Career Success comes with enemies for Leo Asc ?

[shilpa]

It is a remarkable coincidence that the Lords of the 3rd and 10th House for Leo Asc is the same Venus.

And if L10 is well placed / strong, you would expect the career to do well.

But since he is also the Lord of the 3rd and 3rd is the 6th from the 10th......it would imply that enemies/ hurdles / Obstacles signified by the 6th house will also get stronger.

So for Leo Ascendants in the Dasa/ AD of the 10th Lord if well placed....they should see rise in professional stature and succeses...but at the same time their success will come after jumping through hurdles and success will harbour enemies.

That's also an example of destiny component in a horoscope.

regards

[astroboy]

Good day to you Shilpa Ji,

Interesting observation . Leo or Simha lagna always encounters more enemies than usual . Why ? Parashara was no fool when he attributed the symbol of the lion to that part(120-150 deg ) of the Zodiac. The Lion is the only animal who inspite of being the king of the jungle, walking with majesty , will stop mid stride and takes a glance backwards . No body dares attack him , but yet he is aware that there are a dozen to plunge a claw in his back . we must understand this act esoterically . Simha lagna individuals have a inherent problem , The 6th lord happens to be his bitter enemy and the 8th lord Guru who is all Dharmic and logical does not gel well with the King who likes to act aristocratic and autocratic at times . Prof N.E. Muthuswamy in his book Encyclopaedia of Indian Astrology states " They have a tendency to fly into a rage suddenly and talk aloud, However their anger would quickly cool down . They are strong in criticizeing other people's faults and errors , they would never ever dream of anything below their status , even at their own cost and comfort and interest . Due to their tendency to take sudden decisions and thought less action they always end up having to face trouble . they have a tendency to act on the basis of the present without thinking of the future, this recklessness always puts them in trouble . Praise a Simha lagna individual and he will give you the earth , but god forbid if he does not like somebody . the Bias is forever . The problem in the work place ( 10th lord Shukra is a enemy ) is that they like to rule rather than be ruled . The best way to deal with a simha lagna is to tell him , " Boss , we will be in trouble if this is not done , and at this point of time .....only you can do it for us" . you can expect the job half done by the time you finish the sentence, on the contrary if you say this " this is your dead line , you better do it any which way . or you are in trouble " expect a file or a stapler to be thrown at you along with a shoe mark on your face . No way will a strong Simha lagna take such frack .


In my opinion , a Leo lagna will bide its time and prove itself . You would not like the arrogance he exhibits , this natural arrogance and confidence is the cause for the Leo lagna to have natural enemies . Remember after all both the 6th and the 8th lord have a soft side to them . Shani is after all Ravi's son , and Guru is Guru . No contest there . The leo Lagna always wins over .....it all depends on the placement of Kuja .

Best regard's

[shilpa]

Good day to you Shilpa Ji,

Interesting observation . Leo or Simha lagna always encounters more enemies than usual . Why ? Parashara was no fool when he attributed the symbol of the lion to that part(120-150 deg ) of the Zodiac. The Lion is the only animal who inspite of being the king of the jungle, walking with majesty , will stop mid stride and takes a glance backwards . No body dares attack him , but yet he is aware that there are a dozen to plunge a claw in his back . we must understand this act esoterically . S

Dear astroboy...that's very true.
many thousand years back Parasar appropriately chose names and symbols aligned with the personalities

imha lagna individuals have a inherent problem , The 6th lord happens to be his bitter enemy and the 8th lord Guru who is all Dharmic and logical does not gel well with the King who likes to act aristocratic and autocratic at times . Prof N.E. Muthuswamy in his book Encyclopaedia of Indian Astrology states " They have a tendency to fly into a rage suddenly and talk aloud, However their anger would quickly cool down . They are strong in criticizeing other people's faults and errors , they would never ever dream of anything below their status , even at their own cost and comfort and interest . Due to their tendency to take sudden decisions and thought less action they always end up having to face trouble . they have a tendency to act on the basis of the present without thinking of the future, this recklessness always puts them in trouble . Praise a Simha lagna individual and he will give you the earth , but god forbid if he does not like somebody . the Bias is forever . The problem in the work place ( 10th lord Shukra is a enemy ) is that they like to rule rather than be ruled . The best way to deal with a simha lagna is to tell him , " Boss , we will be in trouble if this is not done , and at this point of time .....only you can do it for us" . you can expect the job half done by the time you finish the sentence, on the contrary if you say this " this is your dead line , you better do it any which way . or you are in trouble " expect a file or a stapler to be thrown at you along with a shoe mark on your face . No way will a strong Simha lagna take such frack .


