Celebrating The Combustion of Saturn...

[astro123]

Saturn transit (Saturn return) in virgo has been woeful for me too..Sade sati was not that bad (back in the 90's)..Natal Saturn is not combust nor afflicted and he also happens to be my Asc Lord...Happen to run his AD since last month..Dunno what's in store once Saturn hits libra

[Saindhavi]

Astro123,

I remember you saying earlier you have Capricorn Ascendant. That means Libra is your 10th house. Exalted Saturn in Libra will mean ultimate climax in career for you!

You may go abroad during exalted Saturn in Libra.

But home front may be disturbed after Jupiter moves out of Aries in May next year - Saturn will have negative aspect on Aries and Cancer. Of course, your natal 4h and 7th houses and Dasha running also count.

Come back and report about Saturn in Libra.

[astro123]

@ saindhavi

U right to a certain extent..Saturn will be exalted in 10th from lagna but will be 8th from my Moon,so let me see what's in store ..!! brunt of impact will be re-inforced by the fact that i will be running Saturn Ad for the rest of this year and for most of next year

[Saindhavi]

Here is a native's chart I saw recently -

Saturn greatly combust at 3 degrees from Sun in Pisces Lagna with Sun and Rahu.

Rahu Mahadasha was terrible.

Native had suffered from hysteric seizures for many years, which have stopped after Jupiter Mahadasha started.

High level of combustion of Saturn protected the native from Saturn's negative aspect on 10th house (Sagittarius) and she got a well-paying job as soon as Jupiter Mahadasha started.

High combustion of Saturn has weakened its friendly aspect on 7th house (Virgo) and the native remains unmarried. Saturn is not able to nullify 7th placed Ketu here because of high level of combustion.

In Gochar, Saturn is in 7th house of partnerships - personal and professional (Virgo) at the moment. As soon as Saturn became combust, this native lost the job - despite Jupiter being in 2nd house of wealth (Aries) currently.

Native has complained of professional problems for last 2 years, but was able to retain the job (despite Rahu debilitated in 10th house till May this year), till Saturn became combust.

A combust Saturn was not able to give the effect of 7th house of partnerships - personal as well as professional - for a native with high level of combust Saturn in Lagna chart.

It is hoped that Jupiter will bring a job for the native after Saturn comes out of combustion.

[Saindhavi]

Astro123,

I don't think Moon chart should supersede the Lagna chart. My Moon chart hardly seems to give effect.

In any case, you can recite Hanuman Chalisa daily, do regular charity and all should be well.

Do you see any difference after Saturn went combust from last week of September or so?

[milredr]

Hi Saindhavi,

U said exalted planet gives a debilitated aspect to the 7th house from where its placed. Never heard of this before. Can u pl tel me where you got this from?

I have always heard/read and seen that the transit from the moon has more impact than from the lagna. Even saade Sati is seen from the moon nd not lagna. Anyway this is my POV. I am sure it works from lagna too. Saturns 8th transit from the moon is not good at all(ofcourse depending on the strength of saturn in one's chart). Can u give me ur details pl.

Lastly, i think i posted my queries in the wrong thread. Shd have opened another thread like u said. My saturn is not combust Saindhavi. My venus is combust, 99% in rasi and 96% in navamsha. It is however exalted nd vargottam. It has not spoilt the significance of its lordship in any manner and hence my queries.

Warm Regards,

[Saindhavi]

Milredr Ji,

I know Sadhe Sati is calculated from Moon and I wrote above that my last Sadhe Sati was entirely good - calculated from Moon.

My Saturn's 8th transit was also quite good - from Moon.

I virtually lived a royal lifestyle in those days! But then I was also going through a very benefic period of Mahadasha at the moment and Saturn was in a good house from Lagna - so you can see why I give primacy to Lagna not to Moon chart.

I have noticed that Saturn's 4th transits from Moon were the only bad Saturn phases in my life, all other Saturn transits are not that much problematic for me. But then, my Saturn is partially combust.

But somehow my Moon chart doesn't seem to give much effect. My Lagna chart only gives effect.

I feel Lagna chart should not be superseded by any other chart. But that's my perception. Others have different perceptions, I know that.

It's quite simple - every planet has a 7th aspect and if it is exalted, its 7th aspect will be in its house of debilitation, which is how I have seen it working and it is logical too.

I find it surprising that your 99% combust Venus has given you full effect!

Will it be possible for you to message me your details?

I have not been showing my chart to anyone because Ramananji has already seen it.

Besides, most people react unusually when they see my chart. So, I hesitate to show my chart to people now.

