sir,
I feel all the MP yogas are the same. they have the same way of affecting the native. whether it the badhra yoga or hamsa yoga or any other ,the end result of the MP yogas are just the same.planets are just a excuse to give a particular bent of mind to the native. every MP yoga I feel manifest in the same way.It requires a keen astrologer to determine which Mp yoga is functioning in the native.now I understand a strong and workholic personality is the result of MP yoga.
I was just wondering which is the planet responsible for making a person worldliwise. without worldliwiseness there is nor success in life. some learn this art early in life and taste success while for some others this art has to be self taught.In my opinion venus is the planet which gives a good worldliwiseness and helps a person to distinguish between good or evil. the art of interpersonal skill is given by venus I feel.
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MAHAPURUSHA YOGA
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Dear Diksha,
You are right. But one thing cannot work without the other- all planets are equally responsible if you want to survive in this world.
Venus truly represents the creative side of human beings. Our brain has two parts ( http://www.innolance.com/blog/wp-conten ... n_xp11.jpg ) - left side is the logical side that determines anything based on facts and gives you the most rational answer. But how much you want it? Because if you push your logic to extreme lengths your view of the world naturally changes. The best way to live in this world is to live for ourselves and not care about others, don't care what happens to others as long as you get success....your heart says no. Do you really want success of the Vipareeta Raja Yoga? Because it brings you success after someone else's loses and that person might well be your brother or sister. So making logical choices here will create a breakdown in relationships, many people have this problem in real-life. So we need to tone down our logic and make it more practicable, that way we are more accepted in this world and that is where Venus comes into picture. Right side of our brain represents Creativity and when it is pushed to limits it naturally forms femininity. So everyone of us has a bit of that masculine (mars/Jupiter/sun) and feminine side(moon/Venus) but nothing really appears outside- it's the flow our mental work process. We have our own idea of life which we primarily define it by pleasure and luxury. Our idea of life is based on our creative thinking ability and Venus is really at a forefront when it comes to this.
Best
You are right. But one thing cannot work without the other- all planets are equally responsible if you want to survive in this world.
Venus truly represents the creative side of human beings. Our brain has two parts ( http://www.innolance.com/blog/wp-conten ... n_xp11.jpg ) - left side is the logical side that determines anything based on facts and gives you the most rational answer. But how much you want it? Because if you push your logic to extreme lengths your view of the world naturally changes. The best way to live in this world is to live for ourselves and not care about others, don't care what happens to others as long as you get success....your heart says no. Do you really want success of the Vipareeta Raja Yoga? Because it brings you success after someone else's loses and that person might well be your brother or sister. So making logical choices here will create a breakdown in relationships, many people have this problem in real-life. So we need to tone down our logic and make it more practicable, that way we are more accepted in this world and that is where Venus comes into picture. Right side of our brain represents Creativity and when it is pushed to limits it naturally forms femininity. So everyone of us has a bit of that masculine (mars/Jupiter/sun) and feminine side(moon/Venus) but nothing really appears outside- it's the flow our mental work process. We have our own idea of life which we primarily define it by pleasure and luxury. Our idea of life is based on our creative thinking ability and Venus is really at a forefront when it comes to this.
Best
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Ruchaka is fairly average due to Saturn affliction, you should avoid doing anything hasty during Saturn-Mars period.
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avoid anything hasty which involves
1. Rash driving/with friends/or under the influence of Alcohol
2. Taking spot decisions
3. Arguing with parents/family
4. Mistreating beggars/homeless
Remedies:
1. Recite "Om Srim Hrim Klim Aim Saum Saravana Bhavaya Namah" 108 times and observe fast on every Krishna Shasti. Sprinkle milk around ant-hill in temples.
2. For further details, read this: http://lightonvedicastrology.com/phpBB3 ... 12&t=17552
1. Rash driving/with friends/or under the influence of Alcohol
2. Taking spot decisions
3. Arguing with parents/family
4. Mistreating beggars/homeless
Remedies:
1. Recite "Om Srim Hrim Klim Aim Saum Saravana Bhavaya Namah" 108 times and observe fast on every Krishna Shasti. Sprinkle milk around ant-hill in temples.
