Osama Bin Laden

[vivekb]

Hello Everyone...

Today morning, the US Govt Claimed that they had killed Osama Bin Laden. After that out of curiosity, i googled his birth details and found one speculative detail which was : 10th March,1957, 10:28 AM, Jiddah( Saudi Arabia).

The lagna comes out to be taurus with Mars in it. Lagna Lord Venus with mercury and sun in the tenth house.Saturn in 7 th house, Moon in Second, Jupiter in 5th and Rahu and Ketu in 6th and 12th respectively. Mars in the first makes him aggressive and aspect of saturn creates a havoc there. Mars-saturn mutual aspects cause calamities everywhere. Sun in 10th house represents a wealthy n powerful father being the lord of 4th house as well. But the main problem here is that jupiter aspects that lagna which should make him a better person and not the way he was .Although it is the 8th lord, still the nature of jupiter is to sooth the house it aspects.Along with that, taurus rising are bull headed but not killers i feel. For killers, ascendant usually has aries,leo,scorpio, sagitarrius the fiery signs.

So if we reverse the kundli, by taking scorpio as the ascendant i feel we get his perfect kundli. Scorpio rising with saturn in it having aspect of mars. Osama was a very tall and thin man. So Saturn in lagna fulfils that. The aspect of mars (lagna lord) on lagna is there which makes him very aggressive and ruthless. People having saturn in lagna are natural leaders. If we see kundlis of various politicians, we can find most of them are having saturn in lagna.

Now the Ninth lord Moon goes into the 8th house. The 9th lord going into 8th or vice versa usually separates the native from his father or gets adopted( Reference: Astrology,Destiny and Wheel of Time) . After Osama was born, his parents had divorced each other and his mother married another man and he lived with him.

Rahu in the 12th house makes him live most of his life abroad(Over here i mean outside Saudi Arabia) and indulge in all sorts of foreign affairs all his life.

On his 10th house if we view, there is aspect of many planets however no planet is present. Saturn, Mars, Sun, Venus & Mercury all are aspecting the 10th house. So the person is a master planner, has worked with the american govt, is a mass murderer, a leader(of Taliban ofcourse) and also wrote poetry in his earlier years.

His 2nd lord is jupiter placed in the 11th house of gains. Lots of money and gains from family. He has never had any shortage of money.

Ketu in the 6th makes him fearless and gives him a strong will power to achieve things.It also gives him worldy riches and power(Ref: Prash Trivedi's The rahu-ketu experiance).

I would request everyone to post ther views.

Regards
Vivek

[sita]

Hello Vivekb,

Let his soul first rest in peace...then we will analyse his horror-scope.

keep smiling!

[anilesh47]

[quote]Now the Ninth lord Moon goes into the 8th house. The 9th lord going into 8th or vice versa usually separates the native from his father or gets adopted( Reference: Astrology,Destiny and Wheel of Time) . After Osama was born, his parents had divorced each other and his mother married another man and he lived with him.

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As you said in above statement, I have also 9th lord in 8th house but i am not an adopted person. Hope other factors works here..

Regards
Nilesh

[vivekb]

Hi Nilesh,

Not all the theories mentioned in the texts or by knowledgeble people work everywhere... Never mind, we are here to discuss about Osama. We can discuss about your chart in a different post my friend.

Regards
Vivek

[astroboy]

Good day shrikanth Ji ,

Let us play devils advocate . You take Aries's Side , I shall Stick to Taurus . pure acadamic interests .

I think he was born some where after 10 40 Am / 10th March 1957 Riyadh


1) He was a very shy and reserved person. ( Shani aspects lagna at 20 Deg . Lagna is at 18 31 )
2) Extremely religious and devout muslim. ( Shani as 9th lord can do that )
3) He was never a natural or born leader - he always considered himself as a Warrior or Soldier working for a cause. ( Kuja in lagna )
4) Though a heir to a fortune, He was a man of very simple needs, able & comfortable to live in harsh conditions. ( Shani again )
5) His compatriots used words like loving, gentle and very caring person - he did have firm views, fundamentalist attitude but overall a unshaking intention to fight for his cause.(whatever that cause was) ( Moon in the 2nd . Sweet speech . / Guru's aspect on lagna )
6) He was quite athletic and a tall and lean person ( Shani. Look at his hands . long and lean . legs thin and long . Bony and gaunt . Thick coarse hair . sunken eyes , large teeth , prominent veins , a long beard , profuse course body hair, limbs are rigid. acts like a out caste . ) ( Since kuja is in the lagna , loves to hold a gun , He has one at all times . Kuja loves guns . I love them too . )

[astroboy]

Srinivas rao ji , has a dictum , he says " Left by himself , Kuja is a aimless warrior , this is the kind of guy who will join any fight , as long as there is some action . But when Guru casts his influence on him , Kuja gets direction . This is why , Guru + Kuja , always stick to principles and will not let anything change there minds . Once they find a cause , they go neck deep into it . Add Shani's gaze, for get the neck, he will bury his head into that cause . "

Fits the man does it not ?

