Hi Nina
what if the malefic is debilitated. What about the aspect of a debilitated malefic?
Regards
definition of affliction?
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Milred,
A debilitated Malefic is a truly low life sort of being, when this thug is egged on by other Malefics ( By aspect or conjuction) he will display his destructive tendencies at all times. A debilitated Malefic has a low self esteem , lash out at everyone and any one and cause lots of trouble sometimes destroying in a matter of moments things which may have taken much time energy and care to build.
Here is a example, Lagna is Dhanu.
Native is a double graduate with a degree in Law. Married, Loaded, good looking, has everything going for her and at 33 Has the world at her feet. The trouble maker is Mr Kuja. He fires at all cylinders at all times. Kuja in Cancer aspects the Moon in Makara the 2nd house. Parashara was not kidding when he made the 2nd house ( Speech ) a Maraka House. She pretty much can destroy you with her acidic tongue. Its a different matter that she leaves me alone
. Her talk has left her with so many enemies that you need only one hand to count her friends. Kuja has let down the native badly, and no matter how hard she tries, she can never keep her mouth shut or her anger in check. Kuja's aspect on the Moon is not good in the least. There are days she just breaks down and cry's. No happiness from her child (Kuja is the 5th lord in the 8th). This is what A malefic can do when he decides to finish you.
I dont get a perverse pleasure by painting the dark traits of Malefics. Out of the 1.4 Billion people in India, 1 Billion are on @#$% street. Who do you think is responsible for their Misery ? Its the 5 bad boy's above. But we cannot blame them for being bad, we made them gives us bad because of our past Karma. They are just doing what is Natural to them. Simple as that.
Trust this help's
A debilitated Malefic is a truly low life sort of being, when this thug is egged on by other Malefics ( By aspect or conjuction) he will display his destructive tendencies at all times. A debilitated Malefic has a low self esteem , lash out at everyone and any one and cause lots of trouble sometimes destroying in a matter of moments things which may have taken much time energy and care to build.
Here is a example, Lagna is Dhanu.
Native is a double graduate with a degree in Law. Married, Loaded, good looking, has everything going for her and at 33 Has the world at her feet. The trouble maker is Mr Kuja. He fires at all cylinders at all times. Kuja in Cancer aspects the Moon in Makara the 2nd house. Parashara was not kidding when he made the 2nd house ( Speech ) a Maraka House. She pretty much can destroy you with her acidic tongue. Its a different matter that she leaves me alone
. Her talk has left her with so many enemies that you need only one hand to count her friends. Kuja has let down the native badly, and no matter how hard she tries, she can never keep her mouth shut or her anger in check. Kuja's aspect on the Moon is not good in the least. There are days she just breaks down and cry's. No happiness from her child (Kuja is the 5th lord in the 8th). This is what A malefic can do when he decides to finish you.I dont get a perverse pleasure by painting the dark traits of Malefics. Out of the 1.4 Billion people in India, 1 Billion are on @#$% street. Who do you think is responsible for their Misery ? Its the 5 bad boy's above. But we cannot blame them for being bad, we made them gives us bad because of our past Karma. They are just doing what is Natural to them. Simple as that.
Trust this help's
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Through hard work and spiritual practices, a person gets honor and dignity. The lazy one who puts in no efforts is like a fool who allows salt to be spilled on the wounds of his misfortunes. The idler depending only on fate, achieves nothing. - K.N.Rao ji
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milredr
ok buy ur point as far as a debilitated Malefic goes:). Tel me, what about debilitated and retrograde malefic?
A retrograde debilitated Malefic gains strength. Some schools of thought say that a Retrograde debilitated Malefic becomes like a exalted benefic. This is simply not true.They act Malefically as always but gain strength, and strengthen whatever they indicate by house ownership and by natural signification in the horoscope, be it good or bad.
Through hard work and spiritual practices, a person gets honor and dignity. The lazy one who puts in no efforts is like a fool who allows salt to be spilled on the wounds of his misfortunes. The idler depending only on fate, achieves nothing. - K.N.Rao ji
. No complaints though as I have to learn more from it.[quote="nina"]Hi Caliber,
How are you keeping?!
