Egocombustknowledge
It seems to me that you have a personal vendetta against compatibility, the word " Not Recommeded " and also to a very large extent me . I have given you the meaning of the word "recommended " . I will give it to you again .It means "" {To advise or counsel ".} , ...........Not order, command or compel . You have been indulging in selective reading from the very start and then making statements based on half baked knowledge . Please go through what I have written about compatability and then pass your comments . Seems to me that you are hell bent on attacking me personally . If you think I am wrong, Then come up with some matter which can disprove what I have written . Or else please stop giving me advice . I know what words to use and what not to .
I again want to stress here that, That I do not hold a Gun , nor do I black mail anybody, and force them to seek my opinion . When a question is put on this forum seeking compatibility I assume the queriest is old enough to handle the situation if I say it is "not recommended" . I am just expressing my opinion based on what findings I arrive at . If the queriest thinks that he or she should discount my opinion , They are fully free to do so . The next time I say "Not recommended", I request you to disprove my findings and inject the queriest with what you think is the truth . I do not get any perverted pleasure in saying "Not recommended " To anyone . If you think I am getting a kick out of it , Then please disprove me using astrological principles .
Any person is free to seek any amount of advice from anybody at any point of time . In fact that is my advice to each and every body . "Seek as many opinions as possible " . I am not the be all and end all of astrology nor am i the be alland end all of Compatibility . I am basing my answers using sound astrological principles . If you want to prove me wrong , I suggest that you use the same . There is point in telling me what words to use and what not to . Prove me wrong .
You talk about remedies . Do you know of any remedies to make 2 people fall in love with each other , when one wants out ? You should stop baiting me , put your personal vendetta aside and give them some remedies if you know them. I think Sunsri and SShukla can use it now more than ever . In fact , why dont you suggest a remedy for all the people heading for divorce ?? Is it possible ?? Let me tell you , It is not . That is why there is something called as a Guna Milan system and Compatability tests , so that we can know before hand what you are heading for .
As for suggesting what is wrong , I enclose a half page report . I think you should read before you write . please see a sample compatibility report I have attached , Then read on this very thread , The meanings of the Pourthams and then decide .
I appreciate your humble suggestion , But I am going to stick to the words "Not recommended " . If the queriest does not like it then fine , He or she if free to discount it . I cannot see what is wrong with the Phrase " Not recomended " . At least I do not use the words "You are finished and are as good as a Dodo if you 2 get together " . I merely recommend , I do not pass a judgment and issue a order .
And suppose my report says "Marriage recommended " . Does it mean that the queriest will act upon my suggestion and marry him / her ??? . what should I write if the report is positive ?? Please enlighten me .
And if we left every thing to God, we would still have been in the stone age . There is a good saying " Tie your horse first , Then leave it to God " God has better things to do that Look after a horse who is not secured in the first place .
I hope I have made My self very very clear . Now please dont come here again and bait me . I do not want to get into a baseless argument with you . The next time I use the words " Not recommended " Please counter me and enlighten the others why it should be the other way around .
Thanks and best regard's
deepak .
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Through hard work and spiritual practices, a person gets honor and dignity. The lazy one who puts in no efforts is like a fool who allows salt to be spilled on the wounds of his misfortunes. The idler depending only on fate, achieves nothing. - K.N.Rao ji
egocombustknowledge,
I started a thread in the health section . The parents came to me in tears saying that there son has been diagnosed with Autism . I asked them to take a 2nd opinion , They said that they have taken 3 . I said " Take two more . " I personally called up some friends of mine who arranged for another two opinions. I went to the extent of talking to a dear freind of mine whose daughter , though a boderline genius , still shows signs of boder line Autism. I asked the mother to meet her so that they can form a support group. I showed then videos to convince them that boderline autism is not all that bad, got them in touch with therapists. All through this time they wanted me to see the childs horoscope . Believe me , That was the last thing I did . I ignored the horoscope till I had got them to visit the doctors and then the therapist .
So now tell me . Why would I go to the extent of doing all that ? I could have just opened the horoscope and dismissed them in 1 minute . It would have been no big deal . Do you know why I went through all that extra trouble ??? , because I believe in "Free will" .
And what remedies should I suggest to the parents ?? We know what autism is . Why trouble these parents further with all that extra burden . I told them the only remedy I can give you is for you people to be strong and calm , I have no remedy for your son. Then they said , " a astrologer asked them for 2 lacs for their son to be cured . " Look at what astrology has come to . And then you hound me because I use the words "Not recommended ." ........You must be kidding me .
I started a thread in the health section . The parents came to me in tears saying that there son has been diagnosed with Autism . I asked them to take a 2nd opinion , They said that they have taken 3 . I said " Take two more . " I personally called up some friends of mine who arranged for another two opinions. I went to the extent of talking to a dear freind of mine whose daughter , though a boderline genius , still shows signs of boder line Autism. I asked the mother to meet her so that they can form a support group. I showed then videos to convince them that boderline autism is not all that bad, got them in touch with therapists. All through this time they wanted me to see the childs horoscope . Believe me , That was the last thing I did . I ignored the horoscope till I had got them to visit the doctors and then the therapist .
So now tell me . Why would I go to the extent of doing all that ? I could have just opened the horoscope and dismissed them in 1 minute . It would have been no big deal . Do you know why I went through all that extra trouble ??? , because I believe in "Free will" .
