`Lord Ayyappa Swami and Sookshma Vichaar

[P.Srinivas. Rao]

Lord Ayyappa Swami is also called as Harihara Putra, Sharangatha Rakshaka, Varapradayaka, Karunamayi, Aadi shakthi Putra , and Remover of Obstacles. Let us remember and pray him for few minutes and get his blessings.


Millions throught the world worship Ayyappa swami. This Harihara Putra is the Aaradya Daiva to them. His desciples worship him with bhakthi, shraddha. They pray him with descipline, cleanliness , bhakthi , shraddha and see other wemon as their own mothers and systers.


This Swamys abode is in Kerala State, a place called SHABARI MALA, a thick forest. a scenic beauty and above the Sacred river called PAMPA RIVER, where one can get rid off all his sins and shows the bhaktha to lead the life with maturity.


This Temple is having 18 Sacred steps. The importance of 18 steps is beautifully narrated in a grantha in malayalm called " MALAYALA BHAGAWATHI TANTRA SAARA ". Let us analyse the importance of these 18 noble steps


These 18 steps is none other than 18 ( ASHTA DASHA PURANAS ) Puranas scripted by great VYASA MUNI, 18 Shakthi Peetas of lord DEVi, 4 Yugas + 4 Vedas + Dsahavatharas.


1step------ Satya.
2nd-------- Justice
3rd--------- Dharma
4th--------- Karma
5th-------- Rakshana
6th-------- Bhoga Bhagya.
7th-------- Wordly Pleasures
8th-------- Sowbhagya
9th-------- Vidya
10th-------Akanda Jnana
11th-------Arogya
12th------- Ichha Shakthi
13th------- Kriya Shakthi
14th------- Jnana shakthi
15th------- Poorva Janma
16th------- Sakala Devatha Darshan
17th------ -Mummakshu, Kaivalya
18th--------MOKSHA , FEET OF SWAMI


18 steps means 18 chapters of SRI BHAGAWATH GEETHA.


so on remembering the 18 sacred steps and Swami, one would deffinetely achieve Parama Jnana, Iha-Para Sowkya (Earth and Heaven, living and non living , inside and out side ), can darshan him before his death and brings worthyness to his life in this world.


It is difficult to explain Lord Ayyappa and not in this janma. it will not be out of place to say whatever u say about Lord ayyappa is Less only . One may require several janmas to understand Lord ayyappa Swami.


A word " Ayyae "comes in Lalitha Sahasra Nama. The word Ayyae is none other than Ayyappa.He is Varaputhra of Chakra Devatha. He always resides in this SRI CHAKRA. He couriers his desciples pooja to LORD MA BHAGAWATHI.


In the Malayala Tantra Saara, it is said the word SHARANGATHA is very ,very important in AYYAPPAS POOJA If u surrender to ( leavind behind ur Ahankaar) lord Ayyappa, he will be more pleased and make ur all efforts successfull and victorious. That is why the bhakthas start the pray with --SWAMIYE SHARANAM AYYAPPA, SWAMI SHARANAM, AYYAPPA SHARANAM.


let me write some of the Mantras of Lord Ayyappa ( Taken from the above mentioned text )


1) Om Hreem Shreem Kleem Hreem Harihara Puthra Velayudaya, Maha shaastaya ,Chinthitha siddhi prada Chinthamaniye Swaha.


2) Om Aum Hreem Kleem Mohinisutha Hreem Shreem Kleem Hariharaathmaka Thejoviraja Draam Dreem Kleem Bloom Saha Sarvajana me Vashamaanaya Sarva karya Siddhi Pradatha Raksha Rakshatwa Maha sharanam Prapadye Swaha.


Dear members ,I request to post ur COMMENTS with out fail. Astrological part in the next chapter


To be continued----------

[kandhan]

Aiyappa devotion is on par with that of Murugan in South India. Devotees do 40 days of elaborate vrata before going to the temple on Makara Sankraanthi. He is also known as Saasthaa.

Raoji,

Could you throw some light on procedure for the mantras?

[P.Srinivas. Rao]

In continuation With:-

Om Am Hreem Krom Jaganmohanaya Im Hreem Shreem SarvamangalaPradatha Im Kleem Sow Sarvarishta Shamanaya Hreem Shreem Kleem sadyodana Udyoga Karya Vijaya siddhi Pradayatha Mama Sankalpa siddhim dehime Namaha.

