Some Insights Not Found in Classics

[chavitarun]

Hi

Next principle ......

This is another Dhana Yoga from clsssics.

If the Moon is in own sign, friendly sign or exalation sign in the Navamsha chart, AND it is aspected by either Venus or Jupiter, the person would be wealthy.

My Moon is in Virgo a sign friendly to the Moon. It is aspected by the Dristi of Jupiter in common signs. Jupiter sits directly opposite my Moon.

Warmest Regards
Hock Leong

Sir
1. what happen if Moon is in own sign in 6th house & aspected by jupiter from 12th house
2. What if Jupiter is Debiliated & having neech bhang also in 12th house in above case

[Khoo Hock Leong]

Hi

Next principle ....

We have already seen from earlier posts that PLACEMENT OF TRINES OR NATURAL BENEFICS (NOT RULING DUSTHANAS) and PLACEMENT OF THE DISPOSITOR OF TRINES OR NATURAL BENEFICS (NOT RULING DUSTHANAS) brings out the best in the characteristics of a Nakshatra.

Now from Horasara from Prithuyasas says that ASPECTS FROM A TRINE OR NATURAL BENEFICS (NOT RULING DUSTHANAS) via Dhristi affects all the Nakshatras in a sign which comes under that Dhristi Aspect. All of them automatically become strengthened.

For example, I have Jupiter a trina lord in Aquarius. It automatically casts an aspect on Caner. So 4th pada of Puna, the whole of Pushya and the whole of Alesha become enhanced and strengthened.

Similarly Venus is in Pushya which is a natural benefic and not ruling a Dushtna. It automatically casts an aspect to Aquarius and the 3rd and 4th padas of Dhanista, the whole of Shatabisha and the whole of Poorva Bhadrapada become enhanced and strengthened.

Of course if there is a mixture of aspects, placements and dispositors, then predict the effects of a mixed nature accordingly, according to whether they are trines, non-trines, ruling Dusthanas, natural malefics or natural benefics or dispositing the same.

Warmest Regards
Hock Leong

[Khoo Hock Leong]

Hi

The corollary (meaning inference) that can be obtained from the Dhristi Aspect dictum above is as follows :

Any NATURAL BENEFIC (NOT RULING A DUSTHANA) OR A TRINAL LORD sits in a particular sign. All the nakshatras in the sign are consequently strengthened and enhanced.

So when Venus sits in Pushya, it automatically enhances all the nakshatras in Cancer as well including Alesha and the4thpad of Puna.

Jupiter when sitting in Stabbatisha, it automatically strengthens all the nakshatras in Aquarius as well including Poorva Bhadrapada and the 3rd and 4th padas of Dhanista.

Graha sitting in a sign is a kind of Dhristi Aspect. Each sign aspects itself.

Warmest Regards
Hock Leong

[anilesh47]

Hii khoo,

I couldnt understand. How can we get which nakshatras are placed in sign? I can only see nak occupying planets. I couldnt find in Jhora software. How to find in Jhora?

[chavitarun]

Hi

Next principle .....

Vargottama (planet in the same sign in both D-1 and D-9) is strong and good even if the said planet is ruling a Dusthana. It means that the planet has a consistent way in handling the affairs of the house in which it rules in the Rasi chart (because of Rasi Tulya Navamsa).

Note : Navamsa Tulya Rasi ie. the other way of superimposition from Rasi to Navamsa is sually more for transit purposes.

Warmest Regards
Hock Leong

Dear sir,
1. Venus is lord of 6th & 11th for Sagitarius is vargottam . Will it give good result result or will
it produce bad result in its MD & AD. In birth chart venus is in 9th house with Ketu & Mars.

2. Mar( Natural Malefic) Lord of 5th & 12th with venus in 9th house will spoil venus or will be good ,
as it is said that lord of triKona in another trikona is good

3. if maleficiecy of MArs gets reduced when placed in Trikona house

regards

dear sir
awaiting your valued advice
regards

[chavitarun]

Hi

Next principle ......

This is another Dhana Yoga from clsssics.

If the Moon is in own sign, friendly sign or exalation sign in the Navamsha chart, AND it is aspected by either Venus or Jupiter, the person would be wealthy.

My Moon is in Virgo a sign friendly to the Moon. It is aspected by the Dristi of Jupiter in common signs. Jupiter sits directly opposite my Moon.

Warmest Regards
Hock Leong

Sir
1. what happen if Moon is in own sign in 6th house & aspected by jupiter from 12th house
2. What if Jupiter is Debiliated & having neech bhang also in 12th house in above case

respected sir,
please reply
regards

[Khoo Hock Leong]

Hi anilesh

You have to memorise them based on their fixed placements. You can use Astrboy's Nakshatra post as a guide.

