Why does God play this silly game?

[vox]

Ancient Creation Myths - Uncorrupted by subsequent religious institutions - reveal the process and the nature of Spirit.
This thread simply reveals the fact the the latter traditions wiped this knowledge from mass awareness....

It may be safe to say GOD Is that one vast holographic organism. All. Fine...

But we are IT's expressions; we are IT Incarnated. It's that simple - Involution (of Spirit into matter) > Evolution (the Return of). That's Why there's psychism, magick and all the rest. It's this underlying ocean of conscious energy. It probably underlies Prana itself...

As you know, Everything is composed of this underlying energy. That is the ultimate end point and you won't find a guy with long white hair anywhere in there.

So again, when we pray we are really praying (etc) to our own Higher Self...which is closer to that higher density (ocean of pure conscious energy) sometimes called 7th or 8th Density ("heaven").
It's still a holographic Whole however; Each Realm Needs the other to function in Completeness. It completes a circuit.

In another light, we are like cells (kinda like neurotransmitters imo) of Gaia or the Earth's Spirit.

So there's pain and pleasure in our land of duality. It happens because WE are playing the Game. Man, is the one to put labels on things and events.
WE Make morals etc.... There was and is nothing moral in cold hard old time evolution and or the law of the jungle.

WE bring a little (he)art to it.

I think confusion is due to dualities. This "here and there" thing. Can't forget Everything is composed of that Same underlying energy. Right Now.... Get it?

So it's up to US.

I suppose some may be thinking of Pre destiny and the Script. If so, then there's nothing to remedial measures... you are just going through the motions.

Maybe I'll follow up on this last thought if I don't get flamed.

[purohits]

Dear Vox,

IMO

You said-
"As you know, Everything is composed of this underlying energy."

I tend to think the same way.

However,

You said that - WE play, WE make, We label ....
So, what do you think is the trigger for all this, AT THE FIRST INSTANCE, in the background of eternity(eternal journey) whether in manifest and unmanifest state. Is it ever possible to get to fully understand WHY we ever did anything ?

I would only think and accept the Dependency on the Underlying energy(we can name it whatever). So, we have a QUALITY(nature) that is inherent and unique to each of us (may be some will have similar quality, qualitatively and quantitately similar/dissimilar and for that reason can be categorized into category ABC..N). Though we are qualitatively and quantitatively SOMETHING but need and DEPEND on something ELSE which is underlying US/everything. So, I feel ONCE dependent is ALWAYS dependent.

So, I always look up to and seek support of the OTHER/SOMETHING ELSE on which I depend for my every actions/inactions DEPENDING on my inherent nature (NOT MY EXISTENCE, as I EXIST ALWAYS). The support I seek from the OTHER/SOMETHING ELSE reflects my inherenet nature.

Though, I tend to agree that I make, I play, I do everthing that i do, I cannot without that OTHER underlying energy. I aleast, as of now, cannot imagine My existence standalone without resting on the underlying energy.

Thanks & Regards

Sridhar

[purohits]

Dear Mahesh,

You Said
"But, I wonder how many, at least in this forum, have really seen God and His style of
functioning directly? (If so, it is worth sharing that info to every body who questions.
If that direct info is avaialble, I am sure atleast some of the present assumptions
would be surprisingly wrong.)"

IMO, we all have and ARE seeing GOD and his fuctioning directly. MAY BE a Lower/Lesser form of GOD or his "Lower Functioning".

IMO, those who are seeking to experience the GOD/Whatever Name, are ONLY trying to see/experience his NEXT better/higher form compared to the one which they are experiencing, which will depend on the seeker's direction of journey.

Or,
Can I ask myself what form of GOD will make me accept the form as GOD? This probably can help us in our journey.

Thanks & Regards

Sridhar

[purohits]

Dear Mahesh,

You have quoted only half of the sentence. The full sentence would convey little more of what I wanted to say.

[quote] This realization and visibility is restricted to that individual only but not for people around.
It sounds like a mystery and nothing can be verified by a second person on practical plane.[/quote]

IMO, what you said above is the whole point. IMO, there is no need for another to verifiy my experiences to make it real. Realization comes out of experience and it will be different for each individual. One cannot make another live his experience or make another express their expressions. At best, someone else can have similar experience and expression. To me, imagniation is also an experience hence, real.