[astroboy]

For all the gun trotting and jingoistic acts of Laden , there is no known record of him having killed anyone with his own hands . Yes he did move around with soldiers during the Afgan war against the soviets , but he never actively participated in any ambushes or skirmishes . Though he loves to hold a gun , and shot a few bullets for some video grabs , there was nothing fancy he did with it . There are 2 reasons for this . The aspect of Guru , and Shani .

for all the stuff you hear of Shani, with all due respects to that great lord ......... he is a scaredy cat . He is scared of any direct confrontation . He always hits you from behind . He will scheme and scheme for years and years , all the time boiling inside , but he rarely vents out his frustration , he just smoulders inside , waiting for a chance to strike . When he does , he delivers his venom in small slow doses and likes to watch you suffer .

Contrast this with Kuja . Kuja will pick a gun , load a bullet and shoot you in the eye . Finished . No bull shiit . No drama .

Laden has a weak Kuja . Look at his Avasta ., he is in Mrita (Dead), Swapna ( Dreaming ) and Saanta (Peaceful )

Shani is in a Kumara (adolescent ) Sushupta (asleep ) Duhkita (Distressed ) and Khala ( Mischievous ) avasta . It was Shani's run all the way . Look how he stuck to tradition . Strong Shani trait .

[astroboy]

by vivekb » Mon May 02, 2011 9:25 pm
The lagna comes out to be taurus with Mars in it. Lagna Lord Venus with mercury and sun in the tenth house.Saturn in 7 th house, Moon in Second, Jupiter in 5th and Rahu and Ketu in 6th and 12th respectively. Mars in the first makes him aggressive and aspect of saturn creates a havoc there. Mars-saturn mutual aspects cause calamities everywhere. Sun in 10th house represents a wealthy n powerful father being the lord of 4th house as well. But the main problem here is that jupiter aspects that lagna which should make him a better person and not the way he was .Although it is the 8th lord, still the nature of jupiter is to sooth the house it aspects.Along with that, taurus rising are bull headed but not killers i feel. For killers, ascendant usually has aries,leo,scorpio, sagitarrius the fiery signs.

So if we reverse the kundli, by taking scorpio as the ascendant i feel we get his perfect kundli. Scorpio rising with saturn in it having aspect of mars. Osama was a very tall and thin man. So Saturn in lagna fulfils that. The aspect of mars (lagna lord) on lagna is there which makes him very aggressive and ruthless. People having saturn in lagna are natural leaders. If we see kundlis of various politicians, we can find most of them are having saturn in lagna.

Good day vivek B,

Dont be fooled by guru , he is the 8th and the 11th lord , dead against this lagna lord , and is in the Nakashtra of Ravi in Uttara Phalguni . "One of the traits of this nakshatra is that they believe in fighting for a rightful cause . " . Note Guru is Retrograde .

Look at his statement

"God knows it did not cross our minds to attack the towers, but after the situation became unbearable—and we witnessed the injustice and tyranny of the American-Israeli alliance against our people in Palestine and Lebanon—I thought about it. And the events that affected me directly were that of 1982 and the events that followed—when America allowed the Israelis to invade Lebanon, helped by the U.S. Sixth Fleet. As I watched the destroyed towers in Lebanon, it occurred to me........ punish the unjust the same way: to destroy towers in America so it could taste some of what we are tasting and to stop killing our children and women."

Guru is a very just man. It is his aspect that convinces him to right the wrong .

What is right and what is wrong depends on which side of the fense you are on my friend . Its all a matter of Interpretation . Even a butcher convinces himself that feeding his family comes higher than stopping the butchery of animals . When my $%##@ are on fire , I will rob a glass of water from a thirsty dying man and extinguish the flames . No doubt about that . Why do you think people blow them selves up every day ? Because they are convinced what they are doing is right .

[astroboy]

And as far as bull headed behaviour is concerned , Taurus lagna fits the bill . Once he gets a idea in his head , nothing can change it . For example my father's Moon is in Taurus . If he arrives at the conclusion that the moon is orange , then even God cannot change his opinion and convince him other wise . Bull headed to the core . Once they set their sight on doing something , nothing will come between them and their goal .

[anuradha]

Deepakji, His data as per Sh K.N Raoji is 30-07-1957. 11-59. Jaddha, Saudi Arabia.regards

[astroboy]

Good morning Anu ji ,

I am shocked . Both Astrodata bank and wikipedia list out his Birth date as 10 March 1957 . Riyadh .

[anuradha]

Deepakji, One of the most difficult task in astrology is to get the correct chart. Only way out is to match the life events with the chart and dasha sequence. Best way to learn, personally done it for many charts with the grace of God. Regards

[kunalbhardwaj27]

by astroboy » Sat May 07, 2011 10:34 pm
For example my father's Moon is in Taurus . If he arrives at the conclusion that the moon is orange , then even God cannot change his opinion and convince him other wise . Bull headed to the core . Once they set their sight on doing something , nothing will come between them and their goal .

[JupiterLight]

Dear All,

Please do read my previous post as well.
Breaking this up since forum does nt allow the length of this post.


Regards
Shrikanth

If your annoyed with this weird new change, do voice your opinion on this link http://www.lightonvedicastrology.com/ph ... 13&t=10216

[anuradha]

by astroboy » 080511

Good morning Anu ji ,

I am shocked . Both Astrodata bank and wikipedia list out his Birth date as 10 March 1957 . Riyadh .
Please seek as many opinions as you can from other learned member's on the forum as I might be completely wrong with the Analysis.
astroboy

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Deepakji, Please see the chart as per my details and try to see the events of his life. I am sure you will feel that chart is correct. regards