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Let me continue from where I left off, We were discussing a horoscope where the Wife of the person died in a accident . The matter is sensitive , So its difficult to get a feed back so early . I will update this thread , when I get more information on the How and when of the event .

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2 october 1972
19 14
Panjim
Goa
Lagna is Mesha @ 2Deg 25
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I for the life of me , Could not figure out how this person could have met with such unfortunate fate . I have seen worse horoscopes with severe afflictions , But I have not seen , death of a spouse to date . Its simple amazing to see a Vipareeta Raja Yoga fail . A vipareeta Raja yoga is supposed to save you from precisely these kinds of situations . The 8th lord is in the 6th . That is a vipareeta Raja yoga . The 8th house is the "Mangalaya stana " . It is the significator for the Longavity of the marriage . So what happened here ??

A cursory glance does not reveal much . The 7th lord sits in the 5th . There is no affliction to the 7th lord . Marriage took place without a hitch . The 8th house lord is along with a exalted 3rd and 6th lord Budha and the 5th lord Ravi . Not bad when you consider that there are worse combinations around .

The navamsha too does not reveal any afflictions . So what went wrong /??
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After staring at the monitor for 2 hours and drawing a blank , I called Srinivas ji and handed over the case to him. As usual , I was dumb struck with what he came up with .

1. Both the 7th and the 8th house are inbetween Rahu and Kuja . I argued that Budha was ahead by Degree and the same was the case with Guru . He said that its immaterial .

2. The same case is repeated in the Navamsha . This time with Shani and Rahu .

3. This is a beauty ...... At the time of birth , when reckoned from the moon , There is a Vedha from Ketu on Kuja . Kuja is the 8th lord ( Mangalaya Stana ) while Ketu is the (Agatakaraka ) Kuja is now under the influence of Ketu .

4. from Kuja , who is in Uttara Phalguni to Ketu who is in Punarvasu , there are 23 Nakshatras . As per Gunjur Ramachandra Shastri Ji , if a planet if 23 Nakshatras away from another planet , If they happen to be a malefic , and in addition is causing a Vedha . Then there will be serious damage to the signification of the house ruled by the planets . The 23rd nakshatra is called a "Vinashka Nakshatra " . Vinasha means ( The destroyer ) . Once Kuja was under Ketu's power , Ketu finished the Mangalaya stana and rendered death to the spouse .
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This is how , some astrologers can come up with predictions with amazing accuracy based just on the D1 and the D9 . There are some secrets which they hold . There is no doubt about it . I have seen astrologers come up with predictions on the D1 alone . This is how they did it . I did not know about the 23rd nakshatra till date . This is one of the reasons i decided to put this piece on the forum . This is the kind of research that needs to be done . With wrong T.O.B.'s all we are left with are the D1 and a 50 pct accurate D9 . We have to play within this field , and this field alone . We need to dig deeper and deeper to get these secrets out .

For example , There is a totally different version of Gaja Kesari Yoga which I came across a few days back . Let me give you people the definition in the next thread .
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Check this out , Apparently , this is from a popular Tamil work called " Kumaaraswameeyam "

It says , The Moon must be waxing , and Guru must be in the 4th or 10th from the Moon and occupy only Taurus , Pisces, Aquarius and Sagittarius . Hence the yoga is defunct of Guru is in the other 8 signs and if the Moon is in krishna Paksha . Note , even Cancer , Guru's exaltation sign and Chandra's own house is exempted from this definition . It is important to note that the Author does not provide any examples to support his contention . However , every cat , mouse , and pigion has a Gajakesari yoga , if you go by the standard defination . Could it be the case that the sheer rarity of the above combination is indeed the true Gaja kesari yoga ??
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Along with Kuja , as a giant killer of love affairs , There is another killer on the lurk . This one is a silent and a deadly killer . The killer is Shani . Shani's aspect on the Moon in a Girl's chart . This combination is called a "Punarboo Dosha " . Robert Svoboda defines it thus " Punarboo, also spelt Punarbhu dosha indicates a association of the Moon with Saturn, either by conjunction or aspect. Punarbhu indicates a sudden out of the blue frequently inanticipated change of heart between two people planning to Marry. It is strong paticularly in the horosocope of women. The Native does a 180 deg turn for no valid reason.