Like for Cancer, it starts with 4th pada ie. only 1 pada of Puna, followed by all 4 padas of Pushya ie. the whole of Pushya and then all 4 padas of Alesha ie. the whole of Alesha.

I mean you should know right (sorry for the Singlish), after studying Astrology for so long? It should have been ingrained in your mind whetherJHora gives the position or not.

Astroboy's post I think give the position using the 360 degree format.

Warmest Regards
Hock Leong

[surya]

Maybe, (found this on the 'net) this link might help with the nakshatras.....

http://trintrin.com/astro/TRANSIT_WHEEL.jpg

regards,
S

[Khoo Hock Leong]

Hi

Next principle .....

Mercury is the only Graha which rules and exalts in the same sign. That sign is Virgo.

Thus it is in a unique position by having its Neecha Bhanga when it is in Pisces and angular to the Moon unlike the other planets which requires another planet which is the lord of the sign in which this planet currently in debilitation gets exalted.

Thus for example, Jupiter in Capricorn requires Venus angular to the Moon to satisfy the exaltation dictum of having Jupiter's neecha cancelled but Mercury just need by itself if placed in Pisces to be angular to the Moon to have its neecha cancelled.

Warmest Regards
Hock Leong

[Dev]

Hi Khoo:
Mercury is the only Graha which rules and exalts in the same sign. That sign is Virgo.

Does not that make mercury doublky powerful when he is there? Foe eg. if the exalted house also happens to be navamsa lagna and mercury happens to be atmakaraka(irrespective of which houses he rules in the rasi chart), would he not be bound to do good?

Dev

[Khoo Hock Leong]

Hi Dev

Yes, that would be doubly good.

But what I am talking about here is what happens if Mercury is placed in Pisces and gets Neecha? How do we get its Neecha cancelled?

All that is required is that it be angular to the Moon. That's all. No need to involved another planet like Venus being angular to the Moon in the case of Jupiter in Capricorn in Neecha.

Only two parties are required for Bhanga to occur when Mercury is in Pisces. Just Mercury itself and the Moon. So we need not train our eyes to look for another celestial body in the chart. Also this post is to remind astrologers in case they overlook this fact that Mercury because being in exaltation and ruling Virgo, the fact that Moon can just be angular to Mercury in Pisces and the Neecha gets cancelled. Sometimes astrologers get so caught up in the usual procedure of finding certain things in the chart that they overlook some exceptional procedure.

Warmest Regards
Hock Leong

[Dev]

Hi Khoo:

Yes, I did read the first part and understand that well. Being a house of exaltation as well as own house for mercury, Kanya sign is special. So also when in Pisces, there is a special neecha bhanga when it is in kendra to the moon.
Yes. it is likely that astrologers may overlook this simple way in which mercury gets neechabhanga, they may be looking for jupiter or venus to see if they can cause a neechabhanga.

Anyway I just took up one sentence which applies to me and asked you the question since you know budha is exalted in lagna in navamsa for me, he is also my atmakaraka. When you talked of double strength, I wanted to ensure that in my case also.

Thank you Khoo for this information.

Dev

[anilesh47]

Hii Dev,

Your mercury in exaltation is comes in trine from moon. So can we count trine as for neech bhanga?

Dear Khoo,

My rashi asc is virgo and there is an exchange of retro sat and retro mer so mercury acts as exalted in asc in rashi but retro mer gets debilitated in 11th house in navmansha. Do u think is there any neech bhagna?

Regards
Nilesh

[Khoo Hock Leong]

Hi Anilesh

Neither your Mercury nor Saturn is in Neecha, so there is no Neecha Bhanga yoga to talk about.

ASSUMING even if let's say Saturn in Virgo is considered Neecha (which it is NOT), the exchange does not cause Saturn's neecha to be cancelled because the exchange of Saturn must be with Venus which is lord of Saturn's exaltaion sign ie. Libra and not the exalted lord or natural ruler lord which Saturn is in ie. Virgo.

So you have everything mixed up.

Warmest Regards
Hock Leong

[Khoo Hock Leong]

Hi

Just realise my analogy using Jupiter in Capricorn in its fall is wrong. The exaltaion sign of Jupiter is Cancer. And the lord is the Moon!

Now one way to cancel Neecha as I mentioned is that the lord of the exaltation sign (Cancer in this case) of the debilitated planet (Jupiter in this case) is angular to the Moon.

So how can the Moon be angular to itself?

You can't. So how can we make the Moon strong? By having the required condition that the Moon be angular to the Ascendant!

Venus does not come into the picture in this case. My mistake!