A person chants daily 108 times of any one of the above stotra for 45 days , he will be blessed with a good education , good job , happy marriage, many mangal kaarya at home , courage , akanda jnana. On praying him many Rishis succeeded in their life and shown us the way how to lead.

Lord Ayyappas IRUMUDI things are altogether 16

1) Tarmaric--Gowri--Shiva--Chandra
2) Kumkum--Padma--Vishnu-- Chakra
3) Agarbatthi-- Shachi-- Indra--Guru
4)Karpoora--Medha--Hiranya Garbha--Budha
5) Vibhoothi--Savithri--Brahma--Ravi
6)Honey--Vijaya--Rudra--Shani
7) Beaten Rice --(powa) --Shanmukha--Ketu
Panner--Jaya--Shankara--Rahu
9)Rice with husk--Swadha--Varuna
10) Chilly--Swaha--Agni
11)Grapes-- Mathura-- Bhuvaneshwari
12) Cashewnuts-- Lokamatha Gayathri
13) Jaggery-- drathi-- Savithri
14) Dates-- Pushti--Sarswathi
15) Sandal Wood Paste-- Thusti-- Parvathi
16) Ghee-- Kuladevatha--Ishta Devatha at home

Ayyappa swamis mahima is endless, we shall bow our head and touch his feet and pray for his Divya Darshan


Let us come to Jyothisha:-

Lord Ayyappa is Lord Shanis Parivar Devatha Shani wont harm those who pray Lord Ayyappa.

Mithuna ,Tula, Kumba Lagna;_ If the Guru in 5th, Guru in shani nakshatra, and no one aspects Guru---then that person is the Devotee of Lord Ayyappa.

In the above case, if the Shani is aspected by Guru , then that person will show total, exteeme bhakthi to Lord Ayyappa.

Mithna , tula , Kumba are Vayu tatwa rashis . Shani is vayu tatwa karaka graha. Ayyappa is also Vayu priya . so Ayyappa Swami is always close to Lord Shani.

The following is taken from a book called Hindu astrology system and Jyothish Nigantu:-

Shani in Mesha and is in 5th--Person will do Apasmara devatharadana.

Shani is Vrischika and is in 5th-- Yakshini devatha upasana.

Shani in tula and in 5th-- Boothanath, Bairav, veerabhadra, aradhana

Shani in Mithuna and in 5th--- Vanadevatha aradhana

Shani in simha and in 5th--- Shaastha, Ayyappa Swami Aradhana and Kiraatha Moorthi aradhana.

Therefore, there is a relation to Jyothisha with Puranas, Devatha Poojas, Yanthra, Manthra, Tantra, Vastu Shastra, Shilpa Shastra ,Mantra Shastra.

One should learn all these from Guru, so that he can go do deep into the subject, learn more about its Moola Vichaar.

Like this hundreds of vuchaars is blended in jyothish. Many are still unknown.

Let us pray Ayyappa Swami, surrender to SHARANAGATHA RAKSHAKA and ask for his blessings in 2011.

Next issue i will write about --Mantra, Tantra ,Yantra.

VIDYAVANTHAM YASHASWANTHAM LAKSHMIVANTHAM JANAM KURU
ROOPAM DEHI JAYAM DEHI YASHODEHI DWISHOJAHII
( Durga SapthaShathi----Argala Stotram Chapter) Dear readers , every family should know this Great Mantra, next to Gayathri Mantra.


WISH ALL OUR FORUM MEMBERS A HAPPY NEW YEAR

[astroboy]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jE6yv8PlKqc


I bow down to the most powerful of them all . May he bless all of you with happiness and peace .

[P.Srinivas. Rao]

In continuation with

In this thread , i had written about what is the phala if Sani in 5th house is aspected by Guru.

There is a reason, why on this day i wrote about Ayyappa and poorva punya sthana. This perticular day i remember the most. My friend and well wisher who is a Roman Catholic visited lords shrine at Shabarimala after 55 days of Vratha last year (2009).

