How to analyse Sadhe Satti-1

[Dr Neeraj]

Dear Friends

There're 2 basic positioning of planets:
1. Planets are positioned in houses as per the lagna
2. Positioning of planets in nakshatras. Nakshatra are classified as per position of moon.

At the time of birth the nak where Moon is posited is called Janam tara (nak),
2nd from it is Sampat tara,
3rd is Vipat tara (any planet placed here creates obstacles & problems)
4th is Kshema tara
5th is Praytak tara (any planet placed here creates destructions)
6th is Saadhak tara
7th is Vadhh tara (any planet placed here may creates extreme problems like death)
8th is Mitra tara
9th is Ati mitra tara


Ex: Lagna is body of the person but it may be posited in Vadh tara itself, symbolising tough life and health problems. Lagna is mitra tara is very gud.

For analysing any chart, We've to synthesize the 2 as one relate to physical world (Analysis from lagna) and other mental world (the way we perceive this world). We have seen some poeple got everything (promising kundli from Lagna) but they're never happy (Poor promises from Chandra kundli) or viceversa. Hence Chandra kundli is a must to analyse.

Lets discuss Sadhe sati which is transit of Sat from previous sign of moon, sign of Natal moon and the next sign. This is the traditional definition which is modified by Astrologer Katve of Maharashtra. According to him, when Sat transits within 45 deg on either side of Moon, it is sadhe satti & NOT by just by entry of Sat in 12th from Moon. i.e. If Moon is in Taurus at 29 deg then merely by Sat's entry in Aries at 1-00 wont start sadhe satti rather when it wil come at 14 deg, sadhe satti will start. at 14 deg Sat is within 45 deg of Moon (16 deg of Aries & 29 deg of Taurus) and likewise this Sadhe satti will continue will 14 deg of Cancer.


Now interestingly Every sadhe sati starts with transit of Sat thru Vadh tara of a person. Why?
See Sadhe sati is transit of Sat in 13 Nakshatra padas on either side of moon. So its like 13 pada before Moon + pada where Moon is posited + 13 padas more
Total 27 pada makes 27 x 3 deg 20 min = 90 degrees i.e.3 rashi

In what-so-ever pada Moon is, its previous 2 Nakshatra will be Atimitra tara & Mitra tara, totalling of 8 padas. The previous 4 padas are from Vadhh tara.

So Sadhe sati has to start with Sat's entry into Vadh tara & this generally gives a blow to person. So will the entire sadhe sati will be bad? No, There're plenty of examples when Sadhe sati bestowed native with much success (JL Nehru & Indira Gandhi become PM in their sadhe satti). But yes Sadhe sati start is always a Bang to native.

So Lets fine tune it with several principles:

1. Generally the problemtaic time will be when Sadhe sati starts, coz Sat is in Vadhh tara & when it is in Nakshatra containing Moon & when it leaves, here Sat transits thru Vipat tara.
2. Relate it with AV score of Sat and SAV score of sign e.g. Sat with AV score less than 2 in that rashi will yield problems. Synthesis is reqd for results like 2/35 i.e. Sat's score is 2 but rashi score 35 or 4/23 Sat's score 4 but rashi score 23.
3. Again in case of 2/35 not entire time is bad. Fine tune it further by looking at Kakshya. The kaksha of planets who've given score to Sat will be somewhat relaxing. e.g. Ven & Lagna have provided points to Sat hence Sat's transit from 15 deg to 18 deg 45 min (Kaksha of Ven) and from 26 deg 15 min to 30 deg (kaksha of Lagna) will not be that bad.
4. Likewise not complete transit of Sat in Mitra tara & atimitra tara will be gud. Deduce the gud & bad period using Rule 3.
5. In its transit of 90 deg Sat will essentially transits thru at least 6 nakshatra. Mark the lord of nakshatras. If they're bitter enemy of Sat in Panchadha maitri then that time will be worse. Now again this rule need to be synthesized with above mentioned rules.
6. Dahsa operative at that time is again very important. I've written it in last coz in 7.5 yr time there'll be many ADs. Some will be gud others bad. But they need to be considered.


Regards
Neeraj

[Dr Neeraj]

General Rule of thumb:
1. Retro Sat in general is always bad. In sadhe sati these results are much pronounced.
2. Transit moment of nakshatra is to be noted. Even when it moves from Mitra to Atimitra, or from its foe to friend's nakshatra; it'll give some problems.
3. If during Sadhe sati Sat transits thru 64th Navamsa of Sun or Lagna, that become a very sensitive point. Or suring sadhe satti any malefic (Rahu,. Ketu, Mars) transits thru 64th navamsa from Moon, Sun or Lagna; this is a very problemtaic time.
4. Sat's transits over exact degree of any natal planet in sadhe sati is also to be watched carefully.
5. For Lagna Cancer, Leo (where Sat is functional maraka) Sadhes atti is generally tougher than other lagna.
6. In case of afflicted (debilitated, combust, in rashu sandhi) Moon or Sat in natal chart, Sadhe satti may give more troubles.
7. If during the sadhe satti Sat become debilitated (i.e. transits thru Aries), that time may be more problematic.