And what remedies should I suggest to the parents ?? We know what autism is . Why trouble these parents further with all that extra burden . I told them the only remedy I can give you is for you people to be strong and calm , I have no remedy for your son. Then they said , " a astrologer asked them for 2 lacs for their son to be cured . " Look at what astrology has come to . And then you hound me because I use the words "Not recommended ." ........You must be kidding me .
Through hard work and spiritual practices, a person gets honor and dignity. The lazy one who puts in no efforts is like a fool who allows salt to be spilled on the wounds of his misfortunes. The idler depending only on fate, achieves nothing. - K.N.Rao ji
SunSri ji , From the looks of it , By the time Shani Dasha Shani Bukthi is over the boy will say "I have had enough " and think that it's best to stay single. There is a very strong yoga for extreme detachment in the horoscope . I feel it's activation will take place in Shani Dasha . As usual, Since the lagna is in the edge, I have analysed this from the moon and not lagna . I might be wrong too . So please dont take my words for the gospel truth .
Through hard work and spiritual practices, a person gets honor and dignity. The lazy one who puts in no efforts is like a fool who allows salt to be spilled on the wounds of his misfortunes. The idler depending only on fate, achieves nothing. - K.N.Rao ji
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egoCombustsKnowledge
Namaskar,astroboy wrote:Egocombustknowledge
It seems to me that you have a personal vendetta against compatibility, the word " Not Recommeded " and also to a very large extent me . I have given you the meaning of the word "recommended " . I will give it to you again .It means "" {To advise or counsel ".} , ...........Not order, command or compel . You have been indulging in selective reading from the very start and then making statements based on half baked knowledge . Please go through what I have written about compatability and then pass your comments . Seems to me that you are hell bent on attacking me personally
k .
I made astrological queries and suggestions.
U may agree or not, but all the above are off-topic b personal comments.
Specially calling someone ' half baked knowledge'
I request u to remove the above para.
Namaskar
Dear egoCombustsKnowledge,
Here is the proof that it does work, to a large extent:
"An Indian scholar, noticing the high degree of stability and harmony in marriages in India, began collecting case-histories of married couples. He managed to get 603 cases for study. The age-group selected was 30 to 40. All the people concerned were born between 1931-40 and married between 1955-60. The economic background was mostly rural and agricultural though 22% of the case-histories concerned people who derived their livelihood from commercial and industrial occupations. In most cases, the informants were males. It was found that divorces and separations were about 6% and deaths of husbands or wives 10%. The scholar's findings were that 47% was positive, 42% neutral and 11% negative. By positive he means very successful marriages. By neutral he means a fair degree of harmony in domestic lives. And by negative he means disharmonious family lives. His conclusion was that these figures proved the efficacy of astrology in marital settlements. The system of matrimonial matching of horoscopes, invariably resorted to by parents prior to the settling of marriages, ensures to a certain extent their stability and harmony."
The above quote is from B.V.Raman's book 'How to judge a Horoscope - Part II', Chapter - Concerning the VIIth House, pg 57.
Regarding 'time tested' - that any principle is given by any authoratative text and that same principle has been put to practice innumerable times through the ages is exactly what 'time tested' means. If you are unsure please consult the Oxford English Dictionary.
As regards to 'dangerous opinions, insensitivity and playing God', astroboy has answered hundreds of queries to the best of his abilities and has received written gratitude of the querant's in response. If a querant is confused or offended by the astrologer's answer it is specifically the prerogative for him or her to complain. Many queries mention specifically to hide nothing and give exactly what the astrologer thinks. In such cases there is nothing wrong in giving them the plain truth. After all forewarned is forearmed. Who is the astrologer to decide that a grown man or woman is to be mollycoddled and not to be given the plain truth? Everyone has his/her own logic in reaching a decision for a chart and his/her own style in expressing it. You have every right to follow your own style and so does astroboy. If anybody has to complain, let the querant complain, unsolicited advice is never welcome.
We all sincerely hope that this sort of unnecessary needling and confrontation would stop forthwith and we can go back to our astro discussions. If anybody has any contrary opinion let him/her back up her statement with relevant and adequate proof.
Regards
Swamykool
Laws in every country states that in the case of any accusation the onus of the proof lies with the accuser. You said that compatibility matching does not work, very well, please supply us with the proof and data if possible.namaskar astroboy-ji,
TIME TESTED procedures?
because they are written in scriptures for long time don't make them time tested.
Can you confirm ur recommednations are verifiable ? Don't mean 10 out of 10 times, but even 8 out of 10 times?
If you cannot you are making DANGEROUS statments.
Here is the proof that it does work, to a large extent:
"An Indian scholar, noticing the high degree of stability and harmony in marriages in India, began collecting case-histories of married couples. He managed to get 603 cases for study. The age-group selected was 30 to 40. All the people concerned were born between 1931-40 and married between 1955-60. The economic background was mostly rural and agricultural though 22% of the case-histories concerned people who derived their livelihood from commercial and industrial occupations. In most cases, the informants were males. It was found that divorces and separations were about 6% and deaths of husbands or wives 10%. The scholar's findings were that 47% was positive, 42% neutral and 11% negative. By positive he means very successful marriages. By neutral he means a fair degree of harmony in domestic lives. And by negative he means disharmonious family lives. His conclusion was that these figures proved the efficacy of astrology in marital settlements. The system of matrimonial matching of horoscopes, invariably resorted to by parents prior to the settling of marriages, ensures to a certain extent their stability and harmony."
