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What do you think of Nadi dosha .... or again is it just another tool for astrologers to extract money ? AND how is astrology different from Chart matching in terms of 'a profitable industry for the professionals' ??
Hello SC,
sorry i missed the above part of your comment....let me respond:

1) on Nadi dosha...i haven't studied that subject so i cannot comment
2) On astrology in general vs. Chart Matching: Chart matching aspect of astrology is foreced by the clients on the atsrologers.

If a native has a bad chart......he / she will have a problematic married life. The only logical solutions are either a) don't get married or b) marry and live with problems learning to manage them.

a) is not acceptable to the natives......society puts too much pressure on BEING maried
b) is not acceptable to potential partners...who would want to touch a problematic candidate for marriage.

Therefor largely under the compulsion of society matchin/ cancellation services were evolved.

However if you have verifiable cases as requested earlier....we can discuss more
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Shilpa, Chart matching is not only to check a happy married life. Its also done to determine long life, finance, luck, children, health, harmony, mutual affection, temperament and sexual compatibility. No chart is flawless and every chart has some or the other issue. The charts actually work in unison once you get married. I understand that if chart indicates that the person will lead a happy life, he/she will lead a happy life ...doenst matter where the happiness comes from. If two persons are not compatible then they will have issues for sure. It even goes with friends....some people you connect with and some you cant....still all may be living a great life. Take business partners.....both could prosper separately but if they start a new business together....it may just flop. There has been a lot of research and studies done on compatibility by renowned astrologers. Its similar to the 'aspect of the nodes'....few believe in it ...few dont !

If its written in a girls chart that her husband will be diseased....then he will suffer for sure. But if we match the charts and get her married to someone whos chart indicates a healthy life...the effects may minimize. Similar concept we take for Manglik Dosha. Thats the 'how much' I pointed to in my last reply. How much is canceled and how much is remaining....theres no straight calculation. It can never be...but the effects are reduced for sure.

Postmortems of charts could be done to prove anything. Every planet / house has a good and bad aspect to it. What ever chart we bring on...we will be able to prove what we want to prove. I dont even want to go there.....I still believe that we should match charts and a Manglik should be married to a manglik. There will always be different school of thoughts and we could all follow what we believe makes sense.

Wish you the best !!
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sinecurve wrote:Shilpa, Chart matching is not only to check a happy married life. Its also done to determine long life, finance, luck, children, health, harmony, mutual affection, temperament and sexual compatibility. No chart is flawless and every chart has some or the other issue. The charts actually work in unison once you get married. I understand that if chart indicates that the person will lead a happy life, he/she will lead a happy life ...doenst matter where the happiness comes from. If two persons are not compatible then they will have issues for sure. It even goes with friends....some people you connect with and some you cant....still all may be living a great life. Take business partners.....both could prosper separately but if they start a new business together....it may just flop. There has been a lot of research and studies done on compatibility by renowned astrologers. Its similar to the 'aspect of the nodes'....few believe in it ...few dont !

If its written in a girls chart that her husband will be diseased....then he will suffer for sure. But if we match the charts and get her married to someone whos chart indicates a healthy life...the effects may minimize. Similar concept we take for Manglik Dosha. Thats the 'how much' I pointed to in my last reply. How much is canceled and how much is remaining....theres no straight calculation. It can never be...but the effects are reduced for sure.

Postmortems of charts could be done to prove anything. Every planet / house has a good and bad aspect to it. What ever chart we bring on...we will be able to prove what we want to prove. I dont even want to go there.....I still believe that we should match charts and a Manglik should be married to a manglik. There will always be different school of thoughts and we could all follow what we believe makes sense.

Wish you the best !!

Dear Friend SC,

--in principal i understand horoscope matching can be applied to business, children, harmony peace, partnerships...etc......

--in practice I am highly skeptical. While standalone horoscope analysis has solid, age old principles and definitive objectives which produce verifiable results.
Matching has no defnite principles and no defnied objectives.....what constitutes a good match....or even a match?
Between two horoscopes in mathematical paralance there are 100s of variables.....and a few of those could be matched to show anything.
Hence agreeing on some uniform principles and what constitutes a good match is essential for this to be a univerally believable excercise...like single horoscope analysis is.

