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Dear Astroboy,

I am not 100% sure about whether your analysis was for me.
I am B.Com with MBA (Finance), currently studying fore other qualifications. Also you mentioned about Buddhaditya yoga whicj i have heard is very good for education, but doesnt seem so in my case. I opted for BIO- maths in my 10+2 to study medicine but couldn't do. i have 2 gaps in my education one after 12th and another after B.com (not exactly as i was enrolled for M.COM).

Hope this helps and look forward to your analysis.

Dear Pink1,

I am amazed by your analysis.

I really look forward to your further analysis and any questions you need to ask.

Thanks & Regards,
Anujaya
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Anujaya ji,

1) In the coming three years, your efforts to obtain other qualifications will succeed but with ups and downs. Not a failure.
2) During this period itself you may try to acquire a house and/or vehicle but with loan and associated struggle.
3) You will see a great time from your 40th year regarding house property, physical comfort, children coming up to your expectations. Till then ups and downs, not a failure is to be endured.

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The three year period i am referring to is from June 2010. This time you will clear your exams. Please take the exams. I have my doubts regarding your going back to india. Ultimately you are one destined for a long stay abroad.

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Dear pink1,
thanks for your encouragement regarding my exam.
recently, my husband has got permanent job offer from India and he has one offer from U.S. But due to visa restrictions on my working IN U.S and also being contract job in U.S.,my husband is inclined to go to India.
I came to uk in 2008 and most likely will go in 2011.
Amazingly most astrologers consulted by my family said the same thing as told by you, but as can be seen from current circumstances, we are coming to India.
How do you see my career prospects.
Will keep you posted of any development as may happen.

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Anujaya
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Good day to you Anujaya,




I wrote,
I am more interested in the Budha Aditya yoga which occur's in the 5th house, the house of intelect. can I take the liberty to enquire your educational qualification's please?
by Anujaya » Thu Apr 22, 2010 2:17 pm


You wrote,
I am not 100% sure about whether your analysis was for me.
I am B.Com with MBA (Finance), currently studying fore other qualifications. Also you mentioned about Buddhaditya yoga whicj i have heard is very good for education, but doesnt seem so in my case. I opted for BIO- maths in my 10+2 to study medicine but couldn't do. i have 2 gaps in my education one after 12th and another after B.com (not exactly as i was enrolled for M.COM).



You are expecting too much out of the planets Anujaya ji :D , you have a MBA in finance and yet you say that the Budha Aditya yoga is null and void? Let me tell you that it's precisely this yoga which has taken you where you are today, but .......... :) (there is always a but :) ) the yoga is blemished because Budha is combust a 100 percent and the result is this, I quote your line "I have already failed in my last 2 attempts(Nov 2008, dec 2009) to clear the finance exam. I am again giving in Jun 2010.


The 5th lord in the 4th is another good Yoga for education.

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Dear Astroboy,

Thanks for your analysis. I do consider myself lucky and grateful for bestowing so many good things. But I sometimes feel the lack of career in my life. I had good career and money 2 yrs back and now I dont exactly know where my life is going. But then I think Life is a journey not destination. I am MBA Finance but not from very prestigious institute, so get sometimes sceptical of my career with break of 2 years.
Will i be able to clear further certifications?

Dear Prspum Ji,

Thanks once again for providing analysis.
I gave exam in Nov 2008, and then dec 2009. Failed in both attempts. Also there is huge money involved in these exams so that is also a loss.

I am really grateful to both of you for sparing your valuable time and extending your knowledge and help.
Thanks & Regards,
Anujaya
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prspum wrote:
in Egypt where astrology is very famous like India they call this combination forming within orb of 1 degree as C' zami ( kindly check encyclopedia).

prspum

prspum ji..Is not C'zami considered only within 0-17 arc minutes?

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Dear Prspum ji I think you misunderstood me , I said that it's the Budha Aditya yoga which has given her the intelligence to get this far with her education.

and some stuff i got of wiki on Cazimi,

Even though Cazimi has traditionally been thought to strengthen the planet's influence as much as being combust the Sun weakens a planet, some modern astrologers disagree with the traditional method of calculating planetary strength and weakness in a chart. Their view of cazimi, as in all conjunctions, is that the positive or negative outcome of the influence will vary according to the nature of the planet(s) involved. So for a modern astrologer, Mars either cazimi or combust the sun is strengthened because Mars is considered fiery and hot, and thus benefits from meeting the fiery heat of the sun. But cold and dry Saturn would weaken when either combust or cazimi, because the nature of the sun is damaging to Saturn. Modern astrologers usually make no distinction between a planet being combust the sun or cazimi.

