I am not able to see this photograph again. If god is giving punishment to this child for his past life's bad karma then What is the difference between god and humans? Everyone wants to take revenge but no one wants to forgive. We use to say" god loves all." what kind of love god has for this child?? God is cruel. I am filling like till the date i was not worshiping the almighty,but i was worshiping the cruel powerful person like Saddam husain or a Don Daaud..
Well, Andy jaan, I am lost for words, but you have a point . This entire post has taken a toll on me to be honest with you . I am lost for words .
Through hard work and spiritual practices, a person gets honor and dignity. The lazy one who puts in no efforts is like a fool who allows salt to be spilled on the wounds of his misfortunes. The idler depending only on fate, achieves nothing. - K.N.Rao ji
Dear Deepakji,
My congratulations for a wonderful post !
I understand perfectly when you say that after writing this post you feel too drained to write...today incidentally I feel like that too...
Since you are so much more well read than me , can you please answer a simple question - why the hell are we alive ? I mean why this fuss ? why law of karma ? Why create creatures so that they have a free-will that can be misused ? What did anyone achieve by creation ? I am not trying to question God or Law of Karma - I am too insignificant for that...I want to go deeper than the law of Karma...I am just asking a question that has been bothering me for such a long time. When Shakespeare said that we are mere puppets in a stage , I think he must have realized this...why is there a need for this creation ? This manifested universe ?
I have read all three parts of Aghora , but I feel that it addresses the technicalities of creation , the "how" not the actual "why" ..
Can you please tell me ?
Thanks and regards,
Spidey
I am a student of this subject , and hence I might be wrong in my calculations. Kindly seek other opinions too , before coming to a conclusion.
Spidey Ji , Let me be honest with you, I know I am going to stir a hornets nest here ...... apart from all the jingoism about "mine is bigger than yours" " "my God is better than yours" and " My book has a better answer than yours" , No book has answered the "why"". Every book and every religion has a answer...... But that answer is "you are here, now let us tell you how you can catch the first flight out, please subscribe to our theory .... This is our fastest flight out of the mess . .. and its first class . one airline promises 72 virgins once you land provided you bring along some other souls with you . one book starts off with " In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. The earth was formless and empty, and darkness covered the deep waters. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the surface of the waters." Then God said, “Let there be light,†and there was light. And God saw that the light was good. Then he separated the light from the darkness. God called the light "day" and the darkness "night." what a load of crap ....... . "
I feel I am not qualified enough to answer your question, and I am definitely not qualified enough to understand the "why" of this whole play . But let me tell you this, After all , a baby does not question the workings of the breast and the chemical composition of the milk , It just suckles , ignoring the mechanism behind the feed . "I have become that baby , happy to suckle on this concept that the laws of karma are supreme, there is a god , and we are in this mess due to our own doing . I firmly believe in Re - incarnation , past lifes actions, and I believe that we will all be born again to work out our karmas . No point in blaming any one for the mess we are in . Its our own doing .
Spidey ji, absurd as it might sound we can all end this in a maximum of 120 years, starting now . But we are so caught up in the illusion, that no body stops to think of it this way . ........... This entire creation of Humans as we know it can come to a complete standstill in a mere 120 years . Think about it . Go through the "laws of Karma" again. Its all there . The answers are all in that book . Find your own niche and milk it for all its worth.
When it comes to God, to each his own. everbody needs to find their own niche .....What ever makes them happy .
Best regard's
Through hard work and spiritual practices, a person gets honor and dignity. The lazy one who puts in no efforts is like a fool who allows salt to be spilled on the wounds of his misfortunes. The idler depending only on fate, achieves nothing. - K.N.Rao ji
Spidey .......... sometimes my frustration knows no bounds ....... when I have to put a Dog down , when I see a cow getting slaughtered , when I see birds in a cage, when I see a man cry , I seriously wonder at the end of the day ........... what the %$^& is happening .