He has learnt astrology under my guidance.What made him to learn astrology , what was he in his poorva janma, why he is born in different religion in this janma, all these details i will write for the benefit of our members in near future. So that each member in our forum can analyse their own poorva janma and understand the Power of jyothisha.

This jyothisha is such , it says the past , the present and the future. where as, no other Shastra says these three.

The jyothisha is like a LAMP/ JYOTHI which shows u, ur road map and not to misguide.

As long as Soorya and Chandra is there , the jyothish will have its roots in this world.----believe me.

Nothing is impossible in jyothosha. if u believe, u have it in jyothisha, if u dont believe u are destined not to have.


let Lord SHARANAGATHA RAKSHAKA bless you all with lots of love and happiness.

I am happy that Lord Ayyappa gave me the strength to write always .


SHARANAM AYYAPPA , AYYAPPA SHARANAM, SWAMIYE SHARANAM AYYAPPA.

[Nitin21]

namashkar raoji,

Eagerly awaiting rest of the content. .

Regards
Sonu

[P.Srinivas. Rao]

Namashkaar , Namashkaar Sonuji-------yes i will come back

with regards

[arya]

thanx Raoji

[Nitin21]

Respected Sir - kindly allow me a small humble contribution for Arya's problem. I shall also await your remedy.

Dear Arya,

The chief deity for vayu tattwa is Shri bhartiRamana MukhyaPrana. So, i think first the elders must get Prana Pratishtha done to the murthy as the deity antargata bhartiramana antargata Shri laxmiVishnu. With this the saniddhi will be restored.

Then the offerings must be made to the deity via agni i.e. Homam along with Prayashchita sankalpa. Brahma Gayatri Purashcharane will reduce the wrath of the deity.

Subsequently, the elders must recite Shri Vishnu Panjar stotras regularly for all three sandhyas daily.

Rest i shall wait for Raoji's guidance and corrections.

Regards
Sonu

[P.Srinivas. Rao]

what would you suggest in such a scenario? it is not a very simple situation.....but can you tell me some simple remedies

which can be passed on to the elders of the family?

Dear Madam , U r asking me ?. . There is no comments from me . In fact u r asking with a wrong person. Any how i would like to ask u-------

U said in Deva Prashna , the moorthy refused to go back to the temple. Then how did the diety in temple now.?.

Ur ancestors might have done required rituals when the replica of the moorthy is kept at ur house. I have no doubt in it.

I do not understand ur word " nothing is done properly". I feel, after the prathishta of the diety in ur house , during the course of time ( as the time went on) routine pooja may not have done properly as required.

Since the Diety is now at the temple, there are many things to be considered-----!) when the Diety refused to go to the original place , then the temple authorities might have done required parihara both at ur place and temple. Is there any problem in the temple?. How many years over?. Whether the temple authorities have conducted Brahma Kalasha after Ashta Mangala Prashna recently. All these things are there to be taken into consideration . I cannot say off the coff.


U keralites are very famous in Agama Shastra ( Tantra Shastra) , what can i say madam.?.


I can only say, consult a good humble and well known Prashna Astrologer at ur house and ask all ur queries with him. He can only provide the solution. Madam dont compare the dosha with Naraynans dosha. It is quite different. There is a Pretha Stree Dosha which has come from his ancestrors. There is no pretha dosha in ur horoscope. What Mr Narayanan is telling is truth . He sees the Mohini in the Air might be true. See my astrlogical prediction how this Mohini comes to his dreams . but at the same time he should consult the doctor also.

Dear madam , i will help u with simple mantra, i will go through ur jataka and let u know afterwords. In the mean time please remind me coming Monday.

Thanx for asking the question with me


With Regards.


With Regards

[P.Srinivas. Rao]

Respected Sir - kindly allow me a small humble contribution for Arya's problem. I shall also await your remedy.

Dear Arya,

The chief deity for vayu tattwa is Shri bhartiRamana MukhyaPrana. So, i think first the elders must get Prana Pratishtha done to the murthy as the deity antargata bhartiramana antargata Shri laxmiVishnu. With this the saniddhi will be restored.

Then the offerings must be made to the deity via agni i.e. Homam along with Prayashchita sankalpa. Brahma Gayatri Purashcharane will reduce the wrath of the deity.

Subsequently, the elders must recite Shri Vishnu Panjar stotras regularly for all three sandhyas daily.

