Job or Business

[R V RAMANAN]

Dear sonu,
sorry. it was a typo.mars as the third lord shud give a drive towards business and mars signifies real estates.i said venus pd because the 8th to jupiter can give un earned wealth and that is owned by venus. the lagna lord transitting that house and tht too in an exalted state can certainly give you some easy monetary benefits.

regards
ramanan

[astro123]

Dear sonu,
sorry. it was a typo.mars as the third lord shud give a drive towards business and mars signifies real estates.i said venus pd because the 8th to jupiter can give un earned wealth and that is owned by venus. the lagna lord transitting that house and tht too in an exalted state can certainly give you some easy monetary benefits.

regards
ramanan

I think u prob mean lagna lord Saturn transit from nov 11 to libra..currently he is still in virgo

[swamykool]

Sonu ji,

The Period is Sat-Sat-Rahu. Sat is the Karak of the 10th H and Rahu sits in the 10th H from Lg. Sat is the 8th L from Moon and 12th L from Lg. Sat aspects 10th H and 10th L from Moon (Ju), Sat also aspects 11th H and 11th L from Lg (Ju). In the Rashi Sat-Rahu is 6/8 and neutral to each other by panchadha maitri.

Sat was transiting UPh from 09/02/2010 to 31/08/2010. UPh is your Naidhana Tara (death). From UPh Sat was creating a direct vedha to Sco (10th H) and USha, your Sanghatika Tara (calamities).

Rahu was transiting PSha fron 15/02/2010 to 27/09/2010. From here it created vedha on Ubh, your Vainashika Tara and natal Sun and Jup. It also created a vedha to Ardra and natal Sat and Moon. This I think triggered the event.

Remember Sat and Moon sits in the 5th H from Lg and Moon owns 5th H from Jup. Loss of position, dishonour, fall from power is also seen from the 5th H. Afflictions to the 5th H is very imp for calculating job related calamities.

thats all I can think of.

swamykool

[rishirahul]

On further checking up, the navamsa conditions did not apply as per N.C. or sss with savan year.

Rishi - You didnt get my point. There is no complication, no detail, just one thing that can give marriage. i.e. Jupiter transit over venus, irrespective of whatever details ayanamsa etc. You asked for a justification how i got married so i gave.

Rasi
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1) Secondly, if you look at Vimshottari It was Jup-Rahu. Rahu is in UL aspected by Jup. During marriage Jup was in 5th with Rahu. Jup-Rahu can give marriage even as per Rasi.

2) Jupiter transitting over AK can also give marriage as there is a direct aspect on 5,7,9 from AK.

3) Point 2 is repeated from moon.


Navamsa
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1) Now you say that with sss and savana year you did not get any conditions. Jupiter transit over venus is the firstmost condition. So, this is firstmost thing not taken into consideration.

2) Jupiters transit over 9th house in navamsa is over and above its transit over venus and 7th navamsa lord Mars. By this virtue it aspects lagna navamsa, 5th and already in 9th. Jupiter also aspects Rahu in navamsa in transit and is conjunct Rahu in rasi during transit.

Kalachakra dasha you must have taken default settings. The settings have to be different.

If you see, I have provided enough evidence from Rasi and Navamsa perspective both. I have also bifurcated as an edit so that you can just take a rasi glance and see how those aged astrologers evaluate by taking only 12 houses in one chart.

Can you tell me why all these conditions cannot give marriage ? And also whether you checked these or not in the first place ?

Hi astrosonu,

You miss my point totally. I was talking of some other chart; not yours while talking of sss and kalchakradasa.

The D charts give more detailed factors. But the rasi chart on its own + its transits should allow incidents or at least point to it.
I am not discounting the fact that Kumbha is not your Lagna at all; but just mentioned that since the 7th. from the lagna/its lord did not undergo any major transits (not bringing in other variables as D charts, or UL, as UL can have a wider meaning); it could mean that your proper marriage life did/could not begin then, though the dasas could have indicated it.

If we take D chart transits along with it the variables become more.. leading to more easier justifications/more possibilities.

Jyotish and other astrology has so many variables, theories, possibilities etc. that we cannot get the REAL/TRUE picture; and even if we think we get it is ARGUABLE, with additional variables like ayanamsas, types of years etc around.

As Ramanan ji said, the 7th. lord in the 2nd. house gives upliftment through spouse.
Surely you must have faced betterment in career after your marriage, and he is correct.

I found the case interesting to LEARN from, which is why I butted in without being asked (my self interest).

In any case taking the LEAST variables (as palm cannot be used here); after approx 6 months from now you land up in something thought of from Feb/March and June 2011.... but this leads to much frustrations.

March to June 2013 will lead to unexpected & unwanted bubbles in progress; but you will have your good confidence with you.

Your sani as per K.P. will keep your profession well lighted, but you will not feel good as its 8th from Mars(thats not K.P.).

I havent yet gone deeper as I use Palmistry to find the main skeletons in predicting as it has minimal variables in terms of timings etc.