Note that Saturn is in the Nak. of Mars, Dhanista, a nak that is said to give many disagreements. And interesting enough, Saturn aspects the 2 Martian houses in your chart (1st & 8th) and where Mars is placed (5th). Mars is bound to feel irritated by this!![/quote]
Dear Nina, I am doing great and thanks for asking. Hope, you are also doing great.
I bought the house on Jan 22 and moved into it on Jan 30 during MA debilitation. I should have waited 2 more months for MA to come out of debilitation, but I took rash decision. I had some problems with the builder and still there are problems in the house.
As I told you last year, I did make good money and had 50% notional loss in Mutual Funds and they are nicely back though I still have about 15% loss, I am good.
Mutual aspects of SA-MA in a way gave me maturity too early in age and am 90% grey hair at 47. I am the eldest of 2 brothers and never had any romance in my life before marriage and hence no question of break. My wife is my cousin's daughter and she is Manglik too. Due to MA in 5H, my wife had first mis-carriage in 3rd month.
As you already know, after migrating to US, I never had good career and SA is my Badhak too and will be entering his MD in 2 years. I do not know how it will go. Even after 11 years in US, still waiting for green card (is the delay due to JU Retro?).
Hope all is well with you.
How are you keeping?!
Note that Saturn is in the Nak. of Mars, Dhanista, a nak that is said to give many disagreements. And interesting enough, Saturn aspects the 2 Martian houses in your chart (1st & 8th) and where Mars is placed (5th). Mars is bound to feel irritated by this!![/quote]
Dear Nina, I am doing great and thanks for asking. Hope, you are also doing great.
I bought the house on Jan 22 and moved into it on Jan 30 during MA debilitation. I should have waited 2 more months for MA to come out of debilitation, but I took rash decision. I had some problems with the builder and still there are problems in the house.
As I told you last year, I did make good money and had 50% notional loss in Mutual Funds and they are nicely back though I still have about 15% loss, I am good.
Mutual aspects of SA-MA in a way gave me maturity too early in age and am 90% grey hair at 47. I am the eldest of 2 brothers and never had any romance in my life before marriage and hence no question of break. My wife is my cousin's daughter and she is Manglik too. Due to MA in 5H, my wife had first mis-carriage in 3rd month.
As you already know, after migrating to US, I never had good career and SA is my Badhak too and will be entering his MD in 2 years. I do not know how it will go. Even after 11 years in US, still waiting for green card (is the delay due to JU Retro?).
Hope all is well with you.
God bless you.
Hello Nina, Very well explained but it leaves me a little disheartened for a personal reason...I myself dont propose analysing kids charts but heres is someone very dear to me ...most probably my heir as well.... He has 9L debilitated SU on nodal axis in 11H with debilitated VE in 10H. VE still exalted in Navmansha tho 8H but SU seems pretty damaged...nina wrote:
when you see a planet, as it is, you see its body. while its depositor is its soul. a planet may have an ugly/crooked body (debilitated) but a beautiful soul (well-placed dispositor) or the other way around: a planet may look beautiful (exalted) but has a mean, ugly soul (DB dispositor).
the worst case scenario is when a DB planet is supported by a DB dispositor then the said planet is really in trouble, tortured body & soul.
5H has Rahu aspected by debilitated SU ...
Hes not even 6 and I can already see a rebel ....Details. - 1st Nov 2004 ; 10:53 AM ; Bhopal (MP)
Worried about his education and life in general !!
- thanks for your time.
'वक्त से पहले और मुक़द्दर् से ज्यादा किसी को कुछ नहीं मिलता' - Neither before time nor beyond destiny, would you attain anything !
[quote="nina"]Hi Caliber,
I was very glad to read when you bought a house. I was reviewing your chart and all I could think of, as of recently, was in Ju/Ma/Mo and that was a small window: from 20th of Jan. '10 until 17th of Feb. '10. So I was glad to see it happened in this slot!!
Astrologically - Jupiter is in D4 lagna, so something important relating to home issues is to take place in Ju dasha. Mars is 4L sitting in 11H (own, Sc). The 11H indicates a process, a preparation, something that takes time & effort before maturation and a strive for perfection. And so you must have been choosy and weighing many factors for a long time before deciding. And so all this happening at the end of Ju dasha, the very last sub before Chidra dasha. Mars is karaka for property. Hence its importance - double here, as karaka & as D4 4L. In rasi Moon is 4L aspecting its own house from an angle. In D4 Moon is 7L in 4H - did your wife have something to do with your choice? Relating all three give us Ju/Ma/Mo. Ju in D4 can indicate luck in property. But Ju being also 3/12L an evil lord could indicate problems. At the time in transit Mars was in Ca 4H in rasi and 7H in D4 aspecting lagna.