Rest i shall wait for Raoji's guidance and corrections.

Sir u are right . The point here is ---- temple authorities deffinetely made the required poojas , homas, pariharas before installing the diety in the temple .

Now the question is , whether they have done it properly ?.. That can be told only by the Prashna Astrologer . If not done properly ,the diety may give little problem both to the temple authorities as well as Aryas family. She says very clearly --many things has happened.

Sir in this case, there is NO SIMPLE OR EXHAUSTIVE PARIHARAS What is required, u have to do. For eg:- Eye cannot do the function of hands. In the same way there is set of rules for parihara which has been told and come from our ancestors and great Rishis , Saints. We people cannot change as per our convenience. Am I true Sir ?.

I dont think Arya have the great problems.

Go to the Temple daily and pray his blessings, all will be fine afterwords. Why i said go to the temple because---- poojas , punaskars are done systematically in temple but not in our house. In our house, females having mensus period is also staying in same roof, there may not be clenliness, required poojas, mantras etc etc . Please dont misunderstand that there is no use in praying God at home or useless. I said the Power of lord is more in Temple than in ur house.

With Regards

[Nitin21]

Respected Rao Sir:

You are spot on. Deva Prashna and Ashta Mangala Prashna has to be resorted to again. And they must have done required pariharas. I also agree that the home may not have all the saniddhi for the murthy.

Please forgive my mistakes.

The pariharas will be surely laid out in Shastras or Paramapara Pujaris and these have to be referred to. But sir, when the elders are facing the problem in the family due to all such pariharas not working out, then the pariharas have to be resorted to the Chief deity of the tatva IMO. Because all the other deities are their amshas. When the chief deity is not paid appropriate obeisance antargata the family deity such kind of problems arise. Sometimes, we may not see the ill effects as it maybe merely the case of Saniddhi not being restored. But in cases like Arya mentioned, their is a higher significance and demands Prayashchitta also.

I have assumed that problems related to ashuchi, reinstallation, transfer of the murthy from once place to another must have already been sorted out by pariharas. Now when the problem cannot be known it demands a solution that can meet purging of unknown sins. We usually chant Vishwamitra Gayatri as our obesiance to SuryaNarayana. In this case, there is a specific call and since Vayu tatwa and Brahmaji are in the same kaksha after Shri Narayana, Brahma Gayatri has to be resorted to for purging all unknown sins. Agni is the mouth through which oblations are given to the Deities. The second is through the mouth of the brahmins. Hence these two become mandatory after taking Brahma Gayatri purashcharane as a means for prayashchitta of unknown sins.

Still at this phase the prayashchitta is not complete. As the elders individually have been responsible for this problem due to which they are suffering. All such problems come in the category of making the 'brahman' unhappy and hence remedies for Brahma Hatya have to be undertaken by the elders in the family for themselves and also a sankalpa for younger ones and do on their behalf. The best and foremost remedy for this is "Shri Vishnu Panjar Stotra". This is a very powerful stotra that Lord Shiva chanted while fighting tripurasura to be successful. It purges all sins related to stri hatya, brahma hatya, etc and larger sins.

The grave problem that I have observed is that when amsha deities are given superior status to the chief deities, the ignorance leads to such issues. Eventually it has to be appropriate roopa/avatara of Narayana in the form of such deities that must be finally given obeisance. Only then such problems can be mitigated.

Regarding ashuchi with regards to home environment, usually the saniddhi is maintained by not going near the area during prohibited times. there are mantras that restore the shuchi within a given period of time if such mistake happens unknowingly.

Lord is Karunasagara. Any mistakes can be rectified via heartful resolve and appropriate prayashchittas as resorted in Shastras.

Sir once again please forgive my mistakes. I am only a beginner in this field. I am keen on learning more.

Many thanks for your guidance.

Regards
Sonu

[kandhan]

Raoji,

this thread is shaping up nicely. eagerly awaiting your post on your Jyotish Kumar.

i have a pending vow to visit Sabarimala. but in my present circumstance i cannot do the vrata(imagine wearing black dhoti and being bare foot in North Indian winter for a South Indian). wonder if i can visit without keeping vrata. anyone experienced in this?

