Request for horoscope compatibility analysis

[astroboy]

Ranbir , good question ,

look , in the case of Rajath and his wife , there is a 6/8 relationship of lagna's . The synastry fails there . But this is one of the parameters you take into consideration . The Moons are in a 1/1 relationship , and so is Kuja . Ultimately its all in the mind . The synastry of the Moon is of paramount importance . make no mistake about it . Synastry is just one tool to gauge compatability . The girls horoscope looks like a nightmare till you realise that Shukra is the strongest planet in Vimshopaka . shukra is strong by being in Vargothama and astatkavarga bala too . The girls horoscope might look useless untill you see that the 7th lord of the Navamsha is exalted . This is a great reddeming factor . Remember , a tree (d1) might look old , but bear good fruit ( D9 ) .

Look at the boys horoscope closely . Then the girls . Both have equal afflictions . Its a matter of opinion , who has more or less . Does that mean that they are not destined to marry ??? No . That means , a compatable person has to be put along with the other to make ends meet . Let us take a example . say the lagna is aries , 7th lord is debilitated , shani is in the 7th ( exalted ) and finally kuja is debilitated . do you throw the horoscope out ?? . I say , get a man who has similar afflictions and paste the two together . Things will be fine in time . This is off course , if the girl is desperate to marry . the example I provided was of a friend of mine . 3 years now . They fight like cats and dogs ......... but they sleep together . they tease me by saying that i am responsible for their fights ,because i made the match. I asked them to quit it then , That they dont do . . My job is done .

[anuradha]

Deepakji, Please see Sun -Moon at 1-7 axis also, gives the good compatibility, due to the obvious reason. regards

[ranbir]

astroboy
thanks for your reply. waiting for a similar sound reply from anuji.hope i get it

[joshek]

Deeapakji, Purva Janam Sambandh is present, no matching is required. Excellent for each other. Regards

Anu ji,

Please tell us , in one line please , how you came to know that there was a runanubandhan or Purva Janam Sambandh?

[ranbir]

anuji
see lots of people wanna know that pls tell us we wont tell this secret to anyone or if u dont trust us u can copyright it

[joshek]

my question was very short, still no ans , should I make it more short? okay...

Anu ji, how come purva janam sambandh?

[astroboy]

I dont normally paste date and then remove it . But this time I will . people who want the data can copy and save it on J hora . My data is off course available every where

November 07 1978
19 22
Mumbai
Her horoscope from the 7th house looks good . 7th lord is in the 7th . From the moon a exalted Guru . wonderful to say the least . The girl went through a rough relationship , and then broke off with her boyfriend due to differences . Then she went ahead , and got married to some dude ( arranged marriage ) . The astrologer from the boys side gave the go ahead looking at the clear 7th and 8th house . ( Looks super actually ). Girls side was not interested in matching charts . The marriage broke in 2.5 years . The girl is back to square one .

I Posted it here , so that people interested can study thsi horo . Please do not misuse the data .

[anuradha]

Deepakji, I do not know what went wrong, but you both have a very strong attraction and understanding with each other. Had you consulted me , I would have said go ahead. regards

[swamykool]

Astroboy,

I dont normally paste date and then remove it . But this time I will . people who want the data can copy and save it on J hora . My data is off course available every where

November 07 1978
19 22
Mumbai

Whose chart is this?

[pari]

Pari ji , I will leave the answering to Anu ji , But before I leave ......... Just read between the lines " Excellent for each other" . ( Made for each other , in other words ) You will understand . . Seems to me you have not understood the essence of my post .

Hi Astroboy,

I was able to understand your post. The smile was just to say nothing offensive(you are senior here). Ohk let me explain you, why many people are still asking for the same question again and again. During childhood, we all have studied various theorems in mathematics and then there used to be a hypothetical question to prove something is equal or similar to the other thing. There used to be many ways to prove them. Using various other theorems and points we used to derive this is equal to this and hence proved. This is what your post is saying that since a diamond is used to cut a diamond and cat can be kept along with a cat, as well as other factors and gunas, so they are an excellent match.

Again a question arise here, is this specifically only becoz such a high level of gunas and other associations are there or she found out something else which is really different that's why this term was used. People here i guess want to know what exactly has to be looked to say a poorva janma sambandh, they are looking for some principle itself which can be applicable on others also.

Hope I am able to make you understand what was asked.

[rajath25]

To all respected astrologers,

First and foremost, a big sincere heart felt thanks to all of you who took some time out from your busy lives and analysed our charts.

Honestly, I never expected so many responses -hope I dont jinx it- as it had been a few days since I posted it and did not get any responses.Neither could I respond in time due to time differences.I sincerely welcome and appreciate all the responses and look forward to even more.