The above quote is from B.V.Raman's book 'How to judge a Horoscope - Part II', Chapter - Concerning the VIIth House, pg 57.
Regarding 'time tested' - that any principle is given by any authoratative text and that same principle has been put to practice innumerable times through the ages is exactly what 'time tested' means. If you are unsure please consult the Oxford English Dictionary.
When people ask Astroboy or any other astrologer to match their charts, they specifically ask for the astrologer's opinion - as per astrological principles - regarding the proposed match. So, to recommend the match or not to recommend the match as per astrological principles, is the astrologer's job, to follow that recommendation or not to, is the querant's job and to decide the final outcome is God's job. I'm afraid you've got your priorities mixed up.By saying Not Recommended by astrologer is unethical and dangerous.
Saying not-recommended is only GODS JOB.
my humble suggestion, change ur approach, suggest what is wrong and what are remedies, recommended or not, leave it to god.
As regards to 'dangerous opinions, insensitivity and playing God', astroboy has answered hundreds of queries to the best of his abilities and has received written gratitude of the querant's in response. If a querant is confused or offended by the astrologer's answer it is specifically the prerogative for him or her to complain. Many queries mention specifically to hide nothing and give exactly what the astrologer thinks. In such cases there is nothing wrong in giving them the plain truth. After all forewarned is forearmed. Who is the astrologer to decide that a grown man or woman is to be mollycoddled and not to be given the plain truth? Everyone has his/her own logic in reaching a decision for a chart and his/her own style in expressing it. You have every right to follow your own style and so does astroboy. If anybody has to complain, let the querant complain, unsolicited advice is never welcome.
We all sincerely hope that this sort of unnecessary needling and confrontation would stop forthwith and we can go back to our astro discussions. If anybody has any contrary opinion let him/her back up her statement with relevant and adequate proof.
Regards
Swamykool
It's better to rule in hell than to serve in heaven.
Yes, Astroboy is doing excellent service to astrology and he has been writing very useful articles on Kala sarpa yoga and then about marriage matching and so on. These are articles which can in fact be saved by people learning astrology. Even though he is single and having had not a smooth love life, he has interest in others getting married and gives good advices. Any astrologer even taking huge fees would sometimes throw the 2 horocopes and say there is dosha, dont proceed. Contrarily sometimes by mistake or ignorance, astrologer taking money would also match two horoscopes which shd not be matched, Then life becomes hell. So when one asks question, he must be prepared to expect both type of answers,
See they are spending time analysing horoscopes for free, how many are doing that? If by chance, what he says materialises, would people be paying him or is he going to be accepting? See how many astrologers(not all) in the name of parihara ask thousands of rupees from the people who visit them. Some may be genuine and many are bogus too. So I personally feel, astrologers of this forum like Astrosonu, Astroboy, Ramanan and many others are only trying to help people and if they have to say everything is fine, horoscope is fine, matching is fine and so on, it may be sweet to hear but then if one proceeds and faces the music based on that, he may go to the extent of cursing the astrologer. So honest opinion, good and bad is always the one which is needed.
Also, some could feel the predictions are wrong but then they have not taken money. See some docters have given wrong medicines too and then people go to others and some teachers teach and students are not convinced, they go to new teachers. All that involves money but when money is not involved, it is easy to just get away from one who gives advice and say I am sorry, I am not convinced with your predictions. Anyway if money were involved, any of us would say, see that useless fellow took so much for pariharas and nothing worked, So when someone spends time for free on others horoscopes, we need to appreciate that and be thankful. Noone here knows anyone well and so there is no chance of enimity or hidden agenda for sure.
Dev
See they are spending time analysing horoscopes for free, how many are doing that? If by chance, what he says materialises, would people be paying him or is he going to be accepting? See how many astrologers(not all) in the name of parihara ask thousands of rupees from the people who visit them. Some may be genuine and many are bogus too. So I personally feel, astrologers of this forum like Astrosonu, Astroboy, Ramanan and many others are only trying to help people and if they have to say everything is fine, horoscope is fine, matching is fine and so on, it may be sweet to hear but then if one proceeds and faces the music based on that, he may go to the extent of cursing the astrologer. So honest opinion, good and bad is always the one which is needed.
Also, some could feel the predictions are wrong but then they have not taken money. See some docters have given wrong medicines too and then people go to others and some teachers teach and students are not convinced, they go to new teachers. All that involves money but when money is not involved, it is easy to just get away from one who gives advice and say I am sorry, I am not convinced with your predictions. Anyway if money were involved, any of us would say, see that useless fellow took so much for pariharas and nothing worked, So when someone spends time for free on others horoscopes, we need to appreciate that and be thankful. Noone here knows anyone well and so there is no chance of enimity or hidden agenda for sure.
Dev
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arya
Dear Swamykool and others,
let me add my 2 bits here as a receiver of very good advice ...........
The astrologers of this forum are very kind enough to devote their time and energy , free of cost, to suggest solutions ..which helps people in distress.....
The unnecessary meddling and confrontation has created some extreme bad experiences which has affected this forum powerfully........very good astrologers and other users have left this forum never to return back maybe......the atmosphere itself has changed,..the fun and humour and camaraderie which was earlier evident has almost disappeared.....
