Respected Astroboyji, Ramananji, Raoji, and other respected astrologers:
I would like to know regarding my financial position from here on in. My D.O.B for your reference is 22.1.1979, 9:15 a.m., Palghat, Kerala. I am worried regarding finance most of the times as the money is very hard to come by for me from my experience.
Astroboyji, as you know I have also exalted Guru though Vakri being owner of 2nd and 11th in 6th. I have also some kind of positioning of Bachan's horo with respect to Guru and Moon and Nakshatra. Though my father is getting easy money and rich also to certain extent, even a single penny is very hard to come by in my case and I do not want a single penny from my father as I am very adamant in that case. Even after his period, even if somebody else take his money, I have no issue, but I do not want his money.
The main difference between me and Bacchan is his venus is in 8th and my venus is in 10th, which gives everything to Mars and to Sun then. So, everything is going to sun. Since bacchan's venus is in 8th, it is giving everything to him.
I am trying every month on lotteries, I mean once in a month so that in case if I win a good amount, I can use that money to buy own home, rest to give to poor and downtrodden and also to keep quite for rest of life as I have lost interest in everything. Though, I have not won a single paise till date. I am actually forced to work because I have no other reasons to meet my end and also to some extent to family and to help others around me whatever I can according to my strength.
What I want to know here is, my financial position will always be like this? I mean daridraya-poverty or is there any chance of winning lotteries in future or a good financial prospect in future? Do anybody of you see any such yoga?
I am asking this especially in view of the fact that as long as I am in a body, I need money to meet my ends as well as to help others as well and for this, I need constant money coming in every month. Also, to buy own home etc for parents if possibly I could win a lottery, I can buy a home in their name and to contribute more towards the poor.
Please and please give a clear picture regarding my financial prospects and please kindly be open reg. the same.
Regards,
Narayanan
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Narayanji, The Jupiter of mega star is not only in own nakshtra, pushkeramsha but vargottam also, in sign of exaltation . Moreover his chart is quite different from your chart. Saturn and Sun exchange in your chart, and exalted Mars is very good for sadhana. Things will improve a lot in November[ second half] 2012 on job front. regardsinancial position
by Narayan » 051211
Respected Astroboyji, Ramananji, Raoji, and other respected astrologers:
I would like to know regarding my financial position from here on in. My D.O.B for your reference is 22.1.1979, 9:15 a.m., Palghat, Kerala. I am worried regarding finance most of the times as the money is very hard to come by for me from my experience.
Astroboyji, as you know I have also exalted Guru though Vakri being owner of 2nd and 11th in 6th. I have also some kind of positioning of Bachan's horo with respect to Guru and Moon and Nakshatra. Though my father is getting easy money and rich also to certain extent, even a single penny is very hard to come by in my case and I do not want a single penny from my father as I am very adamant in that case. Even after his period, even if somebody else take his money, I have no issue, but I do not want his money.
The main difference between me and Bacchan is his venus is in 8th and my venus is in 10th, which gives everything to Mars and to Sun then. So, everything is going to sun. Since bacchan's venus is in 8th, it is giving everything to him
A person should not be too honest. Straight trees are cut first and honest people are screwed first.
“Reasoning with a drunkard is like
Going under water with a torch to seek for a drowning man.”
“Reasoning with a drunkard is like
Going under water with a torch to seek for a drowning man.”
Anuradhaji:
First of all thanks for your reply. Yes, I understand Bacchan's horoscope is quite different from mine, but we have some similarity like same lagna with kethu and rahu at node points plus Guru in 6th house exalted plus moon in 9th in swathi nakshtra. His is Straight Guru, mine is Vakri which I feel is more good than a straight guru because it indicates debt by a guru towards me. This Guru is vakri for me because from past births, I have done guru seva for long long period of time. The Guru is Vakri for me even in pre previous birth. This Vakri Guru is continuing on now for third birth consecutively.