Warmest Regards
Hock Leong

[Dev]

Hi Anil:

Yes, mercury is 9th from moon and moon is 5th from mercury. But mercury is not debilitated for me in the rasi but moon is. And his is also in the star of mercury jyeshta. But then moon gets neecha bhanga in rasi due to exaltation of mars but mercury in navamsa cannot contribute to rasi neechabhanga of moon by being in 9th house from moon.

Dev

[Khoo Hock Leong]

Hi Anilesh

My last reply to you is wrong as well!

Yes, assuming that your Saturn in Virgo is Neecha (which it is not), then the exchange youga between your Mercury and Saturn does lift Saturn out of Neecha.

Besides exalation consideration for Neechan Bhanga, which is Libra the exaltation sign of Saturn, the other Neecha Bhanga condition is the lord of the sign which the planet is debilitated is placed in, in this case Virgo (the ASSUMED debilitated sign of Saturn) where Saturn is placed.

But then Saturn is not debilitated in Virgo.

Warmest Regards
Hock Leong

[anilesh47]

Dear khoo,

Thanks for ur reply. I am asking about navmansha, what if debilitate mercury placed in 11th house navmansha chart. But my mercury is being the ascendent lord in Rashi chart and gets simhasana status. So do u think it's neecha in navmansha gets cancelled?

[mannu21]

hi KHL

Just curious to know, if there is exchange between two debilated planets, does it qualify for Neecha Bhang ?

My limited understanding of astrology says the answer is NO; but someone I came across says it does. Whats your take on it.

Regards

[Khoo Hock Leong]

Hi Anilesh

A planet's debilitation is only cancelled via certain ways and these steps I have listed in one of my earlier posts for example placed in a good Shatiamsa, being exalted in Navamsa, the debilitated planet's exalation sign the lord is angular to Moon and Ascendant (or Moon only), the lord of the sign which the debilitated planet is in is angular to Moon and Asecndant (or Moon only) etc.

Amsa Bala strength does not qualify for the cancellation of debilitation.

But good placement in Shatiamsa (a non-malefic D-60 division) does. So if your Amsa Bala strength include the a good placement in D-60 division then yes, it does count. Otherwise no.

Also in other scenarios where the Amsa Bala strength includes the exaltation placement of the planet in Navamsa, then again the Amsa Bala strength does count. Otherwise no.

Warmest Regards
Hock Leong

[Khoo Hock Leong]

Hi Mannu

Exchange between two debilitated planets mean that the two debilitated planets try to forge a close link to bring themselves up in line to each other's standard. It is a lot of hard work but that is also exactly what cancellation of debilitation is all about.

Yes, it is a Neecha Bhanga condition but a lot havoc would have to be gone through before the blissful state is reached. There is a case study of one forum member who had an exchange between his 12th and 4th Bhavas between Moon and Cancer. He uprooted himself from Inida, lived in the USA and endured privation from his mother-in-law before finally moving out and stayed independently on his own (there was a time period for him to wait at his mother-in-law's place before he could move to his new home).

Warmest Regards
Hock Leong

[chavitarun]

Hi

Next principle .....

Vargottama (planet in the same sign in both D-1 and D-9) is strong and good even if the said planet is ruling a Dusthana. It means that the planet has a consistent way in handling the affairs of the house in which it rules in the Rasi chart (because of Rasi Tulya Navamsa).

Note : Navamsa Tulya Rasi ie. the other way of superimposition from Rasi to Navamsa is sually more for transit purposes.

Warmest Regards
Hock Leong

Dear sir,
1. Venus is lord of 6th & 11th for Sagitarius is vargottam . Will it give good result result or will
it produce bad result in its MD & AD. In birth chart venus is in 9th house with Ketu & Mars.

2. Mar( Natural Malefic) Lord of 5th & 12th with venus in 9th house will spoil venus or will be good ,
as it is said that lord of triKona in another trikona is good

3. if maleficiecy of MArs gets reduced when placed in Trikona house

regards

dear sir
awaiting your valued advice
regards

[anilesh47]

Hii Khoo, Thanks for ur reply. Now i understood.

In D-60 chart again my mercury being debilitate but placed with jupiter in 12th house and Venus is in kendra from moon. So it can consider as neechbhanga of my debilitation mercury in navmansha. Right khoo?

Oh, i forgot to mention that there is a exchange yoga between Jupi and mer in Navmansha chart. and the Jupi-ven is placed in 2nd house of navmansha. So it might be consider as a neechbhanga. Right?

Regards
Nilesh

[mannu21]

Thanks Khoo

I was under the impression that exchange between debilitated planets weakens them even more.

[chavitarun]

Khoo Hock Leong sir
still awaiting reply from you for my post regarding vergotama planet