vegan-version of milk remedies?

[lunari.astra]

I was doing some remedies for the Moon & Venus. One involves milk and the other yogurt, but I have recently become vegan (I was vegetarian before, but now I don't take dairy either), so I don't want to use anything that comes from any animal, which means my remedies will have to change.

My question is: would it still have the same effect to do these same remedies with dairy-free alternatives, such as almond milk (instead of cow's milk) or coconut-based yogurt (instead of milk-based), or is it the dairy itself that makes the remedy?

[astroboy]

Good day lunari.astra ,

first of all , I want to congratulate you turning vegan . May the good lord bless you and grant you all that you desire . There is no bigger noble deed than turning vegan . Its a up hill task to say the least .

Comming to remedies, I think it is the intention, love and devotion towards god that is more important than the ingredient used in worship . The story goes that the great Aghori Telang swamy made it his habit to worship Godess Annapurnashwari, using his own Urine and feces . Off course , Telang swami was something else all together .

I assure you, God is only going to see your intention towards him . I remember a story , " a man once climbed a tree trying to escape a Tiger . It was dark and the man had no idea that he had climbed a billva patra tree , and that there was a Shiva linga at the base of the tree . Not knowing if the tiger would return , the man decided to spend the night on the tree . To escape boredom , he started plucking the leaves from the branch he was resting on and started throwing them downwards, At the same time, chanting "Om Namaha Shivaya " He had not even completed throwing a hundred leaves when Lord Shiva appeared in from of the stunned man . The man asked the lord " People pray to you for a whole life time , and you still do not appear in front of them . I hardly threw a hundred leaves and you come before me . why ??" . The lord replied " You were my devotee in the past life , you kept chanting my name , and you always wanted to see me . When you died in your previous lifetime , You were a hundred short of completing your sadana . This you accomplished today . " The man replied , " But lord I did not know that this was a Bilva Patra tree , nor did I know that there was a shiva linga down below , But you still were pleased . " The lord replied , Its not the ingredients that matter to me ......... Its the devotion . "

So in short Lunari astra . Coconut , soya , almond ............ does not make a difference . What matters is the faith and the devotion .

Best regard's

P.S. - The fact that you turned Vegan is 90 pct of the job done . The lord is immensely pleased for sure .

[astroboy]

Lunari Astra ,

Take the Shiva Manasa Pooja { The mental worship of Shiva } written by Adi Shankaracharya . Note the key word in the first stanza .

Rathnai Kalpitham asanam, Himajalai snanam cha divyambaram,
Naana rathna vibhooshitham mruga madha modhanvitham Chandanam,
Jathi champaka bilwa pathra rachitham, pushpam cha doopam thathaa,
Deepam deva dayanithe pasupathe, hrud kalpyatham gruhyatham.

I offer you an imaginary throne made of precious jewels,
I offer you bath in the water of melted snow from the Himalayas,
I offer you holy silken cloth to wear,
I adorn you with very many precious jewels,
I offer you musk and sandal,
I offer you Bilwa and Champaka flowers,
And I offer you the holy lamp,
But all these I offer in the portal of my mind,
Please God who is merciful and who is the Lord of all beings,
Accept my offerings and bless me.

[kandhan]

hi,
there is no violence involved in harvesting of milk in comparison to meat. eggs have the potential for life in them(am not considering the GM ones)hence are highly rajasic. so, imo milk cannot be clubbed with other animal products. Milk and honey(a regurgitate of honey bees ) have been used for ages in temples for abhishekam, in yagyas, homams and many other sacred rituals.

[Dev]

Hi:

Yes, definitely eating meat is a sin since it involves killing of innocent animals which are by far far far better than most human beings if not all but milk cannot be in that category but avoiding milk is neverthless good as Astroboy says because I feel some cow owners do not allow the calves to drink the milk of the cow and so are incurring sins and when we drink that milk, we incur some sins indirectly. Anyway cow ghee is used for homams and yagas and so are milk for abhishekam(to Shiva, Amman especially), butter(for Hanuman) so we need to use them for these purposes.