2. For further details, read this: http://lightonvedicastrology.com/phpBB3 ... 12&t=17552
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Dear Amy,
You are right they do correspond to D9. Which is why D1 and D9 are the most important divisions for predictive astrology. In 90% of the cases you don't need to look at any other divisions, higher divisions are meant for research purposes, but D1 and D9 shows pretty much everything about yogas and the future. In D9, planets in the higher houses tend to work first - indicating the karma required for secondary houses to activate.
For example: if Mercury owns 1 and 4, you can be pretty sure that the 4th house has highest influence on the native which makes up the 1st house. So the native personality is most likely influenced by the mother or the person of equal status.
You can apply this to D1 as well.
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Rahu and Ketu do not own any nakshatras or houses in a traditional sense. But it is said that Ardra, Swati and Shatabisha are ruled by Rahu and Ashwini, Magha and Moola are ruled by Ketu. Based on this data we can determine their placement in D9 by applying the pada lords of Mercury and Jupiter respectively – who are the owners of Gemini and Sagittarius.
You need to have in-depth knowledge on Rahu and Ketu before you can understand the stars lorded by them. The function of Rahu and Ketu is quite different, they don't behave like planets because they don't own any houses. They are celestial poles. Like a magnet - they are attracted wherever there is strongest planetary affinity.
How do planets communicate? What enables a conjunction or an aspect? How does a planet know its role in the chart? These tough topics aren't generally discussed.
From what I know, Rahu acts as a carrier for planets - enabling communication, aspect and conjunction between planets. He however has his own independent mind, which means he may not always obey the planet or the ascendant lord and may carry false and sometimes harmful messages. This has baffled many astrologers over the years- why don't charts work as predicted?? It’s because Rahu and Ketu are totally in command whereas other planets have become less relevant.
For example: Misunderstanding between 1st and the 4th, making the native argue with his mother is also the work of Rahu. So planets are helpless in this case and the only remedy is to recognize the presence of rahu.
In human body - rahu and ketu represent the spinal column, as it acts as carrier of messages to the brain.
In the real world - anything related to communication, travel, vision and sound are linked to Rahu. He is also an illusory force - we stare at TV for hours even though we realize there is nothing but a screen in front of us, as soon as we turn it off we come back to reality. So getting attracted to illusions - something which is not real is the work of Rahu. In the chart - Rahu makes the native chase wrong things by creating illusions, making the ascendant lord bend to his will and implanting unrealistic ideas into him. If the ascendant lord is strong then the native will be strong enough to reject those impulses but in many cases people are chasing nothing but Alice in wonderland like goals they've set for themselves.
Children fall easy prey for this illusive force as they tend to believe firmly in fantasies. This is a good thing also as it induces creativity. But if they carry on for ages it paves the way for various psychological and social disorders. If well tamed however- it makes great writers, actors and in some cases politicians.
So this is how native's future deviates from what the chart says. Rahu has highest control on weak planets - manipulating their messages by pretending to do their bidding.
Ketu represents the root, anything that grows and has a firm foundation. So ketu can grow based on how well the native is bought up. A weak ketu in the chart makes the native characterless getting easily influenced by anything and everything.
Strong ketu in a woman's chart shows a strong family tree, it can mean she will have children of great character. In human body, Ketu represents the bones.
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The nakshatras commanded by Rahu has total control over native's actions, so one can’t simply predict the yogas by looking at planetary positions when planet itself is under the influence of Rahu. Yogas formed in these charts are subject to the strength of Rahu – a yoga can act abnormally or in reverse due to Rahu’s manipulative nature.
If Rahu is well placed in the chart - the native will witness a great life experience, if badly placed then the native will be heading for a disaster- but various remedies are available to dampen the negative effects of Rahu and afflicted moon.
I hope you got the gist of it – you need to study the charts of real people you know to practice all of these.
Best
elipsis
You are right they do correspond to D9. Which is why D1 and D9 are the most important divisions for predictive astrology. In 90% of the cases you don't need to look at any other divisions, higher divisions are meant for research purposes, but D1 and D9 shows pretty much everything about yogas and the future. In D9, planets in the higher houses tend to work first - indicating the karma required for secondary houses to activate.