Now getting to the astrological part, as someone with interest in astrology and knowing just the 'abc' of it, i rejected this proposal as soon as I had a look at my wife's horoscope.3 debilitated planets-Sun , Jupiter and Venus- would render all good yogas in her chart ineffective and the effects of debilitated planets would also be there. Each time I talked to my parents, they kept bringing up the gana koota score-34/36 acccording to some softwares.Eventually I gave more weightage to the score and compared it with others' scores and got married.

Here is where I think I made the first mistake. I should have considered analysis from all lagnas-sun, moon mars instead of just the gana koota score.

I have pisces lagna and she has libra lagna. I consider that I have more brahmin like qualities-non-smoker, teetotaller and vegetarian becos of my upbringing and she is just the opposite minus smoking. She has to have meat every day. Gosh, I cant believe such gluttony for eating meat amongst her relatives. Here I must say that before marriage I knew she was a non-vegetarian but I thought it was controlled and only on limited days. But cheeze, u have to see to believe the consumption of meat. Some time back, there was auspicious function at our home and her parents were asking if the food served was going to be vegetarian or non-vegetarian. I mean seriously, I was sooo furious that day. Dont they have that much common sense that non-vegetarian foods are not for auspicious functions. And in our house we never cook meat. This is the first of many fundamental points of differences. Astrologically speaking, the differences start from the lagnas itself. as mentione above, I have pisces and she has libra as lagna. Pisces is more satvic and libra is more tamasic.And as ranbir has rightly pointed out the two lagnas are mutually 6/8 from each other. I suppose this is where the differences begin to crop up.

Further, I am a strong stickler to traditions and custom-may be Saturn which is digbali in my chart is responsible for this. And my wife's side will give a rats rose to customs and traditions. They have only 1 tradition and that is to drink dance and gamble all day and night.I mean even the most simplest of practices that is normally done in south indian marriages, they did not do it. I took all of them in my stride and still went ahead with the actual wedding without creating scenes.

For what mistake of mine should I keep compromising my beliefs.

I just feel that spiritually, we are not aligned or not on the same plane- one is behind the other on the spiritual ladder.



Astroboy avare, somewhere in the thread, you have mentioned that my wife's shukra is very strong- strong by being in Vargothama and astatkavarga bala too and strongest planet in Vimshopaka . I am sure u would have noticed that Venus is in deep debilitation. Also her Jupiter is debilitated and in the 4th house. 4th house is 10th to 7th- career of the spouse. So even my career will not see any progress or probably will be doomed if I continue with her. I know even my horoscope does not support a great career but I was hoping that my career would progress after marriage. Forget progress I just hope I dont go back wards because of the horrible placement of Jupiter in her horoscope. And Sun which is badakaraka for libra is debilitated in lagna itself.what great placement and I am certainly the most lucky one. Did v leave out any other planets which are not debilitated in her chart? I am certainly a very blessed soul for marrying such a person. Right now I have a poison chalise in my hand...if I continue to live with her, she will pour the poison in it and one day I will gulp it because i cannot take it any more and would be left with no option.

Also astroboy avare, when I said v r continents apart, v literally are. I am in the USA for almost 8 years now and she has gone back to India.

Since in my horoscope, since 2nd and 9th lord Mars was placed in 7th house, every one indicated that my luck would change after marriage and I was really optimistic about that....well its suffice to say, I have become pessimistic.Sometime makes me question even astrology itself which I know is above questioning.

I know, her D1 chart is horrible while her D9 chart is good. what good if the tree itself is diseased. the fruit will invariably be diseased as well. And I and only I have to eat the fruit. That is true if I continue with this marriage. Isn't it just practical to just go our ways than live together and die every day because there is no compatibility.

I am not with out blame either. even my d1 chart is afflicted but aleast i dont have 3 debilitated planets. In fact most of the astrologers had said that I was destined marry twice-becos of the SA-Ma conjunction in the 7th house in virgo.

And last but not the least, if there is runaanubandha between the two of us, I hope it is the last of it.

I know this response is really long..might have bored some of you. but just had to pour out all my pent up emotions.

Cant wait to hear your responses.

Warm Regards
Rajath

[astroboy]

Rajath ji , I am 38 , you are 9 years younger to me . I will advice you like a elder brother . Take it in the right spirit please . I only mean well for you , Nothing else . I dont know who you are , or where you are . But you will not believe me , You actually managed to give me a sleep less night . You can understand now what your post has done to me .

Let me answer your questions point by point .

