hello Anupamji,
i have a confusion regarding the aspects of Rahu & Ketu. i have read in a book that Rahu has aspect on the 9th house, 5th and 12th house in clockwise direction and ketu doesn't have any aspect as it is blind.
but i have seen in the articles written by K.N. Rao's students that they have used the 5th and 9th aspect of Rahu and that also in an anti-clockwise direction. can you clear up the confusion as to why there are so many theories and which one should be used.
ASPECTS OF RAHU & KETU
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Basab
i have rarely seen people use the 12th aspect of Rahu but i read this 12th aspect of Rahu in a Bengali book on astrology.
Anupamji's observation is also very interesting, hope soemone can throw some light on it.
Anupamji's observation is also very interesting, hope soemone can throw some light on it.
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Basab
i have rahu in the 10th house with the moon which is the 10th lord in the 10th house. i have just passed the 3 yrs phase of rahu antardasha and it was one fo the most horrible phases in my life. maybe the middle phase of sade-sathi made matters worse. but i have seen many people pass through the dasha of arhu and if one get's it early in life it affects the person's education in a big way.
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Vaughn Paul
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Hi everyone,
About 7 years ago I asked K.N. Rao whether we should use the 5th and 9th aspects of Rahu and Ketu. He didn't recommend using them so since then I haven't used them. However, even before that I would only cautiously use them since this is a controversial point. I've found, at least with Vedic astrologers in the US, that very few use these aspects. Personally, it's never made sense logically that they should work. For instance, Jupiter, the great benefic, gives the 5th and 9th aspects. The 5th and 9th houses are the most benefic houses, so it's logical that these are benefic aspects. However, the nodes are of course malefics. It's never made sense to me that they would throw benefic aspects. Vaughn Paul
About 7 years ago I asked K.N. Rao whether we should use the 5th and 9th aspects of Rahu and Ketu. He didn't recommend using them so since then I haven't used them. However, even before that I would only cautiously use them since this is a controversial point. I've found, at least with Vedic astrologers in the US, that very few use these aspects. Personally, it's never made sense logically that they should work. For instance, Jupiter, the great benefic, gives the 5th and 9th aspects. The 5th and 9th houses are the most benefic houses, so it's logical that these are benefic aspects. However, the nodes are of course malefics. It's never made sense to me that they would throw benefic aspects. Vaughn Paul
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Basab
Vaughnji,
i was reading K.N. Rao's interview where he mentions that he doesn't use the exaltation/debiliation of rahu and ketu. i have observed that even you don't use the exaltaion/debiliation of rahu and ketu(in the articles). so is it because exaltation and debiliation of rahu and ketu is a big controversy?
i was reading K.N. Rao's interview where he mentions that he doesn't use the exaltation/debiliation of rahu and ketu. i have observed that even you don't use the exaltaion/debiliation of rahu and ketu(in the articles). so is it because exaltation and debiliation of rahu and ketu is a big controversy?
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Hi Basab,
Yes, it is another controversy.
In the BPHS, Parashara says, "In order to clarify the effects of the Dasha of Rahu, I shall first mention the exaltation and debilitation rashis of Rahu and Ketu. The exaltation rashi of Rahu is Taurus. The exaltation rashi of Ketu is Scorpio. The Moola-Trikonas of Rahu and Ketu are Gemini and Sagittarius respectively. The own rashis of Rahu and Ketu are Aquarius and Scorpio in that order. Some sages have expressed the view that Virgo is the own rashi of Rahu and Pisces is the own rashi of Ketu. Ch. 47, v. 34-39-1/2 (Translation R. Santhanam or in Girish Chand Sharma translation it's Ch. 49)
Because K.N. Rao has said that the BPHS is 100% correct, I've assumed that he used these exaltation, debilitation, moolatrikona, and own house signs of the nodes. I will check with him about that. I'm curious which interview does he mention this? Vaughn Paul
Yes, it is another controversy.