I leave with you a song which has helped me for a long time ......... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hW88EvEAd0k .... some times I have bouts of doubt . Even the best have gone through it . Mother theresa did . Nothing to be ashamed of .
Through hard work and spiritual practices, a person gets honor and dignity. The lazy one who puts in no efforts is like a fool who allows salt to be spilled on the wounds of his misfortunes. The idler depending only on fate, achieves nothing. - K.N.Rao ji
but one thing that i have never been clear about is why should i want moksha ? there maybe many realities out there but this earth is the only reality that i know at present and this life suits me just fine...
floating on a cloud twanging the harp for all eternity does not seem as exciting as a human life ? so why should i trade ?
Rose...if i may answer your query to Astro boy....
Consider yourself to be one of the most fortunate ones.....you are contented and happy... exactly the way you are...
and my sincere prayers... it should stay that way...!!!
If it ain't broke...dont try to fix it....
Just be aware of your mind though...that's the mischief maker..one moment you can be on top..and the next moment...you could be back in this forum asking how to end this trip and how to get moksha....
but one thing that i have never been clear about is why should i want moksha ? there maybe many realities out there but this earth is the only reality that i know at present and this life suits me just fine...
floating on a cloud twanging the harp for all eternity does not seem as exciting as a human life ? so why should i trade ?
Rose...if i may answer your query to Astro boy....
Consider yourself to be one of the most fortunate ones.....you are contented and happy... exactly the way you are...
and my sincere prayers... it should stay that way...!!!
If it ain't broke...dont try to fix it....
Just be aware of your mind though...that's the mischief maker..one moment you can be on top..and the next moment...you could be back in this forum asking how to end this trip and how to get moksha....
Abhijit Muhurta,
That was a generic question from the point of view of a human soul since i had asked it without referring to a personal experience
I am very much intrested in religion...and Astroboy had said that he had studied religion for some years....
and he had answered the query through his music very well....shorn of all religiosity but absolutely no confusion there
so never assume anything about a querant i can be a man,woman,third gender hiding behind this "nom de plume" but any day i personally would very very definitely prefer floating on a cloud with a harp and a bunch of cherubs on attendance...
regards,
rose
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Dear Deepakji,
Thank you for your reply ! It's a pleasure interacting with you
And I really envy people like your grandmother - people with unshakable faith .
It takes a lot of guts to say this - "Ours is not to question, ours is to endure"
They are the ones who are truly blessed !
Thanks and regards,
Spidey
I am a student of this subject , and hence I might be wrong in my calculations. Kindly seek other opinions too , before coming to a conclusion.
on one hand, our religion tells us that whatever we are facing today is our past life's karma balance. On the other hand, it says Brahma writes our fate. So, in my first life, if Brahma has written that I be a really really bad person, I would have behave that way and in the process, accrued lot of negative karma. So, in my next life, I will be suffering because of the balance of my negative karma. How FAIR is this ?
S
A judge gave capital punishment to a person.
A hangman hanged that person.
An army soldier killed enemy
A person killed other person
Brahma written all these 4 persons will kill somebody but not written how , for that he has given them mind.
Hence Brahma is fair
If you can not ignore an insult laugh at it, if you can not laugh at it you probably deserved it.
From the book vedic astrology (An integrated approach by the great P.V.Narasimha Rao ) chart 37 page 236
This is the chart of an I.S.K.O.N. devotee who was disillusioned with the materialistic world, left his education in mathematics at a Russian university, wandered in the forest for a few months and then moved to a monastery in 1990
January 26 1971
10 44 AM ( 3:00 East )
Lviv
Latitude - 49 N 49
Longitude - 24 E 01
I have always maintained that a Shani who is debilitated and does not get a Neecha Bhanga worth writing about is the silent killer to watch out for . He has to be assessed carefully . A debilitated lagna lord , being Shani is to be handled carefully . Please read what I had written in my 3rd Post.