But I'll send it to you, if you want to see it. Only, please don't get a shock.

[milredr]

Thanks Saindhavi. Takes a lot for me to get shocked:). I have sent u PM. Pl check.

Regards

[jayakap]

Hello Saindhavi Ji,

Please could you help me. The problem is , my husband has resigned from his job on 13th Sep 2011. it was a very good and well paying job with no hassles. is this because of the role of saturn as some one told us that hhe is running shani sade saati. there is too much of tension now. please suggest some remedies and predictions his and my details are below

husband
dob 24/09/1972 11.30 am delhi
mine
28/11/1974 8.30 am kolkatta.


will be heartily greatful for your help

[Saindhavi]

No it's not because of Saturn (for once!)

He is running Sun-Jupiter-Moon and his Moon is in Kemdrum Yoga ie, it doesn't have a planet preceding or following it. It leads to financial troubles in life and wrong decisions.

Besides, he has Guru-Chandal yoga ie, his Jupiter and Rahu are together and this combination is there in the house of wealth.

In Gochar, Rahu afflicts his Ascendant at the moment and will be there till December 2012. Wrong decisions, delusions and unwarranted anxieties and fears may be caused by it.

He should recite Vishnu Sahasranama and Shri Suktam from Rig Veda, apart from reciting 1st chapter of Durga Saptashati for Durga daily.

See links for hymns and proper mode of reciting Durga Saptashati 1st chapter here -

http://www.lightonvedicastrology.com/ph ... =75#p93038

[meemu]

Dear Saindhavi,

I wanted to share a few recent developments which i'm not sure if they are related to the combustion of Saturn. I have been struggling quite a bit work wise for the past couple of years. I got a small assignment ( small in terms of duration and also money wise but seems interesting from a learning point of view). I went for discussion and finalizing the contract on Sep.21!!! I'm starting work next week and will complete by the end of the month. All during Saturn combustion .

Also, yesterday I found out that my Canada PR has moved to 'In Process' which means they are looking at my application and I should be hearing from them regarding the last and final step. This comes to me as a big relief after a long silence wherein I was clueless as to what was going on.

I'm not sure if these 2 events have anything to do with Saturn combustion. My lagna is Saggi and my Saturn is in the 2 house (makara) along with Venus.

Regards

[Saindhavi]

Hi Meemu,

Combustion of Saturn has certainly helped in moving your emigration papers, since Saturn has been helping Rahu block your foreign travel in 12th house. Saturn's combustion has at least minimised its impact on 12th, though Rahu is still there.

I have already told you about your professional problems in past 2 years. Follow the remedies I suggested.

An additional impact on your finance is Venus moving into Libra recently in your 11th house of financial gains. Venus will keep on giving you money and when Saturn moves into Libra in mid-Nov, you'll get more money.

[astroboy]

by milredr » Wed Oct 05, 2011 10:06 am
1. Whether a debilitated sun reduces the combustion to a large extent?

Keep in mind which planet is in the debilitated sign of the Sun. The question of Neecha Bhanga creeps in. . Let us say Guru is with Ravi. He cannot contribute to a Neecha Bhanga.

Now the Sun is debilitated in Tula and with good cause. The sun is happy and is blazing bright in Aries. His rays are considerably weak when he is in Tula. The Sun Moves to his weak spot on the 18th of October and is there till November 18th. This is the time when the Sun's rays are not harsh.If Guru is stronger than the Sun by Shadbala and AV, he can overcome the Suns rays and still reach the earth easier than say if he ie Guru was in Aries in the same condition.

Having said that, you must see what lord ship Ravi gets. Strength is one thing, but intention is another.

[anuradha]

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[astroboy]

Good day Anu ji,

6th and the 7th lord Shani is weak in Av but strong in Shad bala and vimsopaka bala. He has weak enemies on the court who he defeats often, and got married only after Shani dasha.

My reference to AV and Shad bala was pertaining to combustion Anu ji. Shani is not combust here. A interesting point to note is that the 3rd lord and the 10th lord is in the lagna. Superb.

Best regards,

[anuradha]

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[shikham]

Saindhavi is right here when she said that exalted planet cast debilitated aspect on 7th house. For example, Sun gets exalted in aries but gets debilitated in libra. So naturally, the 7th aspect of any exalted planet will be negative.

[Saindhavi]

Shikham,

Thanks!

[astroboy]

Good day,

by shikham » Fri Oct 07, 2011 8:05 pm
Saindhavi is right here when she said that exalted planet cast debilitated aspect on 7th house. For example, Sun gets exalted in aries but gets debilitated in libra. So naturally, the 7th aspect of any exalted planet will be negative.