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Through hard work and spiritual practices, a person gets honor and dignity. The lazy one who puts in no efforts is like a fool who allows salt to be spilled on the wounds of his misfortunes. The idler depending only on fate, achieves nothing. - K.N.Rao ji
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Dear Prspum ji and Astroboy,

I think both of you have seen my chart. My Mercury is completely combust, less than a degree (39 minutes to be precise).
Many people have told me that I am extremely intelligent (even though I dont feel a penny of it.. hehe).
I have only an unworthy feeling for I havn't done anything significant. But I can say that the actions I do are dominated to a large extent by the mind. It is beyond my control to approach a problem un-intellectually.
When I say intellectual, I dont mean a superior intelligence..but I just mean my attitude (of thinking things over and over..sometimes to the point of even obsession..or to the point of worrying too much).
Sometimes I see through situations and people like through a glass..but most of the time I am afraid to say things and make a big mess of myself.
This lack of courage has put me into through so much trouble. All the suffering I have endured can be summed up in this one word 'fear'.
But I have seen 4 or 5 charts with sun-mercury less than 1 deg separation and all of them have an amazing knack of understanding (esp people) yet trouble expressing and communicating...and consequently being misunderstood for in-cognizance to an extent.
just my humble opinion.

very sincerely,
Sunny
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dear sunny - combustion of mercury does not yield bad results.
digitsoftime wrote:Dear Prspum ji and Astroboy,

I think both of you have seen my chart. My Mercury is completely combust, less than a degree (39 minutes to be precise).
Many people have told me that I am extremely intelligent (even though I dont feel a penny of it.. hehe).
I have only an unworthy feeling for I havn't done anything significant. But I can say that the actions I do are dominated to a large extent by the mind. It is beyond my control to approach a problem un-intellectually.
When I say intellectual, I dont mean a superior intelligence..but I just mean my attitude (of thinking things over and over..sometimes to the point of even obsession..or to the point of worrying too much).
Sometimes I see through situations and people like through a glass..but most of the time I am afraid to say things and make a big mess of myself.
This lack of courage has put me into through so much trouble. All the suffering I have endured can be summed up in this one word 'fear'.
But I have seen 4 or 5 charts with sun-mercury less than 1 deg separation and all of them have an amazing knack of understanding (esp people) yet trouble expressing and communicating...and consequently being misunderstood for in-cognizance to an extent.
just my humble opinion.

very sincerely,
Sunny
digitsoftime

Dear Sonuji,

I did not mean to say it was bad. Someone told me that combustion increases the internal significance..
the fear and such things I mentioned might be due to the position of Mars and other factors.

sincerely, sunny
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dear sonu and sunny,

I have also combust mercury with retro. As per my knowledge if planet is combust and it is retro then planet does not consider combust. Ya it can give internal abilities. i have also faced communication problem sometime. Despite of retro planet (mercury) ( retro planet consider as a strong planet) my decision power is weak. My mercury (Asc and 10th lord) placed in 6th house. Some astrologers consider it is weak planet while some consider it is good and strong planet for me. I have been also told extremely intelligent. Some says that do job and some says business is good for me. Here i am unable to take any decision.
So everyone has different opinion about my chart.
If you want to consider my chart, following is my detail

09th march 1980, 08:10 pm, ahmedabad.

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Nitin21

Dear Nilesh,

We should not construe any weakness as just tying it to one planet. Overall chart has to be seen. It may so be possible that your decision making may have nothing to do with mercury.

Regards
Sonu
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Dear Friends,

I have a deeply combust jupiter in 2nd house(Pisces). But I have no problems with speech. Having come across this topic, now I am curious about my own case. Can someone shed some light on this ? 21/3/75, 5:5am Ajmer, Male.

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Nitin21

Thanks Tanivi. Appreciate your inputs. You are right about the parivaratana and its effects. However, I am just curious from a second house perspective because it is known to be Karaka house for speech. I should be having some difficulties in speaking from an astrological perspective. I am thinking and it looks like the stronger of the second lord and Mercury might decide upon karakatwa for speech. And in my case it is mercury that is stronger, so i do not stammer etc inspite of 2nd lord jupiter being completely combust. Although I maybe wrong.

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tanivi wrote:Hi Astrosonu,

It is because of the parivartan yoga between ascendant and 5th lords, Shani and Buddha resp.
Mercury in the ascndnt. gives you clear thinking and a sharp intelligence, and speech is nothing but it's outward form; putting those thoughts into words.
Writing is it's other twin.
Notice that because of those signs and their lordships, especially Aquarius being a mystical sign in lagna, you happen to devote much of your time , thought ( intelligence - 5th house) and energy to such subjects as astrology etc.