About the mutual aspect of Sa & Ma in your chart, one big thing I left out is Mars being LL, the aspect of Sa has an impact on the personality, namely a touch of seriousness, maturity (the opposites of Ma) etc.
If you've been in the US for 11 years then you got there either in Ju/Ju or Ju/Sa. Ju is 9/12L in lagna and so promotes foreign connection. It is so that a R planet delays the results of its houses - maybe that's why you didn't get your green card yet. Since it's also in lagna in D4.
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Dear Nina,
Thanks a lot for your always clear explanation. You are so clear to the point.
Yes, it was my wife who pushed me to buy the house. Otherwise, I would not have bought till that time I save all the money required to buy without loan.
Your second para: You are 100% right on seriousness. Even if I get laugh, I will control not to laugh. All my relatives much elder to me respect me instead of treating me just like another younger relative. My mother used to tell every one that I got matured very early and I realize it now.
I came to US in JU-SA (Nov 2000). The delay in Green card is much painful. While I am waiting since 2002 filing, people that filed in 2006 got GC's as they filed in different states and also in different category.
I want to ask you and other learned members one question. Which is the planet that does not allow one to be in debt? Every Tuesday I do MARS (Kuja - my LL) and Subramanya Lord Ashottaram and in that I read he is Debt reliever. Is it MA being LL does not allow me to be in debts? First of all, I do not want to take loans right from my child hood, if I have to take loan, I do not get sleep till that time I pay it off. I am OK without food, but not OK with Debt.
Please elaborate on this debt free lord when you have time and feel like.
Once again thanks and may God bless you.
I was very glad to read when you bought a house. I was reviewing your chart and all I could think of, as of recently, was in Ju/Ma/Mo and that was a small window: from 20th of Jan. '10 until 17th of Feb. '10. So I was glad to see it happened in this slot!!
Astrologically - Jupiter is in D4 lagna, so something important relating to home issues is to take place in Ju dasha. Mars is 4L sitting in 11H (own, Sc). The 11H indicates a process, a preparation, something that takes time & effort before maturation and a strive for perfection. And so you must have been choosy and weighing many factors for a long time before deciding. And so all this happening at the end of Ju dasha, the very last sub before Chidra dasha. Mars is karaka for property. Hence its importance - double here, as karaka & as D4 4L. In rasi Moon is 4L aspecting its own house from an angle. In D4 Moon is 7L in 4H - did your wife have something to do with your choice? Relating all three give us Ju/Ma/Mo. Ju in D4 can indicate luck in property. But Ju being also 3/12L an evil lord could indicate problems. At the time in transit Mars was in Ca 4H in rasi and 7H in D4 aspecting lagna.
About the mutual aspect of Sa & Ma in your chart, one big thing I left out is Mars being LL, the aspect of Sa has an impact on the personality, namely a touch of seriousness, maturity (the opposites of Ma) etc.
If you've been in the US for 11 years then you got there either in Ju/Ju or Ju/Sa. Ju is 9/12L in lagna and so promotes foreign connection. It is so that a R planet delays the results of its houses - maybe that's why you didn't get your green card yet. Since it's also in lagna in D4.
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Dear Nina,
Thanks a lot for your always clear explanation. You are so clear to the point.
Yes, it was my wife who pushed me to buy the house. Otherwise, I would not have bought till that time I save all the money required to buy without loan.
Your second para: You are 100% right on seriousness. Even if I get laugh, I will control not to laugh. All my relatives much elder to me respect me instead of treating me just like another younger relative. My mother used to tell every one that I got matured very early and I realize it now.
I came to US in JU-SA (Nov 2000). The delay in Green card is much painful. While I am waiting since 2002 filing, people that filed in 2006 got GC's as they filed in different states and also in different category.