ECK (EgoCombustsKnowledge)...you had posted this .......
And to even say something like playing God and usage of remedies, have you, ECK, done any marriage compatibility readings in this forum till date? As per your info,you are 7 posts old in this forum and has just posted randomly across the board ......so what do we make of this behaviour of urs, ECK?
the astrological predictions and who answers what is not a numbers game...it is people's lives at stake here...deciding who to marry or not is not a small choice.......it is 2 lives and 2 families at stake here.....and an entire lifetime of sorrow or joy also....
so please do not post such things to drag the forum down again.....astrology is the science of gods .......please approach it with that mind and heart of purity and that level of committment.....
have a great day and weekend
thanks and regards,
Arya
That was a really great reply and I second you in your response..........As regards to 'dangerous opinions, insensitivity and playing God', astroboy has answered hundreds of queries to the best of his abilities and has received written gratitude of the querant's in response. If a querant is confused or offended by the astrologer's answer it is specifically the prerogative for him or her to complain. Many queries mention specifically to hide nothing and give exactly what the astrologer thinks. In such cases there is nothing wrong in giving them the plain truth. After all forewarned is forearmed. Who is the astrologer to decide that a grown man or woman is to be mollycoddled and not to be given the plain truth? Everyone has his/her own logic in reaching a decision for a chart and his/her own style in expressing it. You have every right to follow your own style and so does astroboy. If anybody has to complain, let the querant complain, unsolicited advice is never welcome.
We all sincerely hope that this sort of unnecessary needling and confrontation would stop forthwith and we can go back to our astro discussions. If anybody has any contrary opinion let him/her back up her statement with relevant and adequate proof.
let me add my 2 bits here as a receiver of very good advice ...........
The astrologers of this forum are very kind enough to devote their time and energy , free of cost, to suggest solutions ..which helps people in distress.....
The unnecessary meddling and confrontation has created some extreme bad experiences which has affected this forum powerfully........very good astrologers and other users have left this forum never to return back maybe......the atmosphere itself has changed,..the fun and humour and camaraderie which was earlier evident has almost disappeared.....
ECK (EgoCombustsKnowledge)...you had posted this .......
Coming to a vedic astrology forum and questionning scriptures is an intresting way to start life as an astrologer or as a querist..........the basis of astrology is these scriptures and it is the power and holistic nature of these basic scriptures that no body has given anything new to astrology after parasara and jaimini and others......so basically if you ,ECK are trying to prove that you are better and have invented something entirely new and radical...please feel free to share with us your gems based on solid proof and knowledge.....TIME TESTED procedures?
because they are written in scriptures for long time don't make them time tested.
And to even say something like playing God and usage of remedies, have you, ECK, done any marriage compatibility readings in this forum till date? As per your info,you are 7 posts old in this forum and has just posted randomly across the board ......so what do we make of this behaviour of urs, ECK?
the astrological predictions and who answers what is not a numbers game...it is people's lives at stake here...deciding who to marry or not is not a small choice.......it is 2 lives and 2 families at stake here.....and an entire lifetime of sorrow or joy also....
so please do not post such things to drag the forum down again.....astrology is the science of gods .......please approach it with that mind and heart of purity and that level of committment.....
have a great day and weekend
thanks and regards,
Arya
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egoCombustsKnowledge
another off-topic commentabracadabra wrote:isn't this what Shilpa ji says????off-topic b personal comments.
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egoCombustsKnowledge
namaskar swamy koo jiswamykool wrote:Dear egoCombustsKnowledge,
Laws in every country states that in the case of any accusation the onus of the proof lies with the accuser. You said that compatibility matching does not work, very well, please supply us with the proof and data if possible.namaskar astroboy-ji,
TIME TESTED procedures?
because they are written in scriptures for long time don't make them time tested.
Can you confirm ur recommednations are verifiable ? Don't mean 10 out of 10 times, but even 8 out of 10 times?
If you cannot you are making DANGEROUS statments.
Here is the proof that it does work, to a large extent:
"An Indian scholar, noticing the high degree of stability and harmony in marriages in India, began collecting case-histories of married couples. He managed to get 603 cases for study. The age-group selected was 30 to 40. All the people concerned were born between 1931-40 and married between 1955-60. The economic background was mostly rural and agricultural though 22% of the case-histories concerned people who derived their livelihood from commercial and industrial occupations. In most cases, the informants were males. It was found that divorces and separations were about 6% and deaths of husbands or wives 10%. The scholar's findings were that 47% was positive, 42% neutral and 11% negative. By positive he means very successful marriages. By neutral he means a fair degree of harmony in domestic lives. And by negative he means disharmonious family lives. His conclusion was that these figures proved the efficacy of astrology in marital settlements. The system of matrimonial matching of horoscopes, invariably resorted to by parents prior to the settling of marriages, ensures to a certain extent their stability and harmony."
The above quote is from B.V.Raman's book 'How to judge a Horoscope - Part II', Chapter - Concerning the VIIth House, pg 57.
Regarding 'time tested' - that any principle is given by any authoratative text and that same principle has been put to practice innumerable times through the ages is exactly what 'time tested' means. If you are unsure please consult the Oxford English Dictionary.