Why I hold this Dosha as a important dosha , worthy of study , is that I know of a girl who did not turn up at the wedding and the wedding had to be cancelled. I also know of a girl who got married and filed for divorce the next day. All in a space of 17 hours. No body know's to this day why she wanted out. And this after having a 2 year relationship with the Man. This yoga is for real and I have seen it work with deadly results in many charts . I will provide a example in due course .
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A example of Punarboo Dosha

September 14th 1983
21 35
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Lagna is at 21 Deg 54 in Mesha .
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Girl joined a medical collage and fell in love with her class mate in the 1st year itself . The boy was from Mumbai and quite loaded and good looking . The girl was extremely possessive and would not let the boy mingle with any body . She however used to be up to no good every now and then . But never the less , was madly in love withthe boy .The boy swallowed everything she dished out because he was head over heels in love with her . 4 years past , both got a PG seat in Manipal . The affair continued . The talk of marriage came up , The parents got involved , things began to heat up . final year PG was at its fag end and the boys parents were insistent that the marriage take place as soon as they finished their PG. Several proposals wer put on hold by the boys family because of the boys situation . One fine day , the girl packed her bags and said good bye and good luck . That was the end of the story . The girl never gave a reason for the sudden U turn . No one know to date why she decided to break of the relationship and marriage .

Concentrate on the aspect of Shani on the Moon . Shani is exalted , being in the 7th house . Chandra the 4th lord is in the 9th . The boy came to me indesperation . He wanted some logic for her behaviour . I had just come across the Punarboo Dosha at that point of time . It was easy to see what had gone wrong in the girls head .
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Swamy cool ji , Note the placement of the Moon in Moola Nakshatra :)
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Dear Astroboy,

I hope u remember this horoscope.If this girl would nt have come in my life i would nt have met YOU. Moola Nakshatra girl. Punarbhu dosha present in rashi.

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We were not in talks since 2 years odd and suddenly she comes searchin for me we end up having a relationship which ended with some unknown reasons...

Cant stop Prarabhda....
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:) . See her Navamsha . It explains quite a lot of things . As far as P.Dosha goes , The dosha is very strong . Yes you are right, Moola Nakshatra is a tough Nakshatra to be in . No doubt about it .
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Astroboy,
from Kuja , who is in Uttara Phalguni to Ketu who is in Punarvasu , there are 23 Nakshatras . As per Gunjur Ramachandra Shastri Ji , if a planet if 23 Nakshatras away from another planet , If they happen to be a malefic , and in addition is causing a Vedha . Then there will be serious damage to the signification of the house ruled by the planets . The 23rd nakshatra is called a "Vinashka Nakshatra " . Vinasha means ( The destroyer ) . Once Kuja was under Ketu's power , Ketu finished the Mangalaya stana and rendered death to the spouse .
This is a totally new revelation! Lots of things fall into place now. Brilliant. You really should start translating all the Kannada material you and your guruji have gathered on the nakshatras. :D Otherwise they will remain hidden to non kannadigas.

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This is a interesting case where all the elements I was talking about , come together beautifully .

9th october 1985
10 .02 AM
Rewa
Lagna is in Scorpio @ 14.3 Deg
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Check this out , Apparently , this is from a popular Tamil work called " Kumaaraswameeyam "

It says , The Moon must be waxing , and Guru must be in the 4th or 10th from the Moon and occupy only Taurus , Pisces, Aquarius and Sagittarius . Hence the yoga is defunct of Guru is in the other 8 signs and if the Moon is in krishna Paksha . Note , even Cancer , Guru's exaltation sign and Chandra's own house is exempted from this definition . It is important to note that the Author does not provide any examples to support his contention . However , every cat , mouse , and pigion has a Gajakesari yoga , if you go by the standard defination . Could it be the case that the sheer rarity of the above combination is indeed the true Gaja kesari yoga ??
Please seek as many opinions as you can from other learned member's on the forum as I might be completely wrong
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As usual , the story goes like this .... You can actually make a movie out of this one . Girl loves boy , Boy loves girl , Both decide to marry , Boy goes to girls father , Father asks the boy to Take a flying .... . Girl decides that love is more important than anything else in the world , Decides to teach the father a lesson on the way , elopes with the boy ....... But not before emptying the fathers Kijori :) . Father gets up to find , the girl , money , and jewellery missing . Astala Vista . :D
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A classic recipe for a love marriage,


Guru afflicted by being Debilitated
7th lord Shukra in a Agni Rahi with a Agni tatwa Graha Kuja within 3 deg of each other
Ketu in the 12th . 12th lord Shukra with Kuja . :shock: 8)
Kuja sees the lagna
Always takes guts to do what this girl has done . See the 3rd house closely . Shani the 3rd lord is in the lagna aspecting his own house and aspected by the karaka of the 3rd house , Kuja.
Time is accurate . D9 is dependable . Kuja is in the lagna of D1 . Guru in the 7th is useless because he is debilitated in the D1 .
From chandra lagna of D1 , Guru in the 7th is debilitated
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astroboy wrote:Let me continue from where I left off, We were discussing a horoscope where the Wife of the person died in a accident . The matter is sensitive , So its difficult to get a feed back so early . I will update this thread , when I get more information on the How and when of the event .