Any-way...those are my thoughts and rationale.....I appreciate you having taken the time to explain your POV
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shilpa wrote:
Dear Friend SC,

--in principal i understand horoscope matching can be applied to business, children, harmony peace, partnerships...etc......

--in practice I am highly skeptical. While standalone horoscope analysis has solid, age old principles and definitive objectives which produce verifiable results.
Matching has no defnite principles and no defnied objectives.....what constitutes a good match....or even a match?
Between two horoscopes in mathematical paralance there are 100s of variables.....and a few of those could be matched to show anything.
Hence agreeing on some uniform principles and what constitutes a good match is essential for this to be a univerally believable excercise...like single horoscope analysis is.

Any-way...those are my thoughts and rationale.....I appreciate you having taken the time to explain your POV
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Shilpa, Now you are making big statements and that too coz of your lack of knowledge. Kundli Milan is very well established practice and there are definitive variables taken into account while matching charts.

Ever heard of Bhakoot dosa ? Nadi Dosa ? .... Runanubhandana ??


There are different systems which use different set of rules and principals...similar to the dasha systems...like we have vimshottari Dasha, Narayana dasha etc...

For example one system uses variables like Lagna, Lagnadipathi, Rashi, Rashipathi, Vasya, Mahendra, Ghana, Yoni, Dina, StreeDeerga etc......Then it also checks for doshas like Rajju Dosha, Veda dosha, Kuja dosha etc .... and Dasha Sandhi check ....

Another system might have similar but slightly different approach ... what they do is -

Bhava Milan for main houses thats 1,2,4,7,8,12 and Venus.
Dasha Milan thats ongoing dasha for the couple.
Guna Milan - Verna, Vashya, Tara, Yoni, Graha Maitri, Gana, Bhakoot, Nadi etc ....


Any idea what m i talking 'bout here ???

Do some homework before you start criticizing established practices. We dont know 1% of Astrology and you start claiming that Chart matching is useless ???
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Hi Sinecurve and Shilpa
Sorry for interrupting your discussion. I want to add my 2 cents here.

I personally know an astrologer who metioned the following statements based on his experience in matching.
1. When both bride and groom horoscope have Rahu-Ketu dosha then both are suffering.
2. When one horoscope has Rahu-Ketu dosha while the other horoscope is Suddha (without Rahu ketu dosha), they are doing fine.
Similarly for the kuja dosha also.

Though there is a lot of theory available on all this guna milan, manglik dosha level and their cancellation, Rahu-Ketu dosha, Shashtashtakam what works practically is a big question.

I too second shilpa's opinion that if an individual has a good horoscope and has sufficient luck or skills to protect his well-being he will do good independant of the spouse's chart placements.
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sinecurve wrote: Shilpa, Now you are making big statements and that too coz of your lack of knowledge.


Hello SC...I didn't claim to be knowledgable....but a skeptic.



Kundli Milan is very well established practice and there are definitive variables taken into account while matching charts.

Ever heard of Bhakoot dosa ? Nadi Dosa ? .... Runanubhandana ??


There are different systems which use different set of rules and principals...similar to the dasha systems...like we have vimshottari Dasha, Narayana dasha etc...

For example one system uses variables like Lagna, Lagnadipathi, Rashi, Rashipathi, Vasya, Mahendra, Ghana, Yoni, Dina, StreeDeerga etc......Then it also checks for doshas like Rajju Dosha, Veda dosha, Kuja dosha etc .... and Dasha Sandhi check ....

Another system might have similar but slightly different approach ... what they do is -

Bhava Milan for main houses thats 1,2,4,7,8,12 and Venus.
Dasha Milan thats ongoing dasha for the couple.
Guna Milan - Verna, Vashya, Tara, Yoni, Graha Maitri, Gana, Bhakoot, Nadi etc ....


