Failed Again&Again & Again - Is it due to Punarphoo Dosha ?

[somerville]

Hello Shilpa Ji & Learned Members,

<< It's ALL Over !!!>> AND IS THE WORST OVER ???

What could have been the possible reason ?

My DOB : 02- Dec-1980; Time : 18:07; Place-Hyderabad

This could be a case-study for many forum members. The saturn transit in 5th house(Virgo) didn't let anything materialize at the marriage front in the last 2 1/2 years and even leaving the 5ht house it led to misery . It broke 3 relationships .. It has really affected my soul.. Essentially is it due to it's aspect on 7th house from 5th on SUN,Mercury or the palcement of 7th lord in 8th ?

Also do you think the double effect could have been due to Sade-Sati and Saturn Return ? Being a Yogkarak planet it turned out to be more of a BADHAK LORD.

Even Rahu pratyantra dasha's (aspect on 7th ) played the spoil-sport.

It has brought sorrow - would the transit in Libra do any good or does the chart indicate a COMPLETE DENIAL ?

Your analysis and response in this regard will be HIGHLY appreciated.

Thank you Shilpa Ji !!!

Somerville


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Hello Shilpa Ji,

Ref to the aforementioned email ...The girl who entered 2 months back in my life...everything was going smooth ..I indicated.proposed and she said yes ,but she also said she can't marry as she has some professional commitment ..and she's too young.. so this is on the verge of getting over...!

It's okay , but technically I wish to know Is it again due to Sade Sati and Saturn return in my 5th house (Virgo)- Why Life gives me such heebie-jeebies ? Is any planetary transit going to be favorable ever or shall I accept melancholy would be a part and parcel of my life .

Please advise !

My DOB : 02- Dec-1980; Time : 18:07; Place-Hyderabad
Her DOB : 25-Apr-1989 ; Time : 01:54 AM; Place- Aligarh (U.P)

Regards,

Somerville

[shilpa]

dear somerville,

--shani is afflicted by conjunction with Moon and a malefic for the chart.
so the transit of shani over your natal shani was not going to be easy for romance especially given that you are running Shani AD also.
natal and transitory shani were aspecting the 7th house.

--shani has left the 5th house and the location of your natal shani....and by may 2012, the shani AD would also have ended. Love life/ relationship issues should get better starting now and much better after may 2012.

--Nov 2012 may be very likely getting married when Venus whihc is strongly placed in own house in natal chart.....will be transitting over libra.....and you will be also running the AD of friendly Me.
Married life itself may require some effort in adjustment as 7th lord is Mars sitting in the 8th house.

--howev Mars is positive in navamsa, and aspects the 7th house of marriage, Venus exalted and 7th lord shani rather friendly.

Don;t worry time is better now and will be much better after may 2012.
You charts is overall quite OK for marraige and elationship in the light of periods ahead

regards

[somerville]

Thank you Shilpa Ji for the detailed analysis .I sincerely appreciate it .

This has once again sparkled a hope . My big question here is- Would Punarbhoo dosha create again a problem in fixing the marriaage or was it only effective as long as the saturn's transit was in the fifth house (Sat-Mon )for 2 1/2 years(that broke 2 love affairs and an engagement ) .

These series of episodes have made me a bit more circumspect . Do you see a love cum arrange or an arranged marriage ? That would be it .

Thank you again !!!!

Sincerely,

Somerville

[Humannature]

Somerville,
I read you previous posts where you were in depression and had to take help of yoga to get out of depression..After a breakup from a serious relationship and hurt from it, people tend not to get into another relationship or trust anyone else so quickly. You are brave and I feel you have a very positive outlook towards life, which is good but I have a feeling that just based on the dates and time frames given, as soon as u meet someone even a lil close to your heart you are in a hurry to figure out if it is that person!!!

In my opinion trying to understand which planet keeps you going in this aspect of your life (one relationship to another so quickly) might be helpful..
Even Shilpa ji said in her post in one of your previous queries that even if benefic, Saturn does not like to rush things..
Just a thought..

Shilpa ji,
In one of your previous posts you said he will MOST LIKELY get married before Jan 12, n now i see you are saying it is ONLY after May 2012.

You are saying period after may '12 because saturn return is done n saturn AD will also be over by then...but the last time when u predicted marriage most likely before Jan '12, did u not consider the saturn related factors??

