Hello Everyone...
If We observe, after 20th july there was heavy rainfall in India, Pakistan, China, Parts of Europe and other countries as well and we saw floods occuring in most of these places.. People had no place to live and food scarcity was also found in many areas. In Pakistan, the flood has been the most severe with crops worth $2.9 billion being destroyed. Also, in Russia, Severe heat wave has destroyed the wheat crop.People are fleeing here and there.
On 20th July,2010, Mars entered the sign of virgo... In Virgo, Saturn was already present.. Now saturn and mars who are big enemies, bring destruction and devastation whenever they conjunct/aspect each other or one aspects the other. that is Severe weather conditions when in Earth or Water signs and Wars when in Fire or Air signs. Saturn and Mars conjuncting in Virgo, brought devastation in many places by causing heat wave(Russia) and floods in the other parts mentioned above. Adding to this, Jupiter was aspecting both of them directly from Pisces but on 23rd july, Jupiter turned retrograde which added to the flow of water as Jupiter aspects the Earthly Virgo sign from the Watery Pisces.In addition Venus, moved into Virgo on 1st August, where its debilitated casuing more problem.
Today ,15th August, Mars is at 16 Degrees in Virgo and Saturn is At 8 Degrees.. I feel the intesity if devastation will start redicuing when mars will be 15 degrees away from Saturn ie. 29th July( Saturn will be at 9 deg and Mars at 25), and the floods will stop occuring after September 6 when mars changes to libra bringing situation totally under control. The heat wave in Russia should also stop by the same time. Till then we will experiance extreme weather conditions in many parts of the globe.
War References in relation To Mars/Saturn
World war 1 started on 28th july,1914..
Saturn in Gemini Aspecting Mars in Leo
World War 2 started on 1st September 1939
Saturn in Aries and Mars in Capricon mutually aspecting each other
Last year when Saturn moved into Virgo on 9th Sept, Mars was in Gemini and both were mutually aspecting each other till 5th Oct. If we try to remember, we will notice that there was severe floods in many parts of the world and very severe flood in Karnataka where conditions were very extreme. Floods stopped after 5th October when Mars Moved into Cancer.
I would like all of you to share your views regarding this.
Regards
Vivek
FLOODS ALL OVER THE WORLD..WHAT IS THE REASON?
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Khoo Hock Leong
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Hi Vivek
The sensitive points to where Rahu are usually denote catastrophes. It is usually the 4th and the 8th to Rahu - the first showing vicissitudes and the second something untreatable and malignant.
Although you mentioned that Air and Fire signs signify war and Water and Earth signs signify force majeur, another way of looking at things is that Water signs signify Moksha and hence force majeur - due to nature beyond our control, Earth signs because they denote the economy (2nd, 6th and 10th houses) will signify war - war as a means to expand one's power including economic and political power. Fire signs, however, do signify war denoting fire and seeking one’s own dharma regardless of consequences.
Currently - 4th to Rahu is Jupiter in Pisces sign denoting floods. 8th to Rahu is where the Sun is denoting heat wave. Both Sun and Jupiter are in water signs. The Moon dispositing the Sun shows the heat wave caused crop damages - Virgo is 5th to Taurus denoting future food.
2nd World War - 4th to Rahu is Mars (signifying war) in Capricorn (signifying authority). Saturn was in Aries a fire sign. 8th to Rahu is Taurus signifying the economy in general. Venus was with Sun in Leo - World War 2 was a war of blitzkrieg. The war was a result of Hitler's need for power (Capricorn) and as a result shattered the world's economy in general through intense fire power.
1st World War – 4th to Rahu is Taurus again signifying world economy is affected. Venus was again in Leo with Mars and Ketu. 8th to Rahu is the Moon in Virgo. Mercury was in Gemini with Saturn. The war was a result of some petty differences amongst the Balkan countries (the sign Virgo was involved). Moon’s involvement means the war was more of a wait and see kind of attitude along the Maginot Line (in France or Belgium?). Mercury in the Air sign means the war was not taken seriously by most people but together with Saturn it shows that there was no compromise on either side resulting in the dragging of the war for some years. Venus with Mars and Ketu shows that the war did shatter the economy because of people’s hostility towards each other and unable to build the economy together – either as a group in the nation or amongst nations. That is why the League of Nations was formed.