You merely reaffirm the point for me......too many variables and not enough consistent definition of what is a good match or even a match...or what are the gains using these many systems.
You have a few times skirted around 2 simple queries:
1) are there verifable case studies of 2 standalone good horoscopes.....that went bust after going in a realtionship because their charts were not matched ??
2) are their verifiable case studies of two badly afflicted Manglik horoscopes that cancelled and enjoyed good marital bliss?


Do some homework before you start criticizing established practices.
We dont know 1% of Astrology and you start claiming that Chart matching is useless ???
My friend...to be a flim critic...you don;t have to produce and direct films :D...you merely have to undertsand films enough
To criticize your team's bad cricket game...you don't have to play for India....you merely have to undertsand cricket enough

I am not even a critic but a skeptic.
It is quite normal to spend decades trying to make sense of multiple systems dealing with 100s of variable...in various astrology systems and sub-systems.
It depends on what your objective is...to master complex processes only?
or to derive simple but accurate answers??
in the end an average man's needs are quite simple....marriage, children, health,wealth is about the limit of what he wants to know.
And the proof is in the pudding....providing simple-verifiable-answers. Doesn't matter whether you use 1% or 90% of astrology to derive the answers.

I will beleive the value of matching only when I see verifiable results.

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My friend...to be a flim critic...you don;t have to produce and direct films :D...you merely have to undertsand films enough
To criticize your team's bad cricket game...you don't have to play for India....you merely have to undertsand cricket enough

I am not even a critic but a skeptic.
It is quite normal to spend decades trying to make sense of multiple systems dealing with 100s of variable...in various astrology systems and sub-systems.
It depends on what your objective is...to master complex processes only?
or to derive simple but accurate answers??

in the end an average man's needs are quite simple....marriage, children, health,wealth is about the limit of what he wants to know.
And the proof is in the pudding....providing simple-verifiable-answers. Doesn't matter whether you use 1% or 90% of astrology to derive the answers.

I will beleive the value of matching only when I see verifiable results.

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Do you have any idea what you talking 'bout ??? Shilpa Dont just write anything for the sake of argument !

You want to derive accurate answers without even going in depth of the subject...right ?....Perfect !! All I want to say is dont comment on subjects you DO NOT understand. Being a movie or sports critic is a totally different ball-game....theres a difference betwn an astrologer who has spent his life digging in on the subject in compared to a teenager who loosely comments about sports or movies.

I pointed out in my earlier post as well...lets live with what we think makes sense
....PLEASE DO NOT make statements like "Matching has no defnite principles and no defnied objectives.....what constitutes a good match....or even a match? " based on your half-baked knowledge.

I have absolutely no intention to change anyones views on any subject...frankly i give a damm ! But again lets refrain from commenting strongly on topics we dont fully understand.
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sikhidvaja wrote:Hi Sinecurve and Shilpa
Sorry for interrupting your discussion. I want to add my 2 cents here.

I personally know an astrologer who metioned the following statements based on his experience in matching.
1. When both bride and groom horoscope have Rahu-Ketu dosha then both are suffering.
2. When one horoscope has Rahu-Ketu dosha while the other horoscope is Suddha (without Rahu ketu dosha), they are doing fine.
Similarly for the kuja dosha also.
Sikhidvaja, We also have to look at lordship of the nodes, nakshtra they are placed, benefic aspects and the conjn planets. Always !
Though there is a lot of theory available on all this guna milan, manglik dosha level and their cancellation, Rahu-Ketu dosha, Shashtashtakam what works practically is a big question.

I too second shilpa's opinion that if an individual has a good horoscope and has sufficient luck or skills to protect his well-being he will do good independant of the spouse's chart placements.
How many good horoscopes do we you have ?? How do we define a good horoscope ? Shri B V Raman claims he only knows 3% of astrology....what do you think about us ?? Kundali Milan is like air-bags in the car...additional protection measure. Just to assure a better life for the couple.

Also, We are talking about the compatibility between the couple and living a happy life together....individually they could be happy ...no doubt ! Theres even difference betwn ' I m happily married' and 'We are happily married' !

