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Hello Swamikool,

[i]moon in cancer makes people over sensitive and over caring. And Rahu amplifies the effects. Unless moon is in Pushya Nk or Moon is with Ketu or both.[/i]

What is the effect of moon in Pushya nakshatra?

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Dear rose,

one clarification please..is it also because when moon is disposited by another planet then the qualities of that planet gets added on so that the quality of the moon changes and becomes less money so to say, which is not available in cancer?

what also happens if the final dispositor of all the planets in a horoscope was swashektra moon?

You are quite correct, Cancer is Moon's OH, so there is no dispositor to affect moon's behaviour if moon is alone. If the moon is with any other graha or aspected the behaviour will be affected accordingly.

Your second point would be extremely rare. For such a thing to happen all the planets would have to be in a single rasi - cancer (even then either rahu or ketu would be out of the ambit because they are ever 180 degrees apart). Such combinations occur every 500 years or so. If it happens the person might be totally confused. It will certainly create the conditions for one of the Sankhya yogas - Gola yoga...the person becomes extremely selfish, stubborn and stupid.

It is however possible that all the planets are posited in the Nks of moon Rohini, Hasta and Shravana (again either rahu or ketu would be out of the ambit) in such a case artistic abilities would be very pronounced, so would be a firm and hard nosed ability for money and finance. The person would be sophisticated, very caring (for near and dear), selfish and capricious.

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swamykool wrote:Dear Chaks ji,
I have cancer lagna and moon and sun with ketu in virgo and can vouch for the indifference part.
I know, I have moon with Ketu in Cancer. By all classical definitions it is a terrible affliction. But if your chart promises you a hard life, moon with ketu is the armour, your kavach kundal god has provided you with. Whatever life throws at you - you simply wouldn't care. Very difficult to break such a man.

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Yes Sir. Ketu also takes off moon's sheen a bit. The emotions are well controlled and although the native maybe very emotional on the inside he is hard and dry on the outside. The combination also tends to make the native very philosophical.
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Hina ji,

What is the effect of moon in Pushya nakshatra?

Pushya is called the Mahanakshatra, it means the nourisher. It is ruled by Shani, its deity is Brihaspati, the Guru of the Gods (Jupiter by another name), it is fiery by nature and Kshatriya by caste. The symbols for Pushya are the Lotus, the Wheel and the arrow.

Thus the nature imparted by Pushya is a judicious blend of shani and Guru. A stickler for routine, tradition and duty (Shani, thus the wheel -the wheel of Law, Dharmachakra), great admirer of learning and scholarly (Guru, the Lotus - efflorescence of the mind/intellect) but a fiery and very hard warrior nature(the arrow - skewering/piercing). Moons sensitivity and vicissitudes and Guru's expansiveness are strictly controlled by Shani's stern discipline. A pushya person is as sensitive as anyother cancerian but never allows himself/herself to be overpowered by feelings. Such a person, if necessary, will whip himself and stick to what he thinks is right, even if the heart breaks. A pushya parent is extremely loving and will not hesitate to undergo any sacrifice or hardship for his/her children but is certainly not the most indulging, if at all. Eg. a pushya father/mother would happily break a couple of rulers on sonny boy's back if he is acting funny.

Pushya Nk will happily endure a tonne of hardship but not one ounce of humiliation. They are usually undemonstrative, have hard features and are extremely patient. But once their backs are to the wall they will explode and stike out viciously. The fiery nk in a watery rashi is kept well under control but when it exlopdes it can create havoc and can be far more damaging than others. And like their disciplined nature they are implacable in their enmity and will not stop till serious damage has been done. Pushya Nk is not famous for its forgiveness. It is because of this violent warrior nature that Pushya Nk is avoided for marriage muhurtas.

Great scholars and judges are born in this Nk but not exactly philosophers and saints. Also many rulers and industrialists have pushya as either lagna or moon. This Nk also hosts many high Govt. officials especially Military, Police and Intelligence. I think I have given you a broad idea of Pushya is like. The Moon is very strong in Pushya and can successfully resist other afflictions. But living with such a man/woman can be a bit trying.

