Cancellations of Maleficity

[Dev]

Dear Shipa:
I have following doubts:

1. Suppose saturn is 5th lord(along with another lordship) for a particular horoscope, who is placed in 3rd
house, he would be aspecting the 5th house but 3rd is 11th from 5th. Aspecting 5th is bad, but 11th from
5th is good for the 5th house, so what is the net effect?
2. For tula lagna, sat is yoga karaka being kendra kona lord, now will he funtion as yogakarak irrespective of
where he is placed for eg in the 3rd, because by definition he becomes a yogakarak, so would it be that
irrespective of where he is placed he would either be strong or a weak yogakarak and can never harm?
3. Suppose that jupiter is lord of 2nd & 5th house for a person. Is it always good for him to strengthen jupiter
by wearing Pushparag, what if he is in the nakshatra of say venus who is his enemy and also a malefic for
the above lagna.
4. If jupiter is 5th and 8th lord for a horoscope, if jupiter is in the 5th, what are his effects, and if in 8th what
are the effects. Being in one house, does it affect the other house?
5. If 5th lord is conjunct with 3rd and 6th lord say in 3rd house, for eg mesha lagna, mercury and sun in 3rd
house, will it weaken sun or strengthen mercury or both effects happen simultaneously?
6. Say for mesh lagna sun is in 3rd, mars in 6th and sat in 12th, now if all three aspect the 9th house, by 7th,
4th and 10th aspects respectively, would u say, 9th house gets 3 melefic aspects or would you say 5th lord
sun is apecting 9th, lagna lord is aspecting 9th, and they(5th and lagna lord ie sun and mars) are his(jupiter's)
friends and so effect is good. Which effect would domintate?
7. It is said that atmakaraka is one who teaches lesson to the individual and his dasa will not be an easy going
one. But then what about a person who has sun as atmakaraka and is born with 2years of sun dasa left. Then
it should be in buktis but sun bukti would be too short, the longest being sukra dasa sun bukti being one year
and people born during sun dasa may not experience sukra dasa in their life time unless they live for more
than 100 years.

I would appreciate your answers to these.

Thanks,
Dev

[shilpa]

Dear Shilpa,

Well explained.

Finally, following the slokas, pl. see the following yes or No.

(I) Suppose A is a planet or a house (including 6,8, or 12 or natural malefic). It is free from all associations, aspects.

1) A gives its positive significations if it strong by placements

2) A gives negative significations if it is weak by placements.

(II) Now suppose B is another planet closely associated/aspecting with A.

3) A gives its positive significations if B is strong (irrespective of B is natural malefic/benefic, functional malefic/functional benefic or enemy/friend to A)

4) A gives its negative significations if B is weak (again irrespective of B is natural malefic/benefic, functional malefic/functional benefic or enemy/friend to A)

5) All above are applicable and should be checked in D-1, D-9 or D-X (relevant)

dear mahesh...if i understand your summary right....it's pretty much YES so far

6) What is the difference in the nature of influence caused by an enemy and functional/natural malefic (assuming weak)? I suppose malefic/benefic should be given more importance than friendship/enmity as far as impact it causes on A.

7) Suppose JUP is 8th lord in D-1. Suppose same JUP is 9th lord in D-9. Will the malefic nature of
Dusthana in D-1of JUP be reduced due to benefic lordship in D-9?

yes...in the overall impact in the Jup periods, the resultant will be some kind of weighted average of two.

8. Since it is difficult for any one to remember so many yogas, one can assume that all the Rajayogas etc.
work/formalted within the above basic rules (1)-(5), they can not over-ride the basics and logic.

yes...yogas ability to deliver positive entirely depnds only if the planet is positive in the chart, with some exceptions such as VRY and exchange between two negative house lords

Regards,

[shilpa]

Dear Shipa:

I have following doubts:

1. Suppose saturn is 5th lord(along with another lordship) for a particular horoscope, who is placed in 3rd
house, he would be aspecting the 5th house but 3rd is 11th from 5th. Aspecting 5th is bad, but 11th from
5th is good for the 5th house, so what is the net effect?