Hope that helps !
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Sujit wrote:Dear Sheetal,
You could have accepted new job mid september onwards.
In my view Marriage chances would come around July 2011 onwards.

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Hell friends,,,,,,I'm sneha here,,,,I think you are absolutely right now,,,,,,,so I agree with you....wait some times i help you... .
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sinecurve wrote:

Do you have any idea what you talking 'bout ??? Shilpa Dont just write anything for the sake of argument !

You want to derive accurate answers without even going in depth of the subject...right ?....Perfect !! All I want to say is dont comment on subjects you DO NOT understand. Being a movie or sports critic is a totally different ball-game....theres a difference betwn an astrologer who has spent his life digging in on the subject in compared to a teenager who loosely comments about sports or movies.




I pointed out in my earlier post as well...lets live with what we think makes sense
....]PLEASE DO NOT make statements like "Matching has no defnite principles and no defnied objectives.....what constitutes a good match....or even a match? " based on your half-baked knowledge.I have absolutely no intention to change anyones views on any subject...frankly i give a damm ! But again lets refrain from commenting strongly on topics we dont fully understand.
hello sc,

do you know ad-hominem argument?
when instead of attacking the argument...you attack the arguer....like some of the underlined texts suggest?

I or for that matter world does not care for compelxity of knowldege that a person has or claims...but the results that he can deliver.
Respect is earned in the professional world by delivering results...that speaks for themself......and not demanded for the knowldege one thinks he posseses.
Enough Said.

There might be dozens of systems full of compelxities....that people spend years learning....
that any of these can bring value by matching charts needs to be unequivocally demosntrated. One way for you to do that is to furnish verifiable case studies of the 2 point queries I made rigth from the start....and that you have kind-off skirted right from the start
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hello sinecurve,
let me ask you one question.... the same question... which was the starting point of the discussion.

have you matched 2 horoscopes that were manglik or badly afflicted standalone from a marital POV...and put them togther as a couple and observed the cancellation of their respective bads in those horoscopes ?

I would appreciate if instead of digressing, lecturing or going the ad-hominem route....you answer the above.


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shilpa wrote:
hello sc,

do you know ad-hominem argument?
when instead of attacking the argument...you attack the arguer....like some of the underlined texts suggest?

I or for that matter world does not care for compelxity of knowldege that a person has or claims...but the results that he can deliver.
Respect is earned in the professional world by delivering results...that speaks for themself......and not demanded for the knowldege one thinks he posseses.
Enough Said.

There might be dozens of systems full of compelxities....that people spend years learning....
that any of these can bring value by matching charts needs to be unequivocally demosntrated. One way for you to do that is to furnish verifiable case studies of the 2 point queries I made rigth from the start....and that you have kind-off skirted right from the start
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Shilpa, Read what i have written carefully before you start jumping around....do you think I give a damm what you believe in or not ?? You think you could predict and give accurate answers / deliver accurate results based on your half-baked knowledge...Please go ahead !! Do I care ??? NO....why would I ??.... Got it ?? Loud n clear ??

Now, You dont make strong statements about matching charts coz you dont have a clue 'bout it. You cant condemn french language coz you dont know how to speak it. Simple as that !! You do some homework...how the chart matching is done and then come back with points why it does or doesnt work....Got It ?? Then we will bring the charts and discuss it. Bring some substance on the table...and then we will talk about it !! Please dont talk from the hat....Postmortem of the charts is just a BS approach.

Again, No one is forcing you to believe or not believe in any wings of astrology ....right ?? All we ask is Please DO NOT condemn something you have no idea 'bout !

Dont worry about the verifiable results so much....We both are on the forum....we will get ample opportunities and live charts to debate on.

And Ms. Genius ....we are discussing Astrology on Astrology forum ...and not english jargons ....so lets keep it that way !
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sinecurve wrote:
shilpa wrote:
hello sc,

do you know ad-hominem argument?
when instead of attacking the argument...you attack the arguer....like some of the underlined texts suggest?

I or for that matter world does not care for compelxity of knowldege that a person has or claims...but the results that he can deliver.
Respect is earned in the professional world by delivering results...that speaks for themself......and not demanded for the knowldege one thinks he posseses.
Enough Said.

