You can't use charts like Ramakirshna, Yogananda etc for spiritual examples. Why? These beings were already free before they took birth, their charts are just focal points for manifestation. Many people were born at the same time as Ramakrishna, they were highly dharmic, probably never cheated on their wives or drank alcohol.
Hi Satabisha,
If I may say so. You are absolutely right about what you have said. Infact, Its not the planets which shaped their lives. They are above the planets. I would say the planets were planted in a manner to suit the profile . Coming to using these charts - I would think it would be great to study these charts purely from an academic point of view, Isn't it?
Basab Ji,Psychologyst Ji,predestiny k taranhar Ji,........whatever You are but ur a nice person.Will write you for sure whenever I feel so. I think my those sentence pinch you much more about why I m not writing you.I jst said frankly.Now I feel bad.
Anyways May God bless you....
Regards & thanks,
Jay shree krishna.
Zarna
Oh No my friend, I am not following the charts of the divine saints and trying to forcefit it into my life. I follow my heart for sure. Is there any harm in studying the chart from an astrological point of view? I dont think so. To each his own. And yes I might follow the teachings of the divine saints, if it makes sense to me and my heart says so. Who is talking about not praying. Infact the best thing to do is to talk to God. Yes I do that a lot.
This thread is about spirituality and renunciation and the impediments to the same. The things that you spoke about don't fit in here . Infact I have just been told, I don't fit in here from my chart . This is the first time I have heard this and I am wondering what I am doing in a divine thread like this
by Zarna » Tue Feb 08, 2011 2:25 pm
Thank you very much for you kind & prompt response & detailed analysis of the chart.I am sure abt TOB & lagna is surely Makara.Good to know about all combination.Lucky she is!!What do you mean by wars between two spiritually inclined planets?which are they?saturn and jupiter?She deeply believes in SHiv-shakti & worshiper of lord Ganesha.But one thing I tell abt her is she always used to listen/sing dhuna,she sometimes behaves like faqir,even she used to listen some sufi(Haji ali)nam dhuna.She is strong believer of Evils vs Devils fighting on earth which is only constant whether out side the person or inside the person.But main thing i observed is in any difficult situation,she is extremely faithful on her God.She believes lord Dattatrey as her virtual guru.That's all about what I knew.
Astroboy Ji, can we see from woman's chart whether she will have such a spiritual husband or not?or at least with some traits?if it is not in astrology literature/books,hve you noticed similar things in charts.It will be your kind help if you share some experience/knowledge.
Wars between two spritually planets mean that there is a war between Guru / shani and Ketu / Budha . Guru and Ketu have won the war .
as far as she being a Shiva Shakthi worshipper , It is but natural that she is that because of the fact that 4 planets + lagna are in Makara . Makara is the Amsha of Shiva . . Its a little know fact , but true to the T .
She believes lord Dattatrey as her virtual guru.That's all about what I knew
Zarna ji , do you know the Vahana of Datrataya ???
Dattatreya is considered to be the supreme God, and more widely as encompassing the trinity of Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva. The name Dattatreya can be divided into two words - "Datta" (meaning given) and "Atreya" (meaning sage Atri). Atri sage was given the boon by supreme lord that He will come as his son, hence the name Dattatreya.
Various Hindu sect worship Him differently. In the Nath tradition, Dattatreya is recognized as an Avatar or incarnation of the Shiva ( note the planets in her horoscope . 4 critical planets are in Makara Rashi , ruled by Shiva . ) and as the Adi-Guru (First Teacher) of the Adinath Sampradaya of the Nathas. Although Dattatreya was at first a "Lord of Yoga" exhibiting distinctly Tantric traits, he was adapted and assimilated into the more devotional and worshiped by millions of Hindus, he is approached more as a benevolent god than as a teacher of the highest essence of Indian thought. Dattatreya is credited as the author of the Tripura Rahasya given to Parasurama, a treatise on Advaita . The vahana of Dattatreya is the Dog . Pre-Vedic Indian dogs were regarded as auspicious symbols, and later deities assumed dog forms, became associated with dogs, and were linked with the glory and fidelity of warriors. Four different-coloured dogs accompanied the Dattatreya, who represented the four Vedas...Dogs also held the cultural significance of 'dog eaters' (chandala) those who existed beyond the confines of Varnashrama Dharma. Dogs are also both wild, tame and symbols of fidelity and devotion (bhakti).