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Chaks ji,
Yes Sir. Ketu also takes off moon's sheen a bit. The emotions are well controlled and although the native maybe very emotional on the inside he is hard and dry on the outside. The combination also tends to make the native very philosophical.
Absolutely on the dot. But about the philosophical bit I don't know. I have the combination but I am not philosophical at all. Then again Pushya Nk, they are not philosophers to begin with. :mrgreen:

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Swamykool Ji,

Anybody who is into astrology has to be a little bit of a philosopher, especially when his predictions/readings go wrong :D

In your case with ketu and moon together, maybe you are as philosophical as pushya allows you to be.
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chaks ji,

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Swamikoolji,

How qualitatively different will be Mo+Ke in

1. Rohini/Hasta/Sravana Nk
2. Other Nk lorded by Mo's natural friends
3. Ashivini/Makha/Moola (ignoring the gandantha effect)
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Some Rumi for introspection ....... :)

Take away what I want.
Take away what I do.
Take away what I need.
Take away everything
that takes me from you.

Take someone who doesn't keep score,
who's not looking to be richer, or afraid of losing,
who has not the slightest interest even
is his own personality: he's free.
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Take away what I want.
Take away what I do.
Take away what I need.
Take away everything
that takes me from you.



I want to break free simplfied . excellent post Abhijit Muhurtha . :)
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Thanks AB :)

It must have taken a lot of courage for Rumi to say those words... and "He" must have given that courage to Rumi.

So guess we could start by droping the "i" from "I want to break free" and pray that...... Let HIM make this thing free :)

Have a Great day ! :D
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Which thing shd He make it free Abhijeet? U nd me can't break free :)
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Good day all ,

This is the horoscope of a individual who is all set to take sanyas in a few days . God bless him , and Let us all wish him the Best of luck .

May 2nd 1975
02 08 AM
MadanaPalli
Andra Pradesh
India


Note the strong Veda Vedanga Yoga in the Horoscope . If Jupiter is exalted or in own sign in the 2nd house (Bhavartha Ratnakara 2/2/7). Then the person will aquire the highest spiritual knowledge (Veda) and understanding of it's unfoldment into relative existence (Vedanga).
Guru is aspected by the 12th lord Shani, and is in the 5th lord's Nakshatra . Revati is a very very good Nakshatra for Spirituality, ( All factors being equal )

A very important yoga for a Sanyasi .... Nishkapata Yoga
The 4th house is occupied by a benefic planet, or planet in own sign, friendly or sign of exaltation, or 4th house being a benefic sign (Sarvartha Chintamani 4/143)
The person is pure hearted and stays away from secrecy and hypocrisy.

Note the association of the 5th lord and the 9th lord in the 4th house , along with Ketu . However Ketu and Rahu's debilitation is a huge dampner .

Normally Moon in Makara gives the individual , a interest in traditions and traditional learning . ( Most foreigners who roam the length and breath of India , have their lagna or moon's in either Makara or kumbha .)

Also Note a exalted Ravi's aspect on the 9th .
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Deepak ji,
This is the horoscope of a individual who is all set to take sanyas in a few days
If you have information can you please share as to what were the "systematic breakdowns" in the life of the native that has brought him to this?
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Just check this out ,

Bandhana Yoga
Malefics are placed in Gemini Lagna, Libra Lagna or Aquarius Lagna (Sambu Hora Prakasha 14/57).
This configuration makes the person vulnerable to feel confined or imprisonment in a place .
Through hard work and spiritual practices, a person gets honor and dignity. The lazy one who puts in no efforts is like a fool who allows salt to be spilled on the wounds of his misfortunes. The idler depending only on fate, achieves nothing. - K.N.Rao ji
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Lovacrs ji ,

If you see the horoscope, You will notice that there are some good yogas to fullfill a materialistic life . For example the 11th lord in the 2nd, in his own house , is a yoga for wealth . 10th lord is in the lagna . The 7th lord is exalted , the 4th lord is in the 4th aspecting the 10th . The 4th and 5th lords combine in the 4th . Under normal circumstances, I would think that this is a great horoscope for the material , ie , money , marriage , and career .

Now when we factor in the yogas for spirituality , we realise that the yogas for spirituality are really strong . It is here that we have to bring in the Samskaras of his parents and his family . Had he been born in a house full of Atheists , or born in sweden, there would have been a very good chance that Materialism would have taken precedence while the spirtual cord would have keep tugging him, making him a emotional mess .

However, his parents , though hesitant at first , agreed to let him be a Bhramachari . This can be seen in the placement of the Sun and Moon . Sun is exalted , while the Moon is involved in a Viparita Harsha Raja Yoga . He has been with Chinmaya Mission for 17 years now and will become a Swamyji on MahaShivaratri Day .

