jaynyc22 wrote:I had the worst three years of my life and I turned to spirituality and my whole life has turned around for the better.
Things have made a 360 degree turn in my life.
could you be more specfic about the time around which these happened?
Tantric/Spiritual Study Will I have sucess?
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sambhav2826
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hello jay ,manoj here ,you r going through rahu maha dasha and sun antra dasha,and this rahu maha dasha start in 1996 from that period u geting verse,now last year from 2009 rahu going on your janam saturn that is also not good,from 10 jun chandra antra dasha start with rahu maha dasha, because in your kundli moon is very power and shubh but lord of 3rd house is not that much benificial spacially take care your mum helth, and u r very angry person just control your anger than see ,i gone give u some remedy call one priest on your home and give him nice dinner or lunch nicelly and give some money as well, and keep one sqere(choras)piese of silver all way's in your pocket, you got one remedy as well kanya pujan(girl's worship),call 7 or 9 girls your home(age should be under 10 year's )
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rajat.kapoor5
Dear Jay,jaynyc22 wrote:I had the worst three years of my life and I turned to spirituality and my whole life has turned around for the better. I had legal issues, I was doing drugs, was racing cars doing things impulsively and taking out anger for no reason at all at anyone and everyone. I have no idea why. Things have made a 360 degree turn in my life. I dont know anything about astrology but maybe some of you learned ones can tell me if my past three years and my current status has anything to do with my stars/chart? I very much genuinely interested in studying tantra now and am learning from my guruji and I want to know if this is just a another risk taking phase or will this last or is it my destiny?
My name is Jay Mehta
DOB: September 22, 1988
TOB: 22:50
POB: Morbi, Gujarat, India ( 70:54 East - 22:49 North )
Please help me analyze my birthchart. I am willing to pay if anybody wants to go indepth with me.
Namaskar,
I have rectified your birth time to 22:48:46 as AK in Lagna in Navamsa chart doesn't justify here. Here are my inputs on your birth chart:
1. In your Navamsa chart, two and more malefics are in trines to Navamsa Lagna and are aspected by benefic and malefic planets both. This indicates that you will have expertise into black magic as well as white magic. But this magic will not be very strong and it will be more to make a living out of this knowledge. Do take care that you don't misuse your knowledge of black magic else it will add to bad karma in a big way.
2. Now why u faced so much problems? The reason is very simple in your chart. The Atmakaraka is placed in 9th house and it seems to be a very good placement. But Moon is in the house of Saturn and Saturn as dispositor of AK is placed in 8th house and is debilitated in 11th house from Navamsa Lagna indicating serious bad karmas from past birth. Also see AK is in Badhaka sign and Badhakesha is in 8th house.
3. I will suggest you to pray your Ista Devata and go out of the curse of Mercury by praying Vishnu.
Regards
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krishnagopal1968
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Dear Jay,
Your chart is a good one. Taurus rises with jupiter in it and lagna lord venus in 3rd house of courage. Your were running rahu dasa and only in rahu-venus your risk taking behaviour came into action. Otherwise jupiter in your vrisha lagna shows you are a calm and cool going person!
Because venus is the 6th lord also you were into conflicts in it's period. In your sun bhukti, it is 4th lord aspected by 12th lord mars and 9th lord saturn from 8th house , interest in spiritual knowledge arose in your being.
Rahu your dasa lord is in 8th lord jupiter star and it's rasi lord in 8th house too! A strong connection to 8th house is further added as 9th lord of sprituality in 8th house of non-conformity, hence interest in tantra
Now moon sub started. moon in 9th house aspected by venus from 3rd house. Though spiritual interest would continue, this is a period wherein you will find a new love interest! D9 also reinforces this. as moon-venus aspect in 1-7 axis.
But venus-moon opposition is not good for marriage or for success in love affairs. Atmost it would bring Confusion in emotionality vs sensuality!
But that may be needed for you as your future dasas are of jupiter and saturn with strong connection to 8th house. Your active life periods till 60 years of age lean towards 8th house issues. In this periods, you will experience moments of great bliss and worst agonies. but no worry, that is how all good people grow.
I would recommend Eckhart tolle's teachings for you. You may find Osho's teachings also interesting but the risk of too much indulgence, acting in reactive patterns is there in his teachings.
Music may appeal to you more and cool you better than tantras and mantras!! Try classical flutes or Osho music, specially bashos pond. please try "A bird on a wing" and " peaks and valleys"
wish u good luk.
Your chart is a good one. Taurus rises with jupiter in it and lagna lord venus in 3rd house of courage. Your were running rahu dasa and only in rahu-venus your risk taking behaviour came into action. Otherwise jupiter in your vrisha lagna shows you are a calm and cool going person!
Because venus is the 6th lord also you were into conflicts in it's period. In your sun bhukti, it is 4th lord aspected by 12th lord mars and 9th lord saturn from 8th house , interest in spiritual knowledge arose in your being.