Now getting to the astrological part, as someone with interest in astrology and knowing just the 'abc' of it, i rejected this proposal as soon as I had a look at my wife's horoscope.3 debilitated planets-Sun , Jupiter and Venus- would render all good yogas in her chart ineffective and the effects of debilitated planets would also be there. Each time I talked to my parents, they kept bringing up the gana koota score-34/36 acccording to some softwares.Eventually I gave more weightage to the score and compared it with others' scores and got married.

Rajath, when i just started studying astrology , I had this habit of throwing away a horoscope simply because I would spot a debilitated planet in it . I was being personally biased . With two debilitated planets in my chart , which managed to screw up my education , I was all out to denounce a debilitated planet . Little did I realise , That it is these very same planets which kept me grounded . I fought hard to gain profeciency in language and speech . It was tough , But i sailed through. Budha and Guru might have failed me with a degree , But they gave me the ability to run a business . Belive me , I am floating because of these two debilitated planets today .
Every time I used to throw a horoscope away discounting a debility in a planet , Shrinivas Rao ji used to caution me and say that I was doing wrong . Reality hit me , when one day I saw Micheal Jordan's chart . It was a shocker . 4 planets in debilitation , 2 in the D1 and 2 in the Navamsha . I fought hard to figure out one good factor in that horoscope , but to no avail . Nothing I saw could make sense of how he became the greatest basket ball player in the world . Nothing . That day , I begain to doubt astrology . I began to doubt every dictum , and i started to say to my self that astrology is nothing but snake oil . Its pure bull Shiit . It was when I read Dr David Frawley's book , that I realised how wrong I was . Seriously , That is the day I realised " A little knowledge is dangerious " . I picked up all the horoscopes I had disgarded and saw them with a new eye ....... It all started to make sense .

Here is where I think I made the first mistake. I should have considered analysis from all lagnas-sun, moon mars instead of just the gana koota score.

I have provided the analysis from all the planets . Nothing is below par . I saw that before I said yes .

I have pisces lagna and she has libra lagna. I consider that I have more brahmin like qualities-non-smoker, teetotaller and vegetarian becos of my upbringing and she is just the opposite minus smoking. She has to have meat every day. Gosh, I cant believe such gluttony for eating meat amongst her relatives. Here I must say that before marriage I knew she was a non-vegetarian but I thought it was controlled and only on limited days. But cheeze, u have to see to believe the consumption of meat. Some time back, there was auspicious function at our home and her parents were asking if the food served was going to be vegetarian or non-vegetarian. I mean seriously, I was sooo furious that day. Dont they have that much common sense that non-vegetarian foods are not for auspicious functions. And in our house we never cook meat. This is the first of many fundamental points of differences. Astrologically speaking, the differences start from the lagnas itself. as mentione above, I have pisces and she has libra as lagna. Pisces is more satvic and libra is more tamasic.And as ranbir has rightly pointed out the two lagnas are mutually 6/8 from each other. I suppose this is where the differences begin to crop up.

Rajath, I have always said that "To whom you are born, where you are born, where you live, and how you are built physically, are the basics pillars on which a horoscope rests . my girlfriend smoked, Matched me drink for drink , and ate like a glutton ( Today I hate people who eat beef and pork / but at one point of time , I was one of them ) she ate every thing including Veal ( meat of a Calf ) I used to fume and fret, But I realised that in order to keep a stable relationship, You have to meet the partner half way . There is no other way Rajath . We are in the 21st century , women come in such packages . She used to order what she wants , I used to order what I wanted , things got along fine . In the course of time , she asked me why I did not like to eat meat . I took her to a slaughter house , that was that . she cut down drastically . I explained the pros and cons , the law of karma , the misery the animal goes through ....... she understood it , and cut down , eventually she stopped eating veal , beef, pork, and mutton, she still eats chicken though ....... but she assures me that she has cut down to once a week . That is a huge improvement by her standards . I was thrilled that I converted some one from being a meat glutton into a normal human . she is happy she has given up , and thankful that i was patient with her .

Comming to a 6/8 relationship , how many horoscopes will you find where you get the perfect synastry scores , the perfect Guna milan scores , and finally a clear 2nd , 4th , 7th , 8th , and 12th house ?? . You are now focussing on the negative of the 6/8 relationship of the lagna . But you conviniently forget that Tula lagna born women are better looking , because Shukra is the lord . Did you not fall for her looks ?? I have said before , Synastry is oe of the parameters to match a horoscope , there are other factors that need to be looked at . If I was to nit pick on every factor being right , you would not get married in this life time . Actually nobody will .