Anyway as parihara, he could still do for venus by offerring vegetables and fruits and jaggery, rice etc to cows on fridays and chanting Mahalakshmi Astakam and Lakshmi Astottaram. On mondays, he could chant Tripurasundari astakam and offer white clothes to Chandra in Navagraha temple, I feel.

Dev

[astroboy]

by Dev » Thu Apr 28, 2011 3:51 pm
I feel some cow owners do not allow the calves to drink the milk of the cow and so are incurring sins and when we drink that milk, we incur some sins indirectly.

Absolutely right Dev ji . Cows are reared in miserable conditions . Its sheer misery for the animal . If the calf is male , its starved for days until the RBC in the calves blood decreases , Its then butchered and the meat is served as Veal . All this time the cow watches its calf starve to death, while the machine milks the mother dry . Man is the most cruel being on earth . No doubt God turns a blind eye when we suffer .

Best regard's

[Dev]

Thanks Astroboy for the fine explanation. Very well said. You are doing a great job of taking care of dogs and feeding cows and that is the best thing you can think of. You should be proud of yourself doing such a noble deed when most people try to flatter others from whom they think they will have benefits like power, money etc and then throw then away when their work is done ie like using karela pattha in sambar. These innocent souls(cows and dogs and other animals) are innocent and very much respect their masters and dont deceive or cheat them. Cows are a class apart since we drink their milk and use them for abhishekam. However, all other animals too are innocent and are better than human beings.
Of course there are some good human beings who are really satvik and good by heart and harmless but then we can easily count them since they are so few in number.
Hats off to your noble deed. You are doing greater service feeding cows and taking care of dogs than your service in the form of astrological solutions because here some will try to find fault with you still though u do it based on your calculations.
Dev

[tripura]

yeah and in ekadashi also I try to avoid yoghurt also cos Im sure corn starch has been added to it to thicken it.I live in the carribean so we dont make yoghurt at home and in the evaporated milk we find some additives and when i make charnamrit and I sometimes wonder if God even accepts it with all the E22 and what not. here even egg white is added to the milk in the can and boxes.
I have been vegetarian for the past 28 years and wonder sometimes If it is really counted with all the nasty things added to the food, even frozen spinach will have eggwhite on the labels, chips etc. so we hav to avoid so many foods. what is left to eat?
we should start to grow our own food and bring up our own cows like they do in the hare Krishna farms,and go back to a more rustic wholesome way of life to get back in harmony with the universe.
tripura.

[lunari.astra]

first of all , I want to congratulate you turning vegan . May the good lord bless you and grant you all that you desire . There is no bigger noble deed than turning vegan . Its a up hill task to say the least .

Thanks, Astroboy. It's good to see someone who understands my going vegan I will keep my intention and start doing my remedies again, with the non-dairy versions.

hi,
there is no violence involved in harvesting of milk in comparison to meat. eggs have the potential for life in them(am not considering the GM ones)hence are highly rajasic. so, imo milk cannot be clubbed with other animal products. Milk and honey(a regurgitate of honey bees ) have been used for ages in temples for abhishekam, in yagyas, homams and many other sacred rituals.

I agree that milk is not as bad as meat, because milk has the potential to be harvested humanely whereas meat doesn't. But nowadays, most of the time it's not. Astroboy talked about some of the suffering the cows go through for milk, and now that cows are given so many hormones, dairy products can be bad for human health as well (hormones in milk and meat are suspected of being the cause of so many girls going through puberty at a much younger age now than in the past).

I have been vegetarian for the past 28 years and wonder sometimes If it is really counted with all the nasty things added to the food, even frozen spinach will have eggwhite on the labels, chips etc. so we hav to avoid so many foods. what is left to eat?
we should start to grow our own food and bring up our own cows like they do in the hare Krishna farms,and go back to a more rustic wholesome way of life to get back in harmony with the universe.
tripura.

It can be so hard to find food without random things added in- that's why I check the labels of everything, and since I went vegan have started cooking & baking a lot, because so many of those additives come from animals or are just scary (even added vitamins can come from an animal source, and I heard that white sugar is filtered through animal bone. There's really no way to tell unless you get all fresh food or organic products).

[Dev]

Animal charcoal is used for refining of sugars and orthodox brahmins still dont consume sugars and instead use jaggery.

Dev