Rahu your dasa lord is in 8th lord jupiter star and it's rasi lord in 8th house too! A strong connection to 8th house is further added as 9th lord of sprituality in 8th house of non-conformity, hence interest in tantra
Now moon sub started. moon in 9th house aspected by venus from 3rd house. Though spiritual interest would continue, this is a period wherein you will find a new love interest! D9 also reinforces this. as moon-venus aspect in 1-7 axis.
But venus-moon opposition is not good for marriage or for success in love affairs. Atmost it would bring Confusion in emotionality vs sensuality!
But that may be needed for you as your future dasas are of jupiter and saturn with strong connection to 8th house. Your active life periods till 60 years of age lean towards 8th house issues. In this periods, you will experience moments of great bliss and worst agonies. but no worry, that is how all good people grow.
I would recommend Eckhart tolle's teachings for you. You may find Osho's teachings also interesting but the risk of too much indulgence, acting in reactive patterns is there in his teachings.
Music may appeal to you more and cool you better than tantras and mantras!! Try classical flutes or Osho music, specially bashos pond. please try "A bird on a wing" and " peaks and valleys"
wish u good luk.
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thirthachengappa
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your 12th lord is in the 11th and is aspecting the 2nd. looks like you are spending your dough double quick. lock your treasures…… you might have nothing left one day. Your moon is in a papa Kartari and is Aspected by the 8th lord. I suggest you give up your dreams of Tantra and seek some medical help, get some counseling and if you are still on the dope, get helpn to kick your habit. Tantra is not something you play around with.
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krishnagopal1968
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Dear Tirtha ji,
Why such hard take on Tantra? Infact the word 'Tantra' means "technique" nothing else. Infact this native's dasa pattern indicates he is destined to experience some aspect of tantra. He might have done this in past lives too otherwise this pattern would not appear in his horoscope. Why I suggested to him to try music as it would be the better remedy to survive the periods of 8th lord's agony knowing well that his pattern may force him to experience some tantra whatever i suggest.
Let me share my views on Tantra here.
Tantra says all aspects are divine. no good or bad exists for it. In fact some view it as unless the unconscious is purified, we cannot enter into higher aspects of divine. That is why 8th house is included in Moksha trikona.
Most of the tantric techniques deal with forbidden things. General take, is three "MA"s
1. Matsya/mamsa,
2. Madhya
3. Maithuna
What is advised is to do things slowly. For example begin with taking very small quantities of alchohol, observe the change in consciousness. Doing every aspect maithuna very slowly and not getting into final orgasm for days/months. This they do by treating their woman as a mother or goddess, worship them daily and when the desire entirely disappears in them, then they have to for love!
Now what is stated in Vigyan Bhariva Tantra is many methods.
some are
1. 'Sky Gazing' .
2. 'remembering the union w/o embrace
3. looking into empty space between two
Now left hand tantra goes much more. In the book of "Aghora' methods like "Shava sadhana and Nara Bhali" are mentioned. But for that the native must have great courage and he must be a rare one. He would have travelled the paths of tantra for many lives.
However as there are dangers in all paths in "Tantra' the danger is once after their repressions are cleared, natives won't sit for meditation and enter into timelessness/mindlessness which is the ultimate goal. They miss again go into world, collect repressions and again come for Tantra!!!
In Kahjuraho temples, the sculptures are created for this reason only. The sadhak has to meditate for months looking at the erotic sculptures outside and once the repression is cleared,then only he is allowed to go inside the temple, which is just empty.
Why such hard take on Tantra? Infact the word 'Tantra' means "technique" nothing else. Infact this native's dasa pattern indicates he is destined to experience some aspect of tantra. He might have done this in past lives too otherwise this pattern would not appear in his horoscope. Why I suggested to him to try music as it would be the better remedy to survive the periods of 8th lord's agony knowing well that his pattern may force him to experience some tantra whatever i suggest.
Let me share my views on Tantra here.
Tantra says all aspects are divine. no good or bad exists for it. In fact some view it as unless the unconscious is purified, we cannot enter into higher aspects of divine. That is why 8th house is included in Moksha trikona.
Most of the tantric techniques deal with forbidden things. General take, is three "MA"s
1. Matsya/mamsa,
2. Madhya
3. Maithuna
What is advised is to do things slowly. For example begin with taking very small quantities of alchohol, observe the change in consciousness. Doing every aspect maithuna very slowly and not getting into final orgasm for days/months. This they do by treating their woman as a mother or goddess, worship them daily and when the desire entirely disappears in them, then they have to for love!
Now what is stated in Vigyan Bhariva Tantra is many methods.
some are
1. 'Sky Gazing' .
2. 'remembering the union w/o embrace
3. looking into empty space between two
Now left hand tantra goes much more. In the book of "Aghora' methods like "Shava sadhana and Nara Bhali" are mentioned. But for that the native must have great courage and he must be a rare one. He would have travelled the paths of tantra for many lives.
However as there are dangers in all paths in "Tantra' the danger is once after their repressions are cleared, natives won't sit for meditation and enter into timelessness/mindlessness which is the ultimate goal. They miss again go into world, collect repressions and again come for Tantra!!!
