Interesting chart

[ChandraLagna]

Dear members,

Here is an interesting chart - invite observations on this one. I know the child well, so hopefully can answer any clarifications...


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[adity]

Dear Chandralagna

How's the mother of this child ? Did she have health issues during delivery and after? Did the child have health issues when it was born? Also now?

[ChandraLagna]

Dear Adity,

Well, no health issues for the child or mother due to, or during delivery. However, you are right in that the mom has certain other issues....pl continue.

[adity]

Dear Chandralagna,

Have the parents seperated. 9th lord is vargottam debilated, sun is exalted but deb in the navamsha. Not sure if the child has the father around him or father is in major trouble. Moon is vargottam debiliated. 4th lord is in the 9th but with mars who is the maraka lord. I am really not sure. But there sure is an issue with both the father and the mother. I could be completely wrong. Awaiting your revert.

[ashcan2004]

Moon deb in D1, D-9, exhalted in D-12

Me Deb in D1, D-9

Su exhalted in D1, deb in D-9

Mon deb in 2nd House, 4th from Mo: Sat, 4th House Sat, position of Sa from Mo is 8th.

moon lord of 10th in 2nd , Sa is YK and Moon , Ju in Kendra -----Gaj Kesari Yoga

AV chart has 38 points in 4th house

Is mother spending some time away from kid due to travelling ---job or distress ?

How is health of kid doing ?

[ChandraLagna]

Adity - very impressive! You are doing excellent!
Yes, dad is in trouble...has been for a while - joblessness.
Mom has different issues- mildly depressive, unpredictable - not sociable - sometimes irrational & juvenile behavior. Not separated, but came close to it many years back, but now re-conciled.

@ Ashcan: No, mom is with kid and his health is quite good.

[adity]

Dear Chandralagna,

Thank you very much. That's very encouraging. Also another point i wanted to make. Sun and Moon are in 6 - 8 relationship. There will always be some kind of seperation between the parents - physically or mentally, forced or not. This is a troubled child as well.

Father will definitely get a decent job by march 2014. Hope he is able to manage till then.

Do let us know if there is anything else that is to know.

[rathodp]

I know a child who has exalted 9th lord Saturn in 5th house but she was separated from her father after few months of birth-parents separated.

Can there be any reason for a child separated from father ? Exalted 9th lord should not deprive a person of father's love is the belief I had.

[ChandraLagna]

Adity,

The dad is out of job for almost 6 years now, very less hope of finding one now.

Come back to the child....you said troubled - can you elaborate? No issues in health at all, mind you.

@ rathod - hard to say with just one placement.

[roy_debraj1]

Hi CL sir..

This child is having 9th lord Me debltd in D1 and also in D9 and aspected by sat & Ma in D12. The karaka Su is exalted but with rahu and debltd in D9. Conjunction of sat & rahu in he 9th house. All these implies trouble related to Father. conjunction of rahu-sun and debltion of sun may give problems in the relationship with father. it may give him a false sense of ego, lack of confidence and self esteem..AL is being aspected by sat, Ju and mars...so the child may be perceived as a organized, disciplined, learned, honest but also aggresive and head strong. 4th house is being aspected by malefic mars, 4th lord conjunct with mars and in nak of rah, the karaka of motherly nurishment moon is debltd in D1 and D9. so mother will suffer and also the family happiness will be suffered. Due to the weakness of of moon and moon in the nak of sat, so mind will be depressed, with lots anxiety and fear. The 4th & 5th lord in 9th house but with malefic mars but he is in own house in D9. The karaka of knowledge Ju is vargottama and aspecting the 5th house. So over all education should be good but due to the weakness of Me he may not be well in maths. But how much mahadasa of Me will support is a question. The 7th house in Ra-Ke axis, 7th lord with sat, karaka for relationship Ve is under papakartari yoga in D1. In the D9 the 7th house is being aspected by sat, 7th lord is debltd and Ve is with Ra. Due to all these native may suffer in relationship in his life. Ve-Moon aspecting each other and Ve with Ra may also mke him romantic but moon in scorpio will make him emotional and very sensitive in nature.

[ashcan2004]

Chandra Lagnaji: Thanks for update

[rathodp]

@ rathod - hard to say with just one placement.

25th Nov 2011 21:23 Mumbai

[adity]

Dear Chandralagna

This child is going through mercury MD and moon AD. Both vargottam debilitated. This child is mentally disturbed. Tends to get aggressive. Moon has no planets on either side and aspected by the 8th lord venus. 4th lord saturn is with maandi. Will have problems with studies as well. How is the speech? Is there a problem with that?

[amitns]

mars saturn conjunction in 9th, mars drusti on 4th along with debilitated moon in rashi and navamsha. no support from parents. sun rahu within 8 degrees, and sun neech in navamsha, very late settlement, ninth lord debilated, ninth lord in navamsha in 8th.

mars in 10th in navamsa in own house , together with moon in vrushika, may go for police like occupations.

fifth lord shani, no support from 4th house, may be delays in education. may suffer depression during ketu mahadasha, which will also be his rebellious teen-age .

but sun has high shadbala, and jupiter is also vargottam, may be saving grace. venus also has high shadbala.
but jupiter is lord of 3rd and 6th, may give success in trades/ low end jobs.

[ChandraLagna]

Very interesting observations, although not very accurate by both Adity and Amitns. Whatever both of you are saying is somewhat in the right direction, but differently manifested....will provide feedback in a bit.

@Roy : you got one thing absolutely right - lack of happiness at family, or due to mother...for the rest, please wait a bit.

[rathore]

ChandraLagna ji,

A quick scans points that the native is either afraid of dogs or a dog may be dangerous to the native.
This reminds me I too wanted to start similar threads.