There might be dozens of systems full of compelxities....that people spend years learning....
that any of these can bring value by matching charts needs to be unequivocally demosntrated. One way for you to do that is to furnish verifiable case studies of the 2 point queries I made rigth from the start....and that you have kind-off skirted right from the start
Regards
Shilpa, Read what i have written carefully before you start jumping around....do you think I give a damm what you believe in or not ?? You think you could predict and give accurate answers / deliver accurate results based on your half-baked knowledge...Please go ahead !! Do I care ??? NO....why would I ??.... Got it ?? Loud n clear ??

+++ I didn't claim anything about me :D ...did I ?? you are getting touchy and defensive !!...that's the implication when a forum veteran attacks a noivce
Now, You dont make strong statements about matching charts coz you dont have a clue 'bout it. You cant condemn french language coz you dont know how to speak it. Simple as that !! You do some homework...how the chart matching is done and then come back with points why it does or doesnt work....Got It ?? Then we will bring the charts and discuss it. Bring some substance on the table...and then we will talk about it !! Please dont talk from the hat....Postmortem of the charts is just a BS approach.

+++ you are the proponent of chart matching ????...then answer the the question I asked.
Instead of throwing jargons or attacking...you would make your point if you could answer simple questions simply.

Again, No one is forcing you to believe or not believe in any wings of astrology ....right ??

+++But i am asking you to validate in the public domain veriafble experiences in matching. Not forcing you....but your inability to defend your claims logically weakens your claims

All we ask is Please DO NOT condemn something you have no idea 'bout !

+++ Hmmm...you have idea about chart-matching then you answer the simple questions I have asked...instead of digressing/ attacking

Dont worry about the verifiable results so much....We both are on the forum....we will get ample opportunities and live charts to debate on.

+++Sorry I am not here to compete with anyone...I am here to learn from the many live cases and good discussions.
However I will challnage what does not confirm to my sense of logic......
and thats why I asked the 2 questions
instead of answering logiclly, you, threw I-am-an-expert-you-are-half-baked-don't-dare-question-me type responses.
Fine...this forum is not about you and me only there are 1000s who read this and will form their opinion about both you and me :wink:
In a debate....you are trying to take the role of the arguer and the judge also......doesn't work like that.


And Ms. Genius ....we are discussing Astrology on Astrology forum ...and not english jargons ....so lets keep it that way !

++thx for confirming you understood ad-hominem :mrgreen:
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shilpa wrote: instead of answering logiclly, you, threw I-am-an-expert-you-are-half-baked-don't-dare-question-me type responses.
Fine...this forum is not about you and me only there are 1000s who read this and will form their opinion about both you and me :wink:
In a debate....you are trying to take the role of the arguer and the judge also......doesn't work like that.[/color]
Shilpa, I never said even once on the forum that I m n expert. We all are learners here and you might be better at astrology. The question was about Manglik Dosha match / Kundli matching and if we believe it or not. I have faith in it and you dont....REREAD WHAT I HAVE WRITTEN ABOVE ......I said I dont care about your believes but PLS. DO NOT CONDEMN something with your half baked knowledge.

Frankly I shouldnt have even cared if you condemned it but as you mentioned above its a public domain and 1000s are reading it ...just that I dont want them to loose faith in kundali matching. Now I m not even good at kundali match and have a basic know-how ....but I believe in it and suggest it.

I have been traveln extensively so less access to net these days....so cldnt reply earlier.
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sinecurve wrote:
shilpa wrote: instead of answering logiclly, you, threw I-am-an-expert-you-are-half-baked-don't-dare-question-me type responses.
Fine...this forum is not about you and me only there are 1000s who read this and will form their opinion about both you and me :wink:
In a debate....you are trying to take the role of the arguer and the judge also......doesn't work like that.[/color]
Shilpa, I never said even once on the forum that I m n expert. We all are learners here and you might be better at astrology. The question was about Manglik Dosha match / Kundli matching and if we believe it or not. I have faith in it and you dont....REREAD WHAT I HAVE WRITTEN ABOVE ......I said I dont care about your believes but PLS. DO NOT CONDEMN something with your half baked knowledge.

