The 12th house deals with punishment(saturn), long journeys(Venus), Misfortune or bad habits(Rahu), Bed Pleasure(Venus), Sleep(Moon), Medidation(Ketu), Donation(Jupiter), Secret Enemies(Rahu), Heaven (Jupiter), Left Eye(Moon and for eyesight(venus), Expenditure(Saturn)
Pleasure of the bed or denial of the same is due to seperation or divorce which can be studied from the 12th house. This would apply specially to Venus as the significator of marraige. When venus become the lord of the 6th or 12th and is placed in the 12th house this cause VRY and would lead to loss of the spouse. Argala of planet/rasi would be there on the 2nd (house) and the same is obsctructed by the 12th house(fasting) any person passing through a troubled married life should fast on the day ruled by the lord of the Upapada
12th is a secret house and if the 10th lord is associated with this house it can show work related to secret socities(Ketu) and Spying (rahu), counter spying(ketu) If no nodes are involved then the travel would involve related to employment(10th House). Venus should be strong to show foreign settlement.
7,9,12 have a vital say in the foreign affairs and residence with the latter being the deciding factor. 4,8 are the trines to the 12th house and influence the native to take decision to go abroad.
Malefics in the 4th house would disturb the domestic harmony of the native and 8th house would show travel for medical treatment. 7th is equally important for foreign travel along with jala Patana sahamam and Paradesa Sahamam. If the lagna lord is in the Lagna and the Vyayaamsa the naitve travels within the country and to a foreign land
The lagna indicate whether the person accepts what the 12th house indicates or whether he would reject it. If malefic planets are placed in the 7th or 12th from AL person would reject the spiritualism. Moon in the 12th from AL would destroy the Raja Yoga and the same placement from lagna would destroy his demostic affairs.
12th house indicate losses. if the Sun is placed in the 12th from AL it would indicate death of father and also losses from father, same with Moon. Planets placed in the 5th house would openly support the native where planets in the 12th would have secret enemity with the native. The same can be checked from AL. if there are planets in the 7th or 12th from UL such person would become enemy of the person after their marraige or obstruct the marraige from happening.
12th lord Placed in the 12th house along with a dusthana lord would give VRY.7th Lord in the 12th house would indicate the spouse from a poor family. The badhakesa placed in the 12th house would give excellent results. The badhakesa dasa would bring joy and propserity to the native
Malefics in the 12th house would deprive the native of sleep.
regards
12th house
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aliens19672004
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hi alien
thanks on the article.. i had a few questions.. You talked abt malefic in 4th house taking a native abroad. What if there are no planets in the 4th house.. And as u said Venus needs to be strong for foreign settlement.. In this case,should Venus have a relationship with the 12th house for foreign settlement to take place...Logically,if that is the case then Venus has to be placed either in the 12th or 6th (aspect to 12th) ..What if Venus is in houses other than the 6th or 12th and strong and not receiving any malefic aspects in the chart
Do we need to take the aspects on the 7th,9th and 12th house in consideration in addition to the planets placed in thouse houses
thanks
thanks on the article.. i had a few questions.. You talked abt malefic in 4th house taking a native abroad. What if there are no planets in the 4th house.. And as u said Venus needs to be strong for foreign settlement.. In this case,should Venus have a relationship with the 12th house for foreign settlement to take place...Logically,if that is the case then Venus has to be placed either in the 12th or 6th (aspect to 12th) ..What if Venus is in houses other than the 6th or 12th and strong and not receiving any malefic aspects in the chart
Do we need to take the aspects on the 7th,9th and 12th house in consideration in addition to the planets placed in thouse houses
thanks
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aliens19672004
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Hi
Other factors are to be considered when there are no malefics in the 4th house. If a person has got a malefic in the the lagna or the lagna is between Papa Grahas. A malefic planet placed in the lagna is like a bad planet sitting on our head and if there is a malefic planet in the 4th house then the domestic life would be not good and such person invariably thinks of leaving his country for good.
As far my knowledge goes I am of the opinion that if planets are also lording the house of foreign stay and during their dasas or antaras if they aspect the house and at the same time they are placed in the 12th house then such circumstances would lead the native to leave the country.