Further, I am a strong stickler to traditions and custom-may be Saturn which is digbali in my chart is responsible for this. And my wife's side will give a rats rose to customs and traditions. They have only 1 tradition and that is to drink dance and gamble all day and night.I mean even the most simplest of practices that is normally done in south indian marriages, they did not do it. I took all of them in my stride and still went ahead with the actual wedding without creating scenes.

Horoscopes appart , did you not know her families traits before marriage ?? I am suprised . As far as you being a stickler for tradition is concerned , Shani is off course the Karaka , but it is tainted by Kuja there . It is Kuja who is actually inducing these traits in you ....... Being the 9th lord ( Customs and traditions, Purity of mind . ) . I really dont know what to say . I still feel you need to meet her half way . Marriage is about sharing , giving and taking . Its not a one stop shop , where you get to take all the goodies , and then not pay .

For what mistake of mine should I keep compromising my beliefs.
I just feel that spiritually, we are not aligned or not on the same plane- one is behind the other on the spiritual ladder.

Has spirituality been defined and ratified Rajath ?? are there any scales or parameters set for this ?? is there a measure ?? Each one has his own way of accepting and dealing with his God . Even a prostitute will go to a church on a Sunday. Jesus actually protected a prostitute from being stoned to death . Do not count your self as higher . For all you know , she might be ahead of you in the race . Please do not judge . you do not have to compromise your beliefs at all , you follow your's let her follow her's , in time you will find common meeting ground . believe me .

Astroboy avare, somewhere in the thread, you have mentioned that my wife's shukra is very strong- strong by being in Vargothama and astatkavarga bala too and strongest planet in Vimshopaka . I am sure u would have noticed that Venus is in deep debilitation.

I have answered this above . If I have noticed that Shukra is strong in Vimshopaka , I would sure have noticed the degree of Shukra .

Also her Jupiter is debilitated and in the 4th house. 4th house is 10th to 7th- career of the spouse. So even my career will not see any progress or probably will be doomed if I continue with her. I know even my horoscope does not support a great career but I was hoping that my career would progress after marriage. Forget progress I just hope I dont go back wards because of the horrible placement of Jupiter in her horoscope.

I know a person with a debilitated 4th lord , who owns 4 houses , bought a new one , and invited me there. she knows how to decorate, maintain and run a house better than I do . And I have the 4th lord exalted in the lagna in deep exaltation . Rajath , one piece of advice , never piggy back on another person's horoscope . Forget about her placement of Guru . Take a look at yours . Look at where he is , in which nakshatra he is in , look at the dispositor's condition . It all adds up .

And Sun which is badakaraka for libra is debilitated in lagna itself.what great placement and I am certainly the most lucky one. Did v leave out any other planets which are not debilitated in her chart? I am certainly a very blessed soul for marrying such a person. Right now I have a poison chalise in my hand...if I continue to live with her, she will pour the poison in it and one day I will gulp it because i cannot take it any more and would be left with no options

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I have a exalted Badaka in the lagna . Is that good ?? You decide . Do you know ,sometimes Its good for a evil planet to be debilitated ?? You forgot about Neecha Bhanga , by being in the lagna . Aishwarya Rai has a debilitated Ravi . is that Bad ?? Ravi stands for fame . Do you think she lacks it ?? You are being Myopic Rajath . You have convinced your self that this is not going to work . You just gave up . simple .

Since in my horoscope, since 2nd and 9th lord Mars was placed in 7th house, every one indicated that my luck would change after marriage and I was really optimistic about that....well its suffice to say, I have become pessimistic.Sometime makes me question even astrology itself which I know is above questioning.

Yes you have become pessimistic . That is where the problem is . Nowhere else . You are reading too much into the negatives Rajath. Listen , I was once a vorocious meat eater . I would start the day with 2 eggs , bacon , ham , cheese and bread . for lunch , fish , chicken and eggs , for dinner , 3 pegs, kebabs and briyani . This is what it was day in and day out . One day I went to buy some mutton for the house , the butcher , picked up a goat and slit its throat right in front of me .... That was it , i was transfixed in horror . I came home and swore never to eat mutton again . I continued to eat everything except mutton ....... as days went by , some one told me , why dont you see all the animals getting butchered , that should help you stop everything . I did that , quit meat completely . Look , free will is a huge component . we can manipulate kriyamana karma to off set our prarabdha . there is a saying , we cannot direct the wind , "but we can adjust the sail" .

I know, her D1 chart is horrible while her D9 chart is good. what good if the tree itself is diseased. the fruit will invariably be diseased as well. And I and only I have to eat the fruit. That is true if I continue with this marriage. Isn't it just practical to just go our ways than live together and die every day because there is no compatibility.