I want to ask you and other learned members one question. Which is the planet that does not allow one to be in debt? Every Tuesday I do MARS (Kuja - my LL) and Subramanya Lord Ashottaram and in that I read he is Debt reliever. Is it MA being LL does not allow me to be in debts? First of all, I do not want to take loans right from my child hood, if I have to take loan, I do not get sleep till that time I pay it off. I am OK without food, but not OK with Debt.
Please elaborate on this debt free lord when you have time and feel like.
Once again thanks and may God bless you.
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God bless you.
As usual...Great Analysis !! What worries me is Deb. SU lords the house of Luck.....also father as you mentioned. As of now I think he is very lucky ....he has well-to-do and loving parents and both maternal and paternal grand parents. His father though a strong martian but very mature, religious and loving person. What kind of difficulties you see relating to father ???nina wrote: Sinecurve,
what I said about DB planets was very general, no way specific. it is not always bad to have a DB planet, depending on its lordship, and it doesn't equate to doomed failure. on the other hand it's a planet that always calls the native for attention and that's why he/she can get to succeed with that planet. there are many ways to analyze the potentials of a planet (often contradictory ways) and while DB can be a drawback, that is just ONE side of the multi-layered storyjust go & check celebrities' charts and you will often see DB planets, same with beauty queens with DB Moon or Venus. Strange isn't it? so don't you go & worry!
your relative has 2 DB planets. But DB Venus in rasi is straight away strenghtened by Ju as natural benefic and Ju as trinal/angular lord and by Mars again as trinal/angular lord and its placement in 10H, a great house & an upachaya (or improvement house). See Venus in D9 it's exalted. Ve is a difficult planet for Sag lagna ruling 2 evil houses (6/11) and so it might be better to have it watered down. Venus here is a willful & competition-driven energy. But its debilitation removed the problems associated with its 6th lordship.
Also planets are well-placed in 10H the zenith in the sky and he has Venus,Mars and Jupiter there. It's not a bad combination. LL lord there is very-well placed. Hence his strong martian nature. Ra/Ke in Ar/Li are not a bad placement. Rahu is in a trine aspected by its lord and 2 trinal lords (Ma, 8th aspect and Sun 7th aspect). This Rahu has lots of potentials. Rahu in 5th is all about creativity and he will be creative. Rahu in Aries calls for developing martian qualities like a fighting nature, lots of stamina, independence etc - which you seem to say he's already displaying, but then he's in Rahu dasha. Sun's DB which is always a pity with a dharma lord, would show that he's d seek approval from his peers at the detriment of developing his power of discrimination. Sun DB and Su/Ke especially here since Su is also 9L would indicate difficulties in relating to the father - check D12 and the Sun is in 12H, hidden, mysterious (if the B.details are very accurate). Sun is doing better in D9 in an angle and exchanging with Swansa lord. Education could take him abroad with Me in 12H and Me in D24 in lagna in Cancer, a moveable sign. Except that Me dasha comes very late.
frankly I'd be more concerned with his love life with Mo as 8L in 7H in rasi and Ve in 8H in navamsa.
hope this helped.
I noticed the issues on his relationship part....well it is what it is !!
- thanks for your time.
'वक्त से पहले और मुक़द्दर् से ज्यादा किसी को कुछ नहीं मिलता' - Neither before time nor beyond destiny, would you attain anything !
This being the case why is an exception made for planets debilitated but in parivartana? Does it mean that downsides will be there initially but positives will gradually take over or does it mean that debilitation effects will not be shown (Mars in Cancer Moon in Scorpio).when you see a planet, as it is, you see its body. while its depositor is its soul. a planet may have an ugly/crooked body (debilitated) but a beautiful soul (well-placed dispositor) or the other way around: a planet may look beautiful (exalted) but has a mean, ugly soul (DB dispositor).
the worst case scenario is when a DB planet is supported by a DB dispositor then the said planet is really in trouble, tortured body & soul.
Hi Nina:
You said Dignity has a lot to do with producing results and that my sun is not good at that. However, my sun dasa was better than the present moon dasa or almost equal to my venus dasa or even better than that. It gave me promotion in my first attempt which I rightfully deserved and also gave me a house of my own(flat) which I had to sell in my moon dasa. This is just for discussion sake. May be the ista phala is higher for sun and also because it is closer to other planets in the chart, it gains strength. Your views?
