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Hello,
Below are the details of my nephew:
D.O.B:- 6th april 2001
time:- 8:43 am
place:- mumbai

I know a child's horoscope must not be seen at an early age.
But , here his parents have reached the wit's end to control this child.

His parents understand that he is a very kind-hearted and a good boy.But with growing age his mannerless behaviour is becoming predominant such as
lack of manners while eating ,lack of manners while visiting other's houses ,continuously jumping around/being violent in playing with other kids and zero interest in studies.

Total lack of concentration in any thing including games.
His span of attention is not more than 5 - 10 min even for stuffs he likes to do.

He has become unruly mostly after 2007.
Some family astrologer has told he will remain this way till he turns 18.
As a 9 year old kid these things can be tolerated, but as a teenager it will be a big problem for him as well as others.

Can anyone analyse his chart, please.

Can taking him to a child psychologist help??
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Good day to you Orchid,

I assume the time is absolutely correct and there is a difference of +/- 1 minute only.

What are the chances that I would be examining a clear cut case of A.D.H.D. associated with dyslexia within 24 hours?. I have a request to make of you, please understand that it's not the child's fault in the least. It's just pure planetary play.

Tell me if these combination are conducive for a normal childhood

Lagna lord in a retrograde motion
Lagna in a Rashi Sandhi
Chandra helmed between two deadly Malefics
Chandra caught in isolation with malefics placed in Kendra's from Chandra lagna
Chandra debilitated in the Navamsha
Chandra lagna lord in the 8th
2nd and the 5th lord in Debilitation
4th house lord Ravi is placed in Budha's Nakshatra
and the biggest problem of all, the mutual aspect of Shani and Kuja along with the on going 7.5 years of Shani


The Dasha is of Chandra. Chandra is afflicted like I mentioned above. I feel that things will get progressively better with the culmination of the sade sati. please don't lose heart, treat him with understanding and love, and in time thing's will definitely improve. I can say this with authority because you just read a post which was typed by a dyslexic.


best regards,
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Thanks a ton Astroboy,

If I have got it right.. he is suffering from dyslexia??????? :(

Does his chart show a promising future in terms of his health and well-being??? or will he have to suffer the after effects of this once he grows up?? (in terms of his planetary influences being kind to him for his future life)
Also,you may have already seen in his chart that he is doing extremely poorly in his studies... will he be able to get a good education or he may be left behind compared to his peers???

I mean will he be able to grow up and take care of himself like any other kid.. Atleast now, he looks the least inetrested in understanding the do's and don't's...

Thanks again,
we would have failed to understand this problem without your analysis....
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Good day,


you wrote,


If I have got it right.. he is suffering from dyslexia??????? :(
:) Its not that bad as you think it is, Dyslexia is just a learning disability that manifests itself as a difficulty with reading decoding, reading comprehension and/or reading fluency. It is estimated that dyslexia affects between 5% and 17% of the population. The reproduction of what is read (Budha) becomes difficult for a Dyslexic. Memory is also affected.
Dyslexia has been proposed to have three cognitive subtypes: auditory, visual and attentional although not an intellectual disability, it is considered a learning disability, and a reading disability. Persons with dyslexia may have an IQ that ranges anywhere from 70 to well above average, however a standard IQ test would be an inaccurate assessment of intelligence.The World Federation of Neurology defined dyslexia as follows: dyslexia is "a disorder manifested by difficulty in learning to read despite conventional instruction, adequate intelligence and sociocultural opportunity." Astrologically this happens because of the affliction of the 5th lord, 5th house (intellect and intelligence) and Chandra who is the significator of the mind.

Does his chart show a promising future in terms of his health and well-being??? or will he have to suffer the after effects of this once he grows up?? (in terms of his planetary influences being kind to him for his future life)
I dont want to lie to you, but yes it will take some toll on him. Has it not already taken it's toll on his ability to handle his portion of study. if the base is weak, specially with maths the next level will always prove to be difficult and things will eventually crash when the base is weak.


Also,you may have already seen in his chart that he is doing extremely poorly in his studies... will he be able to get a good education or he may be left behind compared to his peers???
If he applies himself to the task then yes. It's going to be very very tough to get him to sit down and learn, there is no point in threatening and forcing him to study with scare tactics, what need to be done is to tell him how important education is for him and how these years will define his whole life.

