There is nothing wrong in it.... we love and follow so many people....even I love Salman Khan alot.
Spirituality, Astrology, Destiny, B. Geeta, Celibacy
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Basab
Dev,
It is abnormal to keep grieving about someone, who has died, forever. That means the person is stuck up in that point. I have heard a psychiatrist say on radio that when a person you love dies, you feel tremedous grief for the person at that time, but an year later, you can't feel that grief, even if want to. That is not possible, except in cases where the person has become stuck up with that thought, which is not normal at all.
About God, who said God is there? Where is the proof? People who can't face the reality of the world think of a super power, who will give them protection, and call him God. It is a sign of weakness, nothing else. It is sheer fantasy. Try to be strong and accept the reality of life, forgetting about God and past lives and all the justifications, which you are giving for your problems in life.
It is abnormal to keep grieving about someone, who has died, forever. That means the person is stuck up in that point. I have heard a psychiatrist say on radio that when a person you love dies, you feel tremedous grief for the person at that time, but an year later, you can't feel that grief, even if want to. That is not possible, except in cases where the person has become stuck up with that thought, which is not normal at all.
About God, who said God is there? Where is the proof? People who can't face the reality of the world think of a super power, who will give them protection, and call him God. It is a sign of weakness, nothing else. It is sheer fantasy. Try to be strong and accept the reality of life, forgetting about God and past lives and all the justifications, which you are giving for your problems in life.
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Basab:
I dont think anyone can ever talk to u or convince u. Watching movies during childhood is common but even as one grows, if that is the only thing he does apart from listening to songs, eating and sleeping, may be he would only be in a situation u are in. May be there are people who are feeding u and so you dont have to face realities in life and so maya alone matters to u ie maya within the maya. I cannot write in bengali for u, if u cannot understand my english which is very much understandable, there is no point in writing or replying to u. U always argue with no logic in it and never accept your mistakes. So forget it and dont reply but write to others who are happy reading your mails and whose replies are convincing and pleasing to u.
Dev
I dont think anyone can ever talk to u or convince u. Watching movies during childhood is common but even as one grows, if that is the only thing he does apart from listening to songs, eating and sleeping, may be he would only be in a situation u are in. May be there are people who are feeding u and so you dont have to face realities in life and so maya alone matters to u ie maya within the maya. I cannot write in bengali for u, if u cannot understand my english which is very much understandable, there is no point in writing or replying to u. U always argue with no logic in it and never accept your mistakes. So forget it and dont reply but write to others who are happy reading your mails and whose replies are convincing and pleasing to u.
Dev
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Basab
I feel pity for you. I just now said I don't watch TV more than 2 hours, and you still saying that I watch movies whole day. First read my posts properly, then reply back. About English, don't even try to teach me that. I can show how many grammatical mistakes are there in your posts, right now. Learn the language properly, first.Dev wrote:I dont think anyone can ever talk to u or convince u. Watching movies during childhood is common but even as one grows, if that is the only thing he does apart from listening to songs, eating and sleeping, may be he would only be in a situation u are in.
You have become stuck up in your grief about your mother's death, come out of it, and you will find the world more beautiful than it seems to you now.
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Basab
Well, I have read lots of books on spirituality, but in not a single one I have come across this idea that spirituality goes hand-in-hand with materialism. If you want me to suggest you some books to understand spirituality, I can do that for you, but if you want me to write what it means, I will prefer not to because it will lead to nothing, but baseless arguments, which I am not in a mood for, now. But one thing I will say: if what is spirituality gets to be decided by anyone and everyone, then a playboy, who plays around with the lives of many girls, may call himself spiritual, finding spirituality in it, and then, no one can criticize him because he will say, that is his defintion of spirituality.
milredr wrote:Couldnt check the dictionary but googled. This is what wikipedia says. No where it mentions anything about materialism......Was too long to cut and paste.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spirituality
Regards
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Basab:
I dont have to learn english from u, it is a forum where astrology has the main focus and spirituality to some extent. So noone bothers to write with perfection even if they can. I find mistakes in yours too.
May be because of your yogakaraka sat aspecting lagna, u are just living happily and dreaming all time.
I dont need your advice. Keep it to yourself and think of your own life and live the way you want to and dont start writing rubbish again and again. I know u dont have to do anything serious in life, so u write all this rubbish. May be u did not lose anyone dear to u, if only u had, u would know the pain, not now.
The saying Idleman's mind is devil's workshop applies to u.
People in this forum write on serious issues and it is not a forum for u, just watch videos of your favorite actress and enjoy your whole life talking about her and seeing her in the TV. We all will learn from u since that is the way one has to live to be happy. That is reality. You preach and we will practise. May be even the Saints in Himalayas will be inspired by you, they will stop their tapas and fall at your feet for showing them the way that watching your favorite actress could give them the real happiness and why not, even moksha.