Dear Dev.....neither the 3rd drishti nor the drishti on the 5th house of saturn can be as a blanked rule classified as bad.
you would have to see if Saturn sitting in the 3rd house in tat chart is positive or negative for the chart.
if he happens to be positive, then it;s drishti will also be benefic.

2. For tula lagna, sat is yoga karaka being kendra kona lord, now will he funtion as yogakarak irrespective of
where he is placed for eg in the 3rd, because by definition he becomes a yogakarak, so would it be that
irrespective of where he is placed he would either be strong or a weak yogakarak and can never harm?

you also have to see is by placement it is good or bad.
assuming it is debilitated or combust or in a bitter enemy location.......the affect of shani for that chart will be mixed. Because it is the YK.....it will not completely route that chart that it would have done otherwise is similarly bad placed.

3. Suppose that jupiter is lord of 2nd and 5th house for a person. Is it always good for him to strengthen jupiter
by wearing Pushparag, what if he is in the nakshatra of say venus who is his enemy and also a malefic for
the above lagna.
two points here:
1) It doesn't harm strengthening Jupiter throuhg stones if its Lords 2nd and 5th AND provided it is not seated in a dusthan that is not it;s own house or exaltation house.
2) Nakshtra lordship is IMO secondary to rasi chart placements...EXCEPT for Rahu and Ketu when standlone i.e not conjunct with any planets.
so if condition 1 is satisfied.......even if Jup is in Nk of Ve....no harm in strengthening.
and if you read my discussions with Mahesh, you will realize that no planet can be default termed as malefic for a lagna. You have to take the relationships by placement also into account



4. If jupiter is 5th and 8th lord for a horoscope, if jupiter is in the 5th, what are his effects, and if in 8th what
are the effects. Being in one house, does it affect the other house?

Jupiter will ONLY act benefic....this is CONFIRMED by Jatak Tatva as well as Phaladeepika.
if any planet owns a dusthan and a non-dusthan.....and is also sitting in swakshetra, MT or exalation, it will only give the effects of the non-dusthan and te positive signification of the dusthan such as inheritances, good sex-life from the 8th house . It LOSES it's dusthan-negative significations for that chart


5. If 5th lord is conjunct with 3rd and 6th lord say in 3rd house, for eg mesha lagna, mercury and sun in 3rd
house, will it weaken sun or strengthen mercury or both effects happen simultaneously?

3rd nd 6th houses will be strong and will yield the positive material significations that those houses stand for...becaue Lord of 3rd and 6th is in swakshetra,
sun will be strong because it is in friendly house.

However the emotional / mental significations that 3rd and 6th house stand for...will be negatively affected if Me is within combustible degrees of sun in the 3rd house.

so overall mixes result for 3rd house.....positive for material significations....and negative for emotional factors.
i will answer 6 and 7 later
regards



I would appreciate your answers to these.

Thanks,
Dev

[Dev]

Thanks Shilpa. Your answers are wonderful and very clear. I am amazed by your indepth knowledge of astrology.
Keep it up.
Dev

[shilpa]

we discussed in this thread...those who rose to power, fame ( infamous), on the back of malefics....and demonstrated qualities of cruel malefics....like Saddam.
here is the chart of Saddam:

april 26, 1937, 8:15am, Tikrit, Iraq ( use LMT option in JHORA)

--Mars is extremely strong in his own house....magnified by conjunct Rahu....in the 6th house....conquering enemies....and lording the 11th house of gains, desires and wish fullfillments.

--11th house has 3rd lord Sun exalted.
Although a minor malefic...when exalted....sun gives a lot of postive .......but if not checked by a strong benefic, can go wild....not knowing where to draw the line.
His desires overrode his assesment of his abilities.

Moon casts a drishti on Sun...but moon is not strong enough.
And Jupiter is rendered almost powerless in the chart, being debilitated...and with an amasabala of only 1 in dasavarga charts,

--11th is also the house of vices.......it made him and then, sank him, bceause of lack on control.

--Saddam did a lot of good also for his people, but crushed, killed and squashed many....his perosna was and memories will be a comibnation of Mars, Rahu and sun's delusional pride gone extreme.