Mars and Saturn moving in and out of signs do terminate and start actual conditions and situations but Rahu must give the framework first.
Regards
Hock Leong
The sensitive points to where Rahu are usually denote catastrophes. It is usually the 4th and the 8th to Rahu - the first showing vicissitudes and the second something untreatable and malignant.
Although you mentioned that Air and Fire signs signify war and Water and Earth signs signify force majeur, another way of looking at things is that Water signs signify Moksha and hence force majeur - due to nature beyond our control, Earth signs because they denote the economy (2nd, 6th and 10th houses) will signify war - war as a means to expand one's power including economic and political power. Fire signs, however, do signify war denoting fire and seeking one’s own dharma regardless of consequences.
Currently - 4th to Rahu is Jupiter in Pisces sign denoting floods. 8th to Rahu is where the Sun is denoting heat wave. Both Sun and Jupiter are in water signs. The Moon dispositing the Sun shows the heat wave caused crop damages - Virgo is 5th to Taurus denoting future food.
2nd World War - 4th to Rahu is Mars (signifying war) in Capricorn (signifying authority). Saturn was in Aries a fire sign. 8th to Rahu is Taurus signifying the economy in general. Venus was with Sun in Leo - World War 2 was a war of blitzkrieg. The war was a result of Hitler's need for power (Capricorn) and as a result shattered the world's economy in general through intense fire power.
1st World War – 4th to Rahu is Taurus again signifying world economy is affected. Venus was again in Leo with Mars and Ketu. 8th to Rahu is the Moon in Virgo. Mercury was in Gemini with Saturn. The war was a result of some petty differences amongst the Balkan countries (the sign Virgo was involved). Moon’s involvement means the war was more of a wait and see kind of attitude along the Maginot Line (in France or Belgium?). Mercury in the Air sign means the war was not taken seriously by most people but together with Saturn it shows that there was no compromise on either side resulting in the dragging of the war for some years. Venus with Mars and Ketu shows that the war did shatter the economy because of people’s hostility towards each other and unable to build the economy together – either as a group in the nation or amongst nations. That is why the League of Nations was formed.
Mars and Saturn moving in and out of signs do terminate and start actual conditions and situations but Rahu must give the framework first.
Regards
Hock Leong
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Khoo Hock Leong
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Hi Vivek
I just found out from the latest edition of Saptarishis Magazine, that an approximate mundane chart can be erected for the year 2010-2011 called the Vedic yearly chart to predict the yearly outcome of events related to the affairs of state of any particular city or country and includes such things as the disposition of heads of state, the economy, education, employment, foreign affairs, geological phenomena, and weather patterns. The chart is calculated for the exact
time of the New Moon in sidereal Pisces that occurs between March 15th and April 15th (dates will vary slightly depending on the ayanamsa used).
You may want to cast this chart to have a look.
As for the reason for its validity, you would have tor read the article to gain a fuller understanding.
Regards
Hock Leong
I just found out from the latest edition of Saptarishis Magazine, that an approximate mundane chart can be erected for the year 2010-2011 called the Vedic yearly chart to predict the yearly outcome of events related to the affairs of state of any particular city or country and includes such things as the disposition of heads of state, the economy, education, employment, foreign affairs, geological phenomena, and weather patterns. The chart is calculated for the exact
time of the New Moon in sidereal Pisces that occurs between March 15th and April 15th (dates will vary slightly depending on the ayanamsa used).
You may want to cast this chart to have a look.
As for the reason for its validity, you would have tor read the article to gain a fuller understanding.
Regards
Hock Leong
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Hi Vivek
Another way to look at the events unfolding is the conjunction of Jupiter and Saturn in the 20th century and the year 2000/
The following article section is taken from Gordon Brennan from the British Assoication of Vedic Astrology.
