Reckoning Children from Saptamsa

[P. Dutta]

In navamsa - find out number of malefics placed between that moveable sign and the sign where 5th lord is placed. Subtract this number of malefics from the 8 to get a closer number.

Shrikanth

Shrikanth ji,
Her 5L Mars is placed in Taurus in Navamsha and Capricorn contains Sun.
Now to find out the number of malefics between Capricorn and Taurus, should we consider the malefics placed between Capricorn and Taurus or between Taurus and Capricorn (as per JHora chart)? I mean, should we traverse from Sun towards Mars or from Mars towards Sun, to count the malefics?

Thanks,
P. Dutta

[P. Dutta]

One correction Shrikanth ji. Her 5L mars is placed in Libra in Rashi and in Taurus in Navamsha. So I guess we should calculate the trines from Libra and not from Taurus, as I did in my previous post. So her trines are Li, Aq and Ge; of these Libra is a movable sign.

In Navamsha the number of malefics present between Libra and Mars (placed in Taurus in Navamsa) is 4 excluding Mars itself. But (8-4)=4 conceptions are still too high. Nowadays people don't go beyond 2 children. So not sure how good your theory goes.

--Thanks,
P. Dutta

[vasuumaprasad]

my date of birth is May 11th 1971 at 23.10, longitude is 81.45 E and latitude 16.48 N.
could anyone analysis my chart and tell me whether i will have children of my own in this life or not. i am having saturn tharus in 5th house in natal chart and saturn in virchikam in saptamsa chart. i had one miscarriage 2 months miscarriage. I had one ivf but failed. I am thinking that my saptamsa chart lagna has jupiter with moon which is naisarigikaraka jupiter in saptamsa lagna which is bad for progeny.I analysed my chart and i lost my hopes. Please can anyone help me in analysing my horoscope and predict whether i will have children. My husband side do not believe in horoscopes and so i do not known the horoscope of my husband. I believe that woman is the main cause for progeny, so i am analysis my chart only. I had only one brother no youger siblings.
my father and mother are alive and happy.

my first marriage lasts only 5 days, then divorced . I research about my natal chart and then i confirmed because of saturn in fifth house aspecting 7th house that is why i got divorce
But i do not known how i got a very good husband in the second marriage. but now i am worried about whether i will have children or not.

[vasuumaprasad]

hello shrikanth ji

yes my date of birth is May 11th 1971 at 23 hrs 10 minutes and place is tanuku near Bhimavaram AP,
first wedding day is 13/08/2006, and court gave divorce orders in December 2007.
second wedding is may 6th 2009
miscarriage december 2011 this is second month miscarriage.2012 October first ivf failed.
I am having eyes problems, i.e., short sight and wear eye glasses. My educations is also not well. I really worked hard to study post graduation but i could not get entry in to any university. I applied and tried hard to get any government job but i could not get any job. now at present i am not working simply sitting in the house. In my life i have wasted my enter time. During my young age nobody is interested to marry me.

[dimple]

hello vasuumaprasad ji if u don't mind will u pl tell me whether first marriage was arranged or love??just for my study

thank u

[howzat]

dear Vasumaprasad,

main problem is age is advancing. But astrology problem is also there. what happened you know? marriage delay was leading to children delay. Kuja Rahu Ketu Shani - all seeing 7H. 7L Chandra is debilitated and is sitting with 12L Guru. That is why delay happened then marriage happened but divorce happened. Shani in 5H aspected by 12L Guru is main cause for delay for children. Guru is aspecting 5L shukra also. it is problem.

In D7 again in 5H Shani is there.

If you do remedy for Guru and Shani then child will come quickly. guru also in Fatal degree, so Guru remedy is important. In home town, visit good temple priest who is senior and is knowing astrology and who will do remedy for cheap money. Good priest is must because Shani is there. Do remedy madam. you will have child dont worry. Dasha is Shukra - who is 5L - Next antardasha of Guru. If Guru gives means he will give, otherwise he will not give. So do remedy for Guru fastly. Main problem is Guru and Shani only.

[howzat]

i did kshetra beeja sputa test. Aries is coming as beeja sputa lagna. Lord is exalted, But 6L Budha + Hot Graha sun is giving miscarriage. But Kuja is exalted no. Child will be there. Do remedy madam. dont worry.

