about 3/4th & 1/2 aspects

[Waterbearer]

Are they taken into consideration or just imply ignored? IMO they are aspects, even though not full, 3/4th means 75% & hence it should be taken into consideration while 1/2 may be ignored, any thoughts?

Also, in sarvali there are some special yogas given, for e.g:
If Jupiter is posited in Sagittarius/Pisces and is aspected by Saturn, the native will be dirty, will be
fear-stricken, be neglected by the people of his village/town and be devoid of happiness

What if jupiter is in sagittarius & aspected by the 4th house aspect(3/4th) of saturn? does it still apply to the above statement?

[subramanianp]

Dear Waterbearer
To the best of my knowledge all type of Drishties (aspect) are to be considerd as far as horoscopes are considered.
In muhurtha only the 7th house aspect need to be taken.

[swamykool]

WB,

Partial aspects are to be taken while judging a chart. As Subramanian ji has said, for muhurta only 7th is taken.

For Prashna, only 7th and Special aspects are taken.

swamykool

[Humannature]

If Jupiter is posited in Sagittarius/Pisces and is aspected by Saturn, the native will be dirty, will be
fear-stricken, be neglected by the people of his village/town and be devoid of happiness

WB,
I am not even sure that anything should be generalized like that.
I know a chart where Jupiter is in saggi n aspected by saturn (not even partial, but full aspect)
The person is neither dirty nor neglected by anyone..
It's the exact opposite for that matter.

[ChandraLagna]

Human Nature,

That's the catch - nothing can be directly applied without taking into account ALL details.

In that chart, Jupiter is in sagi, yes But in Cancer in Navamsa - whereas Saturn is in Aries in Navamsa. Jupiter is also excellent in Varga Strength - Airavatamsa. To top it all, Saturn is in Vishaka - Jupiter's Nakshatra. With Jupiter being so powerful Sani has lesser of a negative impact.

Lets look at sphuta. The degrees of separation is about 43 deg between Sani and Guru. And, full aspect is at 60 deg. Nevertheless aspect exists even at 43 deg...but its not the same. Remember that each planet has a blindside upto 30 deg forward and backward - i.e. one house ahead and one back.

Consider all of the above !

Best regards,
Arun

[Humannature]

Okay Arun. Thank you for explaining why it is, in reality, otherwise in this case..
See Saturn in Jupiter's Nk is a new angle for me..never looked at it from that perspective before..Always thought thouht Sat is exalted, is with enemy, so strength will be reduced. but apparently not..

I am thinking let's make this person president
What say?

[ChandraLagna]

Never, ever, ever, forget Nakshatras. Ever.

President...of what ?!!

Arun.

[Humannature]

Never, ever, ever, forget Nakshatras. Ever.

President...of what ?!!

Arun.

President of the world since it's so spotless...

[Waterbearer]

Thank you Mr Subramanian, SK & others for posting. After getting no replies, I had come to the conclusion that perhaps my question was non-sensical.

Its sad that in practice, I have seen people only focussing on the full aspects & completely disregarding the partial ones.

[swamykool]

Dear WB, your observation may or may not be correct. For instance, I use the partial aspects but do not write about it. As it makes the piece too long and complicated. Many others might be doing the same.

swamykool

[subramanianp]

Dear Swamy
You said it .
Certain points we consider ,but may not touch in our readings.
One way or the other if some nutralising factors are there ,then we totally avoid those in our explanations.

[Waterbearer]

SK, If only novices like me could know what goes unwritten ; ) I remember the 80-20 thing you said on chat.
But on a more serious note, I can gauge how cumbersome it would become to write about 7 planets aspecting each other in multiple times.

I just think that in some cases, they should be highlighted, for e.g in case of an afflicted mind, the 3/4th aspect of saturn on moon may be worth discussing, but thats just my notion.