Regards

[chavitarun]

Respected Shilpa madam

The chart has 5 planets in 12th house & 2 in 6th & 2 in lagna, with many yoga from Moon Lagna ,
two planets in own house & one planet exalted ,garhan yoga in 6th & viprit rajyoga

DOB : 17/02/1962,Male
Place : Beawar(Rajasthan)
time : 07.35 AM

pl. tell effect of 5 planets in 12th house with 2 planets in 6th. pl. also tell own house when?

1. Lagna lord in 12th (in own house or exalted) is good or bad

2. Lagan lord in 12th house ( in own house or exalted)will it affects significances of 1st house ?

3. Lagna lord if in own house or exalted in 12th , will it reduce losses & expenses?

4. it is said that Lagan house whereever goes ,protect that house i.e. good for that house

5. it is said in sixth house rahu with moon (own house) will be good

6. Five planets in 12th & 2 in sixth house aspecting each others-what result of aspects

7.Lord of 10th exalted in 12th house , whether good for carreer

8. it is said other planets (posited with planet in own house or exalted ) perform well,whether
they are functional malefic.

9. some say strong malefics(own house or exalted) in 6th house ,native will be free from enemies,
be healthy & free loans. is it true? but there are others who say otherwise.

10.How natural benefics placed in sixth house will be good for sixth house, it is said that natural
benefics placed in 6th house reduceds the bad impact of 6th house

11. whether aspect of yogkarak planet will always be good,even if placed in dusthana house
what if it is weak or combust ?

12. A planet owning two houses,one good & one bad house, how it will perform in mahadasha or anterdasha

13. planets forming yogas in dusthana will be good or bad . what if they are good yoga by looking from Alternate Lagan concept (from moon lagan), as per example of Venus Williaum chart on the site.
regards & pranam

Respected madam
Namaskar

Still awiting your valuable & good explanation.
Regards

[shilpa]

Dear Shilpa,

1) So, if say 8th lord is strong (say exalted), it acts like a benefic giving positive results of
not only its own houses but it also acts like a benefic for other-houses/planets it conjucts,
aspects... is this right?

correct...houses it lords, sits in and aspects

2) Is it necessary that the period of a planet which is strong like in exaltation or swakshetra should give good results? We find it happens only for some but not for some.

we must bear two factors in mind:
1) the lateral spread--i.e the whole chart acts all the time......the planets running dasas stand out.....but the entire chart is important all the time. Natives will get diffrent level of results from the chart depending on the goodness/ strength spread in the chart other than the planets running dasas

2) The depth---i.e how strong are those planets in dasavarga charts. Obviously the native that has the depth of support from those planets placement in dasavarga charts will get better results


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3) In the light of the above question, I remember in one of the books of Sri Rao, it is mentioned, as per classics, in SAT-VEN or VEN-SAT period, if both are strong it may be period of disaster and if one is strong and other is weak, it could be a period of extra-ordinary good luck. Also, if one of them is (R) and aspected by (natural malefics), it is not favorable….

What are your observations?

Why I raised this issue is, are the astrological principles formulated by the mentors using some basics and logic (like all other subjects) OR the subject consists of set of many principles as told/written/should be taken as dictum, each is independent on its own?

See for example, I came across a person known to me. Though I do not practice astrology regularly, I examined out of interest.

the dictum that you are referring to has it's orgin lying in Kalidas's Uttarakalamrit that I posted here
http://www.lightonvedicastrology.com/ph ... =9&t=10827

It was discussed at length...including astrosonu referring this to his guru.
My end conclusion was...it defies logic...and is unverifiable.



DB: 3 Dec 1962, Male TB: 5:24 AM, New Delhi (28.39 N, 77.13 E).
Libra ASc, SAT (yoga karaka) in Swakshetra in Cap. VEN in Swakshetra (Libra,1) and (R),
VEN is aspected by a) His powerful friend YK, SAT from 4 b) JUP, the great benefic from 5 (c) deb Mars
from 10,
In D-9, Tau Asc, SAT is best YK, well placed in 1, his friends house. VEN is exalted in 11.

He was doing well in job till around 2008 (pvt company, so as usual changes from one to other).
In SAT-Ketu around 2008 left job thinking better one at home town. Latter SAT-VEN came. It was assumed that it would be a fantastic period due to strength also combination of 4,5,1. But till now, it was other-way.