RishiRahul

[Nitin21]

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[rishirahul]

Rasi
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1) Secondly, if you look at Vimshottari It was Jup-Rahu. Rahu is in UL aspected by Jup. During marriage Jup was in 5th with Rahu. Jup-Rahu can give marriage even as per Rasi.

2) Jupiter transitting over AK can also give marriage as there is a direct aspect on 5,7,9 from AK.

3) Point 2 is repeated from moon.

But the rasi chart on its own + its transits should allow incidents or at least point to it.

Hi Rishi - I gave the above three points from Rasi chart only. Navamsa there are 2 indicators. I did not use any other divisional chart for simplicity.
RishiRahul=FI had just mentioned let us leave charts other than rasi out at present as the birth time is near the junction point + the bhava lagna effects change much + was desiring some BARE analysis with least variables around.
transit Jupiter in 2/5/7/9/11 from moon can give marriage=5 out of 12 houses=42% out of 100% variable


Although it is surprising that we talk about marriage and not talk about navamsa.
RishiRahul = the reason mentioned above; and before too. In such case why should it be surprising when other ayanamsas and years systems, and I wanted just a transit analysis in terms of the signification houses.

I thought you did not want the D Charts and wanted to see how Rasi exposes the marriage event. !! Palmistry we can give a rest for now, since we have not even crossed Rasi. I myself have been a palmist.
RishiRahul =Let palmistry rest then since you know it.


I have attached the Rasi chart here on the day of marriage 30-Nov-2001. The chart shows Jupiter traversing 5th house of purva punya sthana. Jupiters transit on lagna, 5,9 can trigger marriage.
RishiRahul = transit Jupiter in 2/5/7/9/11 from moon can give marriage=5 out of 12 houses=42% out of 100% variable



Lagna Lord Saturn and exalted moon is also aspecting Sun.

Jupiter is transitting over moon sign. This can also trigger marriage as 7th to moon is also kalatra sthana.

Jupiters transit over AK can also induce marriage as i mentioned earlier.

IF you take the retro part of Jup then it is also working from its previous sign, thereby aspecting 5,7,9 lords.

These are all Rasi indicators only. No D chart involved. Do you still think Rasi does not show enough indicators or pointers to marriage ?
RishiRahul= Too many variables here again.
Anyway what does it matter when I have given predictions from my perception here= least bare skeletons.

[Nitin21]

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[Abhisheik]

Sorry for an OT question.

SwamyKool ji mentioned something about Shubh Kartri Yoga.

Though the classical S.K postulates benefics placement in 2 and 12 from planet/house under consideration, can we use aspect of benefics on 2nd and 12th from house under question?

eg. Venus in 8th and jupiter in 6th, does it mean lagna will be in Shubh Kartri Yoga?

Also can this be extended to more than one house?

to illustrate, take the last example, venus aspects 2nd and Jupiter 10th. Then can we say that house No. 10 to lagna are in Shubh Kartri Yoga?

Sorry to hijack your thread Bhai

Regards
Abhisheik

[chaks]

It may to some extent. There is a whole lot of difference between having two very good, friendly neighbours and having two bad/neutral neighbours but under watch of good friends of yours. In the later case, there will certainly be problems but you may get help of your friends to resolve them.

[rishirahul]

Dear astrosonu,

hi rishi,

Your replies are vague sir, not astrological. Those are not variables. Those are definite pointers. If u exclude these only 12 empty boxes will be seen. There cannot be an analysis more surface level than this.
RishiRahul =If you have the impression of vagueness it is because I am not making use of D charts and Arudhas here. My choice as earlier mentioned (also given below):=
But here we are talking of lagna in rasi chhidra + bhava chart changes.
In addition to this, I find participants using different ayanamsas and year systems; in which case talking of deeper divisions will not lead to cohesive answers/discussion in cross purposes.
THUS, keeping in view the above, I decided to use the BARE transits and rasi charts.
Will you still call me vague?

If darakaraka in 7th to ak and moon cannot give marriage with jup support in 5th, then what else can ?

The skeleton is right here and jupiter need not have 100 ppercent access to 12 houses to give marriage, so that 42 percent thing is just a misnormer. Even one glance of jupiter is enough.
RishiRahul =I was talking of the justification (since I was keeping to bare skeletons here) that Jupiter ‘s favorable gochara may or may not confirm marriage; as the circumstance of marriage may or may not be favorable when it happened. I am talking in general.


Regarding navamsa even if u take time diff of 20 mins + / - jupiter would still be traversing over venus in navamsa. So your reluctance on navamsa is also on the grounds of time junction is also confusing.

RishiRahul = My reluctance to use navamsa is answered above.

]You had desired that I use whichever system I please and give my insights. I did that. I decided to keep to bare rasi and its transits in this thread, for reasons mentioned above; and give some predictions.



RishiRahul

[Nitin21]

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[rishirahul]

Hi astrosonu,

You miss my point totally. I was talking of some other chart; not yours while talking of sss and kalchakradasa.