I have said it before , and I will say it again .

by astroboy » Tue Jan 11, 2011 4:44 pm
There are two types of people who indulge in Spirituality , Renunciation and Asceticism .One , who was born to do it , and the other who is forced by the present lives circumstances to indulge or flirt with / in it .
Seems to me , In this case , our man was born to do it .

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Dear Astroboy

An excellent chart for pursuing spiritualism. The Lagna and 12th lord in 5th, The 5th and the 8th lord conjunct the 4th and 9th lord along with ketu. There is a connection between 1,5,9 and 4,8,12 which can make spirituality come to him naturally.

Moreover all these lords are friends.

I join you in wishing him all the best.

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astroboy wrote: There are two types of people who indulge in Spirituality , Renunciation and Asceticism .One , who was born to do it , and the other who is forced by the present lives circumstances to indulge or flirt with / in it .
Deepakji,

For those who flirt with spirituality, is it predestined too, or is it free will? I mean, is this flirting with spirituality also present in the chart in the form of some weak spiritual connections, or is it something a person takes to out of free will, only the misery part showing in the birth chart? One more question: those who take to spirituality being driven to it by a difficult life, do they ever get to become truly spiritual, ever?
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Well said, Abhijeet. The very thought of 'I want to break free', shows the ego in us. As Sri Ramakrishna said always that this 'I' is the greatest obstacle to the spiritual path, and how many times you want to get rid of it, it comes back, always. He said thus that if this rascal 'I' has to remain, then let it be the servant of the Lord, and let us think, O Lord, you are the master, and I am your servant. That will purify the ego in us, which 'I' stands for.
Abhijit Muhurta !!! wrote:So guess we could start by droping the "i" from "I want to break free" and pray that...... Let HIM make this thing free :)
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R V RAMANAN wrote:Dear Astroboy

An excellent chart for pursuing spiritualism. The Lagna and 12th lord in 5th, The 5th and the 8th lord conjunct the 4th and 9th lord along with ketu. There is a connection between 1,5,9 and 4,8,12 which can make spirituality come to him naturally.

Moreover all these lords are friends.

I join you in wishing him all the best.

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dear sir
after a long time.WELCOME BACK..i hope u will be here .along with u and astroboy,i also joining to wish him for fulfulling the mission target in which he is joining.
One more thing for your information is,MADANA PALLI IS THE PLACE WHICH GIVEN A PERSON WHO IS THE INCORNATION OF BUDDHA TO THE WORLD AND THE PERSON IS JIDDU KRISHNAMURTHY..so our native also belongs the same place..great coinsidence...
best regards....
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Hindu society requires good spiritual sanyasi Gurus.Unfortunately/fortunately they are all surrounded by unmarried ladies, widows, abondoned ladies mostly beautiful and reasonably young, which is sure to corrupt the mind of these Gurus providing Holy Smoke for others. :D
So the Gurus should avoid salt,chillies,spirits etc.Better they have their wife as a watchdog by their side .
This is my personal feeling after observing saints from all religions.
My suggestions are for +ve guidance.Divine blessings are ultimate.
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Thanks Deepakji.

I am happy he did not have to undergo much travails before reaching where he is. May he reach the pinnacle of spirituality.
Also if you have the birth data of Sri Vidhyabhushan teertha swamiji, it will be a nice study to see how and why a renunciate renounces renunciation
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USR ji,
USR wrote:Hindu society requires good spiritual sanyasi Gurus.Unfortunately/fortunately they are all surrounded by unmarried ladies, widows, abondoned ladies mostly beautiful and reasonably young, which is sure to corrupt the mind of these Gurus providing Holy Smoke for others. :D
So the Gurus should avoid salt,chillies,spirits etc.Better they have their wife as a watchdog by their side .
This is my personal feeling after observing saints from all religions.
Any genuine cause is hijacked by opportunists much the same way rodents invade FCI gowdowns :lol: Some rodents can be good looking :D
A true renunciate will probably never claim to be one since any "claim" is an attachment. Hence you will never find him unless you have a really spiritual nose and sniff your way to him and manage not to become a rodent :D
I will of-course not believe anyone who claims to be spiritual
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Lovacrs ji,

I dont know how true VidhyaBushan swamyji's story is . If its true, then its nothing new :) . If Vishvamitra can succumb to a womans charms , what chance do we have ?? :roll: :roll:

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