Regards
Neeraj

[Patriot]

Dear Dr. Neeraj,

How will Sade Satti fare for Capricorn Lagna & Aquarius moon lagna. considering Shani is the LL for both & positioned well in D1.

Also Shani in Paramitra Nakshatra.

Regards,

[Dr Neeraj]

Dear Dr. Neeraj,
Thanks for the input, I havent started to check the charts with present transitioned but I can relate to what you are saying..I went through the Sade sati when i was born...
I wanted to ask that if a person is undergoing second sade-sati in his life would it be better than the one he experienced before ( a person can experience a maximum of 2 sade-sati in the life).

The first one was near fatal and I will be entering the 2nd one soon( moon is in 10th house)...

Regards,
Shubh

Dear Shubh
Sadhe satti always gives different results in different phases of life. In childhood its basically the parents who suffer actual problems not the kid. In adult age, its gives results in all possible areas and in 3rd cycle it may liberate one from life.
God bless you
Neeraj

[Dr Neeraj]

Dear Dr. Neeraj,
How will Sade Satti fare for Capricorn Lagna & Aquarius moon lagna. considering Shani is the LL for both & positioned well in D1.
Also Shani in Paramitra Nakshatra.
Regards,

Dear Patriot
The results of sadhe satti will none the less be there, albeit not as severe as that of Leo/Cancer lagna.
The birth details will help in telling better.
God bless you
Neeraj

[lifeline]

Dear Friends

At the time of birth the nak where Moon is posited is called Janam tara (nak),
2nd from it is Sampat tara,
3rd is Vipat tara (any planet placed here creates obstacles & problems)
4th is Kshema tara
5th is Praytak tara (any planet placed here creates destructions)
6th is Saadhak tara
7th is Vadhh tara (any planet placed here may creates extreme problems like death)
8th is Mitra tara
9th is Ati mitra tara


Ex: Lagna is body of the person but it may be posited in Vadh tara itself, symbolising tough life and health problems. Lagna is mitra tara is very gud.

For analysing any chart, We've to synthesize the 2 as one relate to physical world (Analysis from lagna) and other mental world (the way we perceive this world). We have seen some poeple got everything (promising kundli from Lagna) but they're never happy (Poor promises from Chandra kundli) or viceversa. Hence Chandra kundli is a must to analyse.

Lets discuss Sadhe sati which is transit of Sat from previous sign of moon, sign of Natal moon and the next sign. This is the traditional definition which is modified by Astrologer Katve of Maharashtra. According to him, when Sat transits within 45 deg on either side of Moon, it is sadhe satti & NOT by just by entry of Sat in 12th from Moon. i.e. If Moon is in Taurus at 29 deg then merely by Sat's entry in Aries at 1-00 wont start sadhe satti rather when it wil come at 14 deg, sadhe satti will start. at 14 deg Sat is within 45 deg of Moon (16 deg of Aries & 29 deg of Taurus) and likewise this Sadhe satti will continue will 14 deg of Cancer.


Now interestingly Every sadhe sati starts with transit of Sat thru Vadh tara of a person. Why?
See Sadhe sati is transit of Sat in 26 Nakshatra padas on either side of moon. So its like 26 pada before Moon + pada where Moon is posited + 26 padas more
Total 27 pada makes 27 x 3 deg 20 min = 90 degrees i.e.3 rashi

In what-so-ever pada Moon is, its previous 2 Nakshatra will be Atimitra tara & Mitra tara, totalling of 8 padas. The previous 4 padas are from Vadhh tara.

Dear Neeraj sir,
You have identified 9 taras from the moon placement itself. Can you clarify which ones should be in the next nakshtra and which ones are in previous nakshtra? Also is there some mistake in above underlined region? Total padas in sadesatti is 53 or 27?

Thanks for informing that the angles should be taken into view while reading sadesatti...

It would be great if you explain the transition of saturn through the above 9 taras.

Warm regards,
Lifeline

[leo]

Dr Neeraj,

Really informative post.

I have one query though.

Is sadi satti always 7.5 years uniformly for all people?

It might happen that Saturn after crossing span of Sade Sati 90 degrees may get retro and come to back to those inimical 90 degree span. Will this initiate sade sati again for the person ?

Kindly share your views.

Regards,

[saky79]

Dear Dr Neeraj,
my sadhe satti wud be starting in 2014 n my saturn has the highest shadbal in my chart...so will it give lots of trouble for me??