[somerville]

Dear HN,

Good eye and point well taken . We're on the same page HN as I was keen to put this $64 thousand question straight-forth , however was a bit reluctant .

A) Saturn is also the 7th lord in Navamsa...Isn't it good for giving a marriage ?
B) In Lagna - Is Saturn aspecting the 7th house for good or is it afflicting it .
C) Isn't the 5th house afflicted due to it's conjunction with functional malefics planets (Jupiter- Moon )

OR

Is it due to RAVI - which is considered as a planet of separation in 7th ?

" Facts" : Whenever I've come accros Bhukti or pratyantra dasha of Saturn it has ALWAYS given me immense trouble, but EVERYTIME just before the end of it's period it sets me up with a NEW Direction and gives next to what I had desired and sometimes much more .

RAHU's placement is 3rd - Does that confer an inter-caste marriage ? Isn't this planet contributing in creating a mess by influencing , 7th ,9th and 11th house ? What's the Jam , what's the hunch and where's the connection .. Rahu in pratyanta was a bet for many...girl out of community and in association with Saturn's bhukti the complexion ..taste..etc ...and it exactly came that way ...but Which planet played the spoil-sport


Well said by experts, our stars don't compel they impel

Regards,

Somerville

[somerville]

ShilpaJI,

HN and I've a point here and if you could throw some light when you get a chance ?

Thanks & Regards,

Somerville

[shilpa]

Thank you Shilpa Ji for the detailed analysis .I sincerely appreciate it .

This has once again sparkled a hope . My big question here is- Would Punarbhoo dosha create again a problem in fixing the marriaage or was it only effective as long as the saturn's transit was in the fifth house (Sat-Mon )for 2 1/2 years(that broke 2 love affairs and an engagement ) .

These series of episodes have made me a bit more circumspect . Do you see a love cum arrange or an arranged marriage ? That would be it .

Thank you again !!!!

Sincerely,

Somerville

My friend don't get too hung-up on Punarboo dosha
a lot of these " dosha" terminologies coming from sanskrit and sound larger than life.

True.... Moon-sat conjunction causes problems...espeically at the mental level...and especially severe when shani was transitting over the natal shani-moon conjunct.....and the severest hit is taken by the those significations of the house that are most active at this point in life.....
the house is 5th and love/ romance that it also denotes was affected.
and further severe for you because you are running shani AD.

that Moon-shani conjunction will not DISAPPEAR from your chart....but will become passive ( or much less active) going froward.
a lot of the intensity is reduced when shani moved out of virgo.....
further reduction in intesity will be seen when the shani AD ends in may 2012.

as for love marriage....yes a very strong possibility ...given that shani has released it''s hold on the 5th house ............marriage with some -one culturally diffrent....as Rahu aspects the 7th house of realtionship and Rahu is also transitting throuhg the 7th house of relationship now and until Jan/ Feb 2012.

I do see strong possibilities of love turning into arranged marriage in the time frames I stated before
regards

[patience19]

Hello Shilpa Ji & Learned Members,

<< It's ALL Over !!!>> AND IS THE WORST OVER ???

What could have been the possible reason ?

My DOB : 02- Dec-1980; Time : 18:07; Place-Hyderabad

This could be a case-study for many forum members. The saturn transit in 5th house(Virgo) didn't let anything materialize at the marriage front in the last 2 1/2 years and even leaving the 5ht house it led to misery . It broke 3 relationships .. It has really affected my soul.. Essentially is it due to it's aspect on 7th house from 5th on SUN,Mercury or the palcement of 7th lord in 8th ?

Also do you think the double effect could have been due to Sade-Sati and Saturn Return ? Being a Yogkarak planet it turned out to be more of a BADHAK LORD.

Even Rahu pratyantra dasha's (aspect on 7th ) played the spoil-sport.

It has brought sorrow - would the transit in Libra do any good or does the chart indicate a COMPLETE DENIAL ?

Your analysis and response in this regard will be HIGHLY appreciated.

Thank you Shilpa Ji !!!

Somerville


==========================================================================

Hello Shilpa Ji,

Ref to the aforementioned email ...The girl who entered 2 months back in my life...everything was going smooth ..I indicated.proposed and she said yes ,but she also said she can't marry as she has some professional commitment ..and she's too young.. so this is on the verge of getting over...!