Who said there is no compatibility ?? . You have already passed a death sentence against the tree , you have not even taken the time to sample the fruit yet Rajath . In 6 months , you have said , I have had enough . I do not know what to say .

I am not with out blame either. even my d1 chart is afflicted but aleast i dont have 3 debilitated planets. In fact most of the astrologers had said that I was destined marry twice-becos of the SA-Ma conjunction in the 7th house in virgo.

You know , you have a fixation with the second marriage bit . Get that out of your head . With this fixation , you would still have found fault in a woman with 6 exalted planets . Get that funda out of your head .

[anuradha]

Deepakji, I Agree with you. Hoai Wahi Jo Ram Rachi Rakha.regards

[rajath25]

Respected astroboy Sir,

I feel a bit guilty that I made you lose sleep over this post of mine. My apologies to you astroboy sir. I accept your advice whole heartedly and shall do my bit in this regard. I shall keep you posted.

Just a few thoughts of mine wrt to astrological placements-

First and foremost, I regret that my comments regarding spirituality got interpreted as me being ahead on the spiritual ladder. I am no one to judge others spirituality and she may well be ahead on the spirituality scale. However, me being satwik in nature and quality, believe eating meat, wine and gambling does not take you close to HIM...I stand to be corrected if I am wrong...just my 2 cents regarding spiritualism.

She is definitely tula born and Shukra is the lord. "Did I fall for her looks ?" We all know where Shukra is in her chart. Also I have been in US for almost 8 years now, all I can say is I have seen hottest brunnettes, blondes and red heads. Here I want to strongly emphasize, that never ever did I "cross the line"...honestly never even asked any one out. If you dont get me wrong..I am proud of this fact. I suppose the way I was brought up had something to do with this.

The point I am trying to make is...that looks did not bother me that much...I did not give that much weightage at the time of accepting the proposal.

Coming to traditions and customs, I believe they are in place for a reason. Probably we may not know it. If we dont follow the practices of vedic marriage...who else will... Muslims, Bahais, Christians? Will they ever give up on their practices? If I was looking for a hi-fi modern marriage shorn of all rituals and customs I could have got married to an american here and all I had to do was kiss and say I do....yeah and the marriage is over...That is NOT the kind of marriage I wanted. and I trusted my parents will understand me and get me the right match. My wife's relatives definitely have 1 tradition...dance drink and gamble...all things which I hate...I mean absolutely HATE.

We sure are in 21st century and I believe we need to adapt...but I think Sun still rises in the east...doesn't it? and it will keep rising in the east as long as human kind is alive on earth. Likewise, I believe no matter what we should never compromise on our core beliefs. The point is a woman is respected by being a woman. If she tries to become a man just becos we are in 21st century..then Sun should try to rise in the west and moon shud get brighter than Sun.21st century you see..lets change...yeah right.

I INTEND NO OFFENCE TO ANYONE WITH MY ABOVE COMMENTS.

Further, I did not know of her family traits before marriage..I was like if my parents have liked surely they would have considered all factors...I was so damn wrong and am now repenting for trusting my parents. Also as I have mentioned before, I have been in US for 8 almost years now and I outsourced match making to my parents.

Coming to JU debilitation in 4th lord- I did not expect anything from her...all I was expecting was some astrological support from her chart wrt my career.

Sun neecha banga though debilitated...u r correct...debilitation is debilitation and I already experienced it...all I have got from her to this day is her medical bills. Talk about luck changing after marriage.

I shall take an exalted planet in the lagna anyday even if it is a badaka. If I am not wrong, you must be makara lagan native. If that is correct, exalted Kuja- lord of 11th and 4th- would give you tremendous amount of wealth and land along with troubles..Kuja being Kuja and exalted....will always give you the strength and the means to over come them. But with Sun debilitated in lagna...there is no way she can add to my wealth kitty and would only add to medical expenses...Where is Neecha banga ?. Its just been Neecha and its effects so far.

About tree and fruit....what is the point of astrology if we eat the fruit knowing fully well that it will harm you one day. Dont u think its wise to get out of it when I have had only a small portion of it rather than the entire fruit?

and about Aishwarya rai, I think she has exalted venus...but I could be wrong as debilitated ravi and exalted shukara cannot happen at the same time in a natal chart.

I know I might have ruffled a lot of feathers in this forum with this post. I have become pessimistic ...becos I am still trying to look for positives in our lives in the last 4 months that I can cling to in these times of rough tide.

I welcome all responses and eagerly look forward to it.

Warm regards
Rajath

[swamykool]

Dear Rajath25,

Don't blame either yourself or your wife for your respective charts. The planets are where they are and you did not put them there.