Now, going by the slokas, basics and logic, it would have been best period as period of 1st lord (VEN) should normally overall good, both SAT,VEN represent 1,4,5

Or is there some think missing in the analysis?
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please review the thread that I gave the link to...shall answer many of yuor question.
I will look at this chart and give my comments as time permits.

4) What is the difference/extra rules to be follwed for females over males while looking at a chart?

I think a diffrent persepctive is required when looking at female horoscopes. In the Desh-Kaal, Patra concept...the Paatra part has to be kept in mind when looking at females.
For example housewives, doing nothing can show strong / exalted 2nd, 9th, 10, 11th houses........that would imply glorious career and worldly successes if you didn;t know who they were.
Actually it is their husbands that are successful and they have shine in the reflection of their husband's status and wealth.

8th house is much more important in female horoscopy for determing the quality of marriage.

it is a subject of separate discussion that I will post on soemtime when i have more refrence material compiled
regards


Best regards,

[chavitarun]

respected Shilpaji
pl. reply my query
regards

[shilpa]

Respected Shilpa madam

The chart has 5 planets in 12th house & 2 in 6th & 2 in lagna, with many yoga from Moon Lagna ,
two planets in own house & one planet exalted ,garhan yoga in 6th & viprit rajyoga

DOB : 17/02/1962,Male
Place : Beawar(Rajasthan)
time : 07.35 AM

pl. tell effect of 5 planets in 12th house with 2 planets in 6th. pl. also tell own house when?

1. Lagna lord in 12th (in own house or exalted) is good or bad

2. Lagan lord in 12th house ( in own house or exalted)will it affects significances of 1st house ?

3. Lagna lord if in own house or exalted in 12th , will it reduce losses & expenses?

4. it is said that Lagan house whereever goes ,protect that house i.e. good for that house

5. it is said in sixth house rahu with moon (own house) will be good

6. Five planets in 12th & 2 in sixth house aspecting each others-what result of aspects

7.Lord of 10th exalted in 12th house , whether good for carreer

8. it is said other planets (posited with planet in own house or exalted ) perform well,whether
they are functional malefic.

9. some say strong malefics(own house or exalted) in 6th house ,native will be free from enemies,
be healthy & free loans. is it true? but there are others who say otherwise.

10.How natural benefics placed in sixth house will be good for sixth house, it is said that natural
benefics placed in 6th house reduceds the bad impact of 6th house

11. whether aspect of yogkarak planet will always be good,even if placed in dusthana house
what if it is weak or combust ?

12. A planet owning two houses,one good & one bad house, how it will perform in mahadasha or anterdasha

13. planets forming yogas in dusthana will be good or bad . what if they are good yoga by looking from Alternate Lagan concept (from moon lagan), as per example of Venus Williaum chart on the site.
regards & pranam

Respected madam
Namaskar

Still awiting your valuable & good explanation.
Regards

Dear friend,

--6th house is strong here..because Moon sits in his own house and hence conjunct Rahu acts like Moon...magnifying the power of already strong moon.

This means the native will be able to overcome enemies, diseases will do well in his service and get good support from his subordinates/ servants.

--12th house is also strong....with an exalted mars, lord shani in his own, ket offering positive checks nd balances.


Me=5th
Jup= 2,11
Sat= 1, 12
Ma= 10

also a couple of Rajyogas are being formed by the conjunction of 1-5 and 1-10 lords.
the 1-10 Rajyoga is quite powerful as both 1 and 10 lords are either in own house or exalted...a.nd are also quite strong in dasavarga.

--many planets in a house make that house in particular and the chart in general quite a strong one.

--In my read this person in honorable, principled, charitable, religous, healthy strong minded, with a good career/ job-service status


regards

[chavitarun]

Respected Shilpa madam

The chart has 5 planets in 12th house & 2 in 6th & 2 in lagna, with many yoga from Moon Lagna ,
two planets in own house & one planet exalted ,garhan yoga in 6th & viprit rajyoga

DOB : 17/02/1962,Male
Place : Beawar(Rajasthan)
time : 07.35 AM

pl. tell effect of 5 planets in 12th house with 2 planets in 6th. pl. also tell own house when?