In my opinion , a Leo lagna will bide its time and prove itself . You would not like the arrogance he exhibits , this natural arrogance and confidence is the cause for the Leo lagna to have natural enemies . Remember after all both the 6th and the 8th lord have a soft side to them . Shani is after all Ravi's son , and Guru is Guru . No contest there . The leo Lagna always wins over .....it all depends on the placement of Kuja . Best regard's

very true.
two underlined bits if you could you explain more...I would appreciate.
why do you say guru does not gel well with Leo..... Jupiter is a friend of Sun in allmost all friend-enemy relations I have seen for planets !!
What do you mean by all depends on placement of Kuja?
Thx

[DHV]

Dear Astroboyji and Shilpaji

Interesting. I have leo Lagna in both rashi and navamsa. . And venus lord of my 10th and 3rd house is vargottama in the the 9th house for both charts.

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Astroboy, these phrases describe me perfectly; sorry I dont know how to do the quoting thing that you guys always do

[quote="astroboy"]They have a tendency to fly into a rage suddenly and talk aloud, However their anger would quickly cool down .[/quote] This is so me!

[quote="astroboy"]Due to their tendency to take sudden decisions and thought less action they always end up having to face trouble . they have a tendency to act on the basis of the present without thinking of the future, this recklessness always puts them in trouble .[/quote] I have landed myself in it quite a few times. I am actually timid but if something gets to me to that extent; I lose all sense of reasoning and will do and say anything!

[quote="astroboy"]The problem in the work place ( 10th lord Shukra is a enemy ) is that they like to rule rather than be ruled .[/quote] Who wouldn't . I hate all the rubbishy things that junior docs have to do!

[quote="astroboy"] they would never ever dream of anything below their status , even at their own cost and comfort and interest . [/quote] How true is this!

BUT

You also very correctly said [quote="astroboy"].it all depends on the placement of Kuja . [/quote]

This is true.

My problem is..Kuja is in the 8th house in Rashi, along with Lagna Lord Surya and Chandra. This is a really BAD placement. Zapped some of the fire out of me and completely drained my self confidence, though I have improved a bit now. So if I am pissed of at someone, though I seethe quietly inside, and think about it for days afterwards, I wont say much to their face. I wont criticise people, or say what I really think of them,I would keep it all inside. I get hurt and tearful very easily and I avoid any kind of confrontation. Not very Leo lagna like in that aspect.

Shilpaji

You are also right when you say;

[quote="shilpa"]they should see rise in professional stature and succeses...but at the same time their success will come after jumping through hurdles and success will harbour enemies.[/quote]

Not sure about enemies but I have definitely struggled and jumped through hoops at every step before achieving any success with anything.

Kind regards, and looking forward to reading more on this topic.
DHV

[astroboy]

A good day to you Shilpa ji,

Guru is indeed a Natural friend of Ravi true , But for Leo lagna, Guru's ownership of the dreaded 8th house gives him a temporal enemy status . Factor in the owner ship of the 5th house in the panchada friend ship chart and you have Guru acting Neutral at best .

There is a saying in Hindi "Raja Jogi Agni Jal kabhi na kijiye prit Are prit kiye to nibayie parashuramji kyonki unke ulti rit"
Lord dattatreya who was teaching Parashurama said " never befriend a King aYogi the fire or water , but if you do befriend them , then tend to that friendship very carefully because their natures can be very contrary .

The king can grant you land and wealth and sentence you to death in the next , Similarly A simha lagna individual should be dealt with carefully , for they can turn unpredictable like the King . (the Lion as we all know is the King of the jungle .Leo is the King of the Zodiac and so is the lord of simha lagna Ravi)

Guru give good councel and sound advice filled with Logic . Not many Kings like logic . History is filled with examples of the ridiculous extents some kings have gone too . This kind of behaviour is contrary to the nature of Guru , and thus Guru is forced to teach some hard lessons to The lagna .

But If Guru is placed well the extent of the temporary malefic effect is considerable reduced and Guru's wrath is not felt by the individual .