[vasuumaprasad]

[quote="dimple"]hello vasuumaprasad ji if u don't mind will u pl tell me whether first marriage was arranged or love??just for my study

thank u[/quote]

first marriage and second marriage both are arranged marriages

[dimple]

thank u very much for giving me information

[vasuumaprasad]

[quote="howzat"]i did kshetra beeja sputa test. Aries is coming as beeja sputa lagna. Lord is exalted, But 6L Budha + Hot Graha sun is giving miscarriage. But Kuja is exalted no. Child will be there. Do remedy madam. dont worry.[/quote]

I got a doubt beeja sputa lagna is for men, and for women it is Kshetra Sphuta, i have calculated my kshetra sphuta (11.34.20 moon + 10.32.14 mars + 09.37.21 jupiter) its total sum is 31 03 55. I think it is 31 degrees so it comes in vrishaba so its lord is venus.

Please tell whether it is correct or wrong.I forgot to ask you I am having jupiter (retrograde) with moon in lagna in D7 chart. and saturn in fifth house in D7 chart it is good or bad.

I started remedy for saturn and jupiter (hanuman chalisa and saibaba puja) and also santhana gopal mantra 108 times everyday.

[vikram_ultimate]

Hi Shrikanth sir,

I am able to see the following sphutas like Prana Sphuta,Chatussphita,Panchasphuta which is the one equivalent to Kshetra sphuta,,and if you could let me know when free whether blessings for children is there in my horoscope

16th April 1986
16:58
Chennai,Tamilnadu please.....

thanks a lot and regards
Vikram BS

[vikram_ultimate]

Thanks a lot for the reply....

[vasuumaprasad]

thank q very much for your reply

[vijayll]

[quote="Shrikanth"]Dear All,

With the recent birth of baby girl to Aishwarya Rai - I thought I should add a mention about this in this thread.

Based on the chart of Aishwarya Rai I have
Nov 1, 1973; 4:07:00a; Mangalore; India.
Rasi Lagna is 10 Vi 41

Coming to the D7 chart
Taurus Lagna with Mars and Merc in it.

So now counting in counter-clockwise (since Taurus is even) we reach Capricorn.
Saturn as the lord of Capricorn will signify the first child.
Saturn is placed in Leo - but Leo should have given a male child.
NOTE the exchange of signs between Sun (placed in Capricorn) and Saturn (in Leo).

So using the Point #8 of Exchange of planets - Sun placed in Capricorn as the dispositor of Capricorn gives the female child.

Shrikanth[/quote]

Shrikanthji
With reference to above quote there is one doubt in my mind. Because of exchange of planets Sun and Saturn (Parivartana), Saturn will be treated as in the fifth house (Capricorn). thus Pakesha is in Capricorn with Rahu. Thus this should give male child (because of Rahu) but directly sign Cp has been considered and it gave female. Kindly put some light on it to remove the doubt.
Thanks.
Vijay

[vijayll]

[quote="vijayll"][quote="Shrikanth"]Dear All,

With the recent birth of baby girl to Aishwarya Rai - I thought I should add a mention about this in this thread.

Based on the chart of Aishwarya Rai I have
Nov 1, 1973; 4:07:00a; Mangalore; India.
Rasi Lagna is 10 Vi 41

Coming to the D7 chart
Taurus Lagna with Mars and Merc in it.

So now counting in counter-clockwise (since Taurus is even) we reach Capricorn.
Saturn as the lord of Capricorn will signify the first child.
Saturn is placed in Leo - but Leo should have given a male child.
NOTE the exchange of signs between Sun (placed in Capricorn) and Saturn (in Leo).

So using the Point #8 of Exchange of planets - Sun placed in Capricorn as the dispositor of Capricorn gives the female child.

Shrikanth[/quote]

Shrikanthji
With reference to above quote there is one doubt in my mind. Because of exchange of planets Sun and Saturn (Parivartana), Saturn will be treated as in the fifth house (Capricorn). thus Pakesha is in Capricorn with Rahu. Thus this should give male child (because of Rahu) but directly sign Cp has been considered and it gave female. Kindly put some light on it to remove the doubt.
Thanks.
Vijay[/quote]

Dear Shrikanthji,
I came across the notes compiled by the students of PVR Narsimha Raoji's Boston class. As per the notes "if there is a Parivartana, then there is a change in the expected sex of the child".
Following this:
Based on the Aishwarya Rai's chart it was expected a boy but because of the Parivartana it is Girl.