When people ask Astroboy or any other astrologer to match their charts, they specifically ask for the astrologer's opinion - as per astrological principles - regarding the proposed match. So, to recommend the match or not to recommend the match as per astrological principles, is the astrologer's job, to follow that recommendation or not to, is the querant's job and to decide the final outcome is God's job. I'm afraid you've got your priorities mixed up.By saying Not Recommended by astrologer is unethical and dangerous.
Saying not-recommended is only GODS JOB.
my humble suggestion, change ur approach, suggest what is wrong and what are remedies, recommended or not, leave it to god.
As regards to 'dangerous opinions, insensitivity and playing God', astroboy has answered hundreds of queries to the best of his abilities and has received written gratitude of the querant's in response. If a querant is confused or offended by the astrologer's answer it is specifically the prerogative for him or her to complain. Many queries mention specifically to hide nothing and give exactly what the astrologer thinks. In such cases there is nothing wrong in giving them the plain truth. After all forewarned is forearmed. Who is the astrologer to decide that a grown man or woman is to be mollycoddled and not to be given the plain truth? Everyone has his/her own logic in reaching a decision for a chart and his/her own style in expressing it. You have every right to follow your own style and so does astroboy. If anybody has to complain, let the querant complain, unsolicited advice is never welcome.
We all sincerely hope that this sort of unnecessary needling and confrontation would stop forthwith and we can go back to our astro discussions. If anybody has any contrary opinion let him/her back up her statement with relevant and adequate proof.
Regards
Swamykool
On aacusation etc--Sorry the onus is on those who claim it works to prove verifiably it works, before it can even be accused.
On 603 cases refreed where does it state they were all matched by astrologers, leave aside same astrologer for consistency sake?
On Time-tested, again sorry the person using the method should demonstrate it works verifiably over a period of time.
The only thing that counts is verifiable result. Because it is written in books doesn't mean anything. There are many astrological theories written in books.
If it is a verifiable technique, anyone please validaye compatibility of following man-woman
here is a man-woman, please validate if they are compatible or not
Man 8th-Aug, 1970, 7:51am, Lucknow
woman: Sep 16, 1976, 2:45am, Sultanpur, UP
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egoCombustsKnowledge
All astrologers on this forum have dual purposes, 1-helping othersDev wrote:Yes, Astroboy is doing excellent service to astrology and he has been writing very useful articles on Kala sarpa yoga and then about marriage matching and so on. These are articles which can in fact be saved by people learning astrology. Even though he is single and having had not a smooth love life, he has interest in others getting married and gives good advices. Any astrologer even taking huge fees would sometimes throw the 2 horocopes and say there is dosha, dont proceed. Contrarily sometimes by mistake or ignorance, astrologer taking money would also match two horoscopes which shd not be matched, Then life becomes hell. So when one asks question, he must be prepared to expect both type of answers,
See they are spending time analysing horoscopes for free, how many are doing that? If by chance, what he says materialises, would people be paying him or is he going to be accepting? See how many astrologers(not all) in the name of parihara ask thousands of rupees from the people who visit them. Some may be genuine and many are bogus too. So I personally feel, astrologers of this forum like Astrosonu, Astroboy, Ramanan and many others are only trying to help people and if they have to say everything is fine, horoscope is fine, matching is fine and so on, it may be sweet to here but then if one proceeds and faces the music based on that, he may go to the extent of cursing the astrologer. So honest opinion, good and bad is always the one which is needed.
Dev
and 2-at the same time getting free-real cases to test and enhance their learning skills, with no accounatbility for their even dangerous words
i don't know which one is the primary purpose.
namaskar
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egoCombustsKnowledge
@arya sorry most people are here for dual purposes, 1-to help others; 2- to learn from the several free-cases availble with zero accountability even for their dangerous words.The astrologers of this forum are very kind enough to devote their time and energy , free of cost, to suggest solutions ..which helps people in distress.....
It is a give-n-take forum, like all forums. Every one is giving and taking.
even those getting-"free" reading ;are GIVING their peronal life details for the astyrologers to practise their hands on for free
namaskar
Moon is also near the edge. appreciate your feedback as always.
[quote="astroboy"]SunSri ji , From the looks of it , By the time Shani Dasha Shani Bukthi is over the boy will say [i]"I have had enough "[/i] and think that it's best to stay single. There is a very strong yoga for extreme detachment in the horoscope . I feel it's activation will take place in Shani Dasha . As usual, Since the lagna is in the edge, I have analysed this from the moon and not lagna . I might be wrong too . So please dont take my words for the gospel truth .[/quote]
[quote="astroboy"]SunSri ji , From the looks of it , By the time Shani Dasha Shani Bukthi is over the boy will say [i]"I have had enough "[/i] and think that it's best to stay single. There is a very strong yoga for extreme detachment in the horoscope . I feel it's activation will take place in Shani Dasha . As usual, Since the lagna is in the edge, I have analysed this from the moon and not lagna . I might be wrong too . So please dont take my words for the gospel truth .[/quote]
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arya
Dear Astrologers of this forum,
One random person named egocombustsknowledge has quoted the following....
I request the moderators to ban this person and delete all the offensive posts that this person has posted till date...
It is indeed a very sad day when from a self regulating group of adults having a grown up conversation and discussion, matters degrade to such an extent that for each post, moderators need to be called in for....
regards,
Arya
One random person named egocombustsknowledge has quoted the following....
I request the moderators to ban this person and delete all the offensive posts that this person has posted till date...