If Ravi is the King , then Kuja is his commander . The king never dirties his hands in a fight , He gets his commander to do it . No doubt , Kuja gets the exalted status of being the Yogakaraka for Simha Lagna , and its no doubt that Ravi becomes exalted in his Commanders house . The problem here is that Kuja gets the 4th house of "emotions " "mental peace" and "peace at home " .Kuja is hardly a peaceful man , and so his placement needs to be analysed closely . Remember Simha Lagna is a Agni Rashi , All factors being equal , they tend to loose their cool in a jiffy . If Kuja is placed badly , you never know what happens next .

Take the case of DHV , By her own admission she says , and I quote, " My problem is..Kuja is in the 8th house in Rashi, along with Lagna Lord Surya and Chandra. This is a really BAD placement. Zapped some of the fire out of me and completely drained my self confidence, though I have improved a bit now. So if I am pissed of at someone, though I seethe quietly inside, and think about it for days afterwards, I wont say much to their face. I wont criticise people, or say what I really think of them,I would keep it all inside. I get hurt and tearful very easily and I avoid any kind of confrontation. Not very Leo lagna like in that aspect.

look at what Kuja has done to her . The lagna wants to shred the other person and have them for dinner , But Kuja is not able to deliver that act . In a way its good . In these times there is no point in trashing some one . Diplomacy rules the roost . You can be diplomatic and stab all you want , but a direct criticism will result in you being unpopular for the rest of your life . No matter that the criticism was true . Kuja is in some control because he is in Guru's House . Had he been In makara , all hell would have broken lose .


A simha lagna has another problem . Ravi rules the soul , Let me tell you Shilpa ji , Your body can be hurt , your mind can be hurt , but when your soul is hurt , when the hurt touches the soul , the pain is unimaginable . you must have heard the song "Some broken hearts never mend". You can imagine a Leo Lagna's plight , First of all the lagna lord is the significator of the soul , then the 4th house lord is Kuja . Both have massive egos and will not know how to handle their problems . They simmer and hurt on the inside .


Trust this helped
Best regard's

[anuradha]

by astroboy » 260111

A good day to you Shilpa ji,

Guru is indeed a Natural friend of Ravi true , But for Leo lagna, Guru's ownership of the dreaded 8th house gives him a temporal enemy status . Factor in the owner ship of the 5th house in the panchada friend ship chart and you have Guru acting Neutral at best .

Deepakji, Agreed Jupiter is the 8L but due to the ownership of 5H , still gives auspicious results to Leo lagna people as per B.P.H.S. Jupiter is Rajguru not a Yogi. Jupiter i.e Rajguru always lives in the capital of a state, to be in the court of king. Regards anu

[anuradha]

Aseemji, Kindly see the exchange of 8L Jupiter and 10L Venus.Both are aspecting the 2H.10L is not only exalted but vargottama also. Nakshtra exchange of Sun and Jupiter as LL and 5L, a rajyoga.Yogakarka Mars is at exaltation point aspected by 5L Jupiter, a very powerful rajyoga. Mutual aspect of 9L and 7L a rajyoga at 6-12 axis.Exalted 10L in 8H and 8L in 10H in D-1 and 10L Moon with Rahu in D-9 is indicating, a job in U.S.A.Last year from June onwadrs he was under Jupiter Mars Mars , Since Jupiter is aspecting the 2H a dhan sthan,and Mars is aspecting the 9H another D.S, he made a lot of money. Mutual aspect of Mars and Saturn involving 6-12 axis in D-1 and repeating in D-9 showing the Russian girl. You can also reconfirm it with the help of Dwisaptatisama dasha and Char dasha. anu

[astroboy]

by anuradha » Wed Jan 26, 2011 9:08 am

by astroboy » 260111

A good day to you Shilpa ji,

Guru is indeed a Natural friend of Ravi true , But for Leo lagna, Guru's ownership of the dreaded 8th house gives him a temporal enemy status . Factor in the owner ship of the 5th house in the panchada friend ship chart and you have Guru acting Neutral at best .