1. Lagna lord in 12th (in own house or exalted) is good or bad

2. Lagan lord in 12th house ( in own house or exalted)will it affects significances of 1st house ?

3. Lagna lord if in own house or exalted in 12th , will it reduce losses & expenses?

4. it is said that Lagan house whereever goes ,protect that house i.e. good for that house

5. it is said in sixth house rahu with moon (own house) will be good

6. Five planets in 12th & 2 in sixth house aspecting each others-what result of aspects

7.Lord of 10th exalted in 12th house , whether good for carreer

8. it is said other planets (posited with planet in own house or exalted ) perform well,whether
they are functional malefic.

9. some say strong malefics(own house or exalted) in 6th house ,native will be free from enemies,
be healthy & free loans. is it true? but there are others who say otherwise.

10.How natural benefics placed in sixth house will be good for sixth house, it is said that natural
benefics placed in 6th house reduceds the bad impact of 6th house

11. whether aspect of yogkarak planet will always be good,even if placed in dusthana house
what if it is weak or combust ?

12. A planet owning two houses,one good & one bad house, how it will perform in mahadasha or anterdasha

13.planets forming yogas in dusthana will be good or bad . what if they are good yoga by looking from Alternate Lagan concept (from moon lagan), as per example of Venus Williaum chart on the site.
regards & pranam

Respected madam
Namaskar

Still awiting your valuable & good explanation.
Regards

Dear friend,

--6th house is strong here..because Moon sits in his own house and hence conjunct Rahu acts like Moon...magnifying the power of already strong moon.

This means the native will be able to overcome enemies, diseases will do well in his service and get good support from his subordinates/ servants.

--12th house is also strong....with an exalted mars, lord shani in his own, ket offering positive checks nd balances.


Me=5th
Jup= 2,11
Sat= 1, 12
Ma= 10

also a couple of Rajyogas are being formed by the conjunction of 1-5 and 1-10 lords.
the 1-10 Rajyoga is quite powerful as both 1 and 10 lords are either in own house or exalted...a.nd are also quite strong in dasavarga.

--many planets in a house make that house in particular and the chart in general quite a strong one.

--In my read this person in honorable, principled, charitable, religous, healthy strong minded, with a good career/ job-service status


regards

respected shilpaji
namaskar
1. pl. tell when i will have my own house .
2. will Venus-saturn dasha will be good for future carreer ,worried about future Career
3. jupiter debilited in 12th with neechbhang ,what impact
4.Lord of 10th exalted in 12th house , whether good for carreer
5. planets forming yogas in dusthana will be good or bad
6.A planet owning two houses,one good & one bad house, how it will perform in mahadasha or anterdasha
Regards

[shilpa]

respected shilpaji
namaskar
1. pl. tell when i will have my own house .
2. will Venus-saturn dasha will be good for future carreer ,worried about future Career
3. jupiter debilited in 12th with neechbhang ,what impact
4.Lord of 10th exalted in 12th house , whether good for carreer
5. planets forming yogas in dusthana will be good or bad
6.A planet owning two houses,one good & one bad house, how it will perform in mahadasha or anterdasha
Regards

hello,
there are personal queries...not relevant to the subject.
please post in the various queries / questions section of the forum.
regards

[chavitarun]

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[chavitarun]

respected shilpaji
pl. elaborate on the concept of aspects of planets in folllowing situations :

some astrologer donot use the concept of Aspects altogether

1. Natural yogkarak malefic benefic sitting in good house & aspecting good house

1a Natural yogkarak malefic benefic sitting in bad house & aspecting good house

b Natural yogkarak malefic benefic sitting in bad house & aspecting bad house

c. Natural malefic being functional benefic sitting in good house & aspecting good house

2.Natural malefic being functional benefic sitting in bad house & aspecting good house

3. Natural malefic being functional Malefic sitting in good house & aspecting good house

4. Natural malefic being functional Malefic sitting in bad house & aspecting good house

5. Natural malefic being functional Malefic sitting in bad house & aspecting bad house

6. Natural malefic being functional Malefic if strong or exalted sitting in good house & aspecting good house

7. Natural malefic being functional Malefic if strong or exalted sitting in bad house & aspecting good house

8. Natural malefic being functional Malefic if strong or exalted sitting in bad house & aspecting bad house


9.Natural benefic being functional benefic sitting in good house & aspecting good house