Dev
I dont have to learn english from u, it is a forum where astrology has the main focus and spirituality to some extent. So noone bothers to write with perfection even if they can. I find mistakes in yours too.
May be because of your yogakaraka sat aspecting lagna, u are just living happily and dreaming all time.
I dont need your advice. Keep it to yourself and think of your own life and live the way you want to and dont start writing rubbish again and again. I know u dont have to do anything serious in life, so u write all this rubbish. May be u did not lose anyone dear to u, if only u had, u would know the pain, not now.
The saying Idleman's mind is devil's workshop applies to u.
People in this forum write on serious issues and it is not a forum for u, just watch videos of your favorite actress and enjoy your whole life talking about her and seeing her in the TV. We all will learn from u since that is the way one has to live to be happy. That is reality. You preach and we will practise. May be even the Saints in Himalayas will be inspired by you, they will stop their tapas and fall at your feet for showing them the way that watching your favorite actress could give them the real happiness and why not, even moksha.
Dev
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Basab:
There is absolutely no sense in what rubbish you write, that too as such long statements, then why question about the language. There are some who write with some grammar mistakes but extremely useful posts. Your posts carry nothing informative to anyone. Their contents are rubbish and though there are mistakes in the language part too, the content is so bad that the language part gets diluted.
Idleman's mind is devil's workshop is the right saying. If you dont even know this, dont try to correct others. You may have to go to class one if u have to learn all this.
Dev
There is absolutely no sense in what rubbish you write, that too as such long statements, then why question about the language. There are some who write with some grammar mistakes but extremely useful posts. Your posts carry nothing informative to anyone. Their contents are rubbish and though there are mistakes in the language part too, the content is so bad that the language part gets diluted.
Idleman's mind is devil's workshop is the right saying. If you dont even know this, dont try to correct others. You may have to go to class one if u have to learn all this.
Dev
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Basab
Stay in that fool's paradise that you write sensible stuff and I write rubbish. Everyone knows who writes sensible things, and who writes rubbish. Show me what rubbish I have written, and let everyone say that, and I will stop writing here. And show what wrong English I have written.
I know you are jealous that I have found happiness in life, and you even after being successful are not happy, but I understand. Learn to find happiness in small things, and you won't be unhappy. Don't keep thinking that you will die someday and die a coward's death every day. No one worries so much about death like you do. Recently my mom's mother died, and she is not behaving like you. My aunt died an year back, and her son and daughter are not behaving like you. They have moved on with life. So don't get stuck in that one thought and move on with life. That is what I will suggest. About actress, yes, I am thinking of meditating on her now, and very soon I will construct a temple in her name.
I know you are jealous that I have found happiness in life, and you even after being successful are not happy, but I understand. Learn to find happiness in small things, and you won't be unhappy. Don't keep thinking that you will die someday and die a coward's death every day. No one worries so much about death like you do. Recently my mom's mother died, and she is not behaving like you. My aunt died an year back, and her son and daughter are not behaving like you. They have moved on with life. So don't get stuck in that one thought and move on with life. That is what I will suggest. About actress, yes, I am thinking of meditating on her now, and very soon I will construct a temple in her name.
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I dont want to stoop to your level. You are actually luckiest one who does nothing and living when someone else is feeding you. I cannot imagine such a life. You have quarrelled with everyone in the forum and there are not even a handful of people here who even read your message and reply. I dont have to show anything of the rubbish u have written or mistakes because u never accept your mistakes. There is absolutely no stuff in that, just some rubbish thing. Write your rubbish and see if there are some who pity u and reply like me.
Remember, your favorite actress may also die one day. In that case, you dont die for her, dont sacrifice your life for her since u may make your parents unhappy. Face death boldly. You will die one day and your fav actress too but noone knows when.
Dev
Remember, your favorite actress may also die one day. In that case, you dont die for her, dont sacrifice your life for her since u may make your parents unhappy. Face death boldly. You will die one day and your fav actress too but noone knows when.
Dev
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Basab
I have earned it, sir: in my previous lives I have fed them all with my own money, and so, now they are returning the favour, by feeding me. I know, not many people reply to my posts, but how many replies to your posts? I can't think of many. I don't make mistakes, so why should I accept them? Well, I don't know if anyone will pity me, but you will definitely pity me, I know, and then my Goddess's (fav actress) blessings are there with me, always, so I don't have to worry about anything.
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Basab
You are right in your guess. 
sita wrote:ok....thnx for nice explanation... I guess I m highly spiritual in my materialistic world
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Basab
Sita,
All people are not interested in movies and serials, so they don't understand how someone can love actors and actresses so much. Anyway, it doesn't matter what anyone thinks.
All people are not interested in movies and serials, so they don't understand how someone can love actors and actresses so much. Anyway, it doesn't matter what anyone thinks.
sita wrote:Hi
There is nothing wrong in it.... we love and follow so many people....even I love Salman Khan alot.