Deepakji, Agreed Jupiter is the 8L but due to the ownership of 5H , still gives auspicious results to Leo lagna people as per B.P.H.S. Jupiter is Rajguru not a Yogi. Jupiter i.e Rajguru always lives in the capital of a state, to be in the court of king. Regards anu

Anuradha ji , Nowhere have I said that Guru gives inauspicious resluts all the time just because he owns the 8th house . I have already factored in the 5th house ownership at the onset .I have already mentioned that Guru will be neutral at his worst . But This depends on the strength of Guru and his placements. As far as the "Yogi", is concerned I made this comment ""Raja Jogi Agni Jal kabhi na kijiye prit Are prit kiye to nibayie parashuramji kyonki unke ulti rit" to emphasize the role of the "Raja" and not the "Yogi" . I am well aware that Guru is indeed the RajGuru .

My point is that sometimes even the RajGuru lands up in trouble due to the kings Impulsive nature . The Rajguru is then forced to teach the king a few lessons in a subtle way .


Best regard's

[milredr]

Dear astroboy,

U just described my husband except the loud bit....they are also extremely loyal

[anuradha]

Guru is indeed a Natural friend of Ravi true , But for Leo lagna, Guru's ownership of the dreaded 8th house gives him a temporal enemy status . Factor in the owner ship of the 5th house in the panchada friend ship chart and you have Guru acting Neutral at best .

There is a saying in Hindi "Raja Jogi Agni Jal kabhi na kijiye prit Are prit kiye to nibayie parashuramji kyonki unke ulti rit"
Lord dattatreya who was teaching Parashurama said " never befriend a King aYogi the fire or water , but if you do befriend them , then tend to that friendship very carefully because their natures can be very contrary .

Anuradha ji , Nowhere have I said that Guru gives inauspicious resluts all the time just because he owns the 8th house . I have already factored in the 5th house ownership at the onset .I have already mentioned that Guru will be neutral at his worst . But This depends on the strength of Guru and his placements. As far as the "Yogi", is concerned I made this comment ""Raja Jogi Agni Jal kabhi na kijiye prit Are prit kiye to nibayie parashuramji kyonki unke ulti rit" to emphasize the role of the "Raja" and not the "Yogi" . I am well aware that Guru is indeed the RajGuru

Deepakji, Please see what you have written. Hope you understand. Regards anu

[astroboy]

Good day to you Aseem ji,

by astroboy » Wed Jan 26, 2011 8:19 am
Had he been In makara , all hell would have broken lose .

by aseem82 » Wed Jan 26, 2011 10:11 am
He is very dynamic, always fighter, always on the move...We found it very difficult to take his wicket during our cricket days in childhood...

Note Guru's aspect on the 6th house and Kuja Aseem ji . That is what has given him some refinement , and a classy fighting spirit .


Best regards

[astroboy]

ok Anuradha ji , I am not going to get into a arguement with you . My fault for not being clear . I am extremely sorry .

[anuradha]

Career Success comes with enemies for Leo Asc ?
by astroboy » Tue Jan 25, 2011 7:20 pm

ok Anuradha ji , I am not going to get into a arguement with you . My fault for not being clear . I am extremely sorry .
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Deepakji, Thanks for understanding. Regards anu

[astroboy]

Aseem Ji , a very pertenent question to ask . I feel he will not cow down so easily because of the following reasons . 1. the 3rd lord is exalted , the 10th is exalted , there is a exalted planet in the 6th and the 11th aspects the lagna . All the Upachaya houses are placed well . He will fight any impediment come what may . Kuja's aspect on the lagna is another factor to note . This Kuja is not ordinary , he is in his own Nakshatra and is in his deep exaltation degree . Shani might clamp his style being the 12th lord , But our man will try and Shrug him off . Let me tell you this , Rahu in the 3rd , with the lord being Shukra is not good for anybody ...reason being that the desires are unlimited . Rahu is a greedy man , the 3rd is the house of desire and to top it , that 3rd house is Shukra's house . Unending desires , never ending urges . . Is he spiritual ?? I have my doubts . Even if he is , i doubt the quality and intention of that spirituality . Do you get what I am saying ??

Best regard's

[astroboy]

Good day to you all,

I want to offer my perspective on a malady which I feel has been plaguing astrologers for some time now . Before I start , I want to say " Please do not attack me or go for my throat after you read this post . I Am putting foward my observations to you all , I have made this observation based on my own limited experience over a period of time . I might be wrong , But all I am doing is putting foward my perspective on the issue . A healthy discusssion is always welcome .

Most people , Including my Guru stress on the notion that Guru is a "Atyanta Shubha " or extremely good planet . They extend this to say that he can never do any harm , and at best remain neutral . I have seen most astrologers time events (Good events / and redemption from troubles ) based on The transit of Guru over the natal chart . But in my observation , this method of prediction fails 90 pct of the time unless supported by other factors of favour .