Through hard work and spiritual practices, a person gets honor and dignity. The lazy one who puts in no efforts is like a fool who allows salt to be spilled on the wounds of his misfortunes. The idler depending only on fate, achieves nothing. - K.N.Rao ji
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Through hard work and spiritual practices, a person gets honor and dignity. The lazy one who puts in no efforts is like a fool who allows salt to be spilled on the wounds of his misfortunes. The idler depending only on fate, achieves nothing. - K.N.Rao ji
I read somewhere if I remember right that Dattatreya is to be worshipped to strengthen brihaspathi/guru. He is the atidevata or so. Your thoughts on this?
Anyway your guru has mentioned that one who has kuldev as guru needs to worship the trinity of Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva.
by Zarna » Tue Feb 08, 2011 2:25 pm
can we see from woman's chart whether she will have such a spiritual husband or not?or at least with some traits?if it is not in astrology literature/books,hve you noticed similar things in charts.It will be your kind help if you share some experience/knowledge
Zarna ji , a simple funda in astrology states that when Rahu is in the 7th , Take it for granted that its a tough marriage . Having said that , Note the fact that this woman will find it extremely difficult to run / sustain marriage . Note two dangerious planets aspecting the 7th house , kuja and Ravi . These two champs along with Mr ketu are enough to send a marriage to space . I suggest that she refrain from marriage . if she does get married , then the planets are only burning her Runas . I suggest that she burn her runas outside a marriage . she is unfit for marriage . simple as that . he marriage will be a disaster but , look at the bright side , It will only serve to strengthen spirituality . ( people reading this , dont jump and spill your Coffee on my lap . He 7th is in the 6th , 6th aspects the 7th , 8th aspects the 7th , and to top it all , Ketu aspects the 7th . marriage is a tough equation )
Through hard work and spiritual practices, a person gets honor and dignity. The lazy one who puts in no efforts is like a fool who allows salt to be spilled on the wounds of his misfortunes. The idler depending only on fate, achieves nothing. - K.N.Rao ji
by nidi83 » Tue Feb 08, 2011 1:04 pm
No Astroboy I stopped feeling bad a long time ago. Your analysis is as colorful as your language. I am on this thread because these are the only things I am and I have always been attracted to. What about ketu jupiter in the 8th, moon in the 9th. Missed that?:). You seem to pick up the most colorful bits and pieces. What about education? Missed that?
Thanking you!
Nidi
Nidhi Ketu and jupiter in the 8th , are like 2 balls on a christmas tree . They are there only for decoration . look at the lord of the Rashi . He is debilitated and is aspected by the Badaka lord Shani . As far as education goes , You might be a engineer or a doctor . But this is a thread for Spirituality . These two professions do not cut any ice with spirituality .
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Through hard work and spiritual practices, a person gets honor and dignity. The lazy one who puts in no efforts is like a fool who allows salt to be spilled on the wounds of his misfortunes. The idler depending only on fate, achieves nothing. - K.N.Rao ji
Nidhi you have a beautiful Budha Aditya yoga, Made very strong because the sun is exalted in the navamsa, sitting in his own house and Moolatrikona in the rashi and Budha avoiding combustion and moving fast towards his point of exaltation. High intelligence, Good analytical capability, memory, and brilliance. , please do not instigate me . I dont want a fight between a exalted and a debilitated Kuja , and a well placed Budha and a Neecha Budha .
You ask me when you will think of God , I will tell you . Let us not have a fight please .
Through hard work and spiritual practices, a person gets honor and dignity. The lazy one who puts in no efforts is like a fool who allows salt to be spilled on the wounds of his misfortunes. The idler depending only on fate, achieves nothing. - K.N.Rao ji
Thank u Once again ..astroboyji..
What a detailed reply...Thank you again.Not only you have analyzed her chart but also shared a knowledge about lord dattatrey.I know story about lord dattatrey as perhaps saibaba(shirdi)is said to be another incarnation of lord dattatrey.I have read all about.
I can see only 4 dogs
Devji where are the other 8? I am not able to see?
I dont know the reason bt she wants to marry.Anyways if it's destined,it will be so.
very much happy to see your prompt response.
Regards,
Jay shree krishna,
Zarna
Zarna ji , there were 3 pictures posted . I have a debilitated Budha and my brains dont work so fast . I was trying to align the pictures and hence the screw up . I posted the same pic thrice . I am technologically challenged you see . , Hence Dev ji saw 3 pics and multiplied it by 4 dogs and came up with 12 )( I used a calculator for that )
Through hard work and spiritual practices, a person gets honor and dignity. The lazy one who puts in no efforts is like a fool who allows salt to be spilled on the wounds of his misfortunes. The idler depending only on fate, achieves nothing. - K.N.Rao ji
astroboy wrote:You might be a engineer or a doctor . But this is a thread for Spirituality . These two professions do not cut any ice with spirituality .