You are currently running the dasha of Jup-Ven. These two are dire enemies by panchadha maitri. Jup is your Lg Lord and Ven is your 8th L. There is a rashi parivartan yoga as Jup [R] is in 8th and Ven is in the Lg, exalted. This phase is bound to create marital discord. Also Jup rules the Vipat Tara (Danger - 3rd Nk) and Ven rules the Naidhana Tara (Death - 7th Nk). Things might get a little better after 08/05/2011 and would improve considerably after the middle of 2012 when the antardasha changes. Till then, hold your horses a little bit.

Your wife:

She is running the dasha of Sat-Sat. Sat is the yogakaraka for her chart and Sat is in his own Nk (Anu) but Sat's dispositor is in the 12th (7th and 2nd L in the 12th). And Sat owns the Vipat Tara in her Navtara chakra. Saturn also owns both (fr lg and Moon) the Vainashika Tara's (Destruction - Pushya and Uttarabhadrapada) as per the Sarvatobhadra Chakra. And currently as per transit Sat is transiting the natal Mars in Hasta and giving full Nk aspect (Vedha) to her Vainashika Nk (Ubh). The whole of 2011 is going to be very bad for her. Things might improve a little after December 2011. And then somewhat more after June 2012.


You are correct in your assumption that these two charts are not very well matched, even though the Kuta Milan scores are near perfect. Lagna positions in 6/8 or 2/12 creates an instinctive disharmony which cannot be explained by rationality (moon). And exalted Ven and Deb Ven in 1/7 in both Rashi and Navamsha between the two charts have added to the disharmony. Also the dasha timing of your marriage was bad.

Regarding prosperity I am a bit confused by your claims. In the Navtara Chakra your wifes Janma Nk falls in your Sampat Nk. Think dispassionately and kindly let me know whether your income and investments (liquid and immovable) have increased, decreased or remained the same, after marriage.

But what's done is done. Try your best to make this work and try to be considerate during the time periods mentioned above. Have an open talk with your wife. God willing things will blow over. Marriage is no child's play, so don't think about dissolving a marriage at the drop of a hat. This marriage won't be great shakes, not by any stretch of imagination but it can bring forth happy progeny. Your charts points that way.

Regarding poorva janma connections, I am not so sure, may be there are some Jaimini yogas.

Regards
swamykool

[astroboy]

Swamy cool ji , Good day to you ,

I can't help but feel that I have made a fatal error here . I matched the chart's , saw the afflictions , did see the 6/8 of the lagna , . It is not that I did not notice the afflictions in both charts . What I did was to match the dosha's and off set one against the other . Nothing else . seems to me , Cat and cat , snake and snake , is wrong . It has to be mongoose, snake , cat and dog . But whose snake should be killed with whose moongoose is the question . I have to bow down and accept today my Guru Shrinivas Rao ji's rule and dictum , "Indian men always want women to dance to their tunes . equality is not the key word in our society . You should always ensure that the woman is submissive to the man . " How many times have I argued with him on this , telling him that , it was in the last century, and how many times has he explained patiently . This case proves the point well . He wins . I lose . ( And I am the one who harps on Desha , kala , patra ) . the Irony .

I was also swayed by the 1/1 Kuja . I thought both might argue , but will eventually settle down , knowing both are equally suited for each other in a fight.

But having said this , My faith in compatibility is still unshakable . I still firmly believe in this science . I am not being adamant or stupid . I just accept this as my failure , and my failure alone . I cannot blame the science . I have to accept my failure in this case .

On a side note,
I am also reminded once again of the power of Shani + Kuja . That agni Marutha yoga is absolutely spot on . Its unbelievable .

Best regard's

[swamykool]

Astroboy,

I have to bow down and accept today my Guru Shrinivas Rao ji's rule and dictum , "Indian men always want women to dance to their tunes . equality is not the key word in our society . You should always ensure that the woman is submissive to the man . "

First of all, Srinivas ji is a brilliantly insightful man. And why only Indian men? Every man wants to wear the pants. Show me one who doesn't and I'll show you either a wimp or a liar. Only the degree varies.

There are many points of dissimilarity but I'll mention two.

The moons - Girl - Ardra, Boy - Mrigashira. Ardra is a tikshna (sharp) and very powerful Nk, Mrigashira is a Mridu (soft) and indecisive/easygoing Nk. Ardra is a tiger, Mrigashira is a pussycat.

The Lagnas: Girl - Swati, Boy - Uttarabhadrapada. Again Swati is a very powerful Nk, wants to enjoy all the good things in life and tries to dominate regardless of every adversity. Uttarabhadrapada is a ascetic Nk, deeply religious,unobtrusive and reclusive. Doesn't believe in imposing upon others but holds ones own convictions very strongly. The deity is Ahirbudhanya - the Rigvedic name for Vasuki - the serpent of the deep. Here a yogi has been hitched with a bhogi.

