inter-caste marriage vs. marriage with a foreigner

[vhb]

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[swamykool]

Thanks VHB,

[Saindhavi]

Ambjig,

Sorry, I didn't come to this thread for quite some time. Your job situation should improve after Saturn becomes exalted in Libra from mid-November.

You can't have marriage abroad. Now is your marriage period, but Mars is obstructing your marriage as I said.

Regards

[ambjig]

Thanks saindhavi,,

But now then when will be the best time for me to get married ??? any particular time this Mays not obstructing me ??

Regards
jigs

[ambjig]

Hi AnhRaMoon,

i request you to make real horoscope of my birth.

I am now in much critical condition. At age 33( in fact 34 in short time) i am without job now from last 4 month and still single..

And i want to know the truth.. so plz do it for me.

Regards
jigs.
17-11-1977
17-00
jamnagar,
gujarat.

[Saindhavi]

Ambjig,

After 5th January 2012, you can get married in Oct 2012-2013 period and also in any period of Venus, but provided Mars is pacified.

[ambjig]

Hi, AnhRaMoon

I send you PM with my details as you mentioned in your msg.

waiting for answer of my 2 question.

Thanks

Regards
jignesh a.

[ambjig]

Hi Saindhavi

Ambjig,

After 5th January 2012, you can get married in Oct 2012-2013 period and also in any period of Venus, but provided Mars is pacified.

Means if i didnt get married till 5 jan 2012 next time will be oct 2012-2013 right ??

thanks for those date.

regards
jignesh a.

[swamykool]

Saindhavi. So please explain to me where did you get at least an approximate date of her wedding. or marriage??. If no one is born at that time on the coordinate, what grounds do you forecast made? I hope you have the courage to explain how that happened?? I explained to you from a position of esoterica that this man and how is his birth.

Dear AnhRaMoon,

You mean to say Ambjig has not been born yet??

swamykool

[ambjig]

AnhRaMoon

I sent you PM again. check that out plz.

Regards
jigs

[ambjig]

sent you PM again

Regards
jigs

[ambjig]

Anhramoon.

I mail you in [No Personal Contact Details on Public Forum]..

is this ok now ?

Regards
jigs

[anilesh47]

Dear Swamy coolji,

For me, Its too late to know about the combination of planets to marriage with foreigner. I have combo which substantiate to marriage with foreigner but I married with a indian girl. I have been married for 3 years. (If you would have told me about this combo three years ago then may be today's picture would be diffrent. I might be try to find a foreigner lady for marriage. )

Anywy I m just joking. I m happy with my wife. She is full of with elegance.

Regards
Nilesh

[swamykool]

Hi Anilesh,

I don't have your particulars. So unfortunately cannot confirm anything.

swamykool

[anilesh47]

Following is the link where you find my particulars.



http://www.lightonvedicastrology.com/ph ... 2&start=25


Nilesh

[astrolady]

Rahu in 6th house is good for sports and winning competitions and bad for enemies.
Rahu in 7th house in feminine signs is good for marriage as it gives early marriage and good life partner and in other signs it gives late marriage, problems in marriage,intercast marriage or illegal relationships.
Rahu in 9th house gives marriage to a foreigner or intercast as 9th house is the house of dharma so the placement of rahu (which symbolises foreign element) in 9th house will make a person connect with other dharma.
Rahu in 2nd and 12th house gives eye diseases as 2nd house and 12th house indicate eyes of the kalpurush.This rahu doesn't give a person success in his place of birth but rather a person has to go to far off lands for success, this rahu makes a person famous, ambitious,courageous,valiant and friendly but it gives two marriages.
So these are the effects of rahu in 6th, 7th,12th and ofcourse 9th house.

[ambjig]

I wrote a moderator, knowing that this post will not miss it, I do not know. that you include one as a forum on and off the other? I have not seen this anywhere else.

I need to check it out on dates the events of your life. Please send any information with date and time of the event. I still look at the tropical zodiac. In Western astrology, incredibly only a description of the planets in their degrees equal to the sidereal astrology school, when the birth is correct, the two schools do not contradict each other. This is probably the residue that has informed Western astrology to the present day, but God will not give astologiii fraud western and eastern, it just gives the distortion of both schools, but the exact date of birth of consciousness and the fate of both schools work. So it is possible to supplement the Western Vedic astrology.

what more details now you require I already provide what you have asked ?

Regards
jigs

[explorings]

Dear explorings,


The idea of Rahu in the 12th H and connected with either the 7th H or 7th L, will give marriage to a foreigner appears to be erraneous. Nowhere it is written that 12th H is anyway connected to marriage. 12th being 6th to 7th may indicate an end to or disruption in marriage, but certainly not the beginning.