Another alarming factor that is of concern to me is that a Lagna lord who owns a Dusthana is treated a benefic par excellence . to extend the malaise a trine lord who owns a Dustana is deemed as being a benefic (Leo Lagna, Guru owns 5th and 8th and he being a natural benefic . / Makara lagna, Budha is the lord of 6th and 9th , Kumbha lagna , Budha is the 5th and 8th lord / Karkataka lagna , Guru is the 6th and the 9th lord ) I choose to disagree with this . I say that In the case of Mesha , Vrishabha , Tula and Vrischika and Kumbha there is no way that we can say that Kuja and Shukra and Shani are going to ease on a beach chair and laze about drinking a Martini when it comes to handing out the effects of the Dusthana's they own . Remember this , The planets are like the finance ministry of India , They will send a claim notice even to a dead man . They are quick to take , reluctant and slow to give . Try claiming a refund from the I.T. department .


Similarly Leo lagna not getting the stick from Guru when the situation warrants it , is a pure pipe dream . There is not such thing that Guru is going to let you off the hook when it comes to the 8th house siginfications . At best , Guru might sit tight and do nothing thus failing you with the little element of luck when you need it . But he is not going to spare the Rod if he has to use it .


I am by no means vilifying Guru here , Nor am I taking my own horoscope into consideration . Its pure observation . I have asked many local astrologers as to why they rely on Guru so heavily , The answer is " That is the only Balm we have . what else do we say or use to send these people away in peace ? . If you have noticed , I do not give much weight to transits at all . I bet on the next AD to give better results . ) Ramlingam Raju is a classic case in Point . Guru took him out , Shani put him right back inside jail . No doubt Guru has good intentions , But if the situation is such that he has to kick your rose , he will do it at any cost . Its important to glance at the Panchada Friend ship chart because the role of the planet is defined there for that particular lagna .


Let me give you a example for leo lagna . I cannot paste the details here because I am bound by secrecy . A person started his business in Singapore, the man had a chronic heart problem which was threatening to finish him any time . As luck would have it , The man suffered a major heart failure while in Singapore . Fortunately for him , he landed in the best hospital , where he was operated upon and to cut the long story short , he was on his feet again in 3 months time . The doctors later told him how lucky he was , had they not intervened in time , he would suffered major brain damage and would have been affected for life . Guru Dasha Guru AD was on . Guru is in the 10th house of his horoscope . Did Guru stop from giving him the 8th house significations ( Chronic Illness , surgery and long term treatments )?? No . he gave it in full measure , but at the same time also gave him the crucial element of luck . Had he been in India at that time , he would have died on the way to the hospital or would have been left paralised for life . The fact that he was bed ridden for so long affected his business and put him in a cycle of chronic debt (8th house ) . point is , Guru gave both the houses significations in equal measure .

[anuradha]

but believes in doing good for others..

Aseemji, It means he is a spiritual man. anu

[shilpa]

A good day to you Shilpa ji,

Guru is indeed a Natural friend of Ravi true , But for Leo lagna, Guru's ownership of the dreaded 8th house gives him a temporal enemy status . Factor in the owner ship of the 5th house in the panchada friend ship chart and you have Guru acting Neutral at best .

There is a saying in Hindi "Raja Jogi Agni Jal kabhi na kijiye prit Are prit kiye to nibayie parashuramji kyonki unke ulti rit"
Lord dattatreya who was teaching Parashurama said " never befriend a King aYogi the fire or water , but if you do befriend them , then tend to that friendship very carefully because their natures can be very contrary .

The king can grant you land and wealth and sentence you to death in the next , Similarly A simha lagna individual should be dealt with carefully , for they can turn unpredictable like the King . (the Lion as we all know is the King of the jungle .Leo is the King of the Zodiac and so is the lord of simha lagna Ravi)

Guru give good councel and sound advice filled with Logic . Not many Kings like logic . History is filled with examples of the ridiculous extents some kings have gone too . This kind of behaviour is contrary to the nature of Guru , and thus Guru is forced to teach some hard lessons to The lagna .

But If Guru is placed well the extent of the temporary malefic effect is considerable reduced and Guru's wrath is not felt by the individual .