Thus pussycat (no offence please) and tiger, yogi and bhogi. So who dominates?

So how can there be harmony even if the moon is in the same rashi? And remember one injuntion of the Prashna Marga - for the same rashi, the male's nk must be ahead of the female's, then there will be happiness otherwise trouble.

Serpent and Dog (moon) and Cow and buffalo (lagna) are are good actually.

This is the reason chart matching actually has to be 'done by hand'. Unfortunately this makes the process very time-taking and serious hard work. Computer generated matches are ok technically but one must keep and eagle eye on the subtle factors and one must never chuck common horse sense.

Yes the agni maruta yoga is spot on but don't ignore the parivatan between the LL and the 8th L (Jup-Ven). See in whose MD-AD trouble started? Also note in Rajath's chart Rahu in Punarvasu and Guru in Swati.

Btw could you throw some light on the Poorva janma thing. I didn't find any but I might be wrong.

PS - just see the 1/7 position and overlaps between Marses and Venuses between the two charts.
Regards
swamykool

[kandhan]

Deepakji, are you talking about Astrology of the Seers by D. Frawley?

[kunalbhardwaj27]

by swamykool » Mon Apr 18, 2011 2:05 am
Here a yogi has been hitched with a bhogi.

[kunalbhardwaj27]

by swamykool » Mon Apr 18, 2011 2:05 am

Ardra is a tiger, Mrigashira is a pussycat.

Every man wants to wear the pants. Show me one who doesn't and I'll show you either a wimp or a liar. Only the degree varies.

[anuradha]

Deepakji, Apart from very high points in matching done by you, the other favourable points are1. Karkamsha of boy is Meena and girl is Kanya at 1-7 axis very good for mutual attraction. 2. Mars of girl and Venus of Boy is again at 1-7 axis ,again a very positive point. 3. In D-9 of girl Saturn is in 7H, see the chart of boy Saturn is in the 7H in rashi chart. 4. In D-9 0f boy Rahu is in the 7H see the chart of girl Rahu is in the 7H of rashi chart. You can understand what it indicates.The problem they are facing is due to bad dasha and Venus in Dual rashi in both the charts. Moon is also in Kemdrum, in case of girl and very weak in pakha bala and with Rahu in case of boy. They do not trust each other due to this, is the major problem. Just wait for six more months when the pratantar of Jupiter will star and in transit Jupiter will be in Mesha , strong in ashtakvarga for her. Hope he will understand this. regards

[Nitin21]

Drik

Venus exalted vargottama in lagna should virtually cancel every negativity in the chart. Sat+Mars should not be able to show this mercilessness with Venus in lagna. Navamsa is not too bad. 7th house has aspect of Jup from mooltrikona sign. Venus is also navamsa lagna lord which is vargottama and also in Gopuramsa. Is that Exalted Venus forming malavya yoga too good to be true ? Should'nt it be cancelling all the negativity of the horoscope being rising in the eastern horizon. ?

How did Sat+Mars get over ? Is'nt there anything called a benefic's protection ? When Navamsa 7th is protected by mooltrikona jupiter and rasi 7th by exalted venus, why is the native still suffering in marriage ?

Surya Siddhanta

Venus shifts to 2nd house. Now Sat+Mars are alone, without protection in Rasi. In Navamsa 8th lord venus in 7th in aries, although vargottama. 7th lord merc in 8th navamsa with Rahu. No jupiter protection on 7th. 7th lord is retro and with 6th lord Sun.

One good thing is Jup protects 8th house with Rahu+Merc.

Now the case makes sense as the guy looks cornered from all sides by the girl and her family.

apply savana year settings on Vimshottari and guy runs Jup-Venus. Venus being 8th lord in rasi and navamsa both and sits in 7th navamsa. Story becomes clear. Add to it, Lord Shani transitting through natal saturn in rasi.

When I last saw Rajaths Chart, I made a fatal mistake of looking at exalted venus vargottama in lagna and implying that it will save. But did it ? NO. It means it is not there in lagna. As the native is not protected.

This is astrological part of it.

Now that it has happened, what are the remedial actions that native can undertake to come out of these problems.

1. Pacify the host of 7th house. i.e. Mercury. SVS Recital everyday.
2. Pacify the Antardasha Lord i.e. Venus which is 8th Lord. Shri Mahalaxmi ashtakam everyday.
3. Pacify Shanidev because of 7th house transit over natal. Visit Shanidev temple offer black til, oil. Help poor.

