How will Venus sub period be under Saturn main period
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R V RAMANAN
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Dear Jason
the reason is very simple, saturn is debilitated. Though he is a friend of venus, venus is not a yoga karaka for sagi. your fears that saturn as lord of 2nd will kill you is ruled out as he is very weak.
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ramanan
the reason is very simple, saturn is debilitated. Though he is a friend of venus, venus is not a yoga karaka for sagi. your fears that saturn as lord of 2nd will kill you is ruled out as he is very weak.
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ramanan
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Dear Ragasakthi
The chances are very high as both venus and saturn are in their own houses and in a kendra to each other. the shadbala strength of saturn is very high. If you are living in madurai then pray to goddess parvati (Meenakshi amman) on a daily basis. I see your future bright. Moon & jupiter in the 4th should give you good education.
regards
ramanan
The chances are very high as both venus and saturn are in their own houses and in a kendra to each other. the shadbala strength of saturn is very high. If you are living in madurai then pray to goddess parvati (Meenakshi amman) on a daily basis. I see your future bright. Moon & jupiter in the 4th should give you good education.
regards
ramanan
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jasonb0709
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Dear Ramanan,
Thanks for the reply.
That's good to know.
Now, regarding Saturn's debilitation,
I see that, Mars is in Lagna and
The Sun who gets exalted there, is posited 10th from Moon.
Due to these factors, is not debilitation cancelled?
What exactly debilitation canceling really mean? Is that a rajayoga?
Thanks !!
Thanks for the reply.
That's good to know.
Now, regarding Saturn's debilitation,
I see that, Mars is in Lagna and
The Sun who gets exalted there, is posited 10th from Moon.
Due to these factors, is not debilitation cancelled?
What exactly debilitation canceling really mean? Is that a rajayoga?
Thanks !!
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R V RAMANAN
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Dear Jason,
The cancellation of debility literally means that the debility is obstructed paving way for some good things. Neecha banga means obstruction of debility rather than its complete cancellation. Actually, this is a RAja yoga no doubt, but there are also other considerations. Let us say, u r handicapped bcos of some planet, Neecha banga means that despite the handicap u will get some blessings and not that the handicap will be removed.
For eg., in a chart which shows polio. If the planet involved gets neecha banga it does not in any way mean this polio will be reversed rather he might get a very good job due to a handicap quota or something like that.
Trust this helps,
Regards,
Ramanan
The cancellation of debility literally means that the debility is obstructed paving way for some good things. Neecha banga means obstruction of debility rather than its complete cancellation. Actually, this is a RAja yoga no doubt, but there are also other considerations. Let us say, u r handicapped bcos of some planet, Neecha banga means that despite the handicap u will get some blessings and not that the handicap will be removed.
For eg., in a chart which shows polio. If the planet involved gets neecha banga it does not in any way mean this polio will be reversed rather he might get a very good job due to a handicap quota or something like that.
Trust this helps,
Regards,
Ramanan
Respected RV Ramanan has answered your query in a very simple and straight manner. I am highly thankful to Ramanan Ji for this beautiful explanation.
I will like to add my two cents. I hope Ramanan Ji will correct my mistakes.
In Neech Bhanga Rajyoga there usually two planets involved. One which is neecha and the other planet which is giving neech bhanga. In such cases, in the period of of neech graha person will have to face the troubles associated with neech graha in that specific chart. And when the period of planet giving neech bhanga comes then native will recover from those problems.
further, A neech planet can get neech bhanga from different methods and thus the result of these neech bhanga rajyoga will also be different. I mean to say that if a planet if getting neech bhanga because it's dispositor is in kendra from moon, then it's NBRY results may be different from the situation where same planet is getting NBRY because it's dispositor is in quadrant from lagna.
I hope R.V. Ramanan Ji will correct me if I am wrong
Regards
Atul
I will like to add my two cents. I hope Ramanan Ji will correct my mistakes.
In Neech Bhanga Rajyoga there usually two planets involved. One which is neecha and the other planet which is giving neech bhanga. In such cases, in the period of of neech graha person will have to face the troubles associated with neech graha in that specific chart. And when the period of planet giving neech bhanga comes then native will recover from those problems.
further, A neech planet can get neech bhanga from different methods and thus the result of these neech bhanga rajyoga will also be different. I mean to say that if a planet if getting neech bhanga because it's dispositor is in kendra from moon, then it's NBRY results may be different from the situation where same planet is getting NBRY because it's dispositor is in quadrant from lagna.
I hope R.V. Ramanan Ji will correct me if I am wrong
Regards
Atul
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Dear Ramanan and Atul,
Thank you so much for the clarification. I really appreciate it.
I *definitely* experienced serious problems during saturn-saturn.