For example: if Mercury owns 1 and 4, you can be pretty sure that the 4th house has highest influence on the native which makes up the 1st house. So the native personality is most likely influenced by the mother or the person of equal status.
You can apply this to D1 as well.
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Rahu and Ketu do not own any nakshatras or houses in a traditional sense. But it is said that Ardra, Swati and Shatabisha are ruled by Rahu and Ashwini, Magha and Moola are ruled by Ketu. Based on this data we can determine their placement in D9 by applying the pada lords of Mercury and Jupiter respectively – who are the owners of Gemini and Sagittarius.
You need to have in-depth knowledge on Rahu and Ketu before you can understand the stars lorded by them. The function of Rahu and Ketu is quite different, they don't behave like planets because they don't own any houses. They are celestial poles. Like a magnet - they are attracted wherever there is strongest planetary affinity.
How do planets communicate? What enables a conjunction or an aspect? How does a planet know its role in the chart? These tough topics aren't generally discussed.
From what I know, Rahu acts as a carrier for planets - enabling communication, aspect and conjunction between planets. He however has his own independent mind, which means he may not always obey the planet or the ascendant lord and may carry false and sometimes harmful messages. This has baffled many astrologers over the years- why don't charts work as predicted?? It’s because Rahu and Ketu are totally in command whereas other planets have become less relevant.
For example: Misunderstanding between 1st and the 4th, making the native argue with his mother is also the work of Rahu. So planets are helpless in this case and the only remedy is to recognize the presence of rahu.
In human body - rahu and ketu represent the spinal column, as it acts as carrier of messages to the brain.
In the real world - anything related to communication, travel, vision and sound are linked to Rahu. He is also an illusory force - we stare at TV for hours even though we realize there is nothing but a screen in front of us, as soon as we turn it off we come back to reality. So getting attracted to illusions - something which is not real is the work of Rahu. In the chart - Rahu makes the native chase wrong things by creating illusions, making the ascendant lord bend to his will and implanting unrealistic ideas into him. If the ascendant lord is strong then the native will be strong enough to reject those impulses but in many cases people are chasing nothing but Alice in wonderland like goals they've set for themselves.
Children fall easy prey for this illusive force as they tend to believe firmly in fantasies. This is a good thing also as it induces creativity. But if they carry on for ages it paves the way for various psychological and social disorders. If well tamed however- it makes great writers, actors and in some cases politicians.
So this is how native's future deviates from what the chart says. Rahu has highest control on weak planets - manipulating their messages by pretending to do their bidding.
Ketu represents the root, anything that grows and has a firm foundation. So ketu can grow based on how well the native is bought up. A weak ketu in the chart makes the native characterless getting easily influenced by anything and everything.
Strong ketu in a woman's chart shows a strong family tree, it can mean she will have children of great character. In human body, Ketu represents the bones.
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The nakshatras commanded by Rahu has total control over native's actions, so one can’t simply predict the yogas by looking at planetary positions when planet itself is under the influence of Rahu. Yogas formed in these charts are subject to the strength of Rahu – a yoga can act abnormally or in reverse due to Rahu’s manipulative nature.
If Rahu is well placed in the chart - the native will witness a great life experience, if badly placed then the native will be heading for a disaster- but various remedies are available to dampen the negative effects of Rahu and afflicted moon.
I hope you got the gist of it – you need to study the charts of real people you know to practice all of these.
Best
elipsis
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Hi Elipsis,
I have sun, saturn and mercury in eighth house. My dob is sep 21, 1982, 4:30 p.m. in chennai.
Saturn is my lagna lord, atmakaraka and is varghotamma in virgo. I am wondering the effects of 3 planets in eighth house. Based on this position, DO you see any problems? What would be a remedy?
I read somewhere atmakaraka saturn in varghotamma gives a person great endurance. It is very much true for me. I have also had delays althrough my life so far.. The end result was always very positive. However, I was concerned about the placement of 7th lord sun in eight and next dasa lord mercury in 8th. I am interested in knowing your thoughts on this.
Besides, these I have rahu in 5th and ketu in 11. Is this kala sarpa yoga or kala amrita yoga? do you know any remedy to reduce the ill effects of these positions?