I am sorry but I have to disagree. How can the aspect of a exalted planet be negative? say Saturn is exalted, is it right to say that his "exalted aspect" is on the 3rd and the 10th from where he is, but his 7th aspect alone is negative? That does not stand to logic.

let us Say, Guru and Kuja are both exalted. since the two cast their aspect on their negative house, do they cancel each others exaltation ? I think not.

You must understand what exaltation means. We all know a exalted planet is rendered strong by strength "all factors being equal" and also bears good intentions towards the natives well being, "all factors being equal". How then, can a exalted planet ruin the 7th house from himself ? going by the same logic, the planet in debilitation must give a exalted 7th aspect on its exaltation sign, and by that logic I should have had a exalted 9th house. I am sorry, But the logic is flawed, and thus your statement is untenable.

Best regards

[sinecurve]

Good day,

by shikham » Fri Oct 07, 2011 8:05 pm
Saindhavi is right here when she said that exalted planet cast debilitated aspect on 7th house. For example, Sun gets exalted in aries but gets debilitated in libra. So naturally, the 7th aspect of any exalted planet will be negative.

I am sorry but I have to disagree. How can the aspect of a exalted planet be negative? say Saturn is exalted, is it right to say that his "exalted aspect" is on the 3rd and the 10th from where he is, but his 7th aspect alone is negative? That does not stand to logic.

Theres a school of thought Sirji, which teaches 7th aspect af Debilitated planets as exalted and viceversa. I had this approach when I started to learn Astrology. Didnt find it logical so dropped it but many I know still follow it.

[chavitarun]

Respected Astroboy
namaskar

it means aspects of exalted planets placed in any house good or bad house 2. or lording bad or good house , will be good????????????pl. throw some light on it

what about aspects of planets in own house - whether good

regards

[ChandraLagna]

Exaltation = Max power of graha
Deb = least power of graha

Aspect = power to influence another planet or house.

At max power, the aspect or ability to influence will be max.
At least power, aspect or ability to influence will be least.

It is a separate question on whether the effects will be good or bad.
For that two factors need to considered.
Natural traits of the graha.
Lordship of the graha.

If Jupiter is lording 2H and 5H and exalted, it will be 9H, so will be extremely good.
If Jupiter as 8L is exalted, it spells T R O U B L E.

Regards,
Arun

[milredr]

Arun spells trouble for :

1. The houses it lords? or
2. The house it is placed in? or
2. The houses it aspect?

Regards

[chavitarun]

arun sir
very nice explanation. pl. elaborate

1.what about in tula , venus lord of 1st & 8th exalted in 6th
2. what if lord of 4th & 10th jupiter exlated in dusthana
3. a planet also owns two house , which may be both good or one may be good or one may be bad

Regards

[Saindhavi]

Astroboy,

I quote Arunji -

Exaltation = Max power of graha
Deb = least power of graha

Aspect = power to influence another planet or house.

At max power, the aspect or ability to influence will be max.
At least power, aspect or ability to influence will be least.

It is a separate question on whether the effects will be good or bad.

Hence, an exalted planet will exert maximum negative influence on the house opposite to it, since it happens to be its house of debilitation sign.

Similarly, a debilitated planet will be able to give effects of only its opposite house, which happens to be its exaltation sign. It can't give the effect of where it is placed.

The 7th aspect of a debilitated plant will be mild, but this is the house whose effect it will have the maximum power to give.

I don't see how any school of thought can teach that a debilitated planet gives exalted effect of its opposite house, as has been remarked above - this is wrong, because the planet doesn't have that much power.

For example - exalted Saturn will control with maximum power the opposite house where Aries sign is placed. Whether this maximum control is good or bad depends upon which house it is.

Debilitated Saturn will give the effect of all the 3 houses it aspects - in Gemini, Libra and Capricorn - all 3 effects will be mild, not powerful. But out of these 3, debilitated Saturn will give the maximum effect of Libra - though much milder than the effect of an exalted Saturn in Libra.

Exalted Jupiter will not give the effect of its opposite house, because it is its debilitation house. Whether this not giving effect is good or bad depends upon the house.

Debilitated Jupiter will give the effect of only its opposite house, which happens to be its exaltation house. It won't be in a position to give the effect of the house where it is placed and of its 5th and 9th aspect.

But debilitated Jupiter's effect of its opposite house is milder than an exalted Jupiter's effect of Cancer.

This is provided no other planet cancels the debilitating aspect of exalted planet.

I hope I have made myself clear.