D-22.11.1979,T-16:33,P-Mumbai,male

Rgds

[Dr Neeraj]

Also is there some mistake in above underlined region? Total padas in sadesatti is 53 or 27?
It would be great if you explain the transition of saturn through the above 9 taras.
Lifeline

Dear Lifeline
Thanks for the correction. There's typing mistake. Sadhe satti include a total of 27 pada of nak (also called tara). One pada of nak consist of 3 deg 20 min hence 27 nak totals 90 deg.

As regard transit of Sat thru various tara, we need to consider the lord of the various tara & Sat's relationship with that in natal chart as well as general relation. So by the position of lagna, moon, Sat and lord of tara there'll be many combinations which can't be discussed as a whole. We need to take them case by case basis.

God bless you
Neeraj

[Sree.sree]

Respectd NEERAJ SIR-My humble request is Plz clarify my doubts....Raasi:Libra;Asc:Leo;1)wht r the Effects of Saadesathi/Sat.Transisn Nw...?2)IM Very Much Confusing abt MERC. results in My chart.. Placd in 8th(deblatd);But a)Neecha Bhanga inD1 b)D9 Get Exhaul.+Aspecting by Exhau.Ven 3)Can I succesfully compltd Reseach;JOB 4)Abroad chances in A.D 5)Marrieg issues., D.0..B:05/APR/1988;;03:33PM;P.0.B:Nellore;AndhraPradesh;pg in Chemistry ;Male-"Waitng for Ur Valuble analysing.."

[Crystalpages]

Adding to Neeraj ji's thoughts, there is another consideration, if I may submit:

Any two planets when they are 40 degrees apart, are seen to be in the same navamsha (D9 conjunction)
Each navamsha being 3d20 minutes wide, and depending on whether one planet is at the beginning of the navamsha while another at the end of it, the actual arc-distance between the two planets can be a few degrees larger than 40 for them to be seen in the same navamsha (D9).

Sade sati would then begin when transit Saturn enters the same navamsha as natal moon!
Two rounds around the D9 with reference to natal moon, and when transit Saturn would leave the navamsha of natal moon, sade sati would be over.

Regards,

Rohiniranjan

[kavi74]

Dear Rohini Ranjan Jee

I would request your help in analysing my chart and the impact of sadhe saati specially when Saturn transits over my natal moon nakshatra .

Dob - 07.05.74
Pob - deoria (u.p.)
Tob - 18:34

Also the impact of ven - ven - sat sub.

I am working at a senior level in an apparel company .

Kindly help me with this.

Kavi74

[Kunal]

Dear Friends


At the time of birth the nak where Moon is posited is called Janam tara (nak),
2nd from it is Sampat tara,
3rd is Vipat tara (any planet placed here creates obstacles & problems)
4th is Kshema tara
5th is Praytak tara (any planet placed here creates destructions)
6th is Saadhak tara
7th is Vadhh tara (any planet placed here may creates extreme problems like death)
8th is Mitra tara
9th is Ati mitra tara



Now interestingly Every sadhe sati starts with transit of Sat thru Vadh tara of a person. Why?
See Sadhe sati is transit of Sat in 13 Nakshatra padas on either side of moon. So its like 13 pada before Moon + pada where Moon is posited + 13 padas more
Total 27 pada makes 27 x 3 deg 20 min = 90 degrees i.e.3 rashi

In what-so-ever pada Moon is, its previous 2 Nakshatra will be Atimitra tara & Mitra tara, totalling of 8 padas. The previous 4 padas are from Vadhh tara.


So Lets fine tune it with several principles:

1. Generally the problemtaic time will be when Sadhe sati starts, coz Sat is in Vadhh tara & when it is in Nakshatra containing Moon & when it leaves, here Sat transits thru Vipat tara.
3. Again in case of 2/35 not entire time is bad. Fine tune it further by looking at Kakshya. The kaksha of planets who've given score to Sat will be somewhat relaxing. e.g. Ven & Lagna have provided points to Sat hence Sat's transit from 15 deg to 18 deg 45 min (Kaksha of Ven) and from 26 deg 15 min to 30 deg (kaksha of Lagna) will not be that bad.


Regards
Neeraj

Excellent post. Very informative. I couldn't quite get few things though if somebody could explain it please?
This may sound stupid to those who have a clear understanding. I'd request them to bear with me and clear my doubt if possible.
From what I understand, Moon's pada in a nakshatra is janma tara/pada. 13 padas (3 nakshatras and 1 pada ??) before/preceding the janma tara/pada is the Vadhh tara and Saturn's entry here commences the Sadhe Satti and it continues until Saturn traverses the 13 padas (3 nakshatras and 1 pada??) beyond janma tara/pada?
Is this correct? And the terms taras and padas used interchangeably? If not then what is the difference.

The other thing that confused me is that how do we know which degrees are whose kaksha? I understand looking at the Ashtakavarga to know the points of the bhav and Saturn contributing and then looking at which planet is contributing the points there but how do we find kaksha degrees of that from which Saturn is contributing?

Thank you again for this post.