It is indeed a very sad day when from a self regulating group of adults having a grown up conversation and discussion, matters degrade to such an extent that for each post, moderators need to be called in for....
regards,
Arya
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Dear egoCombustsknowledge,
Regarding accusations etc, the onus of proof lies with the accuser, under any law. If in doubt ask any good lawyer. Just asserting something over and over again does not make it correct.
Regards
Swamykool
Regarding accusations etc, the onus of proof lies with the accuser, under any law. If in doubt ask any good lawyer. Just asserting something over and over again does not make it correct.
Regarding the survey provided by Dr. B.V.Raman in his book. Who do you think matched their charts? The village grocer? As you well know, in a large survey the data is never collected by a single person or even a single team. A number of teams works on data collection. So yes the charts were matched by a number of astrologers. And BV Raman would not have quoted this survey in his book if he was not sure of the precesion of the parameters. Anybody can be doubted. Even Parashar can be doubted but to scoff off the assertion of stalwarts like BV Raman and K N Rao in such an off hand manner bespeaks of nothing but absolute genius. I bow to your luminous wisdom and shall argue no further.On 603 cases refreed where does it state they were all matched by astrologers, leave aside same astrologer for consistency sake?
Regards
Swamykool
It's better to rule in hell than to serve in heaven.
Aseem ji,
Excellent advice. As the shastras say - kutarke kalakshayah. The last thing we need is another 'war of aliases'. I've decided to follow your suggestion henceforth.
swamykool
Excellent advice. As the shastras say - kutarke kalakshayah. The last thing we need is another 'war of aliases'. I've decided to follow your suggestion henceforth.
swamykool
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It's better to rule in hell than to serve in heaven.
SunSri ji ,
, Interesting observation that the moon is at the edge and has just shifted to Gemini . It is not that I did not observe it . The degree is 00.04 . But unlike the Lagna the moon moves slower and so the time available before the Moon shifted is 7 minutes compared to 5 minutes for the lagna . I am just hedging my bets on these two minutes to make a observation . I might be completely wrong , Please for give me if it is so .
I never use the Bhava chart to make a analysis . But In your case I went to the Bhava chart and the results are interesting no matter how you chose the reference points for the Bhava chart ( Asc /Moon ) The planets are still in Gemini , and as a Added Bonus , the lagna moves to Gemini . Now this re - enforces my thoughts that there is indeed a good yoga for detachment and spirituality . Ketu and Shani with the Moon can produce wonderful results when they are together . However I might be wrong , so please take my analysis with a pinch of salt .
Best regards,
, Interesting observation that the moon is at the edge and has just shifted to Gemini . It is not that I did not observe it . The degree is 00.04 . But unlike the Lagna the moon moves slower and so the time available before the Moon shifted is 7 minutes compared to 5 minutes for the lagna . I am just hedging my bets on these two minutes to make a observation . I might be completely wrong , Please for give me if it is so . I never use the Bhava chart to make a analysis . But In your case I went to the Bhava chart and the results are interesting no matter how you chose the reference points for the Bhava chart ( Asc /Moon ) The planets are still in Gemini , and as a Added Bonus , the lagna moves to Gemini . Now this re - enforces my thoughts that there is indeed a good yoga for detachment and spirituality . Ketu and Shani with the Moon can produce wonderful results when they are together . However I might be wrong , so please take my analysis with a pinch of salt .
Best regards,
Through hard work and spiritual practices, a person gets honor and dignity. The lazy one who puts in no efforts is like a fool who allows salt to be spilled on the wounds of his misfortunes. The idler depending only on fate, achieves nothing. - K.N.Rao ji
astroboy ji,
it is quite a party if you take lagna also in Gemini.
i am pretty detached from material things and desire for them which often makes me an odd man out. this detachment increased big time starting in 2002 during the Jupiter/Ketu AD period.
how do you see her present Budh dasha/ketu antar dasha? any scope for common sense to win.
only time will tell.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fg73MRom ... re=related
thanks again
Sunsri
[quote="astroboy"]SunSri ji ,
[b] , Interesting observation that the moon is at the edge and has just shifted to Gemini . It is not that I did not observe it . The degree is 00.04 . But unlike the Lagna the moon moves slower and so the time available before the Moon shifted is 7 minutes compared to 5 minutes for the lagna . I am just hedging my bets on these two minutes to make a observation . I might be completely wrong , Please for give me if it is so .
I never use the Bhava chart to make a analysis . But In your case I went to the Bhava chart and the results are interesting no matter how you chose the reference points for the Bhava chart ( Asc /Moon ) The planets are still in Gemini , and as a Added Bonus , the lagna moves to Gemini . Now this re - enforces my thoughts that there is indeed a good yoga for detachment and spirituality . Ketu and Shani with the Moon can produce wonderful results when they are together . However I might be wrong , so please take my analysis with a pinch of salt .[/b]
Best regards,[/quote]
it is quite a party if you take lagna also in Gemini.
i am pretty detached from material things and desire for them which often makes me an odd man out. this detachment increased big time starting in 2002 during the Jupiter/Ketu AD period.
how do you see her present Budh dasha/ketu antar dasha? any scope for common sense to win.