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2 october 1972
19 14
Panjim
Goa
Lagna is Mesha @ 2Deg 25

Dear Astro Boy , with due permission from u , i would like to explain the death of lady ( wife ) in a slight different way. This is to the benefit of the members of this forum.

Let us analyse how the death occured to the natives wife in an accident while travelling in a bike driven by the native himself ?

First let us see whether the Lagna and Lagnadipathi is Shuddhi. Here Shuddhi means , there is no malefic sambandha ( Malefic aspects, malefic association, malefic Kranthi, Malefic Vedha, Papa graha madya and papa karthari. ) to Lagna and lagnadhipathi.

Mesha lagna is in between papa graha Shani and Rahu and aspected by Kuja from 6th.( Please note, Kuja is also the 8th lord and a natural malefic graha ) Therefore lagna is not shuddhi.

Secondly, lagnadhipathi Kuja is in 6th along with 6th lord Budha , who is extreem malefic to lagnadipathi kuja and also the owner of 2 dusthanas. Kuja is with ravi and is COMBUST. Therefore the lagnadhipathi is also not shuddhi.

Since Lagnadipathi is combust / dagda, the native is unable to experience the good phalas and his bhavishya is partially became combust like a withering / faded flower and has to undergo more difficulties in his life.

Let us understand the basic features of accident / apaghatha.

Accident houses are 3, 7, 9.
8th house --it gives accident
3rd house--small journey/travel
7th house --medium journey
9th house-- long journey.


To be continued-------
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If these houses are Agni Rashi and are aspected by agni tatwa grahas, then there will be a chance for fire accident or road accident

If these houses are Jala Rashi and aspected by Agni or Jala tatwa grahas ,then there will be a chance of death from drowning or death from consuming poison.

If these houses are Vayu tatwa rashi and are aspected by Agni or Vayu Tatwa rashi, then there will be a chance for Plane accident, falling from heights, explotion of Gas cylinders or death from smoke ( cannot breath).

If these houses are Pratwi tatwa Rashi and are aspected by powerful Vayu and Agni tatwa grahas, then there is a death from Hanging,Lightning, death from Natural Calamities.( Prakrathi Vikopa )

Let us understand which is Apaghatha/ Accident karaka grahas ?

Kuja , Ketu, Shani --apaghatha grahas ( accident )
Here Kuja is the no:1 graha for accidents.
From Kuja ---Bone fracture, excessive bleeding, some time instant death also.
From shani--- deformation of part of the body or loosing a part of the body permanently.
From Ketu---Unexpected accidental death, tragic accidents, extreem painful accidents.

Since Kuja is udvega karaka, sheegra kopi graha, ---- inflicting pain from accident by overspeed, driving the vehicle without proper control ie:- here and there, failing to gain control over the body. Therefore Kuja is considered as no: 1 graha for accident.

Now let us analyse the 7th ( wifes house ) house:-
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7th house from Lagna is Tula Rashi, Vivaha Sthana, Pathni Sthana.
Karaka is Shukra.

Sapthamadhipathi Shukra is is Agni Rashi and in agatha karaka Ketu nakshatra.Ketu is in 3rd house,
In one of the houses of Shukra , badakadipathi Shani is in vrashabha rashi,
7th house is in between Rahu and Kuja.
Therefore with this information we came to know that---- she may not enjoy the marital happiness or vivaha happiness for long time.

Rahu and Kuja are 2 sarpa grahas spitting its venom with each other, both to 7th and 8th houses. Other than this, Badakadhipathi Shani also sees 8th house.