10.Natural benefic being functional benefic sitting in bad house & aspecting good house

11. Natural benefic being functional Malefic sitting in good house & aspecting good house

12. Natural benefic being functional Malefic sitting in bad house & aspecting good house

13. Natural benefic being functional Malefic sitting in bad house & aspecting bad house

14. Natural benefic being functional Malefic if strong or exalted sitting in good house & aspecting good house

15. Natural benefic being functional Malefic if strong or exalted sitting in bad house & aspecting good house

16. Natural benefic being functional Malefic if strong or exalted sitting in bad house & aspecting bad house

if in above situation if planet is combust or debiliated ,what will happen

[chavitarun]

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[mannu21]

Shilpa ji

In Aries Lagan Mercury is lord of 3rd and 6th house (functional malefic); one is Upachaya house another is Dustham house. In this case, say Mercury is placed in 12th house (debiliated in pisces).

* Does debiliation of 6th lord mean less enemy/debt/disease

this native will be more prone to attacks of and being hurt by diseases, enemies, debts...more hurdles to face



* But it is forming VRY, so it mean there would be some adversity before sunshine.

vipreet raj yog ( VRY) means some positive emerging as a side benefit out of the calamity...but for that the participating planet muts be strong in Rasi and in dasavarga charts.
atleast in the rasi Me is weak...so expect little gain from VRY..unless it is really strong in higher charts

As mercury is not natural malefic, then how to correlate between the two.

Me is a malefic for this chart and being a neutral planet even when malefic it will not cause havoc and destrcution the type that Shani or rahu might when malefic

Thanks Shilpa ji

Just want to understand, how much importance we need to pay to conjuction and aspect ON debilated planet. Say if mercury in debilated in pisces then venus is exalted, what if there is conjuction between the two and does beign with exalted planet give some relief to debilated planet.

[shilpa]

Dear Mahesh,

in the given chart...what kind of problems is the native having in his job?
with his boss?...communication with colleagues?

and how was his home life/ parental relationship in 2007-08 ?

[shilpa]

Thanks Shilpa ji

Just want to understand, how much importance we need to pay to conjuction and aspect ON debilated planet. Say if mercury in debilated in pisces then venus is exalted, what if there is conjuction between the two and does beign with exalted planet give some relief to debilated planet.

dear mannu21,

that scenario would cause a neech-bhang per the defnitions.
However if there is ever a perfect neech-bhang...i don't know. To me mercury still remains in a very uneasy/ innimical placement and hence would not give good results in it's periods...unless it is quite strong in higher charts

[Dev]

S

[chavitarun]

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[h_punith]

Hi Shilpa

For virgo ascedent the Venus is the highest benific as it Rules the 2nd and the 9th house if it sits in the First House where it gets Debilated(at virgo) does that mean that it will do more damage to the person?

[shilpa]

in the given chart...what kind of problems is the native having in his job?
with his boss?...communication with colleagues?

and how was his home life/ parental relationship in 2007-08 ?

Dear Shilpa,

Please see the p.m.

Best regards,

Dear Mahesh,

thx for the answers in PM

--I don;t think his problems are because of the Sat-Ve period....they are inspite of Sat-Ve.

Those planest are very well placed in Rasi and reasonably well placed in dasavarga.... and will do him well.

--His big problem in the Rasi chart comes from Rahu whihc is a strongly malefic.

Since april 2008-Dec 2009 it was transitting throuhg his 4th house and also over natal Ketu and aspected by natal Rahu...giving problems in 4th house matters

until Jun 2011 it was transitting throuhg his 3rd house...giving problems in 3rd house matters, but less so as it was neither crossing natal nodes nor aspected by natal Ra.


However since June 2011 Rahu is going throuhg his second house and is also apsected by natal Rahu.....so it will cause more problems than it did in 3rd house but less than 4th house.