[arya]

thanx Raoji and Sonu

[arya]

thanx Raoji

[astroboy]

Sad News at Shabrimala

Sabarimala tragedy kills over 100; scores injured
15 Jan 2011, 1009 hrs IST, AGENCIES

Tragedy struck the popular Sabarimala pilgrimage on Friday (January 14) with an estimated 102 people reported dead following an accident which resulted in a stampede, around 25km (by road) from the forest shrine in Kerala`s Pathanamthitta district. According to reports from the remote site, more than 100 people were injured. The mishap occurred at Uppupara, near Vandiperiyar.

Pathanamthitta SP Sanjay Kumar said the toll had touched over 100. But with the hilly terrain, nightfall and vehicle jam preventing anyone from reaching the spot, officials fear the casualties could be even higher.

The incident occurred a little after 8pm when pilgrims were on their way back after witnessing the Makara Jyoti ceremony. State Dewasom minister, Kadannappalli Ramachandran, quoting preliminary reports, said the tragic chain of events was triggered by a jeep that broke down on the way back from the temple.

As pilgrims tried to move the vehicle, it overturned, crushing a number of people in the process. More vehicles which were behind the jeep slipped and fell on pilgrims, resulting in a stampede.

Rahul Easwar, a member of the Sabarimala priest's family, however, attributed it to a collision between two buses carrying the pilgrims. ``The vehicles fell on the pilgrims, triggering panic and a stampeded,'' he said.

Home minister Kodiyeri Balakrishnan, said he would confirm what exactly happened only after hearing from his officers. "I've asked the DGP to rush to the scene. The home secretary is already in Pampa and I have asked the SPs and district collectors of Idukki and Pathanamthitta districts to help with rescue efforts,'' he said.

The Makaravilakku festival saw unprecedented rush this year. According to the Travancore Dewasom Board which administers the shrine, the number of pilgrims had registered a 20% rise this year.

Police said they had made arrangements for vehicles to use the route but the sheer number of pilgrims this year made crowd-control difficult.

On January 14, 1999, 53 persons, the majority of them from outside Kerala, had died in a stampede at the Pamba base camp caused by, among other things, the collapse of a hillock.

[roseyrose]

I sometimes wonder what game the good lord is playing ......it is so sad ..no body would think that they would be killed after visiting a temple.....undertaking such penances

[astroboy]

Rosey Rose , You are absolutely right . But there are two points to consider ..... It is said, It might be just folk lore for all you know ....,. That to die in a Punya Kshetra is considered good for the soul . There is another thought that people who do not follow the Due procedure and penence are bound to get killed . Now I dont know which is right and which is wrong . I just thought I would share it with you .

[kandhan]

Makaravialakku is the lamp lit in Ponambalamedu by temple authorities of the Shrine located in Ponamablamedu near Sabari Mala. But Makarjyothi is actally the star which is witnessed on Makara Sankranti(winter Solstice) at Sabarimala. What is the astrological significance of this?

[tripura]

Astroboy, I for one would not like to believe that the due procedure was not followed and so they were punished by the lord. in that case people would be scared to worship god at all. Nobodys pooja is ever perfect and free from mistakes in this transient world due to adulteration etc. Probably it is the former suggestion, maybe they were blessed to die in the holy place. But come to think of it there r so manyof these incidents happening in the pilgrimages, maybe the arangements r not up to date, they should have ambulances and doctors ready at all the times to deal with these incidents right away to minimize loss of life and injuries during these festivals.
May their souls be united with the Lord.
God Bless All.
Neena

[Narayan]

Dear Rao Sir:

"He sees the Mohini in the Air might be true. See my astrlogical prediction how this Mohini comes to his dreams . but at the same time he should consult the doctor also. "

I do not see anything in the air, but I can always hear the "padasara sounds" or otherwise called as bell sounds in the leg of a lady when it walks in the air. It is invisible. Nothing comes to my dream. Let be very clear about it. Now, I am able to see a pretha with thick black in vapor form with eyes etc clearly 24 x 7 unmoved sitting in a window. I have been seeing this for the last 3 years plus I am able to see other ghosts as well. Why i am able to see it? Lagna lord saturn is viewing 4th house and in that 4th house in Taurus is sitting GK, but lagna lord is also viewing 3rd house which is more strong, he is able to see divine mother which is more important.