In the BPHS, Parashara says, "In order to clarify the effects of the Dasha of Rahu, I shall first mention the exaltation and debilitation rashis of Rahu and Ketu. The exaltation rashi of Rahu is Taurus. The exaltation rashi of Ketu is Scorpio. The Moola-Trikonas of Rahu and Ketu are Gemini and Sagittarius respectively. The own rashis of Rahu and Ketu are Aquarius and Scorpio in that order. Some sages have expressed the view that Virgo is the own rashi of Rahu and Pisces is the own rashi of Ketu. Ch. 47, v. 34-39-1/2 (Translation R. Santhanam or in Girish Chand Sharma translation it's Ch. 49)
Because K.N. Rao has said that the BPHS is 100% correct, I've assumed that he used these exaltation, debilitation, moolatrikona, and own house signs of the nodes. I will check with him about that. I'm curious which interview does he mention this? Vaughn Paul
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Basab
hello Vaughnji,
thanks for the reply.
the link for the interview where K.N. Rao has mentioned that he doesn't consider the exaltation and debiliation signs of Rahu and Ketu is attached herewith.
http://lightonvedicastrology.com/articles-knrao.htm
it's there in the last portion of the interview.
K.N. Rao says in answer to the question on the controversy of exaltation and debiliation signs of Rahu & Ketu:
"b) This is an old controversy. I do not use the exaltation/debilitation signs for Rahu/Ketu at all. On the other hand the condition of Rahu and Ketu and their dispositors[46] gives us good results. My favorite case is that of John F. Kennedy, the ex-president of USA, who achieved all his political eminence and glories in the Mahadasha of Rahu in Dhanu (where it is supposed to be debilitated). In the next Dasha of Jupiter, he was killed.
thanks for the reply.
the link for the interview where K.N. Rao has mentioned that he doesn't consider the exaltation and debiliation signs of Rahu and Ketu is attached herewith.
http://lightonvedicastrology.com/articles-knrao.htm
it's there in the last portion of the interview.
K.N. Rao says in answer to the question on the controversy of exaltation and debiliation signs of Rahu & Ketu:
"b) This is an old controversy. I do not use the exaltation/debilitation signs for Rahu/Ketu at all. On the other hand the condition of Rahu and Ketu and their dispositors[46] gives us good results. My favorite case is that of John F. Kennedy, the ex-president of USA, who achieved all his political eminence and glories in the Mahadasha of Rahu in Dhanu (where it is supposed to be debilitated). In the next Dasha of Jupiter, he was killed.
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Basab
dear Vaughnji,
is it okay to use the debiliation/exaltation/mooltrikona/own house of rahu and ketu when analyzing a horoscope?
is it okay to use the debiliation/exaltation/mooltrikona/own house of rahu and ketu when analyzing a horoscope?
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Hi Basab and others,
I checked with K.N. Rao about using the exaltation, moolatrikona, and own house of Rahu/Ketu as given in the BPHS (quoted above) and his suggestion was to ignore these. He has said that you'll get better results if you focus on the dispositor of Rahu/Ketu and the aspects to them. It could be that he's making a point of this because astrologers tend to make a big deal about the exaltation, moolatrikona, own house, and debility of Rahu/Ketu and lose sight of these other points. Their dignity by sign placements is one factor and we can get an idea of the strength of Rahu/Ketu by using Parashara's rules here, but give more weight to the dispositor of Rahu/Ketu and aspects by other planets. Remember that they are impressionable planets and will take on the qualities of the planets that they are conjunct, aspected by, and disposited by. Vaughn Paul
I checked with K.N. Rao about using the exaltation, moolatrikona, and own house of Rahu/Ketu as given in the BPHS (quoted above) and his suggestion was to ignore these. He has said that you'll get better results if you focus on the dispositor of Rahu/Ketu and the aspects to them. It could be that he's making a point of this because astrologers tend to make a big deal about the exaltation, moolatrikona, own house, and debility of Rahu/Ketu and lose sight of these other points. Their dignity by sign placements is one factor and we can get an idea of the strength of Rahu/Ketu by using Parashara's rules here, but give more weight to the dispositor of Rahu/Ketu and aspects by other planets. Remember that they are impressionable planets and will take on the qualities of the planets that they are conjunct, aspected by, and disposited by. Vaughn Paul
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Basab
hello Vaughnji,
thank you so much for clearing up my confusion about rahu & ketu. i really appreciate it.