only time will tell.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fg73MRom ... re=related
thanks again
Sunsri
[quote="astroboy"]SunSri ji ,
[b]
, Interesting observation that the moon is at the edge and has just shifted to Gemini . It is not that I did not observe it . The degree is 00.04 . But unlike the Lagna the moon moves slower and so the time available before the Moon shifted is 7 minutes compared to 5 minutes for the lagna . I am just hedging my bets on these two minutes to make a observation . I might be completely wrong , Please for give me if it is so . I never use the Bhava chart to make a analysis . But In your case I went to the Bhava chart and the results are interesting no matter how you chose the reference points for the Bhava chart ( Asc /Moon ) The planets are still in Gemini , and as a Added Bonus , the lagna moves to Gemini . Now this re - enforces my thoughts that there is indeed a good yoga for detachment and spirituality . Ketu and Shani with the Moon can produce wonderful results when they are together . However I might be wrong , so please take my analysis with a pinch of salt .[/b]
Best regards,[/quote]
Dear Readers,
The exercise of matching chart , is absolutely not reliable and has propagated more as a formality than necessity and it is causing more damage than any good to the prospective brides and grooms and to their families as,well. Those of you ,having understanding of the very basics of Astrology, may read the book -Your Stars And Married Life- a panorama' - published by Sagar Publications, 72, Ved mansion , Janpath, New Delhi.- 110001, Ph- 23,32, o648, 23,32, 82,45 This book sequentially deals with all matters related to marriage and married life and provides a deep insight in the Mangali , and Chart Matching matters.
The exercise of matching chart , is absolutely not reliable and has propagated more as a formality than necessity and it is causing more damage than any good to the prospective brides and grooms and to their families as,well. Those of you ,having understanding of the very basics of Astrology, may read the book -Your Stars And Married Life- a panorama' - published by Sagar Publications, 72, Ved mansion , Janpath, New Delhi.- 110001, Ph- 23,32, o648, 23,32, 82,45 This book sequentially deals with all matters related to marriage and married life and provides a deep insight in the Mangali , and Chart Matching matters.
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msrhprasad
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Good Day,
Arya ji,
Why moderators ban egoCombustsknowledge Ji, what is his mistake?
He arise one issue, have to clear it soft way. Don't attack ....I do not feel any mistake in his statements...I agree with him ....
I am not expert in Astrology, but interested in Astrology so keenly observing conversions among the members.
See Mr.Arya, the forum for sharing views,ideas and knowledge not for Ban / Ignore some one..
If Moderators started ignoring Learned Members finally No one will be in the forum i.e Learned Members...
Already This forum lost Learned Members one example is Sri.M.S.S.Sharma Ji...
Reg.This I have already sent message to Mr.V.Paul Ji, few days ago, if moderators do not want Learned Members that is their wish.
God is great...
Sincerely,
prasad
Arya ji,
Why moderators ban egoCombustsknowledge Ji, what is his mistake?
He arise one issue, have to clear it soft way. Don't attack ....I do not feel any mistake in his statements...I agree with him ....
I am not expert in Astrology, but interested in Astrology so keenly observing conversions among the members.
See Mr.Arya, the forum for sharing views,ideas and knowledge not for Ban / Ignore some one..
If Moderators started ignoring Learned Members finally No one will be in the forum i.e Learned Members...
Already This forum lost Learned Members one example is Sri.M.S.S.Sharma Ji...
Reg.This I have already sent message to Mr.V.Paul Ji, few days ago, if moderators do not want Learned Members that is their wish.
God is great...
Sincerely,
prasad
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msrhprasad
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- Joined: 21 Oct 2009
Good Day,
Dear Mr.Astro Boy Ji.
No doubt you are doing really excellent job, but one thing I should intimate you and others.
Other members started attack / hurting with meaning less words, if some one question you...on some specific topic...finally such Member leaving the forum..
Do you feel really this is the correct way...?
This is not only my opinion, few other members are also having the same...
Astrology is ocean, No one is not expert / Master in this, so always we have to allow others views, some times may be we hurt, but gaining knowledge we have to continue it...
Truth comes only when it questioned? other wise dark will be established as a truth...
Note: Astro Boy Ji,few members feels that if some one question Astroy Boy Ji, then Immediately others start attack / counter...this finally gives some negative opinion on Astro Boy Ji..
I hope you take it my views in constructive way...
I have expressed what I feel...
Sincerely,
prasad
Dear Mr.Astro Boy Ji.
No doubt you are doing really excellent job, but one thing I should intimate you and others.
Other members started attack / hurting with meaning less words, if some one question you...on some specific topic...finally such Member leaving the forum..
Do you feel really this is the correct way...?
This is not only my opinion, few other members are also having the same...
Astrology is ocean, No one is not expert / Master in this, so always we have to allow others views, some times may be we hurt, but gaining knowledge we have to continue it...
Truth comes only when it questioned? other wise dark will be established as a truth...
Note: Astro Boy Ji,few members feels that if some one question Astroy Boy Ji, then Immediately others start attack / counter...this finally gives some negative opinion on Astro Boy Ji..
I hope you take it my views in constructive way...
I have expressed what I feel...
Sincerely,
prasad
Prasad Ji,
I understand your sentiment . I myself left this place till I was convinced to come back . In MSShrama 'ji's case , I was really upset when he left . Let me tell you , A discussion can go on when there is a equal donation of astrological dictums and texts on this forum . You cannot hold strong views and try to trample other people's opinion .
