Performing arts and astrology

[Shreya]

Dear members,

It would be great if somebody could please throw some light on the astrological combinations in a person's chart that favour a foray into performing arts. Also, will those combinations be different from that of fine arts??

Regards,
Shreya

[Shreya]

Dear Shrikanth,

As far as my knowledge goes, performing arts would refer to acting- theatre/screen, music, dance etc. Anything which allows a person to perform their art in front of a LIVE audience. So, this would also include actors, musicians, dancers, magicians, comediens, people involved in a circus and also street performers and the like.

Fine arts- Fine arts would include painting, making any craft, sculpting, photography, cinematography or any kind of visual art and also poetry etc. I think writing screenplays or any kind of creative writing etc would also count as a fine art. Basically, a person involved with fine arts would not be actually performing their art in front of an audience but the audience would get to view only the finished product.

Regards,
Shreya

[Vic DiCara]

Dear members,

It would be great if somebody could please throw some light on the astrological combinations in a person's chart that favour a foray into performing arts. Also, will those combinations be different from that of fine arts??

Regards,
Shreya

I am an artist and a performer. I have posted the following article in my blog which addresses the topic you have raised. I hope it is helpful for you: http://vicdicara.wordpress.com/2010/03/ ... cal-chart/

[digitsoftime]

Dear Vic,

In your article, you say 'the 4th house is the core of the emotional self'.
Cany ou please explain what you mean by core?
thanks

regards,
s

[Murad]

Core means the deepest part of something for example the Earth has 5 depth layers, The inner Core is the deepest so thats wat it means

[Vic DiCara]

Core means the deepest part of something for example the Earth has 5 depth layers, The inner Core is the deepest so thats wat it means

Thanks Murad.

The 4th house is the sky that is directly below our feet. It is the home of the Sun in the hours around midnight. Thus it represents all the private places, private property, and internal things - the core of which all is our emotional soul.

[digitsoftime]

Dear Vic,

So you just mean core of the mind..as in the deepest desires, tendencies, habits, bonds, fetter etc?

[Murad]

Yup no probb bro lol

[Murad]

he means the CORE of your emotions likee sad mad happy

[digitsoftime]

I think both are the same Murad..
Thanks

[Dev]

Hi:
Here are the details on the great musician M.S.Subbulakshmi
Born on 16 September 1916, 09:41:13 rectified time [09:30 known
She has guru chandra yoga, Lagna lord conjunct with yogakaraka saturn in 10th house, exalted jupiter and mars in navamsa.
jupiter aspecting 2nd lord mars(so helps the voice) and guru aspects lagna lard mars in navamsa exalted and placed in 10th. I could read only so much. More interpretations are welcome

Taking my own horoscope, I have moon in 5th from atmakaraka mercury. Not to boast, I have music in my blood and could play instrument when I was just 3. It came naturally to me. Apart from this, acting in dramas, drawing, elocution, essay writing, antyakshari, language competition, handwriting, running, in all these I used to win prizes apart from studies too, not to talk of prizes but I used to like all these so much and could do well in each of these. May be it is because of the moon in the trine. Anyway, I also do well in writing jokes, writing short stories, poems in english, hindi and tamil, cooking, maintaining a clean house and so on. It is because music is the main thing, I do have other collections of my own writing with me May be it is because of the moon in the trine or also due to planets in the third.

Dev

[shilpa]

In my opinion - the ability to express oneself is primarily ruled by Moon. The planet of mind and emotions and also a planet of relating to all the rest. Moon is the planet who has no enemies and is considered a planet that helps bridge gaps, bring people closer.

Dear shrikanth,
thx for the easy to undertsand explanation.
that is very true...... moon does signify creativity that the artists need to demonstrate....and a strong moon is a hallmark of creative expression.

In addtion to that I think a strong 5th house is also helpful...as 5th rules the creativity, intellect, geniuses.

Look at the chart of famous singer Alka Yagnik, March 20, 1963, 7:02pm, Kolkata.

Look at the congregation of planets in her 5th house...with the 5th Lord ( Shani in his own house) and 9th Lord and friendly Ve conjunct there.
Moon is also in the 5th and in Vargottama w.r.t D9

Moon is also in his own house in Siddhamsa ( D24)...the chart that denotes innate abilities...although the asc. moves there in +4min to -40 sec window

regards

[Vic DiCara]

Dear Vic,

So you just mean core of the mind..as in the deepest desires, tendencies, habits, bonds, fetter etc?

It:s the Citta - the mind/heart/core. Its the center of what we are inside.

[2002diksha]

sir,
i want to clarify some doubts . i had read somewhere that planets in twelfth house in navamsa is equivalent to being placed in trines. whatever planets are there in twelfth house would signify some talent. is that true. also what happens if with atmakaraka moon and jupiter are placed.
thanks

[Dev]

Dear Shrikanth,

The 5th house in the Rasi chart holds some keys for talents and potential for creative arts.