During this period, I got divorced, I lost my job, I moved from East coast to West coast of America, I lost years savings, many such ...
So, I did feel the negative effects of Saturn pretty significantly, more than just his portfolio?
Saturn has indeed let me very frustrated, hopeless about future. (That is why I even asked before if he would kill too, being 2nd lord).
I am very drawn towards spirituality, Buddhism. I do spend quite a bit of my time in doing meditation, retreats etc.
(That was the case since 1998, but much more intensely now.)
The burning question for me is, I am already getting close to 40. Will I ever find another life partner?
My efforts to find a girl have totally left me even more totally frustrated.
I guess, I am very pessimistic, and negative person (Perhaps that can be explained by Saturn being in 5th)
That is not helping me find a girl. (Even he kills any romantic aspects by being in 5th).
I am trying very hard in self improvement, but nothing is working.
Thank you so much for your insight .
Best regards,
Jason
Thank you so much for the clarification. I really appreciate it.
I *definitely* experienced serious problems during saturn-saturn.
During this period, I got divorced, I lost my job, I moved from East coast to West coast of America, I lost years savings, many such ...
So, I did feel the negative effects of Saturn pretty significantly, more than just his portfolio?
Saturn has indeed let me very frustrated, hopeless about future. (That is why I even asked before if he would kill too, being 2nd lord).
I am very drawn towards spirituality, Buddhism. I do spend quite a bit of my time in doing meditation, retreats etc.
(That was the case since 1998, but much more intensely now.)
The burning question for me is, I am already getting close to 40. Will I ever find another life partner?
My efforts to find a girl have totally left me even more totally frustrated.
I guess, I am very pessimistic, and negative person (Perhaps that can be explained by Saturn being in 5th)
That is not helping me find a girl. (Even he kills any romantic aspects by being in 5th).
I am trying very hard in self improvement, but nothing is working.
Thank you so much for your insight .
Best regards,
Jason
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R V RAMANAN
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Respected Atulji,
Your explanation was much more lucid and clear.
Regards,
Ramanan
Your explanation was much more lucid and clear.
Regards,
Ramanan
Respected Jason,
Shodashottari Dasha is applicable in your chart and you are running saturn-moon period. Saturn is debilitated in 5H with Aruda of 8H and Moon is 8L in 6H at 29th degree. . 8L is highlighted in this period. And this is supposed to give you anxiety and unexpected turns in life (8H) This period is really unpredictable for you. You can listen some very good news some time and some time very bad news. 8H have 4Arudas and 6H and 5H have 2 Arudas each.
For Marriage, Moon is in 8H from 7th in D9 and is ruler of 8th from UL in D1. These both houses shows 2nd marriage and these are connected to Moon whose period has just started. But NArayan dasha is not very much supporting. There is a hope of a relation in this period.
Worshiping Maa Parvati may be helpful in this regard
Regards
Atul
Shodashottari Dasha is applicable in your chart and you are running saturn-moon period. Saturn is debilitated in 5H with Aruda of 8H and Moon is 8L in 6H at 29th degree. . 8L is highlighted in this period. And this is supposed to give you anxiety and unexpected turns in life (8H) This period is really unpredictable for you. You can listen some very good news some time and some time very bad news. 8H have 4Arudas and 6H and 5H have 2 Arudas each.
For Marriage, Moon is in 8H from 7th in D9 and is ruler of 8th from UL in D1. These both houses shows 2nd marriage and these are connected to Moon whose period has just started. But NArayan dasha is not very much supporting. There is a hope of a relation in this period.
Worshiping Maa Parvati may be helpful in this regard
Regards
Atul
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Dear Atul ji,
Thanks a lot for valuable insight. I have 2 clarifications to seek:
> you are running saturn-moon period
Did you mean to say, Saturn-Saturn-Moon? B/c I'm currently running Sat-Sat. Sat-Sat-Moon is supposed to start from Aug-14th (based on info I have), and ends in Nov-14th. It seems like a short-period, if not this time, is there any other period that may be feasible?
> For Marriage, Moon is in 8H from 7th in D9 and is ruler of 8th from UL in D1
In D1 (same as Rasi?), UL is Pisces, that makes Moon the ruler of 5th? (Ruler of 8th from Asc)
Basically, are you looking at 8th lord for 2nd marriage?
(If you could enlighten me, it's death of first marriage and birth of 2nd one? which house from 7th would that be? 5th from 7th? )
Thank you so much!
Best regards,
Jason
Thanks a lot for valuable insight. I have 2 clarifications to seek:
> you are running saturn-moon period
Did you mean to say, Saturn-Saturn-Moon? B/c I'm currently running Sat-Sat. Sat-Sat-Moon is supposed to start from Aug-14th (based on info I have), and ends in Nov-14th. It seems like a short-period, if not this time, is there any other period that may be feasible?