How do you measure sorrow, pain, happiness etc. Or can we say that its not existing/experienced because the same cannot be perceived exactly the same way as the other or because it cannot be measured on an accepted physically visible scale.

All great souls have giving us their experiences and expressions. My experiences need not be the same/similar to that of others. However, as I evolve, the chances that my experiences(only if the god/whatever wants me to experience) are similar will be high/certain because what is experienced by them is still the same but at a different time and space.

IMO, its all about various energies, its attributes, our understanding and interaction with them, our acceptance of such energies as something we depend always upon, developing our ability to retreive and channelize such energies repeatedly to acheive our next desired experience. And then, packaging and giving it a name and form(if required), for ease of use.

At the end of the day, we can customize gods, if you so desire. He will not mind. Its all up to us. But, I prefer to use legacy that is left for us all.

Thanks & Regards

Sridhar

Can I ask myself what form of GOD will make me accept the form as GOD?

[vox]

Let me share an experience. I was tuned into the "zone" which seemed to have been an OBE or lucid dream (direct from the waking state). I was "there", floating body-less in that sea of electric blue-ish white light, all knowing and in a kind of perpetual ecstasy.
The one major question going through my "mind" was whether to...(re) incarnate or not. There's the obvious pull for tangible sensations....
And as the channeled entities called Cassiopaeans said, "Play in the mud and you'll get dirty".
Something... as to Nothing... or rather something more.
This reflects the role of creative energy itself as well. It just does what it does. Create for the hell of it.

I myself think sacred geometry is revealing in all this. Like the Torus...
From zero point to the expansion outwards and back. This is the cosmological model.
Thus, unfortunately perhaps, we are dragged along with it's role or game....

[purohits]

[quote]Thus, unfortunately perhaps, we are dragged along with it's role or game....[/quote]

I am inclined to agree.

Do we see dependency whether we like it or not. I think so.

Also, which way we get dragged(our co-ordinates) depends wholely on the Inherent Nature/Intrinsic Quality of each of Us(souls). And, we continue to be dragged, made to project(manifest) until we reach the bay(energy field) which is similar to our Inherent Nature/Intrinsic quality and only then we are perfectly aligned with underlying energies. At that point we are perfectly comfortable and in harmony.

Thanks & Regards

Sridhar

[vox]

Ya know, this is the last place one would expect to see a thread like this. With the rich literary heritage of spirituality available....

So what about the Tibetan Book of Living and Dying?

Or the idea that "God burned his bridges" when manifesting into matter...

From my own dreams and books like the above, it appears it is mostly us. Karma is what We believe it to be. So be careful with the guilt. All afterlife phantasms and fears are, according to the Tibetan schools, are of one's own creation.
If so, perhaps, as I've been opining, the astrological alignments we end up with are either random or due to a form of Self judgment.

Now, what about this idea of a grand Now moment? That linear time is an illusion and it's more of a holographic, organic and cosmic Now. This is found in traditional sources but don't ask me what page....

So if it's a Now...a Now of this one vast organic cosmic Being, or God, it would appear that it is omniscient. Fine, but what about the literature that says this Being to is evolving. That this is the reason WE evolve as well... as in being dragged along.

Logically anyway, it would appear this Being already knows the outcome. So, in the vernacular, WTF?
Seems kind of pointless........

And that my friends, is why there's an old phrase by some unknown author still employed by certain thinkers, "the crime of creation".

But I've heard from some researches that Man is an experiment. That this God being does let things loose that are unpredictable, to learn from.

I had a discussion with a co-worker yesterday about stuff like this. Seems we simply can't pin these matters down while here in 3D awareness. It seems to raise circular arguments, paradox and irony.

What I've been doing lately is imagining nothing exists but the sky, trees, celestials, birds, water and so forth. That I'm the only human...or that I'm not even that but have various organs and glands that perceive things (pineal). Try it for a spell....

[sanjayk1265]

so we can talk silly on this forum, simple

[vox]

I think traditions have their silliness as well. There's one reflection by some chinese monk bandied about which I think may tower above much deep thought and speculation, "chop wood, carry water".

[astroboy]

Wood is chopped. Water is carried. Life happens.

[sanjayk1265]

Dear Friends,
Because we play dirtiest games with god every movement.