It's okay , but technically I wish to know Is it again due to Sade Sati and Saturn return in my 5th house (Virgo)- Why Life gives me such heebie-jeebies ? Is any planetary transit going to be favorable ever or shall I accept melancholy would be a part and parcel of my life .

Please advise !

My DOB : 02- Dec-1980; Time : 18:07; Place-Hyderabad
Her DOB : 25-Apr-1989 ; Time : 01:54 AM; Place- Aligarh (U.P)

Regards,

Somerville

Dear Somerville,

Taurus was ascending aspected by Ravi & Budha at the time of your birth.

Current Maha-dasa of Guru who by virtue of 8th ,11th lordship & enemy of lagna lord Shukra stands to be a functional malefic. Hence Guru-Dasha will be less peaceful. Added to that you are in sade-sati from 5 years & will continue for next 2.5 years. The dasa of 8th lord + sade sati is enough for less manas-shanti.

Lagna lord Shukra being a karak for Mariage & relationships, carries the taint of 6th lordship of debts, addictions, litigation...etc and is also placed in own 6th....7th Lord Kuja (has no benefic aspect being placed in 8th) also carries 12th lordship of loss. (relationships, partnerships will suffer loss, quarrels, un-necessary expenditures)

Rahu (Maya) in 3rd is a sign that your desires are high.

I agree Sani is a yogakarak, but being a natural malefic & by nature will afflict areas governed by house / planet with whom he has sambandha. Here Ravi & Budha in 7th have aspect of Sani while Guru & Chandra share Kanya rasi with him. Sani's association with Chandra is least desirable.

Prayers to Sri Krishna Bhagwan & Lord Subramanya for progress in marriage settlement.

Best Regards...

[somerville]

Thank you Shilpa Ji, HN, patience19 for giving this insight.

Much appreciated for the valuable analysis !!!

Regards,

Somerville

[shikham]

Saturn placement in 5th houses causes limitations in love affairs. Further, Guru is 8th Lord of obstacles, so love affair is not advised.

Yes you are right. Sun and Mercury in 7th house is not good for marriage and marriage is considerably delayed.

Next year mercury period will start. Guru will shift to 7th house in may'12. Guru will influence natal degree of mercury in may and jun'12. So you are likely to get married at that time.

[somerville]

Hi Shikham,

Thanks for sharing you views. It transpicuously appears these planetary combinations and transits are creating barriers in reaching me the wedlock .

" Do you also see adversities in the married life too "?

I get lot of mixed views but the only thing I see in common from the experts and from your standpoint is that the last 2 quarters of 2012 is promising . Mercury in all the pratyantra dasha I've come across has so far given me the desired results and the effect (changes)and the transition of events are generally seen at end of Saturn period .

It has happened almost all the times, but i'm not sure it would happen in bhukti (antar-dasha) as well.

"Yes you are right. Sun and Mercury in 7th house is not good for marriage and marriage is considerably delayed. "

Sun (lord of 4th) and Mercury(lord of 5th and 2nd) Doesn't that bespeaks Raj-Yoga ?Combination of a quad + Trine in 7th ? (aspected by a Yogkarak) ?

[shikham]

Mercury in all the pratyantra dasha I've come across has so far given me the desired results and the effect (changes)and the transition of events are generally seen at end of Saturn period .

hi can you please elaborate on this?

[somerville]

Way back in 2008 , during Saturn's pratyantra I was under immense trouble both at the personal and the professional front and when Shani antarsasha was about to end, things materialized at the relationship front and I gained some success at the professional front and everything went in my favor . Happiness ,new direction and fructification of desires. This being one of the example.

I 've noticed if Shani is Yogkarak, it will change the direction and bring all bad but when it leaves it would take you to a point where you always wanted to be at . Shani knows more than what you desire . During this bhukti also, It has made me do which I also wanted to do and bad situation dragged me to the goal ,but through a different way . All I'd say, with trouble it has brought me gains as well , but may be what is lacking is internal happiness..

The question is Mercury too fast -gives what you want before it's arrival or Is Saturn too slow and gives everything when it goes )

So, if there's a book by the name " The Greatness of Lord Shani" I'm sure it must be backed by some solid facts

[Raveesh]

Somerville 2nd phase is over dont worry:i hope you have already sailed through the bad times now get ready for new