I have to challange you on this. If you dont mind me asking...what do you mean when you say these two professions do not cut any ice with spirituality?
by DHV » Tue Feb 08, 2011 6:01 pm
Dear Astroboy
astroboy wrote:
You might be a engineer or a doctor . But this is a thread for Spirituality . These two professions do not cut any ice with spirituality .
I have to challange you on this. If you dont mind me asking...what do you mean when you say these two professions do not cut any ice with spirituality?
Kind regards
deeksha
DHV ji , we are discussing Spirituality and Renunciation of a different league . I refer to the above statement keeping in mind Nidhi 83's horoscope only . She was asking me about her education . This is not the thread to discuss it .
please see why I made that statement ,
by nidi83 » Tue Feb 08, 2011 1:04 pm
No Astroboy I stopped feeling bad a long time ago. Your analysis is as colorful as your language. I am on this thread because these are the only things I am and I have always been attracted to. What about ketu jupiter in the 8th, moon in the 9th. Missed that?:). You seem to pick up the most colorful bits and pieces. What about education? Missed that?
Through hard work and spiritual practices, a person gets honor and dignity. The lazy one who puts in no efforts is like a fool who allows salt to be spilled on the wounds of his misfortunes. The idler depending only on fate, achieves nothing. - K.N.Rao ji
These two professions do not cut any ice with spirituality .
.
Dear Astroboy,
Doctors and Engineers cannot be spiritual? This is news to me.
Nidhi you have a beautiful Budha Aditya yoga, Made very strong because the sun is exalted in the navamsa, sitting in his own house and Moolatrikona in the rashi and Budha avoiding combustion and moving fast towards his point of exaltation. High intelligence, Good analytical capability, memory, and brilliance. , please do not instigate me . I dont want a fight between a exalted and a debilitated Kuja , and a well placed Budha and a Neecha Budha .
Why would I instigate you Astroboy. You are talking about me here. I don't like to fight at all. Infact I feel its a waste of time and energy. You like to fight? Exalted Kuja or not, I strongly feel, one should not waste time on these things. Every person has a good and bad side. Lets look for the positives as well. You came up with Sasa Yoga. Let me state another yoga in the horoscope.
Viparita Vimala Raja Yoga
The 12th lord is in the 6th, 8th or 12th house (Phala Deepika 6/69).
This makes the person virtuous and contented. The person will be equipped with good behaviour towards others, will enjoy happiness, will be independent, following a respectable profession or conduct, and will be known for good qualities.
More on the Buddha Aditya Yoga:
The person is sweet tongued, clever, scholarly, virtuous and will have learning, wealth, progeny and self-control, earns wealth by serving others. Also said to be highly intelligent, skillful in all works with a good reputation
So its always good to see 2 sides of the coin.
You ask me when you will think of God , I will tell you . Let us not have a fight please .
Why do you keep saying fight. Does it look like I want to fight with you. Thats the last thing on my mind. I don't know about you. I don't need to ask you when I will think of God. I think of him quite often actually. I am not saying I am highly spiritual. But I think I am quite into Bhakti Sadhana. Not blowing my own trumpet here. But thats a fact.
On a lighter note, You won't fight with me. Remember you have a soft corner for 83 born
Aseem what is DB? Yes please analyse wherever you want. Yes mother and I are very different in our thinking which causes friction sometimes. No to the other two.
Nidhi , I have noted your points . I have also noted your Vimala Viparita Raja Yoga . Nothing remarkable about it since its tainted by Ketu and the dispositor is debilitated . I have also noted the strength of the Budha Adithya yoga . But note its tainted because Ravi is in Gandanta , and the 5th is tainted by a Retro Shukra . All in all , Let me tell you . You have fantastic yogas for education, wealth, and status . Spirituality ........... that's out of the league .