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Few Philosophical points to note:

1. I personally believe an astrologer must neither be happy when the chart is correctly matched and the couple is happy nor should we be in distress, if it does not come out right. Marriages are anadi karma. It will happen irrespective of chart matching and other factors. We are only channels to make the native aware of what is coming in. Whatever has happened, would have happened anyway irrespective of who was the channel here. Whether it was astrologer, parents, wife, friends, etc whoever it was. These will merely become channels and one must hold calm in these times of distress. 8th house AD relates to prarabdha for everyone. The very thought that had i looked at these factors in my chart or girls chart, is an indication that Lord did not give these indicators to the native while the decision was being made, because this was destined to happen.

for the rest of Karmas other than marriage, these thoughts of mine may not necessarily apply.

2. It is a very difficult situation for the boy and girl both. I believe if this has to work, the girl must consider this new home as hers and must follow the procedures of the new house of husband. At the same time, husband must understand that she has been brought up in a different environment and if girl is willing to rectify herself, the guy must cooperate with her to come out of those tamasik habits. It is always better for Tamas to move up the ladder to satva rather than satva starting eating nonveg. It benefits none if the latter is to be decided as a compromise. Life would be a waste. If this has to happen the love of the Girl should prevail higher than the taste for meat. If it is not there, than irrespective of veg-nonveg consumption, there will be world wars in marriage.

3. Every situation in life MUST be taken as our own binding karmas. Best must be done to follow dharma. So, adequate time must be given to this marriage via remedies and consultation by parents from both sides to make this work. ONLY as a last resort should seperation be considered. It should literally be the last straw on the camel's back, if seperation has to happen.


These are my views and not necessarily one must take them as verbatim.

Best Regards
Sonu

[Abhijit Muhurta !!!]

We sure are in 21st century and I believe we need to adapt...but I think Sun still rises in the east...doesn't it? and it will keep rising in the east as long as human kind is alive on earth. Likewise, I believe no matter what we should never compromise on our core beliefs. The point is a woman is respected by being a woman. If she tries to become a man just becos we are in 21st century..then Sun should try to rise in the west and moon shud get brighter than Sun.21st century you see..lets change...yeah right.

Dude..... as we all know (and i am sure you do too ! ) that the Sun has always been stationery and its the earth that is rotating. Your discription of the Sun "rises" and "sets" goes to show you belong to the old school. No Problem with that at all. This is a free world and i believe everyone has his/her right to live the way they want under the Sun.
Take a leaf out of Astroboy's life and play along buddy. As long as she is not stuffing meat in your mouth or gambles away your hard earned money whats your problem ? You say you have stayed in the U.S for 8 odd years. do you mean to say you have never eaten out ? If you have ....then have you entered their kitchen to see whether they are using separate oils to fry your veg patty and a beef patty for the burgers or Your panner fry and a pork fry ? ( Indian restaurants are notorious for such transgressions !!! )
You say you are spiritual and then also say that you were expecting your wife's horoscope to further your career Am i hearing a MCP oink somewhere ?

The days of your grandma are over. If you wanted some mild and meek mannered woman then your parents should have picked one from the villages. someone from financially and socially lower strata ie a glorified maid and you'd have been happpy. You wont get anyone in today's age with education and affluence to serve at your majesty's service. Sorry if i have sounded harsh but just raised a mirror for some introspection. Take what you got and make the most of it .
And if you are hell bent on your ideas of how a "women should be a women" etc then let her go. I am sure she wont mind it either. She would surely find a man who acts like a man.
Regards,
P.S: i am no astrologer. Just posting my views from a social perspective.

[astroboy]

Kandan ji , Good day to you ,


Ayurvedic Astrology, By David Frawley page 209

Best regard's

[nirmala]

@Abhijit Muhurta : You hit the nail on the head!!!


@Rajath : You seem so hell bent on ending your marriage, have you thought whats the guarantee that your second marriage would be better? Even people who have love marriages need a lot of adjustment!!
Think about this -- Even siblings fight .. they are related by blood, grow up together,have same family values, cultural background, but even then they don't see eye to eye on everything. Then how do you expect your spouse to agree with you on ever matter?
Adjustment is needed in every relationship. As you spend more time with each other,as the relationship grows, things will fall into place.
You made a life time commitment to this woman and you're backing out after just 6 months??? Ask yourself .. have you even given it a fair and decent shot?
You say you're traditional yet you are willing to throw away your marriage. We are random strangers on this forum and we can only hope you do the right thing..but seeing your frame of mind.. the only thing i can say is "Vinash kale vipreet budhi"