--at any given time, it's not just the planets whose periods are running that are the ONLY ones determining the results in a native's life but:

Total result =it's the dasa/ anatardasa Lord ( highest weightage) + rest of the chart+ higher divisional charts+ Transits of the slow moving planets ( Ra, Sa, Jup) + transits of fast moving planets if their Dasa/antardasa is running.

--In this chart Rahu is is a heavy weight malefic...and it's impact depends on the severity of the configurations/ aspects it's forms in transit with the natal chart.
Favorable MD-AD minimizes the advsersity of Rahu.

--If my read is correct the transit of Rahu over his lagna starting Jan 13 will be partiularly severe, as at the same time Ra will be transitting his Trimamsa Lagna whihc is the same as Rasi Lagna.
He should do some remedial appeasement towards Rahudev.

regards

[chavitarun]

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[shilpa]

Dear Shilpa,

Thanks for detailed analysis.

Total result =it's the dasa/ anatardasa Lord ( highest weightage) + rest of the chart+ higher divisional charts+ Transits of the slow moving planets ( Ra, Sa, Jup) + transits of fast moving planets if their Dasa/antardasa is running.

1) How did you arrive at the conclusion that Rahu is so malefic that it overtakes rest of the
planets? Over and above, how come one transit planet (Rahu) could create problems overtaking
Natal Planets, MD-AD, divisional charts etc.?
Also, here Rahu is in a kendra (10) aspected from 4 bt the same 10th lord (moon) as well as
by powerful freind & Yogakaraka SAT. In Principle Rahu should create/partcipate in Rajayoga
(placed in an angle and aspected by trikona Lord (SAT, 5th lord)

http://www.lightonvedicastrology.com/ph ... =1&t=10102
I think you should read the above thread to get an idea of how to judge Rahu's role in the chart.

I don't think I said Rahu overtakes the rest of the planets.

What I have said is at any point there is a number of factors acting on the chart. The one that is the strongest malefic for the chart is Rahu, whihc in transit throuhg various houses gives varying degrees of problems..IMO.

However on the positive side there is a numbe of factors acting...hence the native is getting mixed results....but the negative part in the Rasi chart is largely coming from rahu

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General questions
2) While looking at alternate Ascendents like Moon, some part of strength (like directional strength etc.)
also changes. is this right?

there are a number of alternative Asc. such as Moon and a number of other Lagnas.
all should reach you to the same answer.....with diffrent persepctives...but the same major conclusion.


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3) If a strong planet gives positive results, a weak one gives negative results, why some are
specifically classified as benefic and some are malefic?

we have gone throuhg this discussion......the affect of strong malefic and the type of success and perosnality they give.



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4) In ideal case, if some one has all planets in exaltation or swakshetra, they should not suffer.
Is this right?
(Take the case of chart of Lord Sri Rama, irrespective of all planets powerful,
how come He too faced hurdles?)

please give the date, time, place that can be entered in JHORA, let us look at the set of divisonal charts
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5) What is the difference between Moola Trikona house and Swakshetra? Some believe
ML is the duty of the planet, own house is where it is comfortable;
a planet gives predominantly only ML results.... is this right

yes there are subtle diffrences but for practical interpretations, they are all very strong placements, in all of whihc the planet will give good results

Regards,
Mahesh

[ganeshgadag]

respected shilpa ji can u please explain cancellation of mALEFICITY IN MY CHART , DATE :22-10-1989
TIME : 07-32 AM , PLACE : BELGAUM,KARNATAKA

[shilpa]

respected shilpa ji can u please explain cancellation of mALEFICITY IN MY CHART , DATE :22-10-1989
TIME : 07-32 AM , PLACE : BELGAUM,KARNATAKA

--11th Lord sun is debilitated in the first house, conjunct with Ascendant weakening the first house.
Sun is never destructive even when malefic.....but give that it is weakening your first house and impacting leadership/ decisiveness/ ability to fight disease and hurdles...I suggest you do Surya jal-arpan and prayers daily.

--Mars is innimical in the house of Me.

--Saturn in also mildly innimical, and has no depth os strength in dasavarga charts,

--Rahu is in Mar's Nakshatra...and Mars is in enemy sign...so Rahu also acts malefically here.


so really Mars and Rahu are the ones who will create most tangible problems, especially during their periods.

regards