Thanks
Deepak
I have sun, saturn and mercury in eighth house. My dob is sep 21, 1982, 4:30 p.m. in chennai.
Saturn is my lagna lord, atmakaraka and is varghotamma in virgo. I am wondering the effects of 3 planets in eighth house. Based on this position, DO you see any problems? What would be a remedy?
I read somewhere atmakaraka saturn in varghotamma gives a person great endurance. It is very much true for me. I have also had delays althrough my life so far.. The end result was always very positive. However, I was concerned about the placement of 7th lord sun in eight and next dasa lord mercury in 8th. I am interested in knowing your thoughts on this.
Besides, these I have rahu in 5th and ketu in 11. Is this kala sarpa yoga or kala amrita yoga? do you know any remedy to reduce the ill effects of these positions?
Thanks
Deepak
Hello Deepak,
There is no such thing as Kala-sarpa yoga, there are various sarpa doshas but none of them are as generalized as kala-sarpa.
And then you wanted to know about 7th lord in the 8th. Traditionally, it is considered a bad sign for the 7th lord as the native is likely to encounter unforeseen events related to married life. According to Parasara the native wife's will witness health issues later in life. However due to placement of Mercury and Saturn you are likely to encounter mixed results.
Since you are born in Vishaka nakshatra you should follow a disciplined and spiritual life. Never travel in a group, avoid rahu kaal and follow murhurtas in panchang strictly. Also visit temples near rivers/oceans.
Best
There is no such thing as Kala-sarpa yoga, there are various sarpa doshas but none of them are as generalized as kala-sarpa.
And then you wanted to know about 7th lord in the 8th. Traditionally, it is considered a bad sign for the 7th lord as the native is likely to encounter unforeseen events related to married life. According to Parasara the native wife's will witness health issues later in life. However due to placement of Mercury and Saturn you are likely to encounter mixed results.
Since you are born in Vishaka nakshatra you should follow a disciplined and spiritual life. Never travel in a group, avoid rahu kaal and follow murhurtas in panchang strictly. Also visit temples near rivers/oceans.
Best
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Dear Elipsis ji,elipsis wrote:Hello Deepak,
Since you are born in Vishaka nakshatra you should follow a disciplined and spiritual life. Never travel in a group, avoid rahu kaal and follow murhurtas in panchang strictly. Also visit temples near rivers/oceans.
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Noticed your suggestion for Vishaka Nakshatra natives.
Interested to hear what would be your advice for Shravana Nakshatra natives. Thanks
For shravana, visit Nandi and Tripura Sundari Temple (in that order) in Mysore every year.
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Thanks Elipsis jielipsis wrote:For shravana, visit Nandi and Tripura Sundari Temple (in that order) in Mysore every year.
I'll paste what I said earlier about this:
Jupiter, Venus and Saturn have their own independent hierarchy, these planets that don't depend on Sun for sustenance- this means they can live or thrive even without Sun, so Vargottama positions or own signs in D9 are acceptable,but when other planets transits their own Nakshatra the eclipsing has a bearing on D9 as well- this is not acceptable, so astrologers look at the functional nature of a planet to establish the effectiveness of a yoga. Jupiter and Sun are the natural karakas of 9th house, Venus is a karaka of Marriage and Saturn is the natural enemy of D9.
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And now you can ask about Rahu-Ketu, if you don't mind I'll take sometime in replying - as I am at work.
Jupiter, Venus and Saturn have their own independent hierarchy, these planets that don't depend on Sun for sustenance- this means they can live or thrive even without Sun, so Vargottama positions or own signs in D9 are acceptable,but when other planets transits their own Nakshatra the eclipsing has a bearing on D9 as well- this is not acceptable, so astrologers look at the functional nature of a planet to establish the effectiveness of a yoga. Jupiter and Sun are the natural karakas of 9th house, Venus is a karaka of Marriage and Saturn is the natural enemy of D9.
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And now you can ask about Rahu-Ketu, if you don't mind I'll take sometime in replying - as I am at work.
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Hello Elipsis,
Thanks for your advice..
"Since you are born in Vishaka nakshatra you should follow a disciplined and spiritual life."
Curious to know why this statement is more applicable for vishaka natives..