Anuradhaji, Sadhna is all okay, but since one is in this world of mind and as long as body is there, one needs money for everything at least to meet ends and for that consistent money should keep coming in every month. Nothing comes here for free neither does anybody give anything free.
Regarding Job front, for the last 8 years, my employers have virtually exploited me, somebody giving money to me, some even did not pay me. Even if I am getting payment, I am getting it very delayed etc..etc. plus so many other issues at job front from the part of employer that it is more than frustrating to keep the job going in search of some money. Hence, I have stopped job at present by 30 November, 2011. I do not have job right now. Moreover, I have no interest in doing anything.
So, what I want to know is how long this song will keep going on? If I have to have a job, I expect full cooperation from part of employer sincerity, honesty in all aspects. What is the thing in doing a job when the employer is more lenient towards exploitation and all kinds of dishonestness at job front?
See, there is no need for any sadhna from my experience. It is beyond the point of any sadhna. When it happens, it happens automatically without any signals at a jerk. I have not come thus far by any of my effort. It is a divine wish because divine grace has to start flowing inwardly in u. It will start slowly...some day, u will know that u are part of divine, that's all as the mind will not be functioning as it was earlier and after sometime, it will stop completely. It is a slow process by divine and most of the times it is extremely painful in many ways, be it the case of Swami Vivekananda, Ramana Maharishi, Ramakrishna Paramahansa or be it anybody, most of them have undergone extremely painful life before divine intervention came. .
It cannot be reached by any sadhna, let be very clear about that. Sadhna, u can say is only a process, but how long u will keep doing sadhna? After sometime, the same sadha also will get tiresome.
The sadhna is useless unless the mind becomes still, though having said that, the mind will keep running till time divine graces grabs u completely. It is not possible to mind stay still unless divine grace grabs u completely. Making the mind stand still once and forever is not an easy process at all. Let me tell u very frankly as the mind has been through thousands and thousands and thousands of bodies, from whereby it has inherited several samsakaras and vasanas and it will all show those tendencies because all these things are inhibited there. All the dirts which one has accumulated in thousands and thousands and thousands of bodies should go first from down bottom up to Saharasara. After that only, divine energy will flow, that also it is not possible to remove all those dirts other than by divine grace. It should be an empty shallow for divine energy to flow properly.
So, mind will always try to keep running away from the truth. It is also painful because u are teaching mind something which on its own does not have acknowledged or known it before. Mind will stay for some time, again it will go away, then again it will come back and stay and again it will go away....so, all the worships and sadhnas are to make this mind stand still. But, above and all that, divine grace has to shower inwardly in one to make that stand still completely, which cannot be done by any human effort.
His holiness sri sri Bharathi Thirtha Swamigal at Sringeri, an avathar of Lord Shiva, Anjaneya, and Devi use to say this repeatedly again and again that if you are able to make the mind still even for 5 minutes, that sadhna or worship is more holier than the other worships whereby u will be doing some worships and the mind will be at some other place.
It is a long long long long process, it will take its own time. So, until the grace dawns, we have to keep doing what we are doing.
After that, what divine will do, u will also do that, that's all.
First of all thanks for your reply. Yes, I understand Bacchan's horoscope is quite different from mine, but we have some similarity like same lagna with kethu and rahu at node points plus Guru in 6th house exalted plus moon in 9th in swathi nakshtra. His is Straight Guru, mine is Vakri which I feel is more good than a straight guru because it indicates debt by a guru towards me. This Guru is vakri for me because from past births, I have done guru seva for long long period of time. The Guru is Vakri for me even in pre previous birth. This Vakri Guru is continuing on now for third birth consecutively.
Anuradhaji, Sadhna is all okay, but since one is in this world of mind and as long as body is there, one needs money for everything at least to meet ends and for that consistent money should keep coming in every month. Nothing comes here for free neither does anybody give anything free.