Now, consulting the doctor wont solve the issue Raoji. It is not psychologic issue, but the thing is real, but I am used to it. I have absolutely no complaints as I am used to all kinds of sufferings in life. At this point, I have absolutely and absolutely nothing to loose.

Sir, you are always talking about pariharas. But, you are not recognizing one point very clearly, the end point which is Moksha. Can you guarantee a soul Moksha? Only Moksha can solve the issue permanently once and forever. All other pariharas are temporary. Now, this is not a human beings case. Let me tell you very clear about it. It is beyond any human beings perception or imagination. Nobody even wont be able to catch it as it is Maya Mohini. It has not shown me to my eyes in Mohini form yet.

Regards

Narayanan

[Narayan]

Dear Tripura:

If somebody's pooja and upasana has to be perfect, his horoscope should be having good 2nd, 4th, 5th, 9th, 10th, and 11th house. I mean all these houses should be having benefic planets with strong Guru. There will be people in this world, but they wont come outside in public, i mean who are doing real pujas with utmost devotion because their devotion is not connected to something in public or is not connected with something to give or take this with this outside world. Neither they do need any certificates nor any accomplishments from people.

Dear Kandhanji:

I heard long long long years itself through one of my friends. His neighbor was posted as a policeman at Sannidhanam. According to him, this is not a jyoti. Instead, the sannidhanam people is litting up a huge camphor at ponnambalamedu is what I came to know.

See be very clear about it. No jyoti will come and appear before lakhs of people, that too with no effort. If jyoti appears, the jyoti will give darshan to selected one or two at a time only and not to lakhs. Now, I have no idea or clue as to why these peoples are bend upon going to Sabarimala and harming themselves. They should in fact try to find the jyoti in themselves which does not disappear, come and go etc. In fact, people are not understanding that there are no forms. The forms are created by human beings for our first step as outside araadhana to transcend later into inside araadhana which is the real and everlasting worship. it is like a child has to go and study in LKG, UKG, then 1st standard, and then 2nd standard before entering into college and then going through degrees and then studying for engineering or whatever before they become professional. So, the same is with outside worship and the forms are created for that, but that forms are not true. It is an imaginary form. It has no validity.

Here one should not misunderstand that it does not mean that outside worship is not required. Outside worship is required at initial stage. As the worship and upasana goes on, one should know about the true and everlasting state and come to real worship.

For this real worship, one does not need to spend single paisa, you need not go to any pilgrim center, you need not go to a place like sabarimala and get jammed in crowds and harm urself etc, once u see it wont disappear at all, it is there at all times and everlasting. But still despite this, I wonder why people are always searching for that happiness outside under some ladder which is actually and really within one in the form of jyoti. Again, it has no form.

Be very clear about it. If you cant find within yourselves where you are right now, no matter you run wherever, you cant find it at some place or at some destination.

For example, I have seen with my eyes both Shiva jyoti and also devi jyoti with my eyes. They both have already shown me in jyoti form outside, but they have shown it only for me. They did not show me in any form as the form is unreal. If you have to see a jyoti, you have to put lots of efforts for several years, go through lots of pain, has to do lot of sacrifice to acheive that state.

Somebody asked Ramana Maharishi that if you see God what boon you will ask. Maharishi smiled and replied, I will ask "Don't come to appear and disappear"

Regards


Narayanan

[shridar]

Dear Mr. Srinivasa Rao,

Pranams.

Thanks for your information on Lord Ayyappa.

May I request more information about the following books you have mentioned in your post - MALAYALA BHAGAWATHI TANTRA SAARA and SHARANGATHA? Is there somewhere I can buy these books? Prefer English or Tamil editions.

I am also searching for the 18 Padi Devatas Dhyana and Moola Mantras and procedure to perform Padi Puja.

Any assistance wil be greatly appreciated.

Thanks and regards,
Shridar
http://www.makarajyothi.com/

[Sadhak]

I had mentioned a problem in this thread > viewtopic.php?f=11&t=34701&p=240184#p240184

Met a person who guides people in trouble and he recommended that I start worshipping Kartik Swamy. All the symptoms reduced/stopped and am feeling much better now. Just felt like sharing.