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I don't know what you mean by CONDEMN?...I didn't use that word....you threw that in.

I do not believe in kundali matching....and that is my opinion.

Regarding half baked knowledge....who are you to judge that????
Will you allow me to test your knowledge...to see where you stand?

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shilpa wrote:
sinecurve wrote:
shilpa wrote: instead of answering logiclly, you, threw I-am-an-expert-you-are-half-baked-don't-dare-question-me type responses.
Fine...this forum is not about you and me only there are 1000s who read this and will form their opinion about both you and me :wink:
In a debate....you are trying to take the role of the arguer and the judge also......doesn't work like that.[/color]
Shilpa, I never said even once on the forum that I m n expert. We all are learners here and you might be better at astrology. The question was about Manglik Dosha match / Kundli matching and if we believe it or not. I have faith in it and you dont....REREAD WHAT I HAVE WRITTEN ABOVE ......I said I dont care about your believes but PLS. DO NOT CONDEMN something with your half baked knowledge.

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I don't know what you mean by CONDEMN?...I didn't use that word....you threw that in.
Below is something you have written in your post....in bold RED...:)

Matching has no defnite principles and no defnied objectives.....what constitutes a good match....or even a match?
Regarding half baked knowledge....who are you to judge that????
So you an expert ?? :D Great !! Do i care ?? .....but above 'Red' statement sounds like 'i dont believe and WRITE AGAINST 'Global warming' coz i hv no idea what it is' ;)
Will you allow me to test your knowledge...to see where you stand ?
Why ?? So you could prove urself better ?? ...... dont you have anything better to do ?? ....huh !!
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Shilpa, I was just going through another thread on KSY....where also you made huge and abrupt statements and were proved wrong though out thread. The thread even had verifiable examples which you keep demanding all the time.

For your reference....

http://lightonvedicastrology.com/phpBB3 ... 0&start=50

No idea what you trying to prove on this forum ..... Seriously !!
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sinecurve wrote:Shilpa, I was just going through another thread on KSY....where also you made huge and abrupt statements and were proved wrong though out thread. The thread even had verifiable examples which you keep demanding all the time.

For your reference....

http://lightonvedicastrology.com/phpBB3 ... 0&start=50

No idea what you trying to prove on this forum ..... Seriously !!

sorry my friend...this is an off-topic inflammatory comment......posted more with the intention of scoring points.
Hence I have *no further comments*
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shilpa wrote:
sinecurve wrote:Shilpa, I was just going through another thread on KSY....where also you made huge and abrupt statements and were proved wrong though out thread. The thread even had verifiable examples which you keep demanding all the time.

For your reference....

http://lightonvedicastrology.com/phpBB3 ... 0&start=50

No idea what you trying to prove on this forum ..... Seriously !!

sorry my friend...this is an off-topic inflammatory comment......posted more with the intention of scoring points.
Hence I have *no further comments*
scoring points ??? :D You are hilarious !!

Sooner or later this "*no further comments*" will be there on all your threads !

OR

Why dont we stop acting high-headed and try to understand what others or 'classical text' have to say ?? May be they are right ?? NO ??
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Dear friend sincecurve,
As stated I will get back to you on the 1-7axis subject on the other thread.

As requested earlier....However can you share with me if you have verifiable cases otherwise to discuss:

1) 2 bad or manglik charts cancelled each other when married. I further asked you earlier....completely or partially...and if partial how much?
2) 2 standalone good charts from marriage POV....not matched ended up in a very bad relationship?
Thx
S

sinecurve wrote:
shilpa wrote:
sinecurve wrote: instead of answering logiclly, you, threw I-am-an-expert-you-are-half-baked-don't-dare-question-me type responses.
Fine...this forum is not about you and me only there are 1000s who read this and will form their opinion about both you and me :wink:
In a debate....you are trying to take the role of the arguer and the judge also......doesn't work like that.[/color]
Shilpa, I never said even once on the forum that I m n expert. We all are learners here and you might be better at astrology. The question was about Manglik Dosha match / Kundli matching and if we believe it or not. I have faith in it and you dont....REREAD WHAT I HAVE WRITTEN ABOVE ......I said I dont care about your believes but PLS. DO NOT CONDEMN something with your half baked knowledge.