> For Marriage, Moon is in 8H from 7th in D9 and is ruler of 8th from UL in D1
In D1 (same as Rasi?), UL is Pisces, that makes Moon the ruler of 5th? (Ruler of 8th from Asc)
Basically, are you looking at 8th lord for 2nd marriage?
(If you could enlighten me, it's death of first marriage and birth of 2nd one? which house from 7th would that be? 5th from 7th? )
Thank you so much!
Best regards,
Jason
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Venus is a first rate malefic for this chart as owner of 6 and 11. I analyzed chart of John Allen Mohammad last year, but did not write on his chart for various reasons. He has Saturn in Asc in Venus's star (Poorvashada, dhanus asc). Saturn-Moon killed him (moon in 7th) after he was caught few years back in the famous DC killer case.
In your case, Saturn in Venus's star in not a welcome feature -can lead to big disputes, litigtion, fights etc. Since you appear to be is USA, take precautions (insurance, contracts that are clean and neat). If you believe in God or higher force, recite Shiva / Maha mrintunjaya mantra. There are more powerful remedies such as narayana kavacham and Rudram-namakam. You situation will gradually improve. Some of your expectations need to be scaled down for now. Good luck.
MSharma
In your case, Saturn in Venus's star in not a welcome feature -can lead to big disputes, litigtion, fights etc. Since you appear to be is USA, take precautions (insurance, contracts that are clean and neat). If you believe in God or higher force, recite Shiva / Maha mrintunjaya mantra. There are more powerful remedies such as narayana kavacham and Rudram-namakam. You situation will gradually improve. Some of your expectations need to be scaled down for now. Good luck.
MSharma
jasonb0709 wrote:Hello,
I am wondering how Venus sub period be under Saturn main period for Saggitarius rising?
I am currently running Sat/Sat/Venus, so far proving to be extremely life threatening.
Are not Saturn & Venus friends?
I am worried, this Saturn is my 2nd lord, potentially can kill me.
If you need my DOB, : 5th March 1971, 2:17AM, Chennai, Tamilnadu, INDIA.
Thanks
Jason
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Dear All,
Thank you so much for your help and insight.
Best regards,
Jason
Thank you so much for your help and insight.
Best regards,
Jason
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Dear prspum,
> Why u forget that 2nd lord dasha may give u money ,family
Saturn is debilitated. Why would he money and family?
I see that he is aspecting 2nd house.
What exactly does Saturn do to people? IMO, Saturn=>SUFFERING. from practical experience. (Let's take for granted that the native is a buddhist and lives by 5 precepts)
Regards,
Jason
> Why u forget that 2nd lord dasha may give u money ,family
Saturn is debilitated. Why would he money and family?
I see that he is aspecting 2nd house.
What exactly does Saturn do to people? IMO, Saturn=>SUFFERING. from practical experience. (Let's take for granted that the native is a buddhist and lives by 5 precepts)
Regards,
Jason
i am using shodashottari dasha in your chart as it is applicable. It is saturn - moon> you are running saturn-moon period
Did you mean to say, Saturn-Saturn-Moon? B/c I'm currently running Sat-Sat. Sat-Sat-Moon is supposed to start from Aug-14th (based on info I have), and ends in Nov-14th. It seems like a short-period, if not this time, is there any other period that may be feasible?
Yes Jason you are right. 7H and UL shows our first marriage. 8th from it shows 2nd marriage. (and D1 = Rashi chart)> For Marriage, Moon is in 8H from 7th in D9 and is ruler of 8th from UL in D1
In D1 (same as Rasi?), UL is Pisces, that makes Moon the ruler of 5th? (Ruler of 8th from Asc)
Basically, are you looking at 8th lord for 2nd marriage?
(If you could enlighten me, it's death of first marriage and birth of 2nd one? which house from 7th would that be? 5th from 7th? )
For example, generally in D9 7H is considered more than UL for seeing the first marriage. 8th from it will show second marriage. it comes out to be 2nd house from Asc. and third marriage will be shown by 8th from second marriage. Means 8th from 2nd house. And it comes out to be 9H. and so on.
Another facts I will like to mention here, which will be useful for you I think, 1) When we see D7 for children. We see 5th house. because it is 11th from 7th house. so 5th house shows gains from marriage. (1st marriage specifically) If we have to see children from second marriage we will see gains from 2nd marriage. So we will consider 5th from 2H house and similarly for 3rd house.
2) When a person is already married and not divorced yet. But still have a second wife. then it will be seen from 6th house from 7th house means 12H.
In D1 UL is more suitable for considering marriage. So 8th from UL will show 2nd marriage and so on.
I hope it helps
Kind Regards
Atul
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