In this context it may be noted that the conditions for marriage to a foreigner may also indicate marriage to person of a different faith, who may or may not be technically a foreigner. The key pointer is the connection of Rahu (karak for anything foreign and also disruptions) with the 9th H or 9th L (ones native culture and Dharma - faith).

Hope this clarifies. Kindly test it on the charts you have and see if it works.

Regards
swamykool

Swamykool:

U missed my point.... my point is not about marriages in connection to 12th house...

My point is Ra (karaka for unconventional marriages and anything foreign) if associated with 7L in 12th house (connected with foreign land/forbidden places) during its Mahadasha or Antardasha will give marriages associated with foreigners, unconventional marriages (non-traditional marriages) and exotic marriages. The trigger for this should be Ra MD/AD. This notion is clearly stated in many vedic books and is also stated on Barbara's site.

So, both combinations are fine:
Rahu+7L+9L/Nak/house (as 9th denotes ones native culture and dharma)

or Rahu+7L+12L/house (as 12th represents foreign or forbidden places).

Although, 9L is also associated with foreign matters, IMO the former usually gives intercaste marriages in some of the charts that I have analyzed.

My chart is more accurate with Virgo Lagna and verifies all events in my life.

[explorings]

Following is the link where you find my particulars.



http://www.lightonvedicastrology.com/ph ... 2&start=25


Nilesh

The trigger for that should have been a Ra MD/AD along with transits indicating a marriage.

"As per Vedic Astrology, a person’s prospect is worked out from three given systems and they are: 1) Horoscope, 2) Transit of planets (Gotchaar) and 3) Maha Dasha. All the three divisions are important; however, more importance is given to ruling Maha Dasha while analysing a horoscope"

When I analyzed your chart some time back, I vaguely remember that u were amidst Venus Mahadasha. Check bhukti and transitory information at the time of your marriage and also during your Rahu bhukti (if thts already over)

[swamykool]

12th ususally refers to foreign journey or foreign settlement or foreign trade. It does not indicate marriage with a foreigner.

Think it logically, one may marry a foreigner. But that foreigner may easily be settled in one's native country. Like an American lady marrying an Indian who went to work or study in the US and settled there.

The key element is Rahu (karak for foreigner) and not 12th H or 12th L (foreign places).

Dear explorings,

I have enunciated the reasons why 12th H has nothing to do with marriage. But pl use whatever that works for you.

Rahu is the Karak for everything unconventional. Not unconventional marriage. Only when Rahu is connected with the 7th H or the 7th L does the question of unconventional marriage arise.

swamykool

[swamykool]

Dear Swamy coolji,

For me, Its too late to know about the combination of planets to marriage with foreigner. I have combo which substantiate to marriage with foreigner but I married with a indian girl. I have been married for 3 years. (If you would have told me about this combo three years ago then may be today's picture would be diffrent. I might be try to find a foreigner lady for marriage. )

Anywy I m just joking. I m happy with my wife. She is full of with elegance.

Dear Anilesh,

You do have most of the parameters for marriage to a foreigner, except there are 2 tricky exceptions to your chart.

I am using Chitrapaksha Ayanamsha (Lahiri), Drik Siddhanta, topocentric positions.

Your Lg is Kanya (Virgo), Hasta Nk.

Rahu is in Leo (magha). Rahu-Ketu is in the 6-12 axis and has no connection with the 1-7 axis.

Rahu is with the 7th L. But for Virgo Lg, Jup is both the 4th L (Dhanu) and 8th L (Pis).

Jup aspects the 4th H, 7th H, 8th H and 9th H.

Here I am using a technique of Brigu Nadi which states that retro planets throw their aspect from the previous H too, and their presence is also acknowledged in the previous H. K N Rao and his team in BVB has used this dictum to brilliant effect in many charts. Thus in a nutshell - Retro planets aspect double the number of Hs than they ususally do.

So by this rule, Jup the Karak for Dharma and convention aspects 4th,7th,8th and 9th. In case of 4th and 8th Hs its the Lord aspecting his own H.

4th H stands for ones own country or native land.

Though Jup is with Rahu, Rahu is not so strong in Leo. While Jup is very strong in Leo (simhastha brihaspati) and it is with another friend Mars, and aspected by the Lord of Leo Sun.

Thus Jup's strength and Jupi's aspect, esp on the 4th and 8th and 9th clinched the desi deal for you. The home connection is too strong and it has given you an excellent wife.