thank you so much for clearing up my confusion about rahu & ketu. i really appreciate it.
Hello Gurus
I'VE Heard that Rahu's aspect on Sun , destroys the sun as well
as the house which Rahu occupies.
I have in my chart, rahu in 3rd house and Sun in 7th House, and according
to me , Rahu's aspects are on 5th & 9th houses.
Can you'll please explain.
Cheers, Dev
I'VE Heard that Rahu's aspect on Sun , destroys the sun as well
as the house which Rahu occupies.
I have in my chart, rahu in 3rd house and Sun in 7th House, and according
to me , Rahu's aspects are on 5th & 9th houses.
Can you'll please explain.
Cheers, Dev
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shweta_554
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Hi,
I am not a learned astrologer so please forgive any mistakes, but this is something I had read somewhere which gives a good explanation about Rahu 5th, 9th and 12th aspect and reason after it.
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As for the aspects of Rahu and Ketu, they are the head and the body of the demon Rahu respectively. Rahu wanted to take the position of the demigods and drink the nectar of immortality, but Vishu in the form of Mohini Murti severed his head from his body. Therefore Rahu has the similar aspects to Jupiter, the Guru of demigids, as he has the desire to spoil what Jupiter gives. So the aspect of Jupiter on the 5th and 9th house indicates poorva-punya while the aspect of Rahu on the same indicates poorva-papa, or sinful activities in previous birth. Rahu also has an aspect on the 2nd house from his position, which is actually the 12th, as Rahu is retrograde. The 12th house indicates the dharma inherited from our gotra, or dynasty, which Rahu did not want to follow. He was born in dynasty of Asuras(demons), but he wanted to be in positions of Suras(demigods). Ketu, on the other hand, being the severed body of Rahu does not have a head and eyes, hence he cannot glance. Hw will not be able to cast any Graha Drshti, only Rasi Drishti. Ofcourse, there would be malefic influence on the 3rd, 6th and 11th houses from Ketu, but this is actually caused by Rahu, which is always opposite Ketu.
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I am not a learned astrologer so please forgive any mistakes, but this is something I had read somewhere which gives a good explanation about Rahu 5th, 9th and 12th aspect and reason after it.
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As for the aspects of Rahu and Ketu, they are the head and the body of the demon Rahu respectively. Rahu wanted to take the position of the demigods and drink the nectar of immortality, but Vishu in the form of Mohini Murti severed his head from his body. Therefore Rahu has the similar aspects to Jupiter, the Guru of demigids, as he has the desire to spoil what Jupiter gives. So the aspect of Jupiter on the 5th and 9th house indicates poorva-punya while the aspect of Rahu on the same indicates poorva-papa, or sinful activities in previous birth. Rahu also has an aspect on the 2nd house from his position, which is actually the 12th, as Rahu is retrograde. The 12th house indicates the dharma inherited from our gotra, or dynasty, which Rahu did not want to follow. He was born in dynasty of Asuras(demons), but he wanted to be in positions of Suras(demigods). Ketu, on the other hand, being the severed body of Rahu does not have a head and eyes, hence he cannot glance. Hw will not be able to cast any Graha Drshti, only Rasi Drishti. Ofcourse, there would be malefic influence on the 3rd, 6th and 11th houses from Ketu, but this is actually caused by Rahu, which is always opposite Ketu.
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Is it not true that whereever these demons are placed in one's moon chart determines what the person will abandon in order to pursue?
