by coincident )have such effects as birth of a child or death of mother.
increasing uncertaintly of life several more blogs/websites will have their own interpreatations based upon famous or notorious personalities.
The job of an astrologer is basically to predict the future,if need be for reference,I would like to take the horoscopes of Lord Rama/Krishana instead of such priests who are reported as pedophiles or such actors/singers /princes who are known as persons of loose morals.
As for Atmakraka,like lord of ascendent,it is a powerful influence but we cannot attribute everything to that alone. It may (by coincident )have such effects as birth of a child or death of mother.
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Few years back , Jupiter and Saturn joined in Kala Purusha's firsh house ARIES. From this year till another one cycle , Astrological knowledge will grow.
Ju + Sat is called Brahma Yogam . Brahma is for creation. In a native chart , if Jupiter and saturn joined in D9 , then it is good for feritily - child birth.?
siva sarasalai
Few years back , Jupiter and Saturn joined in Kala Purusha's firsh house ARIES. From this year till another one cycle , Astrological knowledge will grow.
Ju + Sat is called Brahma Yogam . Brahma is for creation. In a native chart , if Jupiter and saturn joined in D9 , then it is good for feritily - child birth.?
siva sarasalai
AUSPICIOUS PLANETS IN THE 12TH HOUSE ARE GOOD FOR A LIFE OF PLEASURES (PROVIDED ONE HAS A CHEERFUL TEMPERAMENT TO ENJOY LIFE).
venus as AK is highly asupicious if such native has adopted positive features of venus,that is,Offer love, respect and honour to one's spouse and is truthful and honest in nature ,particularly with respect to spouse and person's of opposite sex (venus is a saint).
Spouse may act as a shield in the time of trouble. AK in 12th may make a native financially resourceful.
venus as AK is highly asupicious if such native has adopted positive features of venus,that is,Offer love, respect and honour to one's spouse and is truthful and honest in nature ,particularly with respect to spouse and person's of opposite sex (venus is a saint).
Spouse may act as a shield in the time of trouble. AK in 12th may make a native financially resourceful.
revribhav wrote:Extreme curiosity, fast learner, excellent analytical and sharp mind.Just need to take care before speaking.
Thank you revribhav ji, for reply to my both posts. i Am learning my chart so i need guidance from expert astrologers like you, i hope you will reply to my other posts and gude me. Thank you. kiranDear Kyos,
If you're learning, I suggest you prefer others charts to your own. It is difficult to judge your own chart without any bias in the hindsight. It may not be deliberate but still ...
At least from a learning perspective you may not gain as expected.
Happy learning by the way.
Regards,
Virendra
If you're learning, I suggest you prefer others charts to your own. It is difficult to judge your own chart without any bias in the hindsight. It may not be deliberate but still ...
At least from a learning perspective you may not gain as expected.
Happy learning by the way.
Regards,
Virendra