If Ravi is the King , then Kuja is his commander . The king never dirties his hands in a fight , He gets his commander to do it . No doubt , Kuja gets the exalted status of being the Yogakaraka for Simha Lagna , and its no doubt that Ravi becomes exalted in his Commanders house . The problem here is that Kuja gets the 4th house of "emotions " "mental peace" and "peace at home " .Kuja is hardly a peaceful man , and so his placement needs to be analysed closely . Remember Simha Lagna is a Agni Rashi , All factors being equal , they tend to loose their cool in a jiffy . If Kuja is placed badly , you never know what happens next .

Take the case of DHV , By her own admission she says , and I quote, " My problem is..Kuja is in the 8th house in Rashi, along with Lagna Lord Surya and Chandra. This is a really BAD placement. Zapped some of the fire out of me and completely drained my self confidence, though I have improved a bit now. So if I am pissed of at someone, though I seethe quietly inside, and think about it for days afterwards, I wont say much to their face. I wont criticise people, or say what I really think of them,I would keep it all inside. I get hurt and tearful very easily and I avoid any kind of confrontation. Not very Leo lagna like in that aspect.

look at what Kuja has done to her . The lagna wants to shred the other person and have them for dinner , But Kuja is not able to deliver that act . In a way its good . In these times there is no point in trashing some one . Diplomacy rules the roost . You can be diplomatic and stab all you want , but a direct criticism will result in you being unpopular for the rest of your life . No matter that the criticism was true . Kuja is in some control because he is in Guru's House . Had he been In makara , all hell would have broken lose .


A simha lagna has another problem . Ravi rules the soul , Let me tell you Shilpa ji , Your body can be hurt , your mind can be hurt , but when your soul is hurt , when the hurt touches the soul , the pain is unimaginable . you must have heard the song "Some broken hearts never mend". You can imagine a Leo Lagna's plight , First of all the lagna lord is the significator of the soul , then the 4th house lord is Kuja . Both have massive egos and will not know how to handle their problems . They simmer and hurt on the inside .


Trust this helped
Best regard's

Dear Astroboy,
Thank you...you have a good way of explaining.

You are right.....Ju is the 8th Lord for Leo...hence tainted a bit.
But through permament relations Ju is a friend of Su
and For Leo Asc. Ju is also the Lord of the 5th....the powerful house of fame/ fortune/ intellect.....and a trinal house on top of that.

Beyond this we would need to look at the individual placements of sun and Ju in the chart to determin how they are disposed to each other.
If Ju is 2nd, 3rd 4th 10th 11th or 12th...then they have undoubtedly a friendly relationship in that chart the 8th lord ship notwithstanding.

I also undertsand your POV on Kuja.
Mars thinks and acts like Sun...and hence they are comfortable in each others houses and hence exlated in Aries and Leo repexctively.

Therefore if they are innimically placed throuhg temporal relationship of placement from each other, that can cause a huge conflict of egoes at the planetary level...manifesting as chaos in the life of native.

regards

[shilpa]

Most people , Including my Guru stress on the notion that Guru is a "Atyanta Shubha " or extremely good planet . They extend this to say that he can never do any harm , and at best remain neutral . I have seen most astrologers time events (Good events / and redemption from troubles ) based on The transit of Guru over the natal chart . But in my observation , this method of prediction fails 90 pct of the time unless supported by other factors of favour .

Another alarming factor that is of concern to me is that a Lagna lord who owns a Dusthana is treated a benefic par excellence . to extend the malaise a trine lord who owns a Dustana is deemed as being a benefic (Leo Lagna, Guru owns 5th and 8th and he being a natural benefic . / Makara lagna, Budha is the lord of 6th and 9th , Kumbha lagna , Budha is the 5th and 8th lord / Karkataka lagna , Guru is the 6th and the 9th lord ) I choose to disagree with this

1)Well I have always been of the opinion that benefics can cause troubles if placed innimically or owning or lording over Dusthans......but they will not be devastatingly bad like the malefics.

2)And the converse is also true.....malefics if well placed...can yield a lot of positive benefits.
The categorization into malefic and benefics of planets is merely indicative of their natural tendencies and not a blanket categorization applying to all charts and all situations.

3) Actually most time there is something that I call mixed result......i.e in the Dasa of Jupiter for a Leo asc when Ju is placed in the 10th house forexample...he may see benefit s from the 5th house and 10th house significations and at the same time health issues like cholesterol Blood Pressure may crop up in the same phase.

real life and planest being lord of 2 diffrent hosues and most times sitting in a 3rd house are likely to give mixed results.