Regarding Job front, for the last 8 years, my employers have virtually exploited me, somebody giving money to me, some even did not pay me. Even if I am getting payment, I am getting it very delayed etc..etc. plus so many other issues at job front from the part of employer that it is more than frustrating to keep the job going in search of some money. Hence, I have stopped job at present by 30 November, 2011. I do not have job right now. Moreover, I have no interest in doing anything.
So, what I want to know is how long this song will keep going on? If I have to have a job, I expect full cooperation from part of employer sincerity, honesty in all aspects. What is the thing in doing a job when the employer is more lenient towards exploitation and all kinds of dishonestness at job front?
See, there is no need for any sadhna from my experience. It is beyond the point of any sadhna. When it happens, it happens automatically without any signals at a jerk. I have not come thus far by any of my effort. It is a divine wish because divine grace has to start flowing inwardly in u. It will start slowly...some day, u will know that u are part of divine, that's all as the mind will not be functioning as it was earlier and after sometime, it will stop completely. It is a slow process by divine and most of the times it is extremely painful in many ways, be it the case of Swami Vivekananda, Ramana Maharishi, Ramakrishna Paramahansa or be it anybody, most of them have undergone extremely painful life before divine intervention came. .
It cannot be reached by any sadhna, let be very clear about that. Sadhna, u can say is only a process, but how long u will keep doing sadhna? After sometime, the same sadha also will get tiresome.
The sadhna is useless unless the mind becomes still, though having said that, the mind will keep running till time divine graces grabs u completely. It is not possible to mind stay still unless divine grace grabs u completely. Making the mind stand still once and forever is not an easy process at all. Let me tell u very frankly as the mind has been through thousands and thousands and thousands of bodies, from whereby it has inherited several samsakaras and vasanas and it will all show those tendencies because all these things are inhibited there. All the dirts which one has accumulated in thousands and thousands and thousands of bodies should go first from down bottom up to Saharasara. After that only, divine energy will flow, that also it is not possible to remove all those dirts other than by divine grace. It should be an empty shallow for divine energy to flow properly.
So, mind will always try to keep running away from the truth. It is also painful because u are teaching mind something which on its own does not have acknowledged or known it before. Mind will stay for some time, again it will go away, then again it will come back and stay and again it will go away....so, all the worships and sadhnas are to make this mind stand still. But, above and all that, divine grace has to shower inwardly in one to make that stand still completely, which cannot be done by any human effort.
His holiness sri sri Bharathi Thirtha Swamigal at Sringeri, an avathar of Lord Shiva, Anjaneya, and Devi use to say this repeatedly again and again that if you are able to make the mind still even for 5 minutes, that sadhna or worship is more holier than the other worships whereby u will be doing some worships and the mind will be at some other place.
It is a long long long long process, it will take its own time. So, until the grace dawns, we have to keep doing what we are doing.
After that, what divine will do, u will also do that, that's all.
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For example, u can say for the sake of saying that I have been doing sadhna for the last 150 years or so. But, who wanted u to do that sadhna? There should be something which prompted u, who was that who prompted that? Ramana Maharishi was also doing sadhana in his previous birth. But, in the body of Ramana, Ramana Maharishi did not do any sadhana, but it should be wise to say that Almighty decided to take Ramana Maharishi up in his fold completely.
Ramana Maharishi in many of his poems used to say that "Oh! Arunachala, you have been so merciful on me and it is because of you that I am what I am."
So, Ramana Maharishi experienced a feeling of death at the age of 17 though later Ramana Maharishi discovered that it is the body that was dead and he was standing still in front of divine completely naked in full limelight. Ramana Maharishi after that was most of the times in real consciousness that Maharishi hardly felt a body or indriyas or even need of food, cloth, shelter, or money as Ramana Maharishi hardly felt hungry or thirst or feeling of sensations. It was after the divine grace, Ramana Maharishi most of the times was in the state of Samadhi for 3-4 years at a time, especially in Vashistha Guhai where Maharishi was in, but it was not sadhana anymore, but it was the very natural state.