.
I don't know what you mean by CONDEMN?...I didn't use that word....you threw that in.
Below is something you have written in your post....in bold RED...:)

Matching has no defnite principles and no defnied objectives.....what constitutes a good match....or even a match?
Regarding half baked knowledge....who are you to judge that????
So you an expert ?? :D Great !! Do i care ?? .....but above 'Red' statement sounds like 'i dont believe and WRITE AGAINST 'Global warming' coz i hv no idea what it is' ;)
Will you allow me to test your knowledge...to see where you stand ?
Why ?? So you could prove urself better ?? ...... dont you have anything better to do ?? ....huh !![/quote]
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shilpa wrote:Dear friend sincecurve,
As stated I will get back to you on the 1-7axis subject on the other thread.

As requested earlier....However can you share with me if you have verifiable cases otherwise to discuss:

1) 2 bad or manglik charts cancelled each other when married. I further asked you earlier....completely or partially...and if partial how much?
2) 2 standalone good charts from marriage POV....not matched ended up in a very bad relationship?
Thx
S

:D Shilpa dont just sit n play tricks now !! You dont even know how chart matching is done ...OR do you ? What will you discuss ?? I said before also...do some homework before you even start talking .... you are already proved wrong in all other threads posted for combustion and KSY...you had no answers there so you started to comment about the language used..... now you want me to waste my time with you on some topic you again have no knowledge about ?? Come back when you have some substance....then we will talk....may be discuss on live examples on the forum.

I asked you few terms used in matching charts .....you had no idea ! You dont believe in classical text....also you said on other thread that you dont even care what you predict is right or wrong .... what will we talk about ?? Stop wasting everyones time here....
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sinecurve wrote:
shilpa wrote:Dear friend sincecurve,
As stated I will get back to you on the 1-7axis subject on the other thread.

As requested earlier....However can you share with me if you have verifiable cases otherwise to discuss:

1) 2 bad or manglik charts cancelled each other when married. I further asked you earlier....completely or partially...and if partial how much?
2) 2 standalone good charts from marriage POV....not matched ended up in a very bad relationship?
Thx
S

:D Shilpa dont just sit n play tricks now !! You dont even know how chart matching is done ...OR do you ? What will you discuss ??

please do your part...provide the refrences...the readers will make up their mind

I said before also...do some homework before you even start talking ....

please refrain from such personal comments
you are already proved wrong in all other threads

who decides what is right or wrong ?


posted for combustion and KSY...you had no answers there so you started to comment about the language used.....

there were perosnal, abusive and patronizing comments....and until proper rules of enagement were followed...I stopped discussion.

now you want me to waste my time with you on some topic you again have no knowledge about ??
who judges my knowledge ???...you do ?
and I cannot judge your knowldege?
who has assigned those roles to you and me?


Come back when you have some substance....then we will talk....may be discuss on live examples on the forum.

I asked you few terms used in matching charts .....you had no idea ! You dont believe in classical text....also you said on other thread that you dont even care what you predict is right or wrong .... what will we talk about ?? Stop wasting everyones time here....

Please post the examples requestd of you...as you are the proponent of matching
Thx
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Sneha ji,
wat do you intend? You have just copied SineCurve's message and pasted it here. I am sorry to say that none of your messages make any rationale.
Please post something relevant.
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hello sinecurve,
let me ask you one question.... the same question... which was the starting point of the discussion.......have you matched 2 horoscopes that were manglik or badly afflicted standalone from a marital POV...and put them togther as a couple and observed the cancellation of their respective bads in those horoscopes ?I would appreciate if instead of digressing, lecturing or going the ad-hominem route....you answer the above..........Thanks lot for post......... :) :)
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