The D charts give more detailed factors. But the rasi chart on its own + its transits should allow incidents or at least point to it.
I am not discounting the fact that Kumbha is not your Lagna at all; but just mentioned that since the 7th. from the lagna/its lord did not undergo any major transits (not bringing in other variables as D charts, or UL, as UL can have a wider meaning); it could mean that your proper marriage life did/could not begin then, though the dasas could have indicated it.

If we take D chart transits along with it the variables become more.. leading to more easier justifications/more possibilities.

Jyotish and other astrology has so many variables, theories, possibilities etc. that we cannot get the REAL/TRUE picture; and even if we think we get it is ARGUABLE, with additional variables like ayanamsas, types of years etc around.

As Ramanan ji said, the 7th. lord in the 2nd. house gives upliftment through spouse.
Surely you must have faced betterment in career after your marriage, and he is correct.

I found the case interesting to LEARN from, which is why I butted in without being asked (my self interest).

In any case taking the LEAST variables (as palm cannot be used here); after approx 6 months from now you land up in something thought of from Feb/March and June 2011.... but this leads to much frustrations.

March to June 2013 will lead to unexpected & unwanted bubbles in progress; but you will have your good confidence with you.

Your sani as per K.P. will keep your profession well lighted, but you will not feel good as its 8th from Mars(thats not K.P.).

I havent yet gone deeper as I use Palmistry to find the main skeletons in predicting as it has minimal variables in terms of timings etc.




RishiRahul

hi rishi,

U keep mentioning bare skeleton. Where have i used divisional charts in discussions with u ?

In latest snapshot, the discussion has gone to bare minimal.

I dont understand what are u analysing and heading where ...

Can u tell me what is more bare skeleton than this ? And pl do not deviate the discussion to div charts. i have nto claimed anything other than rasi, which is what you wanted.





Dear astrosonu,

I am aware that you are a brilliant astrologer! Even then I opted to predict without you asking me; and I did keeping thate rasi + transit considerations only for reasons mentioned above.. for which I did not want to bring in divisional considerations, as you will see in the above posts.

However the little predictions, keeping to the rasi chart only are mentioned above.

I may repeat that (even the wonderful Narasimhaji mentioned) there are some wonderful Jyotishes who make some brilliant predictions keeping to the bare rasi charts.
I just made an effort to try keep to that.

Regarding....... "I dont understand what are u analysing and heading where ..."= I tried to answer about your near future above; and would not like to head anywhere.

Thank you for your time,

RishiRahul

[lovacrs]

Cool ji,

I am confused by these two set of statements of yours in different posts.

Your post on first job

From 18/081996 to 14/12/1996 Sat was transiting the 2nd Pada of Uttarabhadrapada. Karma karak Sat was conjunct with Natal Jup, transiting the 10th H from moon. Sat was also transiting over your Nav Sat and aspecting Nav Moon, your Nav 10th L.

your post on job loss

The Period is Sat-Sat-Rahu. Sat is the Karak of the 10th H and Rahu sits in the 10th H from Lg. Sat is the 8th L from Moon and 12th L from Lg. Sat aspects 10th H and 10th L from Moon (Ju), Sat also aspects 11th H and 11th L from Lg (Ju). In the Rashi Sat-Rahu is 6/8 and neutral to each other by panchadha maitri.

Why does the same Sa work differently. It does not appear to be due to differing relationship between Sa and dasa lords either.
In the first case the period was Ju-Me-Me. I was under the impression that for Sa's aspect to work it should be the lord of MD/SD/AD.

[swamykool]

lovacres ji,

Sorry for the late reply, my broad band went out of order so couldn't login.

To answer your question. Aspects and conjunctions in transit works all the time. Aspects in the natal chart are dasha dependent. First we see the natal chart whether a MD-AD-PD combo promises something, good or bad. Then we see whether planets in transit are apt to deliver the results and when. Transits never deliver the result that the dasha does not promise.

The same planet will do good and bad depending upon the dasha and combinations. For example, a good 2nd L gives family wealth. It also brings death.

Dasha of the LL always gives mixed results.

regards
swamykool

[mannu21]

Astrosonu ji

Sorry for this; but if you can spare some time to give your inputs on my following post

http://www.lightonvedicastrology.com/ph ... 19&t=10959

Warm regards

Mannu

[Nitin21]

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[mannu21]

Thanks for your reply astrosonu ji

Take your time, will wait for your inputs.

Kind regards

Mannu

[milredr]

Sharma ji,

you are right in your observation about him!!!...No wonder too much of laziness make a bright boy really dull person.

OMG In all the 100 pages I only saw advise of how destiny is pre destined. Now thats become laziness. Wow. How spiritual

[swamykool]

Milred are we talking of Gup-Shup Railways?

[milredr]

Well yes actually.....

[Nitin21]

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[swamykool]

mail mila bhai?

[Nitin21]

mail mila bhai?

bhai aapse touch mein aaney ke baad sirf femail check karta hoon.. mail nahin..

[sita]

whats going on? I hope no bomb blast in this thread

[swamykool]

Ekbar thoda kashti uthalo aur check karlo. Our moderators are becoming extremely adept at urban guerilla warfare. I thought I was the one who had a little training.