"According to Parasara the native wife's will witness health issues later in life. "
My marriage got much delayed but then got married to a wonderful woman. I feel concerned about the illness that she may get in later life. Is there any way that I could nullify this by a remedy?
Thanks
Deepak
Thanks for your advice..
"Since you are born in Vishaka nakshatra you should follow a disciplined and spiritual life."
Curious to know why this statement is more applicable for vishaka natives..
"According to Parasara the native wife's will witness health issues later in life. "
My marriage got much delayed but then got married to a wonderful woman. I feel concerned about the illness that she may get in later life. Is there any way that I could nullify this by a remedy?
Thanks
Deepak
Curious to know why this statement is more applicable for vishaka natives..
That's the nature of the star, it is quite old-fashioned and cannot adjust to the changing world. It prefers to be among sattvic people.
My marriage got much delayed but then got married to a wonderful woman. I feel concerned about the illness that she may get in later life. Is there any way that I could nullify this by a remedy?
^^ Lead a spiritual life, practice vegetarianism.
That's the nature of the star, it is quite old-fashioned and cannot adjust to the changing world. It prefers to be among sattvic people.
My marriage got much delayed but then got married to a wonderful woman. I feel concerned about the illness that she may get in later life. Is there any way that I could nullify this by a remedy?
^^ Lead a spiritual life, practice vegetarianism.
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It doesn't have to be Moola trikona, in any chart - the ownership of the higher house is the most powerful. For virgo asc - Venus rules 2nd and 9th. Without 9th being activated 2nd house won't work on its own.Amy wrote: OK. Thanks.
Regarding that Mercury example you gave, I was obviously drawing strange conclusions... If Mercury is lord of 1st and 4th, then the 4th would be Virgo, its Mooltrikona (and, therefore, would have a greater impact in giving results ... I assume that is the thinking ... looking to MT sign to state the nature of results ...)
As I've explained earlier - Padas of Mercury and Jupiter are assigned to Rahu and ketu. So, they try to assume the qualities of Mercury/Jupiter and pretend to do the bidding of any planet they come in contact with, their intentions aren't always in the interest of the native. Rahu and Ketu transiting their own stars is a rare occurrence, but in most other cases they do the bidding of the Nakshatra lord. If Rahu transits the Nakshatra of Sun - the influence of Rahu depends on where sun is posited in the chart. If Sun is in 10th house then Rahu is also present. The pada lords also have to be taken into account as they too are affected.About Rahu-Ketu, I had only one question ... and please answer at your convenience ... no hurry.
My question is, going by the pada system you mentioned, what happens if Rahu or Ketu are in their own nakshatras or in each other's nakshatra? Even without the pada system, I think this is a question that intrigues many, including me ...
Hopefully, that's my last question to you and I shouldn't bother you for sometime.
Thanks for all the information and analysis so far! Every bit's helping.
Regards,
Amy
I suggest you look at the chart of Princess Diana, when she met her death she was running Jupiter-Rahu period (vimshottari), but it is important to note that Rahu is in Magha Nakshatra pretending to be Jupiter and he also conjuncts the ascendant lord - indicating native's fate is overridden by Rahu. So, always remember to red-flag charts like this - as this oddball behavior of Rahu can lead to sticky ends as rahu assumes the qualities of a different planet confusing other planets and aspects that comes under its radar.
Someone had written a big article sometime ago on this subject but I can't remember which section.
If the ascendant lord is abundantly strong, rahu does really well in trish houses (3,6,11) - 6th being the most harmless position as the native only feels the symptoms of diseases, but rarely acquire one.
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Elipsis ji,elipsis wrote:
If the ascendant lord is abundantly strong, rahu does really well in trish houses (3,6,11) - 6th being the most harmless position as the native only feels the symptoms of diseases, but rarely acquire one.
Please explain this? What if the period of 6th lord/6th house planet is running, does it indicate the person will be troubled by diseases but it wont be there?
Pretty, If the 6th lord owns higher houses (like 11th) then you won't be affected by diseases at any point in the dasa. But it really depends on the chart - as it requires ascendant lord to be strong. If the 6th lord doesn't own any higher houses then the strength of the chart have to be measured (ascendant lord, day of birth, shad bala etc).
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