In my opinion for a man to turn towards God , there must be a systematic failure of all houses connected with Material gains . Like the organs of a dying man shutting down one after the other . The 6th and 8th and the 12th houses need to be very very strong . Shani , Rahu and Ketu and Kuja should be super strong and malefic in intention , kicking a man in the stomach and pushing him to the ground every time he tries to stand. He must reach a stage where one day he will scream in agony and then say " God , enough , I have had enough . Now I want you . " . That is the start of the journey towards God . There is no other way . This is the only way . The seeds of Spirituality is planted in the soul when all the dross of the Material is burnt ( Dross is a mass of solid impurities floating on a molten metal . what remains after the impurities are removed is pure Metal . Be it gold or platinum .)
One Glance on the Moon in the 12th and the other on the 5th was enough to drive this man to the forest . Assessment of the Horoscope is over . Today is a Saturday , I bow down to that almighty force , He can burn , Shoka Moha , Lobha, Daitya kopa Thapa in one life time . Lord Shani, You are the greatest amoungst the 9 .
Through hard work and spiritual practices, a person gets honor and dignity. The lazy one who puts in no efforts is like a fool who allows salt to be spilled on the wounds of his misfortunes. The idler depending only on fate, achieves nothing. - K.N.Rao ji
The father is visiting his son's house today. Lord Shani would bless the people who worship Sun today apart from SuryaNarayana himself. So, Let's all bow down to the Aditya, who is the epicenter of this universe. Without whom there is no light, no vitality, no spiritual knowledge.
well Said AstroSonu Ji . B.T.W. Mel C is great . Good video . Thank you .
Through hard work and spiritual practices, a person gets honor and dignity. The lazy one who puts in no efforts is like a fool who allows salt to be spilled on the wounds of his misfortunes. The idler depending only on fate, achieves nothing. - K.N.Rao ji
The father is visiting his son's house today. Lord Shani would bless the people who worship Sun today apart from SuryaNarayana himself. So, Let's all bow down to the Aditya, who is the epicenter of this universe. Without whom there is no light, no vitality, no spiritual knowledge.
"Japakusum Sankasham KAshyapeyam Mahadyutim, Tamognam Sarvapapagnam Pranatosmi Diwakaram "
Na Aham Karta, Shri Hari Karta
Dear Astrosonu,
So True.And see it was your 1333 post if we add up 1333 it comes to 10....1 is number of the Supreme Sun.
Regards
Kunal Bhardwaj
see in forest mummy duck is going to water pond for swimming means - daddy duck and baby ducks is going in the backside of mummy duck and jumping in water. Not looking this side not looking that side. Simply jumping.
If Chandra is conjunct with Shani,
If chandra is in the Navamsha of Kuja or Shani and is aspected By Shani
If Chandra's Dispositor is neither conjunct with any planet nor aspected by any planet except Shani
Then the native will renunciate the material and seek solace in the spiritual world.
Comment :
In olden times, Sanyasis had more command and respect than the kings. In the days of yore, a Pravrajya yoga was equivalent to a first class Raja Yoga. This yoga gave a individual the power to understand the ultimate truth and also gave him the power to guide the others to the right path. The urge to know the ultimate truth emanates from Lord Shani when he afflicts when he afflicts the Moon. Please note that If guru, Chandra and the Lagna are aspected by Shani and Guru occupies the 9th house, all other factors being equal the person will go on to be a founder of a new system of Philosophy. When Shani occupies the 9th house and is not aspected by any other planet , and Shani is strong , owning Good houses , He will . all other factors being equal , join a holy order.
Another point I want to mention. The planetary strength decides the Sect of renunciation the individual will align with . It could range from a satvic sect like ISCON , to a sect of Naga Baba's ....... or even the Agoras . Evaluate the strength of the planet before you pronounce a verdict .
Note this point carefully : Ravi, Shani , Rahu , Ketu , and the 12th lord,...... all the usual suspects are seperative planets . When they influence the 2nd(Family) the 4th lord (Home) and the 12th ( The end of everything ) the person has a good chance to say bye to the material and start a journey to the Spiritual.