T
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Taniviji - I will present my logic behind combustion. Please correct me if I am wrong. I am open to suggestions.

Any planet gains strength when it is not overpowered by anyone else. Sun is the strongest in the form of cosmic rays affluence on the brahmand. Whenever, a planet is far from it, its own cosmic energy is felt, which is then manifested into an individual. Soon as the Sun nears it, its own rays start getting obscured in the higher energy of Sun. So, the Sun starts shedding its own rays on the top of the planet it is nearing to. As it keeps on nearing it, the planetary rays start getting diminishing and when the degrees are the same, none of the rays of the planet being obscured are able to circumvent the cosmic energy of the Sun.

Under these circumstances, the planet whose rays are obscured becomes frustrated because, by its nature it is trying to do something either good or bad for the native as per the chart, but cannot do it because of Sun. It can neither fight with Sun because Sun is the king. Now, the question is if the planetary cosmic energy is completely shut out, how can it give either external or internal significations.

Logically, if we say that only external significations are subdued due to combustion, we mean that somehow planet is able to influence us internally inspite of combustion. But when its rays are completely subdued by Sun, how do we get its effect internally also ? There cannot be a distinguishing factor of internal and external significance with regards to this because both factors are dependent on how good the planet is able to shower its cosmic rays on the individual. And during combustion, it cannot.

However, I have seen that inspite of combustion, people do get good results during the dasha of combust planet. And my observation has been ( in sync with the BPHS and other texts) that it is not the combust planet that benefits the native, but the other planets that aspect that house OR are situated in that house and are not part of combustion. This has a lot to do with Bhava bala of the house, which is computed differently. The benefits can be easily distinguished by the types that the native gets during such dasha. One of the examples can be

1. A deeply combust mars with Sun in Leo. The native may still be fearless and daring inspite of mars being combust. That is because Sun also is a signifcator of fearlessness and being in Leo its own house with some planetary strength may make an individual absolutely fearless and dominating. If this combination is in 4th house, he may still have lots of properties owing to strength of Sun because 4th house significations come into picture. We cannot construe here that although Mars is combust, it gave the native lot of real estate.

My humble two cents. I stand to be corrected and educated by the esteemed learned members here. I am still learning too.

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Sonu
tanivi wrote:Combustion may have more to do with external/materialistic/worldly factors and pursuits, and less with what is soul associated.
Sun does happen to represent ego and seeks satisfaction from all things material.

So that is why the blemish is probably on the individual wrt his ego satisfaction.
The intelligence associated with soul ; spirituality is an example, may be free of it.

Just a thought.
T
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Can we also look at combustion this way?

A combust planet gets obscured by Sun and becomes invisible despite being present. It may be logical to expect that the effects of the planet are there but latent (e.g, native may be capable of speaking very well but is perceived to be a poor speaker).

As for the negative effects, may be they will show up due to Su's natural karakatwa (e.g, father of the native is such a strong personality that the native gets overshadowed) or lordship (for Sc lagna if Ma is combust, may be the native's health suffers due to problems associated with work/career)
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There is a difference here. The planet itself does not become invisible. The scenario you mentioned is possible astronomically and not astrologically. In astrological sense we perceive the energy as the cosmic one and not the physical one. Our texts clearly state that astronomy and astrology need to be perceived separately, although they are connected.

I agree with the second part partially though and that's what happens during combustion. I faced the situation during entire Guru MD. Sun is also my 7th lord so it also means karaka for affairs, relationships, agreements etc. These all suffered during Guru MD for me. But when we say negative effects, it does not mean that the planet being combust starts giving contrary results to its karakatwa or lordship. It merely does not fulfill its potential of providing the benefits that it should have, if it was not combust.
lovacrs wrote:Can we also look at combustion this way?

A combust planet gets obscured by Sun and becomes invisible despite being present. It may be logical to expect that the effects of the planet are there but latent (e.g, native may be capable of speaking very well but is perceived to be a poor speaker).

As for the negative effects, may be they will show up due to Su's natural karakatwa (e.g, father of the native is such a strong personality that the native gets overshadowed) or lordship (for Sc lagna if Ma is combust, may be the native's health suffers due to problems associated with work/career)
Nitin21

Dear Sunil,

Thanks for your kind inputs. You are right with respect to the rules you mentioned. But there are certain exceptions in my chart which IMO are as below:

1. Jupiter is a maraka for Aquarius lagna but it is posited in its own house. So, it does not become a malefic either for 2nd or 11th.

2. Jupiter in Pisces in 2nd house with Purnachandra status of Amsa balas in Shodashvarga Schemes is supposed to give some extremely good results.