4) Finally Asc, always brings some psitive even if it is sitting in some Dustahn...even when tainted the Asc at worst brings mixed results IMO

regards

[sinecurve]

Aseemji, Kindly see the exchange of 8L Jupiter and 10L Venus.Both are aspecting the 2H.10L is not only exalted but vargottama also. Nakshtra exchange of Sun and Jupiter as LL and 5L, a rajyoga.Yogakarka Mars is at exaltation point aspected by 5L Jupiter, a very powerful rajyoga. Mutual aspect of 9L and 7L a rajyoga at 6-12 axis.Exalted 10L in 8H and 8L in 10H in D-1 and 10L Moon with Rahu in D-9 is indicating, a job in U.S.A.Last year from June onwadrs he was under Jupiter Mars Mars , Since Jupiter is aspecting the 2H a dhan sthan,and Mars is aspecting the 9H another D.S, he made a lot of money. Mutual aspect of Mars and Saturn involving 6-12 axis in D-1 and repeating in D-9 showing the Russian girl. You can also reconfirm it with the help of Dwisaptatisama dasha and Char dasha. anu

Yes anuji..excellent analysis ...He has been in USA for many years...after working in TOI india, he went to USA for further advance course at the age of maybe 27-28 ....Yes Lord Mars is the most beneficial planet for him and long with Lord Venus and Lord Jupiter and with Lord Sun aspecting his own lagna...He is very dynamic, always fighter, always on the move...We found it very difficult to take his wicket during our cricket days in childhood...

He married to a Russian girl after his parents were very worried about his bachelor status and his not wanting to marry...

Anuradha and Aseem, How do we justify his success, money and fame from D9 and D10 ??

He is running JU MD and his JU is debilitated in D9 and D10(LLand 10L). As per Aseem he minted money in JU-SU and JU-MO period....would we really predict it not knowing bfrhand about his success ?? SU is 11L placed in enemy sign in 8H in d9 and debilitated in 8H in d10. Agreed there is a VRY in d10 betn 6H and 8H but nothing to write home about.

MO is 10L placed in an enemy sign in close conjn with an enemy planet in d9 and its in 8H its marana karaks sthana in 8H in d10...agreed the the dispositor of both SU and MO is exalted in d9 but in 6H in its marana karaks sthana.

I mean we could obviously postmortem justifying his success, but would we really predict an excellent JU-SU and JU-MO period for him ?? MA I can agree but how do we prove his soaring success in JU-SU and JU-MO period.

Also, what planets signify journalism ??

thanks for your time.

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Dear astroboy,

U just described my husband except the loud bit....they are also extremely loyal

Who would dare to be unfaithful to Virgos....not even Leos !

On a serious note I agree that Leos tho overbearing make a loyal spouse. Cheating is below their standard.

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Hello Aseem, Excellent analysis on D1. My point is that we claim that your D9 has to support your D1 for net good result and his D9 more or less doesnt support his last 2 dashas (JU-SU and JU-MO). I agree that his D1 is good but what about the afflictions I mentioned in d9 and d10.

Suppose he is just another member seeking advice on this forum for his JU-SU and JU-MO period. Would you still predict the same(name fame money) considering his divisional charts ??

We say that d1 is the tree but d9 is the fruit.....however strong the tree is .....you only get to enjoy the fruit if d9 supports it.....isnt it ?

I just wish to understand of where am i going wrong analyzing his chart....since both MD and SD lords are not supporting his unmarred success.

[anuradha]

Kindly see the 10L with Rahu, in lagna of D-9, 5L Saturn in 3L showing that he is in communication business, Saturn in the rasi of Jupiter , praised in Utrakalaamrita moreover Dhanu is the kondal rasi. Lagna lord is exalted in 6H with 9L a rajyoga. Debilitation of 6L , 3Land 12L is a rajyoga, 6L in 12 is a vipreet rajyoga,Mutual aspect of 7L and LL and 7L and 9L are rajyogas. Mutual aspect of 5L and 2L and 9L and 2L are very strong dhan yoga. Sun the 11L is also aspecting the 2H, a dhan yoga. Now see the dasha pattern, Jupiter-Venus from August 2005, then Jupiter -Sun, Jupiter -Moon, Jupiter-Mars. It can be reconfirmed with the help of Dwisapatatisama dasha and Char dasha. Regards anu