That was a nimita well read Kunal.. I didnt notice..
Regards
Sonu
kunalbhardwaj27 wrote:
by astrosonu » Fri Jan 14, 2011 11:00 pm
The father is visiting his son's house today. Lord Shani would bless the people who worship Sun today apart from SuryaNarayana himself. So, Let's all bow down to the Aditya, who is the epicenter of this universe. Without whom there is no light, no vitality, no spiritual knowledge.
"Japakusum Sankasham KAshyapeyam Mahadyutim, Tamognam Sarvapapagnam Pranatosmi Diwakaram "
Na Aham Karta, Shri Hari Karta
Dear Astrosonu,
So True.And see it was your 1333 post if we add up 1333 it comes to 10....1 is number of the Supreme Sun.
Astrosonu ji , Look at the horoscope from the Moon . The moon is with the 9th lord and the 8th lord of Mantra recitation. This Shani aspects the 10th lord and finally Shukra the 5th lord aspects the 5th from a Upachaya house . What's more . Budha the lord of Chandra is in the 9th house , totally unafflicted . . Yes you are the choosen one
But serious renunciation is not possible because You are a family man
Trust this help's
Through hard work and spiritual practices, a person gets honor and dignity. The lazy one who puts in no efforts is like a fool who allows salt to be spilled on the wounds of his misfortunes. The idler depending only on fate, achieves nothing. - K.N.Rao ji
Thanks for the reading Deepak. I think what you said makes sense.
astroboy wrote:Good day Astrosonu Ji,
Astrosonu ji , Look at the horoscope from the Moon . The moon is with the 9th lord and the 8th lord of Mantra recitation. This Shani aspects the 10th lord and finally Shukra the 5th lord aspects the 5th from a Upachaya house . What's more . Budha the lord of Chandra is in the 9th house , totally unafflicted . . Yes you are the choosen one
But serious renunciation is not possible because You are a family man
I have just one question, and I will really be glad if you reply. What does my chart say: will I ever be spiritual, and if so, truly spiritual or pseudo spiritual?
My birth details: 14th July 1980, 1:36 pm, Kolkata.
Like I have said In the past, the 5th and the 9th house are the mains bolts in the machine of spirituality . If you see your horoscope you will discover the conjunction of Shani and Guru sitting in the 11th aspecting the 5th house . This Shani is in a badaka stana and is in a enemy sign . He is not going to do you any favours .
My biggest concern is Rahu + Moon combination in the 10th house . This is in my opinion the biggest stumbling block in your whole life . This Rahu is the biggest trouble creator in the whole chart . Trust me on this . What makes matters worse is that they are both in Ashlesha Nakshatra . Ashlesha is ruled by Budha who is the significator for intellect . The mind is thus afflicted . Please do not get me wrong Basab, I do not mean to hurt you . Rahu in Ashlesha nakshatra along with the moon makes the mind run like a snake . It cannot go straight . It moves like a snake . I have mentioned before that the Amsha of a Snake is more in Ashlesha Nakshatra .
We all know what Rahu can Do . He will always make you think differently about God . I dont have to say much to you . You are a well learned person with a longer experience than me . But I say that unless you tackle Rahu . "Pure" Spirituality is a distant dream. Rahu will make you fluctuate time and again , "Is this right ? It may not be right, Is God there ? May be he is not ...... Is this the right path ? It might not be" ....... I think you get the point .
I feel that you do indulge in Spirituality , but there is no real impetus to work more towards it . You flirt on the surface , But Rahu does not allow you to go deep .
I thus say that Shani's aspect on the 5th and his conjunction in Guru make you think spirituality ........ But Rahu stops all . More over Shani and Guru in a Badaka stana ...... Guru being the 6th lord along with the 5th will never allow you to settle on one ideology .