This is the difference, the sadhana u were doing before with the mind and after revelation by god's grace, the very natural state u were always experiencing the infinitness.
That's why, from time to time, I keep stressing on the aspect of having experience. No matter u study crores of books, it is all wasteless because u will be feeding all that in memory. But, in experience, it altogether different beyond all books.
Sadhana is a process, but the Nirvana and Maha Niravana state or the result is divine wish. You cannot reach the result or the state by the process. Only if divine wishes u can have that state. Are you able to understand? Or till time divine wishes, we have to keep the sadhana going. But then, the mind will get tiresome after some years of sadana. There is no activity or sadna which is not tiresome which u do through mind's help or by remaining in mind because mind is "Kshana Bhanguram" which is limited, it cannot give that infitiness because it in itself is finite.
That's the reason why many of people are saying that I am doing meditation or yoga for lots and lots of years, but I am not able to experience. It is because divine wish has not intervened. It is not your wish, but his wish matters. It takes not even a second if he decides whether u have done sadhana or not.
So, as long as the mind is even slightly active, we need money at least to meet the ends regularly. I am not yet to the point of stilling the mind completely, though have progressed by his grace from what I was earlier, that only I know. So, till that time, I also need money like every other person for me to meet my ends.
So now, let us not divert the point here. I am asking about money coming in constantly for me till time I have body consciousness and a body. Do you see anything that if I do not have a job from here on in, will u see any other sources of money coming in through some lotteries or some other way? or it will be the same story till the end of life?
Please somebody kindly give me replies frankly.
Regards,
Narayanan
Ramana Maharishi in many of his poems used to say that "Oh! Arunachala, you have been so merciful on me and it is because of you that I am what I am."
So, Ramana Maharishi experienced a feeling of death at the age of 17 though later Ramana Maharishi discovered that it is the body that was dead and he was standing still in front of divine completely naked in full limelight. Ramana Maharishi after that was most of the times in real consciousness that Maharishi hardly felt a body or indriyas or even need of food, cloth, shelter, or money as Ramana Maharishi hardly felt hungry or thirst or feeling of sensations. It was after the divine grace, Ramana Maharishi most of the times was in the state of Samadhi for 3-4 years at a time, especially in Vashistha Guhai where Maharishi was in, but it was not sadhana anymore, but it was the very natural state.
This is the difference, the sadhana u were doing before with the mind and after revelation by god's grace, the very natural state u were always experiencing the infinitness.
That's why, from time to time, I keep stressing on the aspect of having experience. No matter u study crores of books, it is all wasteless because u will be feeding all that in memory. But, in experience, it altogether different beyond all books.
Sadhana is a process, but the Nirvana and Maha Niravana state or the result is divine wish. You cannot reach the result or the state by the process. Only if divine wishes u can have that state. Are you able to understand? Or till time divine wishes, we have to keep the sadhana going. But then, the mind will get tiresome after some years of sadana. There is no activity or sadna which is not tiresome which u do through mind's help or by remaining in mind because mind is "Kshana Bhanguram" which is limited, it cannot give that infitiness because it in itself is finite.
That's the reason why many of people are saying that I am doing meditation or yoga for lots and lots of years, but I am not able to experience. It is because divine wish has not intervened. It is not your wish, but his wish matters. It takes not even a second if he decides whether u have done sadhana or not.
So, as long as the mind is even slightly active, we need money at least to meet the ends regularly. I am not yet to the point of stilling the mind completely, though have progressed by his grace from what I was earlier, that only I know. So, till that time, I also need money like every other person for me to meet my ends.
So now, let us not divert the point here. I am asking about money coming in constantly for me till time I have body consciousness and a body. Do you see anything that if I do not have a job from here on in, will u see any other sources of money coming in through some lotteries or some other way? or it will be the same story till the end of life?
Please somebody kindly give me replies frankly.
Regards,
Narayanan