If Jupiter was anywhere else, then the dictum of Jupiter being malefic for Aquarius lagna woould have been applied for sure. BPHS is very clear about some of the basics. Any planet in its own house or mooltrikona sheds its maleficence. There are other rules too but for the sake of my own chart, I am putting these two here.

3. Saturn is not a malefic here being lagna lord. It is neutral being in a trine.

4. Mercury is again a neutral because it owns a trine and is placed in lagna. Infact mercury can also be termed as a benefic because it is not in conjunction or aspect with any malefic in the chart and it is Rasi lord also.

5. Mars is exalted but not in deep exaltation, so it is afflicted. But since it is exalted, it does give me umpteen opportunities in my career. And being in 12th house, it creates opportunities associated with foreign lands. But yes you are right, Mars is still troublesome. I have observed that whenever I remember Shri Hanumanji i get extreme good benefits and my soul is at peace. If you see Mars is my AK too. So there is a healthy mix of beneficial and malefic properties in Mars for me.

The best yoga IMO is just about to start in next 12 days. That is Pushkala yoga .. a parivartaran yoga between Lagnesh and Rasi lord. which is also 1st and 5th lord. And these two are also friends to each other. If you observe closely, it is also a good yoga from Arudha Lagna as Mercury is 5th from AL and Saturn placed 9th from AL. So, even from AL it is 5,9 exchange.

God has been ever merciful on me. Even in my difficult times, whenever I prayed the almighty was around me to help. I am very lucky as he has never left me in darkness all alone.

Please feel free to correct me where ever I have understood wrong.

Regards
Sonu




sunil wrote:Dear Astrosonu
I am almost a layman as far as knowledge of astrology is concerned but being aquarius lagna i have a few points: BV Raman ascribes stammering and dumbness to the debilitated 2nd lord in either 2nd or 8th house with malefic planets. Combination of 7th and 2nd lord may also mean wealth from father in law side. But saturn's 10th aspect is the cause of restriction in the chart. Strong 3rd house lord ( mars exalted in 12th house) indicates command over language and communication and literary capabilities. Additionally, You have 5th and 8th lord in lagna that is clearly reflected in your writing skills and craving for indpeth understanding and also supported by strong 3rd house. I read this article by Nitin Kashyap on aquarius lagna who says strong third house creaets its own difficulties as Mars being Saturn's staunch enemy plus due to house delineation system but basic strength will be there always.
You mentioned about difficult Jupiter period. According to Parashara 11th lord is a functional malefic for this lagna that may be the reason. Further more there was a post in the forum about the non applicability of yogas for aquarius lagna. The reason is that most of the benfic planets are functional malefic i.e mer owns 8th and saturn owns 12th and yogkaraka Venus is bhadak for the lagna so in a way all good houses and planets gets nullified or get reducted in terms of giving results as per their bhavas.
I hope this makes a sense, i just penned down my thoughts.
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sunil
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Dear Sunil,

The answers to your questions are as below:

1. Jupiter in 11th in Sagittarus should give you financial gains during such gochar transit. Not a malefic at all.
2. Lagna lord and Yogakaraka is never malefic. Otherwise, All Aquarius, Scorpio, Aries, Libra and Tauras lagna lords would be malefic, as they also occupy dusthanas.
3. Mercury with malefics is a malefic. Here in Rahu's company it becomes malefic.

Please share your birth details for proper analysis.

Regards
Sonu
sunil wrote:Dear Astrosonu
thanks for putting things in right perspective for me to learn. Just few more points that would help me to understand my chart better. If Jup is placed in 11th in Saggitarius, are there any other rules applicable or as you said Jup by being in its mooltrikona sign would be considered shedding its maleficence? Secondly if lagna and rashi lords both are Saturn (moon being placed in Capricon), you think its lagna lordship would prevail, in other words, would this be considered as benefic only being lagna lord? I have the same question about mercury, as both your planets (Sat & Mer) occupy trine house at the same. If mer is with rahu and sun in leo, will it be neutral or should it be considered afflicted and therefore unable to give benefic results? I have Mars ( atmakaraka) placed in 4th house and has not been easy so far. Sorry to ask so many questions.
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sunil
Nitin21

Dear Sunil,

I did receive your msg. Please give me some time. I am travelling hectic.

Regards
Sonu
sunil wrote:Dear Astrosonu
I have sent you a PM. This thread is getting longer and mixed up. Please reply.
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Dear astroboy and others,

My niece has Gaja Kesari yoga and a combust lagna lord. Can any of you mention whether combust mercury destroys the yoga?
What can be the negative effects of combust Me?

Date of birth - 10th May 1987, Place - Bangalore Time - 8:41:23

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