Venus is the karaka for travelling and if they are not part of the 6,12 house then there is no Vipareeta Raja Yoga and in this situation other factor are to be considered.
Hope it is fine
regards
Other factors are to be considered when there are no malefics in the 4th house. If a person has got a malefic in the the lagna or the lagna is between Papa Grahas. A malefic planet placed in the lagna is like a bad planet sitting on our head and if there is a malefic planet in the 4th house then the domestic life would be not good and such person invariably thinks of leaving his country for good.
As far my knowledge goes I am of the opinion that if planets are also lording the house of foreign stay and during their dasas or antaras if they aspect the house and at the same time they are placed in the 12th house then such circumstances would lead the native to leave the country.
Venus is the karaka for travelling and if they are not part of the 6,12 house then there is no Vipareeta Raja Yoga and in this situation other factor are to be considered.
Hope it is fine
regards
Uma shanker achanta
dear siraliens19672004 wrote: This would apply specially to Venus as the significator of marraige. When venus become the lord of the 6th or 12th and is placed in the 12th house this cause VRY and would lead to loss of the spouse.
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in the above case ,is it 6th or 12th OR 6th and 12th?Bcoz what happend for MIDHUNA LAGNA people ,if VENUS is in 12th house?if in this case also will it happen as u said ,then is there any exemptions?or any other factors to not lose spouse?
seeking ur reply
thanking you sir
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desyno1
Greetings aliens!
You are right about 12th lord Venus being in 12th house, which i Have, I did separate from my 1st spouse which finally ended for good. And yes I am settled in USA since '91
What are my chances of getting married 2nd time. I do get proposals, but either some times i back out or the girl's side back outs and if none of those happen, some other obstacle delays my 2nd marriage from happening.
Could you give me some output for my 2nd marriage, if you be so kind.
Also I would like to know what my AK is , is it VENUS or is it RAHU ji ??
Thanks for your time.
You are right about 12th lord Venus being in 12th house, which i Have, I did separate from my 1st spouse which finally ended for good. And yes I am settled in USA since '91
What are my chances of getting married 2nd time. I do get proposals, but either some times i back out or the girl's side back outs and if none of those happen, some other obstacle delays my 2nd marriage from happening.
Could you give me some output for my 2nd marriage, if you be so kind.
Also I would like to know what my AK is , is it VENUS or is it RAHU ji ??
Thanks for your time.
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aliens19672004
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Hello Mr Desyno1
As you said your 12th house has got Venus which is also the lord of the 7th house and it is conjoined the Lord of the 10th Sun. Hence the purpose of visiting the house would be for the employment only.
I do not if I am right or wrong the saturn antara should have created problems for you and resulting in seperation. It was from 12.05.2001-22.06.2002. Saturn is aspecting your 7th from lagna and also it is aspecting Venus and Sun.
In your d-9 your 9th lord Mars is placed with Saturn which is the Lord of the 6th and 7th house. Saturn is the dire enemy of Mars.
From the 1st UL the 2nd UL would give the 2nd Marraige which in your case it is coming to Acquarius rasi and in the d-1 Narayana dasa the Kumbha antara is staring from 03.11.2014-03.11.2015. The antara is being aspecting by the dasa rasi Libra which would give the marriage during the periods mentioned.
Hope this is fine
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Uma shanker achanta
As you said your 12th house has got Venus which is also the lord of the 7th house and it is conjoined the Lord of the 10th Sun. Hence the purpose of visiting the house would be for the employment only.
I do not if I am right or wrong the saturn antara should have created problems for you and resulting in seperation. It was from 12.05.2001-22.06.2002. Saturn is aspecting your 7th from lagna and also it is aspecting Venus and Sun.
In your d-9 your 9th lord Mars is placed with Saturn which is the Lord of the 6th and 7th house. Saturn is the dire enemy of Mars.
From the 1st UL the 2nd UL would give the 2nd Marraige which in your case it is coming to Acquarius rasi and in the d-1 Narayana dasa the Kumbha antara is staring from 03.11.2014-03.11.2015. The antara is being aspecting by the dasa rasi Libra which would give the marriage during the periods mentioned.