Therefore, the 7th house, Karaka Shukra, and Saptamadhipathi Shukra, all 3 are NIRBALA ( Helpless)


Now let us analyse the Accident:-


To be continued----
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Hi,

I would like you all to also analyse my chart. My love affairs though very sincere from my side always dissipate into thin air...
initiallt the guy is very comitted n everything but they just finish out of the blue.....
is it because i am attracting guys who have this 'P' yog or wot...
I have been trying to look for a partner since last 3 years....my parent are trying to arrange my marriage...but nothing materializes...
i know i am manglik and ppl always tell me that i will get married after 28 but why this mean attitude and disappearing acts...
i have become so distraught n hopeless....that even if any guy comes i say no to him since i donot want to go thru the same hurt again.....
very tired of life.....my career n everything is ruined...

please analyse my chart n guide me too

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Pathni sthana is tula Rashi ( 7th from Lagna ). 3rd from Pathni sthana is Dhanu Rashi, agni rashi. This Dhanu rashi is aspected by agahath karaka , akaala marana karaka Ketu and accident karaka, apamrityu karaka Kuja.Both are agni tatwa grahas. Therefore this indicates death or accident which is equal to death.

Kuja indicates the agni pramaada or accident, Ketu indicates the death. Therefore we can say that--wife will have the apagath yoga in her jataka.

Whether the native had the fear of apaghatha ?: Yes, when Ketu is in 3rd ,fear of apaghata will always be there. Since Shani sees the 8th house, fear of gandanthara will always be there.

3rd from Pathni sthana is agni rashi. eventhough Guru is in his own rashi, he is helpless because of the association of Rahu. Please note that, whenever the Rahu or Ketu is placed in any rashi, they will make the rashyadipathi week. Rahu and Ketu are sucha powerful graha , they have one fist of bala more than any other grahas. They have the strength of swallowing the SUN.

Simple prediction as per K. P. system:-

If Ashstama Sookshmadipathi ( Sub-Lord)( here it is Rahu) is aspected by Ketu or Kuja , then there will be an accident.

Therfore when u see the jataka, u must go through the Vedha, Kranthi, Asthangatha etc. In case u have any doubt, u must place the jataka on the feet of Sri RajaRajeshwari, ask her what dosha is there in this jataka and chant 1008 gayithri japa. If u do that , u will be shown what and where is Karma Dosha, how it has come etc. After that, u should say the Shanthi Parihara.

This jyothisha is a Secrete Vidya. One should understand thoroughly and analyse slowly. It will bring name to Jyothisha as well as to u and our ancestors will be happy.

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In Continuation with:-

" Janana, Marana, Vivaha Daiva Niyamaka " =---said by Kalidasa.

Whatever he said , it has become TRUE. He was born from the Vara-Prasad of Jaganmatha Kali. His jyothisha Shastra is an unparalleled one and unthinkable.

I tried in a little way to analyse the Patni Viyoga (death) by the help of Uttara Kalamrita Grantha written by him. The credit should go to him and my Guru.


To be Continued----
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Guru ji , sorry to interupt , But I have to post this horoscope . Its some thing you would love to analyse in your free time . You must give me a medal for finding this horoscope .
February 5th 1954
23.56
Coonoor
Lagna is @ 14 50 in Tula
Navamsha lagna is Kumbha .
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Rest is explained beautifuly by Astroboy. Now u can find how important this Vedha is ? in analysing the horoscope.

Tips:- If Shukra in Bharani, Hubba(poorva Phalguni) and poorvashada

The native will come-up in his life from his own self efforts.He will get all the name and fame. Even if he gets the rich wife, he will have the pain in marital life.

The native will be attracted by others , he will have the attractive face . U can say one type of Daivika Shakthi. The draw back of this native is ---" He will keep the pain within himself by serving and doing good to others, he wont express his pain to others." This is the quality, Lakshana of this yoga.

If Shukra is in Ashwini nakshatra---Suffer from mantrik bhaada.
If in Bharani--Native will have Abhivraddhi, but opt for independent jeevana.
If in Makha--Too many problems in vivaha jeevana.
If in Hubba --Richness jeevana, but always unhappy in vivaha jeevana
If in uttara-1st pada--Adikar yuktha jeevana. Even if there is understanding between them, there will always be petty quarrels.
If in Moola --Ayomaya (eratic) jeevana, pain from the 3rd person, mental strain
If in Poorvashada---Gourava jeevana,but native will opt for frequent changes in life.
If in Uttarshada-1st pada----Top class jeevana , but frequent pain frim third person, difference of opinions within couples

There are many secrete things , i will try to bring it to u in near future.

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astroboy wrote:Guru ji , sorry to interupt , But I have to post this horoscope . Its some thing you would love to analyse in your free time . You must give me a medal for finding this horoscope .
February 5th 1954
23.56
Coonoor
Lagna is @ 14 50 in Tula
Navamsha lagna is Kumbha .
Dear Astroboy , i wonder, howcome u get these horoscopes . This is interesting , i will speak to u over the phone after 10 am.

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