Through hard work and spiritual practices, a person gets honor and dignity. The lazy one who puts in no efforts is like a fool who allows salt to be spilled on the wounds of his misfortunes. The idler depending only on fate, achieves nothing. - K.N.Rao ji
I beg to differ on her being out of the league when it comes to spirituality. Her being here discussing it is the biggest proof that she is into it to some extent. Now coming to her chart, 4th, 8th and 12th houses are the houses of moksha, corresponding to the 3 water signs, Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces, denoting the same thing. Now, Jupiter-Ketu,both spiritual planets, together, and that too in the 8th house, which is a moksha house, and in the sign of Scorpio, which is a moksha sign, is enough indication of why she is here and writing on spirituality. 12th lord, Jupiter conjunct Ketu in the 8th house is also a beautiful spiritual combination. Moon in the 9th house again a spiritual combination. Saturn, the yogi, in the 7th house of lust, is one of the best combinations to make her spiritual, I feel. 5th lord in the 5th house shows a mind inclined towards spirituality. Just see this now: the two personality indicators, Sun and Moon, are placed in the 5th and 9th houses (both spiritual house) respectively! Do we need a bigger proof of her interest in spirituality! And then, see the aspect of Saturn on her Moon, which will give her a detached mind, and that being connected to the 9th house of religion! Isn't this enough to make one spiritual!
Now look at her 5th lord, Sun in the rashi: it is exalted in the 9th house in the navamsha. The 9th lord Jupiter in the rashi becomes the 5th lord in the navamsha: this shows how the mind is focussed on spirituality. See the nakshatra Sun and Moon are placed in: both of them are placed in the nakshatra of Ketu!! The personality indicators are not only in the two houses of spirituality but are placed in the nakshatra of Ketu, which is the signifcator of moksha and is in the 8th house with the 12th lord Jupiter. Wow!!
Just a few more points from the navamsha: lagna lord Sun there exalted in the 9th house (a spiritual houses). Ketu in Pisces, the sign of moksha aspected by the 5th and 9th lords, Jupiter and Mars! If she is not spiritual, who else will be that!
Now coming to the planetary periods, she is running the period of Sun, the 5th lord in the 5th house, and very soon she will run the period of the Moon, placed in the 9th house. It clearly shows she will progress definitely in the spiritual path.
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In my opinion for a man to turn towards God , there must be a systematic failure of all houses connected with Material gains . Like the organs of a dying man shutting down one after the other . The 6th and 8th and the 12th houses need to be very very strong . Shani , Rahu and Ketu and Kuja should be super strong and malefic in intention , kicking a man in the stomach and pushing him to the ground every time he tries to stand. He must reach a stage where one day he will scream in agony and then say " God , enough , I have had enough . Now I want you . " . That is the start of the journey towards God . There is no other way . This is the only way . The seeds of Spirituality is planted in the soul when all the dross of the Material is burnt ( Dross is a mass of solid impurities floating on a molten metal . what remains after the impurities are removed is pure Metal . Be it gold or platinum .)
You will be amazed at the Raja yogas in the horoscope for materialistic gain . And as far as Shani Goes , dont be fooled by him . He is the 10th and the 11th lord who aspects the lagna . He is going to ensure that she does nothing but indulge in career and piling up wealth . Look at Rahu in the 2nd house . He is a greedy S.O.B. in the house of Shukra and exalted to boot . Let her tell me that she is not interested in her Career and Money , I will stop analysing horoscopes from today onwards . Let me reveal a secret to you . when the lagna lord is debilitated , the person will go to extraodinary lengths to be a success in life and prove to society that she is the best . All other factors being equal . She is going no where close to pure spirituality . Mark my words .
Best regard's
Through hard work and spiritual practices, a person gets honor and dignity. The lazy one who puts in no efforts is like a fool who allows salt to be spilled on the wounds of his misfortunes. The idler depending only on fate, achieves nothing. - K.N.Rao ji
I agree with you on what you said about why one turns to spirituality. It is a fact, I agree. But what is she doing here, Deepakji? A person who is not spiritual to some extent will never come here to discuss it. I know it because I know many materialistic people who gets surprised seeing that I am reading books on it, forget discussing it. So if she is materialistic, what is she doing here? Why is she wasting her time discussing a subject such as spirituality? A person who is busy with her luxuries will not bother to waste one minute on spirituality. I know of many people--they don't even want to hear a word about it, how much they may suffer. They are materialistic in the truest sense of the term.
About my analysis, maybe you don't agree with me. It's your wish. I am not saying that she doesn't have raja yogas, and I am not saying that you are wrong. I just shared my thoughts on the chart, shared my thoughts on what combinations make one spiritual, I feel.
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. Coming to using these charts - I would think it would be great to study these charts purely from an academic point of view, Isn't it?
I think my those sentence pinch you much more about why I m not writing you.I jst said frankly.Now I feel bad. 
. Infact I have just been told, I don't fit in here from my chart 
I am not able to see?