Trust this helps ,
Through hard work and spiritual practices, a person gets honor and dignity. The lazy one who puts in no efforts is like a fool who allows salt to be spilled on the wounds of his misfortunes. The idler depending only on fate, achieves nothing. - K.N.Rao ji
Deepakji, Kindly see the books of Sh Katweji, a great astrologer of Nagpur for Rahu+ Moon, you will change your opinion. Please see the chart of Mahatma Gandhi. regards anu
A person should not be too honest. Straight trees are cut first and honest people are screwed first.
“Reasoning with a drunkard is like
Going under water with a torch to seek for a drowning man.”
Hope you are doing fine . Thank you for another good book. I really appreciate you knowledge .
Please read my point once again .
My biggest concern is Rahu + Moon combination in the 10th house . This is in my opinion the biggest stumbling block in your whole life . This Rahu is the biggest trouble creator in the whole chart . Trust me on this . What makes matters worse is that they are both in Ashlesha Nakshatra . Ashlesha is ruled by Budha who is the significator for intellect . The mind is thus afflicted . Please do not get me wrong Basab, I do not mean to hurt you . Rahu in Ashlesha nakshatra along with the moon makes the mind run like a snake . It cannot go straight . It moves like a snake . I have mentioned before that the Amsha of a Snake is more in Ashlesha Nakshatra .
That was what I wrote,
Gandhi's Moon is in Ashlesha . Rahu is in Pushya . That makes a whole lot of difference . The main point is that Guru sits in the 7th and aspects the lagna . That is why Gandhi was Gandhi . Please note ...... Its not what we think about our selves in this materialistic world that matters ......... but what other people think of us .
B.T.W. There is a huge lacunae in Gandhi's lagna . Note the degree of the lagna is 0 deg 21 . That its'self is a point of contention .
Why do you think Gandhi got shot ?? .
Through hard work and spiritual practices, a person gets honor and dignity. The lazy one who puts in no efforts is like a fool who allows salt to be spilled on the wounds of his misfortunes. The idler depending only on fate, achieves nothing. - K.N.Rao ji
by aseem82 » Sat Jan 15, 2011 2:10 pm
Dear Deepakji
I have often chatted with basabji...I don't think his mind is afflicted
You make it sound, like I have accused him of having a unsound mind .
I have never said that any where in my post . Please read my post again . We are talking about Spirituality . Pure and simple .
And just because I said that "a mind moves like a snake" does not mean that a person is stupid . I hold the snake to be one of the most brillant creatures in the animal world .
Aseem ji , The question was about Spirituality ,
by Basab » Sat Jan 15, 2011 12:22 pm
Astroboy,
I have just one question, and I will really be glad if you reply. What does my chart say: will I ever be spiritual, and if so, truly spiritual or pseudo spiritual?
My birth details: 14th July 1980, 1:36 pm, Kolkata.
Your assessment proves my point ,
by aseem82 » Sat Jan 15, 2011 2:10 pm
Further this combination also gives a man interest in entertainment world or maya or glamour world in which he has keen interest.
Trust this helps.
Best regard's .
Through hard work and spiritual practices, a person gets honor and dignity. The lazy one who puts in no efforts is like a fool who allows salt to be spilled on the wounds of his misfortunes. The idler depending only on fate, achieves nothing. - K.N.Rao ji
I want to make one point very clear . I do not hold any combination as bad or good . It depends on which side of the fence you are on . Astrologers down the ages have been asked questions related to the material . The focus is on the material and nothing else . But the sages in their wisdom also came up with a lot of Yogas for Renunciation . No where have they said that a yoga for Renuciation is bad . In fact they equated it to a Raja yoga . Please understand that a yoga for renunciation might block a good Raja yoga for making money . That does not mean that it is bad . If it is bad for the material ....... Its always good for the soul . And in the end , that is what matters . It all depends on what we want . simple as that .
Through hard work and spiritual practices, a person gets honor and dignity. The lazy one who puts in no efforts is like a fool who allows salt to be spilled on the wounds of his misfortunes. The idler depending only on fate, achieves nothing. - K.N.Rao ji
. one airline promises 72 virgins once you land 