Whenever you see any dictum fitting the situation, also check if there are any 'bhanga' or exception that is applicable. Astrology is very complex and many parameters have to taken into account.

1 question, did you get very sick or met with an accident and had to be hospitalised in the 1st half of 1991, when you were 10 yrs old? Or the last quarter 0f 1993 when you were 12-13 yrs old? In fact the whole pd between 1991 to 1993?

Or in the year 1996?

Regards
swamykool

[milredr]

Rahu in the 7th H is not very important. Lots of traditional arranged marriages happen with Rahu in 7th. For intercaste see if Rahu has any connection with the 7th Lord. Also check if Rahu has any connection with the 7th H from Moon or the 7th L from moon. Also check if Rahu is in the Nk of these planets or these planets are in Rahu's Nk.

Hey Coolant My husband has rahu in the 7th in aquarius. Rahu''s dispositor is the 7th Lord.
In my case Rahu is in the 4th in the nakshatra of venus who is placed in the 7th.

Ours is a intercaste marriage.

Regards

[swamykool]

Hey Coolant My husband has rahu in the 7th in aquarius. Rahu''s dispositor is the 7th Lord.
In my case Rahu is in the 4th in the nakshatra of venus who is placed in the 7th.

Ours is a intercaste marriage.

Hi Mili,

Yes, I have said that Rahu in the 7th is not very imp for intercaste marriage. But not that it is totally irrelevant. There are many traditionally arranged marriages with Rahu in 7th. Sometimes these arranged marriages are inter-caste. Look below VHB's response -

Thank you very much for helping us learn by sharing these useful rules/combinations with us.I have tested these parameters (of course,with my limited knowledge ) on some of my relative's charts and I am happy to inform you that they are working.

VHB clarified in chat that in the case of some of his relatives, they had Rahu in 7th. But they had inter-caste marriage which was traditionally arranged and performed. Hope he clarifies that in this thread too.

In your husband's case:

Rahu in 7th, but in OH (Aqa) and in own Nk (satabhisha), Rahu is super strong.

Mars the karak for wife and the 4th and 9th L is in the Rahu-Ketu axis and is conjunct with Ketu.

Sat the co-lord of Aqa is in 9th H and Sat aspects both the 7th H and 7th L from moon. Moon in the H of Jup, and Jup in H of Ven in Rahu's Nk (swati). The 9th H from moon (Leo) is also in Rahu-ketu axis. His was a love match.

Your case:

The following Hs are the only ones taken for marriage or pairing. 1/7 axis, 4/10 axis (4th is 10th fr 7th and 10th is 4th fr 7th i.e sukhabhava from 7th), 8th (conjugal life and spouses family) 9th (Dharma and fortune - bhagya).

In this context it may be noted that the conditions for marriage to a foreigner may also indicate marriage to person of a different faith, who may or may not be technically a foreigner. The key pointer is the connection of Rahu (karak for anything foreign and also disruptions) with the 9th H or 9th L (ones native culture and Dharma - faith).

Rahu is in the 4/10 axis, Rahu is in the Nk of the 9th L (Purvashadha-Ven).

Rahu is in the H of Jupi, the Karak for husband in a womans chart. When the nodes reside in a H, they act and give effect as the Lord of that House (Laghu Parashari).

Sat 5th and 6th L in the 9th. Ven, 9th L in the 7th exalted.

Jup is in the 7th fr Moon. Sat the 7th L from Moon is in the 11th from Moon and in the Nk of Moon (Rohini).
Love match and unconventional.

Note the 3,7,11 trikon in both the charts. Yours is not intercaste per se, its the 2nd case. Note the quote.

Hope this clarifies.

swamykool

[milredr]

Yes coolant. More than clarifies. Thnks

[anilesh47]

Dear Swamycoolji, Thanks for your insights.

Ya, you are right, i frequently fall ill. If my memory serves me right, it was the year of 1992, i had two opertations, one was for nose and other one for tonsil. So this two times i had to be hospitalized.

I didnt understand in following sentence.
"Jup the Karak for Dharma and convention aspects 4th,7th,8th and 9th". How would jupiter aspect to my 9th house, If jupiter aspects from previous house then it should be 3rd, 5th and 7th house. Can you more elucidate regarding this aspects?

Rahu is indicator of foreign elements. Rahu is weak in Leo. Then why i m gaga over to go foreign country or always wanted to wish to trade with foreign elements. My family is frustrated with me due to my craziness of foreign country. But i am made of thick skin.

Regards
Nilesh