Dev 1-2-62 2.30am New Delhi
You said Dignity has a lot to do with producing results and that my sun is not good at that. However, my sun dasa was better than the present moon dasa or almost equal to my venus dasa or even better than that. It gave me promotion in my first attempt which I rightfully deserved and also gave me a house of my own(flat) which I had to sell in my moon dasa. This is just for discussion sake. May be the ista phala is higher for sun and also because it is closer to other planets in the chart, it gains strength. Your views?
Dev 1-2-62 2.30am New Delhi
[quote="nina"]
Caliber,
I'm like you I don't like to be in debt at all and I'd rather go without than having a loan. I too have Saturn's close aspect to my lagna lord in rasi.
About residence, you said you moved to US in Ju/Sa in D4 Ju is 12L in lagna/Cap with Sa in 2nd/Aq. In Nov '00 looks like it was Ju/Sa/Ju. Both planets aspect the 4H in D4. It'll be interesting to know what happens in Sa/Ju! There could be a big move as Ju will be in 12 from dasha lord Saturn. Your residence/property will have a big impact on your wealth/duties/family in Sa dasha since Sa is D4 lagna lord sitting in 2H.
About the green card, I really don't know how it works, and I really don't understand that you could be in a foreign country for so long and get settled (I mean having property) and yet not having a green card! Isn't it what one needs in the US to get a job? Sorry for my ignorance, never been to the US.
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Dear Nina,
I will save THANKS word for you as I said too many times. Please give me your DOB if you do not mind or PM me.
I had best career during JU-SA (98-Nov 00). Many promotions in 2 years and too many Increments and too much Bonus which I never dreamt even. Hope SA-JU will be like that.
Good to know about Debt Karaka. Hope I would learn on that.
In US, most will be on their toes every day. They live 100 years, but with every day problems. The problems never end. There is a rumor that the Native Americans cursed the settlers as they were killed mercilessly. To buy a house, one does not need Green Card (GC). We have a visa called H1B and with that, you can do every thing that a US Citizen does, but one is always temporary till that time we get GC. can not change Jobs as we wish, always need to carry passport with us, but freedom is great as long as one follows the rules.
God bless you and your family.
Caliber,
I'm like you I don't like to be in debt at all and I'd rather go without than having a loan. I too have Saturn's close aspect to my lagna lord in rasi.
About residence, you said you moved to US in Ju/Sa in D4 Ju is 12L in lagna/Cap with Sa in 2nd/Aq. In Nov '00 looks like it was Ju/Sa/Ju. Both planets aspect the 4H in D4. It'll be interesting to know what happens in Sa/Ju! There could be a big move as Ju will be in 12 from dasha lord Saturn. Your residence/property will have a big impact on your wealth/duties/family in Sa dasha since Sa is D4 lagna lord sitting in 2H.
About the green card, I really don't know how it works, and I really don't understand that you could be in a foreign country for so long and get settled (I mean having property) and yet not having a green card! Isn't it what one needs in the US to get a job? Sorry for my ignorance, never been to the US.
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Dear Nina,
I will save THANKS word for you as I said too many times. Please give me your DOB if you do not mind or PM me.
I had best career during JU-SA (98-Nov 00). Many promotions in 2 years and too many Increments and too much Bonus which I never dreamt even. Hope SA-JU will be like that.
Good to know about Debt Karaka. Hope I would learn on that.
In US, most will be on their toes every day. They live 100 years, but with every day problems. The problems never end. There is a rumor that the Native Americans cursed the settlers as they were killed mercilessly. To buy a house, one does not need Green Card (GC). We have a visa called H1B and with that, you can do every thing that a US Citizen does, but one is always temporary till that time we get GC. can not change Jobs as we wish, always need to carry passport with us, but freedom is great as long as one follows the rules.
God bless you and your family.
God bless you.
Dear Nina, Looks like your Inbox is full. My message is not going for the past 30 mins.
I do not know which is D2. You mean D2 is Wealth chart (Hora)? I get cancer as Asc with most planets in it and VE/MA/SA/RA/KE in 2H(LE).
I do not know which is D2. You mean D2 is Wealth chart (Hora)? I get cancer as Asc with most planets in it and VE/MA/SA/RA/KE in 2H(LE).
God bless you.
Hi Nina:
You said Dignity has a lot to do with producing results.
You said, dignity of sun is not good for me.
Then you said, Dignity is a lot of things, it is not just placement.