If we follow the same principal for Prince William's Chart:
(In D7, I get different Lagna Sg hence considering the lagna you found) the Pakesha for the first child is Sun and placed in Cancer and expected a baby boy but because of Parivartana it should give baby girl.
Your comment will be appreciable.
Thanks
Vijay

[anxious2711]

Dear Shrikanth ji,

My D7 Lagna is Capricorn. So the 5th house anti clockwise would be Taurus (Guru is placed there). Lord of Taurus, Venus is placed in Leo in 8th house with Mercury and Rahu, and getting dhristi from Moon and Saturn.
Male factors are dominant, so should we conclude to a male?
And there are malefic influences, 8th house, rahu, shani's dhristi, can we predict any complications?

Thanks,

[anxious2711]

Thanks Shrikanth ji,

We come back to the same, Mercury is sitting with Venus and Rahu in 8th with Shani's 10th dhristi from 11th house and Moon and Ketu's aspect from 2nd house.
Male factors seem to be dominant (Mercury in Leo with Rahu), so should we conclude to a male? Female factors are Venus and Moon's dhristi.
And there are many malefic influences, 8th house, rahu, shani's dhristi, can we predict any complications?

Thanks,

[vikram_ultimate]

Hi Shrikanthji,

Can u please let me know regarding children in my horoscope.


April 16th 1986
16:58
Chennai,Tamilnadu

Vikram

[P. Dutta]

Hi Shrikanth ji/others,

Request you to analyze the prospect of children in following horoscope. How many children and when? Gender if possible. Will he enjoy happiness from children?

Some concerning points I noted:
1. Venus the 5L of Rashi chart (which is also the Pakesha of D7) is debilitated in D7; but Paka sign of D7 is occupied by exalted Moon. What result will it produce w.r.t children?
2. This Pakesha (Venus) is conjoint with Me, Ma & Ju in D7. What is the effect of crowding of 4 planets in one house in D7?
3. Rahu-Ketu are in 1/7 or 7/1 axis in D1, D7 & D9. Very rare occurrence. Won't it cause hurdle/hindrances from time-to-time in successful completion of an event?

Birth details: 21st Oct, 1981; 13:30 hrs; Kolkata.
Gender: Male

[anuradha]

Re: My daughter is expecting!!!
by Vaughn Paul » 271112

Dear All,
I think the issue here is whether an interpretation by an astrologer as to the gender of a fetus could lead to violence (the ideal being to live by ahimsa, non-violence). It certainly can, because every Indian probably knows that there is a bias toward male offspring and female fetuses and even female newborns are sometimes exterminated. It's a sad fact, and it's a social issue confined mostly to the Indian culture that I'm aware of. It's also become a legal issue now apparently. Being that most of our members on LOVA are Indian, I think we should start a policy that we no longer allow questions as to the gender of an unborn child. I'm probably at fault, if anyone's at fault, for not instigating this sooner on the forum.

We always have to keep in mind Desh (country), Kaal (time period), and Patra (personal background) of the native when talking about astrology, so say the classic texts. If I get asked this question by an Indian living in the India, I shouldn't give them the same response that I would to an American living in the US where there's no social issue about predicting the gender of a child. Of course, on this forum we usually don't know the country of the querist, but since we know that the majority are from India, we should have this policy. Vaughn Paul

Re: Reckoning Children from Saptamsa
by Shrikanth » 250313

Dear Vijay,

As the article indicates the conjunct planets associated with the Pakesha always rule higher than the sign in which the pakesha is placed.
So if Sun is the pakesha - Venus (conjunct planet) will give child.
next if Venus is pakesha - Sun (conjunct planet) will give child.

Shrikanth

Re: Reckoning Children from Saptamsa
by P. Dutta » 230313

Hi Shrikanth ji/others,

Request you to analyze the prospect of children in following horoscope. How many children and when? Gender if possible. Will he enjoy happiness from children?

Some concerning points I noted:
1. Venus the 5L of Rashi chart (which is also the Pakesha of D7) is debilitated in D7; but Paka sign of D7 is occupied by exalted Moon. What result will it produce w.r.t children?
2. This Pakesha (Venus) is conjoint with Me, Ma & Ju in D7. What is the effect of crowding of 4 planets in one house in D7?
3. Rahu-Ketu are in 1/7 or 7/1 axis in D1, D7 & D9. Very rare occurrence. Won't it cause hurdle/hindrances from time-to-time in successful completion of an event?

Birth details: 21st Oct, 1981; 13:30 hrs; Kolkata.
Gender: Male

[howzat]

dear srikanth

mine is

April 4 1971
02:58 AM
Bangalore

my daughter
November 07 2002
06:11
Dubai

you use for research ok. i am divorce now. so not seeing child only from starting. if you are nice persons means you share how i am getting daughter ok. ok bye.