Hope this is fine
regards
Uma shanker achanta
Uma shanker achanta
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desyno1
Respected aliens, thank you for the quick reply sir.
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I am afraid not sir, my marriage didn't' even happen until Feb 2003 Ketu MD and Budh AD Vimsottari Dasha, and it broke in Venus/Venus Dec 2004 Vimsottari.
Can you please tell me what my ATMAKARAKA is?? is it Shukra ji or Rahu ji ? Some softwares say its Shukra and some say its Rahu , very confusing
Thank you again.
[color=#0000FF]"I do not if I am right or wrong the saturn antara should have created problems for you and resulting in seperation. It was from 12.05.2001-22.06.2002. Saturn is aspecting your 7th from lagna and also it is aspecting Venus and Sun"[/color]
I am afraid not sir, my marriage didn't' even happen until Feb 2003 Ketu MD and Budh AD Vimsottari Dasha, and it broke in Venus/Venus Dec 2004 Vimsottari.
Can you please tell me what my ATMAKARAKA is?? is it Shukra ji or Rahu ji ? Some softwares say its Shukra and some say its Rahu , very confusing
Thank you again.
hello desyno
Jhora software shows ur AK as Rahu and AMk as Venus
7th lord venus,the natural karak of marriage is sitting in the 12th house of losss,that could prob have led to the break up of ur first marriage ..Saturn is 7th lord in navamsa ,so he could give marriager as well though i am not sure abt it...from nov 2011, u will be in first phase of sade sati, so in addition to Venus,u will also be under the influence of Saturn ,so marriage may be possible
thanks
Jhora software shows ur AK as Rahu and AMk as Venus
7th lord venus,the natural karak of marriage is sitting in the 12th house of losss,that could prob have led to the break up of ur first marriage ..Saturn is 7th lord in navamsa ,so he could give marriager as well though i am not sure abt it...from nov 2011, u will be in first phase of sade sati, so in addition to Venus,u will also be under the influence of Saturn ,so marriage may be possible
thanks
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desyno1
Dear Scholars,
How is Rahu ji as AK in 11th house ? how does that work or what does it actually mean ?
Thank you
How is Rahu ji as AK in 11th house ? how does that work or what does it actually mean ?
Thank you
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desyno1
Thank you sir for the reply, what i meant was, What does a AK do in 11th house, Rahu ji being AK in Kanya Rashi 11th house ? is it good or is it very good ? Is it good for spirituality ? Or ?
Regards!
Regards!
Most planets do well in the 11th house as 11th is considered an upachaya...rahu and ketu give results acc to their sign dispositors,nakshatra dispositors and aspects if any
rahu in ur chart is in the 11th ,a very good placement for rahu and its dispositor is mercury who is in the lagna, a very good placement ..Rahu is not receiving any aspect in ur chart,so u could expect rahu to give results of mercury ,the 11th lord and 11th house is the house of fulfilment of desires and the house of gains ,so yes u would probably see gains from ur profession
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rahu in ur chart is in the 11th ,a very good placement for rahu and its dispositor is mercury who is in the lagna, a very good placement ..Rahu is not receiving any aspect in ur chart,so u could expect rahu to give results of mercury ,the 11th lord and 11th house is the house of fulfilment of desires and the house of gains ,so yes u would probably see gains from ur profession
thanks
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desyno1
Dear astro sir, thank you. Something positive I have in my chart. Good to hear.
Best regards.
Thank you
Best regards.
Thank you
Dear Friends,
I have rahu alone in 12th house , Venus in 1st house and saturn alone in 11th house . I am running Rahu MD with venus AD does this mean that this Rahu-Venus Dasha will be very good . As My Lagna is Venus & its strong ascendant . Please give your veiws . Also what is my AK & what does it mean .
mu DOB is 25.11.1977 time 5.20am Chandigarh India
Thanks
Regards
A
I have rahu alone in 12th house , Venus in 1st house and saturn alone in 11th house . I am running Rahu MD with venus AD does this mean that this Rahu-Venus Dasha will be very good . As My Lagna is Venus & its strong ascendant . Please give your veiws . Also what is my AK & what does it mean .
mu DOB is 25.11.1977 time 5.20am Chandigarh India
Thanks
Regards
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