I mean will he be able to grow up and take care of himself like any other kid.. Atleast now, he looks the least inetrested in understanding the do's and don't's...
Madam, you will see a marked improvement once he finished with his 7.5 Shani

dont get scared and dejected, you are reading a dyslexic's post, yes it has taken its toll on me, but i have clawed my way back.


trust this helps,
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I am not so concerned with the dyslexia alone, it Is the mutual aspect of Kuja and lord Shani aspecting the lagna that gives the boy a short attention span. what I suspect is that he might have a mild case of attention deficit hyperactivity syndrome due to this, Remember Lord Shani is also the badaka lord for this lagna. The problem here is that the moon is caught in isolation with no benefic or malefic aspect + his debility in the Navamsha is a sure cause for worry. Note that at the time of birth the hora lord is the Moon. Take it from me, the kid shows unconventional brilliance for brief periods of time, (from Chandra lagna ketu is in the 5th) till his attention wanders. I think if he still persists with this behaviour after his 7.5 which will end next november then you would need to get him medically evaluated. refrain from doing so until then because it might do adverse harm to his psyche .
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You are right, he shows exceptional brilliance till he looses his attention.
Also, we find him more intelligent compared to other kids his age.
BUT all said, since he cant put his brilliance to any tangible output, there is no benefit..
But will surely take your advice of waiting till next year end...

Hopefully God helps & he definetely improves....


Is there any astrological remedies as in worshipping Lord Hanuman and Shani ?? May be his Mom can do on his behalf..

Thanks again...
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2nd and the 5th lord in Debilitation
4th house lord Ravi is placed in Budha's Nakshatra


2nd relates to his problem with speech i guess.
what is the significance of 5th lord in debilitation and , sun being in budha's nakshatra????how does it manifest in his personality/habits ?
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2nd house is the house of Speech and basic learning from his family, 5th house is the house if intellect and intelligence

fourth house stands for formal education. Ravi the fourth lord is weak because he is placed in Budha's Nakshatra and budha is debilitated.


His intelligence comes from Ketu who is in the 5th house in his Moolatrikona, but we would prefer Budha to do the job than Ketu at this point of time.
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Namaskar Astroyboy,

Most of your pointers are correct and additionally one of my observation.
Charakarakas show Ghati ... His Atmakaraka is MARS . From the Mars Saturn is in the 7 th house - in Maranakaraka Isthanam.
Saturn in Lagnam . Present Narayana Dasa is Taurus which is his Lagnam. ( Dhi )
Remedical measures are there . But he is small. ??

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Thanks Sirji , yes you are right , he is too small to handle any thing , time will tell.
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Thanks sivagnanalingam & Astroboy,
Yes he is too small for any remedies.But if there are any that his parents can do for him, I will be happy to know them from you.

@ Astroboy dont get scared and dejected, you are reading a dyslexic's post, yes it has taken its toll on me, but i have clawed my way back.

Well,going by your posts on this forum and the invaluable help that you are offering others, I should say you have definetely done a great job. :)
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Some times I goof up Orchid/ hope the Forum is tolerant with me :oops:
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Hi Astroboy,

you have mentioned in my nephew's chart his Lagna lord is retrograde.
i found my lagna lord -Me is also retrograde.My education has been fairly good without any problems till graduation.

will appreciate if you can please elaborate effects of retrograde lagna lord in general. Also its effect in case of my nephew & in case of me.Since I am not able to link any major issues in my life to it.
Would like to understand from a Learners point of view.

My details -
10 th nov 1979
time- 8 pm
place - madhepura,bihar


nephews - 6th april 2001, 8:43am , mumbai

Thanks.
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Good day,

Your Nephew's Lagna lord is not only Retrograde he is also in a Gandanta. Your Lagna lord is Retrograde no doubt but he is placed well with the 5th lord in a upachaya house in the 6th and Recieves the aspect of the lord of the 6th and 11th, both upachaya houses. My guru's dictum is that Ideally the lagna lord should not be retrograde because he can deliver erratic results but there are other mitigating factors in your horoscope that can modify a erratic result. In your nephew's case a number of factors have come together to bring the horoscope down. we cannot take one thread and weave a tapestry can we ? It's a multitude of threads that go into making it, Good or bad will depend on the quality and the colour of these threads and how they are placed in the weave.


Trust this helps,
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Hello Orchid

By the given details,the Taurus ascendent is rising,and running dasha is of moon.Now ,my dear members please notice that moon
is non afflicted ,however it is Kendrum yog.I am not anble to see such situations in the chart, as described by the subscriber.
His ascendent is Aries and now checkout the dasha ,it is a chidrdasha of sun/ven.

According to me the child is come out of behaviour problems from the dasha of moon even he will come upwards or you could say
grow more in his acdmic level.

Orchid be relax,tackle your child with patience everything will be OK.I think he should be counciled by a psychological counciller.
Brother you could see +ve changes in your child by yourself at the end of this year.
I want feedback specially in this case,because he is such a small child just facing his past Karmas.
Gayatri :lol:
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Hi GayatriPearl,
I checked this thread after a long time (9 months :-) )..
Here is the latest on this child - my nephew..
His mom took him to a child councellor with his consent in nov 2010. now he is regularly going to the councellor.. he is enjoying it ..
He has improved a lot.. started taking his studies seriously.. takes conscious efforts to behave well....
He himself asks feedback from his parents as to how he is behaving..
SO we are very happy .. academically also he has started doing well .. as he now understands what is expected from him...

Thanks all for their time and analysis.. This forum has contributed a lot to my and my dear ones life...
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