Now In my case, I have just highlighted the importance of compatability . I have not asked anybody to come to me for a compatability test , Nor have I asked somebody to send me a PM , Nor have I asked for money , Nor have I promised a remedy . It is completely up to the reader to decide if he or she wants to take the test or not .
As far as Arya ji is concerned, What has he said wrong ?? How much has Ego combust Knowledge contributed in the way of astrological knowledge ??? All ECK has been doing is telling me what words to use . I know what words to use and I dont need anybodies advice . Let them prove me wrong with astrological dictums . Simple as that .
You said you agreed with ECK . on what point have you agreed with him ? That compatability is wrong , or that I should substitute the words " not recommended "
Best regard's
I understand your sentiment . I myself left this place till I was convinced to come back . In MSShrama 'ji's case , I was really upset when he left . Let me tell you , A discussion can go on when there is a equal donation of astrological dictums and texts on this forum . You cannot hold strong views and try to trample other people's opinion .
Now In my case, I have just highlighted the importance of compatability . I have not asked anybody to come to me for a compatability test , Nor have I asked somebody to send me a PM , Nor have I asked for money , Nor have I promised a remedy . It is completely up to the reader to decide if he or she wants to take the test or not .
As far as Arya ji is concerned, What has he said wrong ?? How much has Ego combust Knowledge contributed in the way of astrological knowledge ??? All ECK has been doing is telling me what words to use . I know what words to use and I dont need anybodies advice . Let them prove me wrong with astrological dictums . Simple as that .
You said you agreed with ECK . on what point have you agreed with him ? That compatability is wrong , or that I should substitute the words " not recommended "
Best regard's
Through hard work and spiritual practices, a person gets honor and dignity. The lazy one who puts in no efforts is like a fool who allows salt to be spilled on the wounds of his misfortunes. The idler depending only on fate, achieves nothing. - K.N.Rao ji
ECK , You have asked for a compatability match . I have enclosed it below . Now I know that either ways you will prove me wrong because only you know the current status of the couple, You are dead against me for reasons best known to you and finally , You hold a dim view of compatability tests . As per me , This is not a good match . You are free to arrive at any conclusion you want .
Compatibility between Birth Stars
Rasi - Not satisfactory
Rasyadhipathi - Good
Vasya - Not satisfactory
Mahendra - Not satisfactory
Gana - Satisfactory
Yoni - Satisfactory
Dina - Good
Deergha - Satisfactory
Dosha (Absence of Dosha is counted as compatibility)
Rajju No Dosha
Veda No Dosha
There is SATISFACTORY match between the birth stars (MADHYAMAM).
Star Match Rating =50%
Papa Points Girl :
From Lagna From Chandra From Sukra
Position Papam Position Papam Position Papam
Mars 3 0 5 0 1 1
Saturn 1 1 3 0 11 0
Sun 2 1 4 1 12 1
Rahu 4 1 6 0 2 1
Ketu 10 0 12 1 8 1
Total 3 2 4
Papa Points Boy :
From Lagna From Chandra From Sukra
Position Papam Position Papam Position Papam
Mars 12 1 11 0 11 0
Saturn 9 0 8 1 8 1
Sun 12 1 11 0 11 0
Rahu 7 1 6 0 6 0
Ketu 1 1 12 1 12 1
Total 4 2 2
Summary
Check Result Remarks
Compatibility between Birth Stars Satisfactory Kerala System Applied
Kuja dosha comparison Satisfactory Serious check enabled
Papasamya Good Equal Point - Equal Weightage(1-1-1)
Dasa-Sandhi check Satisfactory Serious check enabled
Yoni Porutham Satisfactory Serious check enabled
Matching is Not recommended
Compatibility between Birth Stars
Rasi - Not satisfactory
Rasyadhipathi - Good
Vasya - Not satisfactory
Mahendra - Not satisfactory
Gana - Satisfactory
Yoni - Satisfactory
Dina - Good
Deergha - Satisfactory
Dosha (Absence of Dosha is counted as compatibility)
Rajju No Dosha
Veda No Dosha
There is SATISFACTORY match between the birth stars (MADHYAMAM).
Star Match Rating =50%
Papa Points Girl :
From Lagna From Chandra From Sukra
Position Papam Position Papam Position Papam
Mars 3 0 5 0 1 1
Saturn 1 1 3 0 11 0
Sun 2 1 4 1 12 1
Rahu 4 1 6 0 2 1
Ketu 10 0 12 1 8 1
Total 3 2 4
Papa Points Boy :
From Lagna From Chandra From Sukra
Position Papam Position Papam Position Papam
Mars 12 1 11 0 11 0
Saturn 9 0 8 1 8 1
Sun 12 1 11 0 11 0
Rahu 7 1 6 0 6 0
Ketu 1 1 12 1 12 1
Total 4 2 2
Summary
Check Result Remarks
Compatibility between Birth Stars Satisfactory Kerala System Applied
Kuja dosha comparison Satisfactory Serious check enabled
Papasamya Good Equal Point - Equal Weightage(1-1-1)
Dasa-Sandhi check Satisfactory Serious check enabled
Yoni Porutham Satisfactory Serious check enabled
Matching is Not recommended
Through hard work and spiritual practices, a person gets honor and dignity. The lazy one who puts in no efforts is like a fool who allows salt to be spilled on the wounds of his misfortunes. The idler depending only on fate, achieves nothing. - K.N.Rao ji