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The time taken for one cycle of twelve signs is a little less than 3000 years. This consists of 3 cycles of about 900 years each. Each 200-250 years a new Jupiter-Saturn cycle will begin, starting with one of the twelve signs of the zodiac. The periods of Sandhi or conjunctions moving from one element to another within these ages are periods of major changes in human society. The periods when the conjunctions are repeating in the signs of a single element likewise are times of more stability. The periods of gradual change take many years.
The current change from Fire to Earth element started in 1921 with a Saturn/Jupiter conjunction at the beginning of Virgo.
But then it reverted in 1940 to a triple conjunction in fiery Aries, energising the warring tendencies of that era. After that the conjunctions began again in the early parts of the Earth signs, but in 2000 a final fire sign conjunction happened, again in Aries at 28 degrees 51 minutes, as shown below.
The chart for 2000 (28/5/2000 at 17.08 BST or 18.08 GMT) has a powerful Kala Sarpa Yoga (all of the planets moving towards Rahu and following Ketu, leaving half of the chart unoccupied: a very unbalanced situation). Not only is the fire energy of the conjunction increased in the Navamsa, but also the Sun, Rahu and Ketu are all Vargottama.
Rahu has been in Cancer in several significant 20th century solar eclipses and Rahu Mars in Leo in the Navamsha indicates explosive events to come. Note also that Rahu and Mars are in Nakshatra Sandhi positions – on the borders of Nakshatras, which makes their combination in the Navamsa chart – both at the precise division of Cancer and Leo – very powerful indeed.
This chart will have a considerable effect. It is a very powerful fire conjunction at the very end of the fire cycle. Great upheaval took place after the 1940 conjunction, so we can expect another such upheaval – but of a quite different manifestation due to the different positions of all of the planets and the fact that we have moved further into the earth cycle.
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It means that for 1st World War and the 2nd World War, the conjunctions of Jupiter and Saturn happened in fire signs. Although World War II started in September 1939 due to the Jupiter Saturn conjunction in 1921 but it was at the waning phase. The next conjunction that took place in June 1940 accelerated the intensity and quickening pace of 2nd World War. When Germany invaded Poland everything was then quiet followed by some overruns in the next couple of months to various countries by Germany including their. When the conjunction took place in 1940, the full fledge World War II began. I think the bombing of Britain started somewhere near during this time of the conjunction. The Eastern Front War with Russia and the balkan countries started in 1941 and bombing of Peral Harbour in Japan was in December 1941.
Then in the 1961-2000 we enjoyed peace with Jupiter-Saturn conjunctions occurring in Earth Signs. The last fire conjunction in 2000 will herald the coming of war before the decade of 2010-2020 ends.
Thus we see Jupiter-Saturn conjunction as a bigger framework above that of Rahu which defines the overall framework of the positions of Mars and Saturn. There are many levels of analysis when it comes to Mundane Astrology.
Regards
Hock Leong
Another way to look at the events unfolding is the conjunction of Jupiter and Saturn in the 20th century and the year 2000/
The following article section is taken from Gordon Brennan from the British Assoication of Vedic Astrology.
[quote]
The time taken for one cycle of twelve signs is a little less than 3000 years. This consists of 3 cycles of about 900 years each. Each 200-250 years a new Jupiter-Saturn cycle will begin, starting with one of the twelve signs of the zodiac. The periods of Sandhi or conjunctions moving from one element to another within these ages are periods of major changes in human society. The periods when the conjunctions are repeating in the signs of a single element likewise are times of more stability. The periods of gradual change take many years.
The current change from Fire to Earth element started in 1921 with a Saturn/Jupiter conjunction at the beginning of Virgo.
But then it reverted in 1940 to a triple conjunction in fiery Aries, energising the warring tendencies of that era. After that the conjunctions began again in the early parts of the Earth signs, but in 2000 a final fire sign conjunction happened, again in Aries at 28 degrees 51 minutes, as shown below.