In Kahjuraho temples, the sculptures are created for this reason only. The sadhak has to meditate for months looking at the erotic sculptures outside and once the repression is cleared,then only he is allowed to go inside the temple, which is just empty.
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thirthachengappa
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KrishnaGopal ji, No hard feelings, But I have not taken a "hard take" take on Tantra. All I am saying is the it’s a “technique" that is difficult to learn, let alone master. I am not against Tantra..... In fact I am fascinated by it myself; point is there is no good guide or Guru. In Jays case he does not look cut out for it. Time will tell. You seem to have great faith in his ability to grasp the subject. I hold a dim view. Let us leave it at that. Thank you
PS : i have rarely seen a person with taurus lagna and 8th lord in lagna do anything spiritual and sustain it . sustaining it is the key. Guru while being the 8th is also the 11th, remember that. There is only so much he can do in Shukras Rasi.
PS : i have rarely seen a person with taurus lagna and 8th lord in lagna do anything spiritual and sustain it . sustaining it is the key. Guru while being the 8th is also the 11th, remember that. There is only so much he can do in Shukras Rasi.
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krishnagopal1968
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Thanks for the reply Tirtha Ji. I have only said he may do some aspect of tantra, not any great success. Whether he succeeds or fails is upto God. But atleast let us hope for positive.
Tirtha Ji, my understanding is any effort taken in one life may pay in that life or in succeeding ones. It need not sustain in one life. Kindly see this. why in the first place the very interest itself, which is a seed has come to him, if not for a past life influence?
please see jupiter in the star of moon, 3rd lord. 8th lord in the star of 3rd lord and lagna lord in 3rd house aspecting 3rd lord. 3rd house is 8th to 8th.
let us leave this tirtha ji.
Tirtha Ji, my understanding is any effort taken in one life may pay in that life or in succeeding ones. It need not sustain in one life. Kindly see this. why in the first place the very interest itself, which is a seed has come to him, if not for a past life influence?
please see jupiter in the star of moon, 3rd lord. 8th lord in the star of 3rd lord and lagna lord in 3rd house aspecting 3rd lord. 3rd house is 8th to 8th.
let us leave this tirtha ji.
Hello Jay,
I think the reason you have spiritual tendencies right now is that you are running the period of sun, owner of 4H, which has Ketu in it. Also, saturn is in 8th house, now transiting over sun.
I am assuming you are settled in US, once Rahu dasha is over, things will be totally different.. Thing in any case will stop taking such centerstage.
Your navamsha lagan is very strong, shows fortune.
Me- 2L & 5L is placed in 6th H (not good), however it is vargottam. All planets seem to be in friends house.
Jupiter is extremely strong- You might just go deeper in spritual and astrological studies. I do not see stable career as Saturn is placed in 8th house in rashi & deb. in navamsha.
Is there any career that you did study for? Are you in any kind of business or job?- Anything to do with accounts, finance etc.
Thanks!
I think the reason you have spiritual tendencies right now is that you are running the period of sun, owner of 4H, which has Ketu in it. Also, saturn is in 8th house, now transiting over sun.
I am assuming you are settled in US, once Rahu dasha is over, things will be totally different.. Thing in any case will stop taking such centerstage.
Your navamsha lagan is very strong, shows fortune.
Me- 2L & 5L is placed in 6th H (not good), however it is vargottam. All planets seem to be in friends house.
Jupiter is extremely strong- You might just go deeper in spritual and astrological studies. I do not see stable career as Saturn is placed in 8th house in rashi & deb. in navamsha.
Is there any career that you did study for? Are you in any kind of business or job?- Anything to do with accounts, finance etc.
Thanks!
Jay,
This makes things different. Rahu is a planet which deals with technology and the latest innovations. It is placed in 10th house, has no aspects except that of its own lord which is placed in 8th house.
Rahu also stands for research & 8th house stands for secrets.
Earlier, I was thinking of Mercury as it is 10L from AL, hence acc. & fin.
Going by above, I see you going for research (Rahu), maybe for NASA/ Defence (secrets), In D10, Moon is in 10th house. Sun in Lagna.
Call me in 5 years time & let me know, where you end up.
You may study Tantra as well, Rahu in nakshatra of Ketu, Saturn in 8th house of occult. Jupiter dasha is the next one.
Take care!
This makes things different. Rahu is a planet which deals with technology and the latest innovations. It is placed in 10th house, has no aspects except that of its own lord which is placed in 8th house.
Rahu also stands for research & 8th house stands for secrets.
Earlier, I was thinking of Mercury as it is 10L from AL, hence acc. & fin.
Going by above, I see you going for research (Rahu), maybe for NASA/ Defence (secrets), In D10, Moon is in 10th house. Sun in Lagna.
Call me in 5 years time & let me know, where you end up.
You may study Tantra as well, Rahu in nakshatra of Ketu, Saturn in 8th house of occult. Jupiter dasha is the next one.
Take care!