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Sudarshang
All that is not Jnana Yoga ...Jnana yoga refers to "Swaroopa Jnana" which we get purely by God's grace, not through in individual human effort. Swaroopa Jnana refers to having "Divya Drishti" in order to really see who He is, Who we are, and what is the relationship between Him and Jeevatma.Basab wrote:Yes, jnana yoga is definitely a path to God. It is the path of discrimination, but then, it is not about reading books on spirituality and discussing that topic on a forum, but about discriminating in real life between maya and truth: that everything is maya, and only God is real.aseem82 wrote:Yes I agree with you but isn't Jnana Yoga- the path to God also!!!
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Sudarshang
But when you got the coin, you got it with both the sides?Basab wrote:Sudarshang ji,Sudarshang wrote:Aren't you chasing a Mrig-trishna? Arent't they two sides of the same coin? You are seeing one, and saying I dont have the other!
I didn't understand what Mrig-trishna means. Well, yes, they are two sides of the same coin, but I, like everyone else, don't want the side of the coin, which I have got.
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Basab
I agree.Sudarshang wrote:All that is not Jnana Yoga ...Jnana yoga refers to "Swaroopa Jnana" which we get purely by God's grace, not through in individual human effort. Swaroopa Jnana refers to having "Divya Drishti" in order to really see who He is, Who we are, and what is the relationship between Him and Jeevatma.
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Basab
I don't think everyone gets both sides of the coin. Some gets only misery and no happiness.Sudarshang wrote:But when you got the coin, you got it with both the sides?
PranaamsSudarshang wrote:All that is not Jnana Yoga ...Jnana yoga refers to "Swaroopa Jnana" which we get purely by God's grace, not through in individual human effort. Swaroopa Jnana refers to having "Divya Drishti" in order to really see who He is, Who we are, and what is the relationship between Him and Jeevatma.Basab wrote:Yes, jnana yoga is definitely a path to God. It is the path of discrimination, but then, it is not about reading books on spirituality and discussing that topic on a forum, but about discriminating in real life between maya and truth: that everything is maya, and only God is real.aseem82 wrote:Yes I agree with you but isn't Jnana Yoga- the path to God also!!!
i feel all this overdefining can sometimes lead away from what really "IS"
and i remember
"Shabdajaalam mahaaranyam, chitta bhramana kaaranam"
dont you think?
suniti
"From the houses of the holy, we can watch the white doves go ..."
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Sudarshang
Dev
In the Sat sampradaya you get this knowledge at the time of death. He makes it possible by His grace. There is only one thing to do in order to get it - pancha-samskaram! These are His own words expressed by Swami Ramanuja in Sharanagati Gadyam.
In the Sat sampradaya you get this knowledge at the time of death. He makes it possible by His grace. There is only one thing to do in order to get it - pancha-samskaram! These are His own words expressed by Swami Ramanuja in Sharanagati Gadyam.
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Sudarshang
Suniti-jisuniti wrote: Pranaams
i feel all this overdefining can sometimes lead away from what really "IS"
and i remember
"Shabdajaalam mahaaranyam, chitta bhramana kaaranam"
dont you think?
suniti
With due respects to your knowledge:
Your statement is right, but only after a certain stage of evolution on the path to Moksha. Every individual is in a different stage. Shabdam predates creation. If you are able to perceive that He is the Vachyan of every spoken or written shabdam, the Jaalam will never happen. We are all only doing His kaingaryam. The letter "a" denotes Him. He is the creator of all languages. It is from His Lexicon that he decided to name Brahma as Brahma. He assigned Shiva's name as Shiva after that child started crying that I feel very dirty and lowly. He created Shabdam as the means for communicating and as a tool of understanding for the limited intelligence He has given us.
See SudarshanjiSudarshang wrote:
Suniti-ji
With due respects to your knowledge:
Your statement is right, but only after a certain stage of evolution on the path to Moksha. Every individual is in a different stage. Shabdam predates creation. If you are able to perceive that He is the Vachyan of every spoken or written shabdam, the Jaalam will never happen. We are all only doing His kaingaryam. The letter "a" denotes Him. He is the creator of all languages. It is from His Lexicon that he decided to name Brahma as Brahma. He assigned Shiva's name as Shiva after that child started crying that I feel very dirty and lowly. He created Shabdam as the means for communicating and as a tool of understanding for the limited intelligence He has given us.
i respect your knowledge and ideas also
but theres a famous saying that "Music is the space between two notes"
the notes are the manifest, the silence is unmanifest...
what i feel is instead overdefining ides or conceptions let them be
let the music play.....
you may not agree with me
and thats ok
i was just putting an idea out there thats all
suniti
"From the houses of the holy, we can watch the white doves go ..."