The chart for 2000 (28/5/2000 at 17.08 BST or 18.08 GMT) has a powerful Kala Sarpa Yoga (all of the planets moving towards Rahu and following Ketu, leaving half of the chart unoccupied: a very unbalanced situation). Not only is the fire energy of the conjunction increased in the Navamsa, but also the Sun, Rahu and Ketu are all Vargottama.
Rahu has been in Cancer in several significant 20th century solar eclipses and Rahu Mars in Leo in the Navamsha indicates explosive events to come. Note also that Rahu and Mars are in Nakshatra Sandhi positions – on the borders of Nakshatras, which makes their combination in the Navamsa chart – both at the precise division of Cancer and Leo – very powerful indeed.
This chart will have a considerable effect. It is a very powerful fire conjunction at the very end of the fire cycle. Great upheaval took place after the 1940 conjunction, so we can expect another such upheaval – but of a quite different manifestation due to the different positions of all of the planets and the fact that we have moved further into the earth cycle.
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It means that for 1st World War and the 2nd World War, the conjunctions of Jupiter and Saturn happened in fire signs. Although World War II started in September 1939 due to the Jupiter Saturn conjunction in 1921 but it was at the waning phase. The next conjunction that took place in June 1940 accelerated the intensity and quickening pace of 2nd World War. When Germany invaded Poland everything was then quiet followed by some overruns in the next couple of months to various countries by Germany including their. When the conjunction took place in 1940, the full fledge World War II began. I think the bombing of Britain started somewhere near during this time of the conjunction. The Eastern Front War with Russia and the balkan countries started in 1941 and bombing of Peral Harbour in Japan was in December 1941.
Then in the 1961-2000 we enjoyed peace with Jupiter-Saturn conjunctions occurring in Earth Signs. The last fire conjunction in 2000 will herald the coming of war before the decade of 2010-2020 ends.
Thus we see Jupiter-Saturn conjunction as a bigger framework above that of Rahu which defines the overall framework of the positions of Mars and Saturn. There are many levels of analysis when it comes to Mundane Astrology.
Regards
Hock Leong
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hey khoo hock leong...
wow...ur reasearch is absolutely amazing...i found rahu involved the way u said in many diff cases too....
Mundane astrology is extremely deep because there is the same planetary position/combination for the whole world ....however a general trend can be predicted like mars-saturn -rahu's position affected the weather everywhere on earth.... most places are having floods whereas russia is having severe heat wave and forests r still burning...
For wars, the combination of planets shud be in fire signs that is aries, leo, saggitarius and sign of mars that is scorpio as mars is a general significator of army/battle/muscles..however for wars, sun must be involved too as sun represents the govt and without the govt declaring a war, the war cannot happen.. Rahu is involved as rahu sows the seeds of war into a person's brain and ketu will sow the seeds of hatred...
regards
vivek
wow...ur reasearch is absolutely amazing...i found rahu involved the way u said in many diff cases too....
Mundane astrology is extremely deep because there is the same planetary position/combination for the whole world ....however a general trend can be predicted like mars-saturn -rahu's position affected the weather everywhere on earth.... most places are having floods whereas russia is having severe heat wave and forests r still burning...
For wars, the combination of planets shud be in fire signs that is aries, leo, saggitarius and sign of mars that is scorpio as mars is a general significator of army/battle/muscles..however for wars, sun must be involved too as sun represents the govt and without the govt declaring a war, the war cannot happen.. Rahu is involved as rahu sows the seeds of war into a person's brain and ketu will sow the seeds of hatred...
regards
vivek
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Hi Vivek
The annual chart for the Hindu year I have read another article which gives a lucid account how to fine tune the chart.
(1) Take the exact date and time when Sun conjuncts Moon in Pisces in the month of Chaitra.
(2) The Hindi new year starts 1 day after.
(3) Note the weekday of that day. If it is before sunrise, then take the weekday as 1 day before.