I do feel that there would be several other factors apart from this which would indicate creativity and talents.
In fact, I thought my 5th house is not so strong, but then I have quite good in all these. Anything that I learn new, I can do it so quickly. I may sound arrogant but really I am not. I have found technical mistakes in some of the very famous singers and in fact they are not consicous of that mistake even. Of course I stopped making such comments after I felt that people obviously not talented in music would make fun of me saying you are not more famous than them or something like that. Of course their luck favours them and they may sing much better also but I point to the technical mistake.
Anyway even in quizzes involving use of intellect wherein it is not the routine question and answer type, I always scored 50 % more than the others in my masters and in the general curruculam too, I was topper but there were others who were close but here there was huge difference in the marks.
May be I was curious to know if it is due to mercury or other planet. Obviously I am not writing this out of ego and I am just stating the truth and just trying to understand astrology. There are subjects like business and commerce that I am not good at.
Your views please?
Dev

[shilpa]

Dear Shilpaji,

Yes I do agree that the 5th house in the Rasi chart holds some keys for talents and potential for creative arts.

I'm not sure if Alka Yagnik time is accurate - but for now I'm assume its accurate.
I normally use the longitudinal basis for reckoning houses from the Ascendant.

In this chart with Virgo Ascendant - Venus and Saturn so closely conjoined together (separated by few arc mins) and placed in the Ascendant in Navamsa. Though we have 4 planets in the Capricorn - I reckon only Venus and Saturn to be firmly in 5th (due to their longitudes being 25 Cp 27 and 25 Cp 37 respectively)
rest are in the 4th.
Venus - Sat are conjoined pretty much in all major vargas in this chart.

Regards
Shrikanth

Dear Shrikant,
I see the point behind discounting moon and Ket that are at 0 and 3 deg respectively.
If if you count from the ascendant as the start or even the center of house-1......moon and Ketu are out.

Is that PVR Rao's methodology ?
That you are using it would imply you have had good experiences with this longitudnal approach?

regards

[kandhan]

What artistic talent do Rahu, ketu, Jupiter and saturn indicate if they are in trines to AK/moon in D-9?

[shilpa]

Dear Shilpaji,

Yes I began by using the traditional method of sign counting (read a ton of B V Raman books).
But then after following P V R Narasimha Rao's classes and then applying them on real life chart - I was convinced the longitudinal basis to be more effect (atleast I felt it was more logical)

In this method, the first house begins from the degree of the Ascendant and goes 30 degree and then the next house starts etc., The "creation" of the native began at the degree of the ascendant and so felt simple and logical.

There is an alternate method of using the midpoint of the ascendant sign and then reckoning.

Regards
Shrikanth

Dear Shrikant,
Thanks for the confirmation. I thought as much.
I have read this methodology of PVR Rao a few times....
but the application of drawing unique house limits for every charts...... has been too radical for me so far conditioned on fixed parashari standard divisions of the zodiac.

Good to know you have validated and this method works for you.

regards

[Dev]

Dear Srikanth:

1-2-62 NewDelhi 2.30am
It is a fact that I stated and I have not seen anyone in the forum and so it is not that I get some Publicity. I dont expect even in well known circles and I just keep mum.
Just wanted to know from astrology point of view. Thanks
Dev

[2002diksha]

sir,
i am just asking a silly question. what happens when together with AK many planets like sun ,moon and saturn are placed. does it indicate any talent in the person.i have heard that trines means 5th,9th and lagna.
thanks

[kandhan]

Shrikanthiji

tnx for the information. however, what i wanted to know was whether they indicate any artistic talent. for ex. Sun in trines in D-9 will indicate natural talent for its significations like authority, organization etc. that is the general indications. in artistic talent, Sun represents rhythym, instrumental music.

Do Rahu, Ketu, Jupiter, Saturn represent any such artistic talent? or is it only Sun, Moon, Mars, Mer and Ven which represent artistic talent in D-9?

[Shreya]

Should the third house be taken into consideration for performing arts? The fifth house rules 'creative children' so can a connection between 3rd and 5th give us any insights? Also, connections between the 5th and 10th house maybe. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

[Vic DiCara]

There are so many things.

First of all Rohini Nakshatra. This place is the root of creativity.

Next look at houses 3 and 5. These are on either side of 4. Four is where the emotions are kept inside. 3 and 5 are on either side, they are how the emotions are expressed. Creativity in the sense of expressing emotions is from these two houses.

Particularly if the 11th lord / house links with these houses you have the makings of a performing artist.

Some signs carry creativity as well. Gemini, for example. Some planets - Venus is for sensual refinement, and Mercury is for sensual expressiveness.

To be an astrologer you have to be able to take all the ingredients and understand how they combine and see all the different kinds of soups and dishes you can make with the same ingredients. What I am trying to give is a reasonably good list of ingredients going into creativity. I think trying to describe all the possible recipies is just distracting.