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Kindly see the 10L with Rahu, in lagna of D-9, 5L Saturn in 3L showing that he is in communication business, Saturn in the rasi of Jupiter , praised in Utrakalaamrita moreover Dhanu is the kondal rasi. Lagna lord is exalted in 6H with 9L a rajyoga. Debilitation of 6L , 3Land 12L is a rajyoga, 6L in 12 is a vipreet rajyoga,Mutual aspect of 7L and LL and 7L and 9L are rajyogas. Mutual aspect of 5L and 2L and 9L and 2L are very strong dhan yoga. Sun the 11L is also aspecting the 2H, a dhan yoga. Now see the dasha pattern, Jupiter-Venus from August 2005, then Jupiter -Sun, Jupiter -Moon, Jupiter-Mars. It can be reconfirmed with the help of Dwisapatatisama dasha and Char dasha. Regards anu

Thanks Anuradha, I did notice all these raja yogas ....listed in JHora as well. If you look closely all these yogas are pretty afflicted being directly connected to Dusthanas. With the kind of success Aseem mentioned I m still not sure if I would predict it in JU-SU and JU-MO dasha. The planets should be in comfortable position themselves to bestow the raja yoga effect. Also, none of the planet has any exceptional strength.

thanks again !

[Nitin21]

Deepakji, Agreed Jupiter is the 8L but due to the ownership of 5H , still gives auspicious results to Leo lagna people as per B.P.H.S. Jupiter is Rajguru not a Yogi. Jupiter i.e Rajguru always lives in the capital of a state, to be in the court of king. Regards anu

I agree with this statement but it depends where He is placed...I am presenting a case study of my cousin who is famous journalist in USA, earned million dollars as bonus in last 3-4 years and even managed to win the heart of a Russian girl last year and got married....He always excelled in his studies...

8-mar-1977,
18:15pm
New delhi

Dear Aseem,

This chart is ruled by Venus. Look at its vargottama status and exalted. Vaisheshikamshas.. it is Simhasana. This alone takes care of entire chart.

Look at AL. It is in 10th house. AL Lord is exalted in 11th and exchange with 11th lord as well. No wonder millions are flowing.

Malefics are in 3 and 6th from AL and lagna both. So, by nature a total fighting spirit is assured.

Ketu in navamsa in 7th ensures a partner from different caste.

I feel jupiter in this chart is a secondary influence. Infact it may be curbing the more money that could have come, because it debiliates in navamsa. But Venus keeps the ball rolling.

From September 2011 onwards, you will have to take an appointment to talk to him or meet him.. And if you happen to meet him, you will get tired walking in his house. Better ride on a golf cart to reach from his mansion entry to his living room

Regards
Sonu

[shilpa]

Shilpaji I am just adding to your original post. I read an article on third house by Kashyap and he says the same thing about Aquarius lagna where Mars rules both the 3rd and 10th house. In this case third and tenth lord is not friendly to lagna lord that is Saturn. Even if Mars is exalted in the chart of this lagna, the person faces a lot of problems in his or her career. As you already mentioned that third house is sixth from tenth house, thereby indicating enemies of the profession. In this capacity, it indicates problems and struggles in professional life. According to him, third house is seventh from ninth house and seventh house from any house is considered to be a maraka bhaav for that particular bhava. Ninth house, also known as labhastana, is indicative of luck, religion, higher studies etc. Therefore, a strong third house would automatically create deficiency of good luck. A powerful third house comes at the cost of trouble in profession and finance. A strong third house lord indicates a command over language, communication skills and literally capabilities. A closer look at history shows that a large number of great writers have lived in poverty with a miserable life.
However I think it might be a general rule and may not be applicable to one and all having Leo or Aquarius lagna.
regards
Sunil

Dear Sunil,
Thx for pointing...i didn't realize it applies to Aquarius asc also.

The point is if the Lord of 3rd and 10th is well placed for example in it's house fo exaltaion...say in Leo for an Aq ascendant or in Pisces for a Leo Asc
And 3rd and 10th do not have any planets sitting in them.

Then the 3rd and 10th house are equally strong !
And in this case the person will rise professionally after facing and conquering enemies and hurdles.
I have seen this with two Leo Asc.

regards