Clubbing all three above, and the fact than sun dasa game me my own house, promotion, happiness at work place etc, its dignity should have been good, is it not?
Dev
You said Dignity has a lot to do with producing results.
You said, dignity of sun is not good for me.
Then you said, Dignity is a lot of things, it is not just placement.
Clubbing all three above, and the fact than sun dasa game me my own house, promotion, happiness at work place etc, its dignity should have been good, is it not?
Dev
Hello Nina, Sorry for the late reply but I m traveling so less access to net these days. As of now I m with Astroboy at his place.nina wrote:Sinecurve,
Your relative has Su/Ke conj which indicates a feeling of rejection from the father to the child; that's how the child feels. And Sun is weakened being DB. This is doubly significant since Sun is karaka for father and 9L in this chart. The 11H position is not so bad, but it requires effort. To get a better relationship, he will have to work at it. In D12 Sun is exalted and in 12H, the 12 is a hidden house, so in the child's life there would be aspects of his father's life or personality that he feels he doesn't know about.
My opinion here is not to tell these things to the parents as it's likely to affect the relationship to their child, but rather observe.
I hope for the best for the father-son and I agree with you to just observe.
- thanks a lot for your reply.
'वक्त से पहले और मुक़द्दर् से ज्यादा किसी को कुछ नहीं मिलता' - Neither before time nor beyond destiny, would you attain anything !
What does it mean by Saturn afflicted on Rahu Kethu axis? Sample chart
As 26:38 Sc Jyeshtha Me
Su 16:44 Cn Aslesha Me
Mo 13:45 Pi U.Bhadra Sa
Ma 03:32 Ta Krittika Su
Me 03:31 Cn Pushya Sa
JuR 15:59 Sc Anuradha Sa
VeR 08:07 Le Magha Ke
Sa 02:13 Le Magha Ke
Ra 13:18 Aq Shatbisha Ra
Ke 13:18 Le Magha Ke
Is Saturn the 4th Lord in 10th with Kethu & Venus(R) afflicted?
What does it mean; planets afflicted on Rahu Kethu axis?
As 26:38 Sc Jyeshtha Me
Su 16:44 Cn Aslesha Me
Mo 13:45 Pi U.Bhadra Sa
Ma 03:32 Ta Krittika Su
Me 03:31 Cn Pushya Sa
JuR 15:59 Sc Anuradha Sa
VeR 08:07 Le Magha Ke
Sa 02:13 Le Magha Ke
Ra 13:18 Aq Shatbisha Ra
Ke 13:18 Le Magha Ke
Is Saturn the 4th Lord in 10th with Kethu & Venus(R) afflicted?
What does it mean; planets afflicted on Rahu Kethu axis?
Hi all:
This is the horoscope of a person who is in some trouble.
17-6-1967 Chennai 2.48am
What sort of afflictions can be seen here?
I see mars, moon aspected by sat and in navamsha, moon with rahu.
There are no benefic aspects. So what would be the effects?
Dev
This is the horoscope of a person who is in some trouble.
17-6-1967 Chennai 2.48am
What sort of afflictions can be seen here?
I see mars, moon aspected by sat and in navamsha, moon with rahu.
There are no benefic aspects. So what would be the effects?
Dev
champeya wrote:What does it mean by Saturn afflicted on Rahu Kethu axis? Sample chart
As 26:38 Sc Jyeshtha Me
Su 16:44 Cn Aslesha Me
Mo 13:45 Pi U.Bhadra Sa
Ma 03:32 Ta Krittika Su
Me 03:31 Cn Pushya Sa
JuR 15:59 Sc Anuradha Sa
VeR 08:07 Le Magha Ke
Sa 02:13 Le Magha Ke
Ra 13:18 Aq Shatbisha Ra
Ke 13:18 Le Magha Ke
Is Saturn the 4th Lord in 10th with Kethu & Venus(R) afflicted?
What does it mean; planets afflicted on Rahu Kethu axis?
Can anyone explain about this one?
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Devji,Dev wrote:Hi all:
This is the horoscope of a person who is in some trouble.
17-6-1967 Chennai 2.48am
What sort of afflictions can be seen here?
I see mars, moon aspected by sat and in navamsha, moon with rahu.
There are no benefic aspects. So what would be the effects?