The lord of the weekday for the new Hindi Year would be the King for that year. So if it is Jupiter or Venus the harvest would be better, malefics harvest would be worse etc. But notwithstanding benefic or malefic, one has to observe the aspects - both Graha and Dristi - as well as conjunctions, sign placement of the lord of the weekday etc.
Note that because of different time zones, different countries may have different Kings for the year.
In the case of Singapore, the Hindi new year starts at :
March 17th 2010
4 hours 31 minutes 44 seconds
GMT Singapore 8 hours East
Latitude 1 degree 16 minutes North
Longtitude 103 degrees 51 minutes east.
Read the chart with Pisces as Ascendant.
The Moon is there with the Sun, Venus and Mercury in Pisces. Venus is in exalation.
But note the Rasi Distri by Saturn, Rahu and Ketu - all in common signs. Quite a difficult year. On top of that the cluster of Pisces planets is placed 4th to Rahu. We experienced a number of floods at Orchard Area (our shopping district) quite a number of times - something which never happened in Singapore.
For India, the start of the new year chart, the timing details would have to be slightly modified as per the above procedure.
Regards
Hock Leong
The annual chart for the Hindu year I have read another article which gives a lucid account how to fine tune the chart.
(1) Take the exact date and time when Sun conjuncts Moon in Pisces in the month of Chaitra.
(2) The Hindi new year starts 1 day after.
(3) Note the weekday of that day. If it is before sunrise, then take the weekday as 1 day before.
The lord of the weekday for the new Hindi Year would be the King for that year. So if it is Jupiter or Venus the harvest would be better, malefics harvest would be worse etc. But notwithstanding benefic or malefic, one has to observe the aspects - both Graha and Dristi - as well as conjunctions, sign placement of the lord of the weekday etc.
Note that because of different time zones, different countries may have different Kings for the year.
In the case of Singapore, the Hindi new year starts at :
March 17th 2010
4 hours 31 minutes 44 seconds
GMT Singapore 8 hours East
Latitude 1 degree 16 minutes North
Longtitude 103 degrees 51 minutes east.
Read the chart with Pisces as Ascendant.
The Moon is there with the Sun, Venus and Mercury in Pisces. Venus is in exalation.
But note the Rasi Distri by Saturn, Rahu and Ketu - all in common signs. Quite a difficult year. On top of that the cluster of Pisces planets is placed 4th to Rahu. We experienced a number of floods at Orchard Area (our shopping district) quite a number of times - something which never happened in Singapore.
For India, the start of the new year chart, the timing details would have to be slightly modified as per the above procedure.
Regards
Hock Leong
I remember reading somewhere that the general results for Sa in Virgo indicates floods overflowing rivers and related results.
Since this is a 30 year cycle, we can perhaps verify this. I personally remember that 1979-80 was also a period of deluge.
Since this is a 30 year cycle, we can perhaps verify this. I personally remember that 1979-80 was also a period of deluge.
LOVACRS
Hi Rajitha,
Nice to know you are a kannadiga too. I think "iota" matches reasonably well with "lavalesha".
You should hear the full keerthane when you find time and go thru the simple yet profound lyrics.
Meaning of-course is more or less the same as in Basab's signature
For the benefit of non-kannadigas, Sri Purandara Dasa was a saint poet of 16th century who endeared
himself to the masses by delivering profound philosophy in very simple poetic form intelligible to
even the uneducated. Let me attempt a translation of the signature :
"God's will prevails. Not even an iota of man's will shall prevail"
Nice to know you are a kannadiga too. I think "iota" matches reasonably well with "lavalesha".
You should hear the full keerthane when you find time and go thru the simple yet profound lyrics.
Meaning of-course is more or less the same as in Basab's signature
For the benefit of non-kannadigas, Sri Purandara Dasa was a saint poet of 16th century who endeared
himself to the masses by delivering profound philosophy in very simple poetic form intelligible to
even the uneducated. Let me attempt a translation of the signature :
"God's will prevails. Not even an iota of man's will shall prevail"
LOVACRS