Rathore

[ChandraLagna]

Yes - he was indeed bitten by a dog once and had to take the course of injections !

[roy_debraj1]

Hi CL Sir...Thanks for your words..one interesting point i just noticed, conjunction of 2nd lord,5th lordin the 9th house of fortune plus lord of self effort jup is in 11th house of gain additionally lagnalord aspecting the 2nd house. So i think all these are creating a good dhana yoga. But how this money will come is bit confusing as lord of career moon is very weak though having pakshabala. 7th house having 11th lord sun exalted and 7th lord in 9th house, i guess his marriage will be a turning point in his life. It may not be a happy married life but may give good amount of financial gain.

[ChandraLagna]

I think Adity mentoned above about the boy having a problem with speech. Yes, there is a problem, but not in the way one normally imagines. Its a different problem. They boy lies through this teeth. Always. To everyone. Even a few years back, he had the gumption to coax his elder brother's signature on report card when marks weren't good. Which brings me to the next topic, Education.

Barely manages to scrape through his class tests and exam. Sickness always co-incidentally finds its way to him whenever there is a class test. Mysteriously disappearing by evening. Misses his homework rather regularly - standing outside the class is a regular thing for him. Sadly, his mom makes excuses for him everytime, instead of disciplining him. Dad of course is never at home - mostly out of town, or comes home late at night.

Dont let that deb mercury fool you - he is not dumb or stupid. Far from it. He's very cunning & conniving in his daily activities. Its hard to see someone so young having totally lost innocence.

Not physically the strongest in his peer group, nor the smartest - yet he is the "leader" - the one whose approval is sought by his mates. He finds his way into neighbor's homes in the absence of his friend, or the friend's parents, coolly goes to their play things [play station, computer] switches it on and plays as if it is his own!

Does not own any plaything of his own...survives solely on bats and balls of his friends. And yet coaxes his friends to get new stuff for the "team" aka himself, which they do. Has no qualms about picking up stuff whenever he visits friends or neighbor's houses - picks up pens, pencils, erasers, crayons, calculators, anything that can be silently pocketed. Since last one year though, this boy is subjected to body searches whenever he leaves anyone houses People have wisened up about the small missing things whenever he visits them !

For someone so young, his negative traits are so clearly and strongly manifested. Its but a matter of time before the larger society comes to know of him.

thanks to everyone for analyzing this chart....I am quite impressed by how close some of those analyses were !

[adity]

Thanks Chandralagna for that detailed feedback. Girls better be away from this boy Venus 8th lord aspects a debilitated moon.

[ChandraLagna]

Someone asked me why I put up this chart - what is it that makes it so "interesting" .

1. 4 Planets neecha in navamsa
2. Mercury is vargottama Neecha
3. Moon is vargottama neecha
4. Sun is Uccha-bhanga - exalted in rashi, deb in Navamsa - this is a very serious fall
5. Sun and Rahu in close conjunction
6. Lagna Lord in Papa-kartari Yoga

The results are there for one to see.

[swamykool]

CL, this kid is a piece of work

[shilpa]

Dear members,

Here is an interesting chart - invite observations on this one. I know the child well, so hopefully can answer any clarifications...

May 6, 2004, 18:00, Bangalore.

Dear CL,

--Thanks for posting....it's defnitely an interesting chart .
Interesting because you are able to narrate so closley the finer details fo this boy's character...that makes it easier to study the impact of all those debilitated planets.


--going back to the chart you posted....the 9th house is destroyed....completely.....shani-mangal conjunction is extremly malefic... a carried for ward curse magnifiedl maleficity when Gulika is also conjunct. there...adding fuel to fire........and 9th Lord gone in the 6th and in debility.

--and the 9th of navamsa is also destroyed.... 9th Lord in Navamsa is also debiliatetd .....and further Sun debiliated in the 9th

--with Dharmstahn(s) so bady destroyed He would have no concept of moralities.

--and as I instinctively expected...... the 6th Lord Jup sits in the badhaksthan Leo and that is the 12th house..association between 6th and badhaksthan confirming abhichara....of the type where because of curses carried forward it is easy for the native to get possesed by evil...especiall given the karaks for soul and mind are also debilitated....making the resistance power very low.

-there are many other afflictions that stand out but all are smaller to the above two that I have highlighted.

--He needs serious remedies towards evil "shuddhikaran"...else what is innocnet mischief / street smartness now will turn into much bigger law-breaking and darker things such as drugs / alcohols.


---if not coached/ counselled and remedially supported from now on.....the successive sun and Moon MDs might hit him very, very hard.,...especially the Moon MD might break him down mentally / psychologically.


--Here is anotehr chart with 4 debilitated planets in navamsa...what do you make of this.
March 28, 2011
9:46am
Bhavnagar


regards

[lovacrs]

Someone asked me why I put up this chart - what is it that makes it so "interesting" .

1. 4 Planets neecha in navamsa
2. Mercury is vargottama Neecha
3. Moon is vargottama neecha
4. Sun is Uccha-bhanga - exalted in rashi, deb in Navamsa - this is a very serious fall
5. Sun and Rahu in close conjunction
6. Lagna Lord in Papa-kartari Yoga

The results are there for one to see.

Chandralagna ji,

For a nine year old, analysis other than those relating to parents may be premature. You have so far mentioned problems only in respect of parents. There will of-course be impact of this on the child's mind. But what I am surprised about is D12 does not show much affliction. Sun as a kaaraka for father being consistently afflicted is the only one standing out.

[ChandraLagna]

Dear Lovacrs -

Actually, I did not mention any problems regarding parents I merely confirmed some of the observations done by others.

The one post that I made specifically regarding the boy is all about his behavior and this is not chart analysis but purely observed traits and thus not really premature. He does lie, does steal, does hide playmates stuff to retrieve them later on, does bully others etc.