Dev
Its the Don. Bade Miyan. Big Boss. Lord Shani. Badhkesh for Aries. Staying at rent in house of Mandi, which also happens to be the 12th & landlord of the house which is tenanted by Gulika.. The native is running Saturn MD. And Sade Sati. Point, Game, Set, match, Lord Shani.
Possible impacts:
Health:
1.Abdominal area - surgery possible, as Mars is also placed in this house.
2. Depression / loneliness
Others:
1. Impact to family / wealth, as Sani now casts aspect on 2nd house
2. Impact to dharma / luck / father - strange bad things can happen. No explanations. Except Lord Sani handing out his justice for past karma.
3. Sat's AV strength in Libra is Zero. Ketu positioned there in Rahu's Nk. Who is Rahu? Kujavat Ketu, Shanivat Rahu. Rahu is Shani's proxy. If he is married, then this person's marriage could also be on rocks when Sani moves into the Libra apartment year end.
Scary. But Lord Shani can do all this easily. What has he done so far?
--भज गोविन्दं... भज गोविन्दं...गोविन्दं भज, मूढमते --
With Regards,
ChandraLagna
With Regards,
ChandraLagna
Hi Arun:
Thanks for the exhaustive analysis.
It is quite scary but then I thought that exalted jupiter would take care of everything since he is the 9th lord exalted. But of course I dont know the effects of jupiter the 9th lord afflicted with 2nd and 7th lord sukra, sun the 5th lord afflicted by 3rd and 6th lord budha, moon the 4th lord afflicted by saturn aspect and in conjuntion with lagna and 8th lord mars, lagna having rahu and sat aspecting 2nd house.
He is related to me but I donot know much on date but I can say a few things emphatically.
Depression/loneliness is perfect, he definitely has it in its extreme.
Sani in natal is aspecting 2nd house but not as per gochara now, so will it still have impact on the family?
Father is a highly religious person and extreme believer of God, so is the mother. They do puja and they are extremely honest people doing all good things. The father is nearing 80, somewhat weak but has strong determination and will power and has run to US to visit his son. He is so overconfident and always believes God is his protector, friend, guru and all that. He loves God first, then his own father and then his elder son who is the owner of the horoscope. The mother is a very innocent lady and so harmless a lady that noone on earth can dislike her.
He(owner of the horoscope) is married with two kids and he has not been happy I know. There have been lot of problems in the married life but i only hoped for the sake of the children they stay together. He had a son and then a daughter.
I dont know what has happened so far. I am scared. I only hope his father lives long and has no problem there. I know that he(son) is in extreme depression and does not attend even to phone calls from relatives, says hello and disconnects the phone.
Pl tell me if exalted guru cannot take care of the person since he is also the 9th lord?
Dev
Thanks for the exhaustive analysis.
It is quite scary but then I thought that exalted jupiter would take care of everything since he is the 9th lord exalted. But of course I dont know the effects of jupiter the 9th lord afflicted with 2nd and 7th lord sukra, sun the 5th lord afflicted by 3rd and 6th lord budha, moon the 4th lord afflicted by saturn aspect and in conjuntion with lagna and 8th lord mars, lagna having rahu and sat aspecting 2nd house.
He is related to me but I donot know much on date but I can say a few things emphatically.
Depression/loneliness is perfect, he definitely has it in its extreme.
Sani in natal is aspecting 2nd house but not as per gochara now, so will it still have impact on the family?
Father is a highly religious person and extreme believer of God, so is the mother. They do puja and they are extremely honest people doing all good things. The father is nearing 80, somewhat weak but has strong determination and will power and has run to US to visit his son. He is so overconfident and always believes God is his protector, friend, guru and all that. He loves God first, then his own father and then his elder son who is the owner of the horoscope. The mother is a very innocent lady and so harmless a lady that noone on earth can dislike her.
He(owner of the horoscope) is married with two kids and he has not been happy I know. There have been lot of problems in the married life but i only hoped for the sake of the children they stay together. He had a son and then a daughter.
I dont know what has happened so far. I am scared. I only hope his father lives long and has no problem there. I know that he(son) is in extreme depression and does not attend even to phone calls from relatives, says hello and disconnects the phone.
Pl tell me if exalted guru cannot take care of the person since he is also the 9th lord?
Dev
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