Examples: Ketu in the 4th & Rahu in the 10th in one's Chandra Lagna chart indicates the person will abandon family for Career. (abandon can mean either spending long hours each day away from family or complete abandonment)
Rahu in the 7th from chandra lagna indicates much energy put into a significant other and not paying much mind to oneself.
Isn't this the case?
Examples: Ketu in the 4th & Rahu in the 10th in one's Chandra Lagna chart indicates the person will abandon family for Career. (abandon can mean either spending long hours each day away from family or complete abandonment)
Rahu in the 7th from chandra lagna indicates much energy put into a significant other and not paying much mind to oneself.
Isn't this the case?
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moksha line
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Hello basab,Basab wrote:i have rahu in the 10th house with the moon which is the 10th lord in the 10th house. i have just passed the 3 yrs phase of rahu antardasha and it was one fo the most horrible phases in my life. maybe the middle phase of sade-sathi made matters worse. but i have seen many people pass through the dasha of arhu and if one get's it early in life it affects the person's education in a big way.
My period of rahu-rahu has been like nothing u mentioned. Infact it was one of the best times for me
Regards
Hello Moksha,
Thanks for your feedback. Great to know that your Rahu-Rahu period was good. I wrote this post long back. I have seen many charts after that, and I feel that if Rahu is well placed in a chart, its period can do a lot of good, even give good education.
Thanks for your feedback. Great to know that your Rahu-Rahu period was good. I wrote this post long back. I have seen many charts after that, and I feel that if Rahu is well placed in a chart, its period can do a lot of good, even give good education.
"Go thou and follow Him, who was born and gave His life for others five hundred times before He attained the vision of the Buddha!" -- Swami Vivekananda
Rahu at 6H, Jup at kendras gives -"ASTA LAKSHMI YOGA"-will generate.
It offers Win over enemes,gud health, full fill all desires.
But Rah,Guru never get any affliction for above Yoga fully working.
--SREEDHAR-
It offers Win over enemes,gud health, full fill all desires.
But Rah,Guru never get any affliction for above Yoga fully working.
--SREEDHAR-
SARVE JANAAHA SUKHINO BHAVANTU
SAMASTA SANMANGALANI BHAVANTU
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SAMASTA SANMANGALANI BHAVANTU
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Hi Yellow,
Yea .. The post is very old i guess..
Sreedhar,
You mean Jup in a kendra from lagna or kendra to rahu?
Moksha Line
Yea .. The post is very old i guess..
Sreedhar,
You mean Jup in a kendra from lagna or kendra to rahu?
Moksha Line
Respected Sir, Madam,
How powerful would fourth house Rahu be in a chart with Mars lagna in Leo? What impact might this have on the family?
Date of birth - 20 May, 2012, time 2:50 pm,
coordinates - 33°03′01″N 96°44′45″W / 33.05028°N 96.74583°W
How powerful would fourth house Rahu be in a chart with Mars lagna in Leo? What impact might this have on the family?
Date of birth - 20 May, 2012, time 2:50 pm,
coordinates - 33°03′01″N 96°44′45″W / 33.05028°N 96.74583°W
[quote="Vaughn Paul"]if you focus on the dispositor of Rahu/Ketu and the aspects to them. ...
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Remember that they are impressionable planets and will take on the qualities of the planets that they are conjunct, aspected by, and disposited by. Vaughn Paul[/quote]
Would it be possible for you to give one example of how you'd interpret R/K dispositors.. say Aries Rahu in 6th house.. so the dispositors become Mars (for Rahu) and Venus (for Ketu).
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Remember that they are impressionable planets and will take on the qualities of the planets that they are conjunct, aspected by, and disposited by. Vaughn Paul[/quote]
Would it be possible for you to give one example of how you'd interpret R/K dispositors.. say Aries Rahu in 6th house.. so the dispositors become Mars (for Rahu) and Venus (for Ketu).
