exalted/debiltated planet getting combust

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Nitin21

All combust planets except mercury yield bad results in its dasha. When a planet is combust all beneficial effects like exaltation etc are nullified. Neither Shadbala nor ashtakvarga points will benefit the native. The closer it is to Sun the more negative the results.
Nitin21

Ninaji,

I am yet to come across a text that praises combustion in any way. All the yogas in BPHs specifically mention that if the planet is combust the benefits will not be derived. The only place where I can see combustion working good is in 6,8 and 12, because of obvious reasons.

The only way to neutralise effects of combustion IMO is to appease Lord Shiva throughout the Mahadasha/Antardasha of the combust planet. This is because Sun represents Lord Shiva and during combustion, Sun becomes Krura graha making the combust planet Kopi(angry). So, if Sun is appeased, the effects are seen in the combust planet as well.

I dont have Einsteins birth data, so if you can kindly post here, I can have a look.

Regards
Sonu
Nitin21

Ninaji,

For us to override things written in classics with what mordern astrologers provide, we need some basis, like sample charts. If you have some charts based on which you have learned from some people, I would be happy to discuss. Ninaji, the unmutilated versions have all the descriptions. Transilerated ones do have some issues, based on which people think that the classics are hyperbolic or not too descriptive.

In any case, I don't just take classics as they are. There is a logic behind the texts and I try to capture that. Which is what i explained in the earlier post.

BTW, please provide me Einsteins data. Although, I don't think there will be an accurate time of him anywhere. But, I just want to get a bigger glimpse.

You can check my horoscope too. Jupiter is combust. 21/3/75, 5:5am, Ajmer, Male. Please let me know your views.

Regards
Sonu
Nitin21

Einstein did not live long enough to encounter combust saturn dasha.
nina wrote:Hello Astrosnu

I think my answer lies in an old thread that someone just brought up - called Combustion by Mandira. There Paul Vaughn explains the role of combustion with the example of Oprah.
Einstein's chart must be very reliable because it's often quoted as an example chart. Go to AstroDatabank. That's a good site for collecting birth details data.
That's all I have to say. :wink:
Nitin21

Mr. Vaughan Paul has clearly stated in that thread that it is owing to other beneficial aspects.
nina wrote:
astrosonu wrote:Einstein did not live long enough to encounter combust saturn dasha.

Ok. But Oprah did !
Nitin21

The other factors have to be other planet aspects, occupation of the same house as combust planet, etc etc.

A combust planet having any other factors like exaltation, shadbala, any front and back degrees etc. about itself will not help. That's what the discussion was about combust planets. It is obvious that if any other benefic planet is aspecting the house where combust planet resides, it will produce its own effects. It does not nullify the effects of combustion. Combustion effects still prevail. Atleast that's what I have learnt from my sources.
lnmurthy9

For remedy of asthangatha planet,remedy told by sonuji will work.If the planet in asthangatha(combustion in vedic astrology) is mercury,worshipping lord shiva on wednesdays will avoid unfavourable results from mercury.
Nitin21

pl share your birth details.
prspum wrote:dear experts,

its not to offend any one all r learned astrologer but experts r talking too much negative about combust planet. let us find out what classicals have written about combust planet they have not written that planet has burnt up rather they have used word ''Asta" means it has set like sun set every evening. word of using combustion is wrong as even if a planet goes behind sun with respect to the earth it always maintains its distance from sun in its orbit so where is question of combustion. i dont subscribe to the very idea of asta planet will give bad result in all areas during its dasha. I am gemini lagna person and have 4 planets in 4rth house jupiter(23 degree. mars 23degree and few minutes, mercury exalted 24 degree and sun 29 degree and few minutes). mercury period was very fritful for me during this period completed my engineering course, got job, got married, had two sons and finally during mer-mars priod got a job in Ministry a gazetted post in mer-sat joined a big public sector company. at present i am serving my company in the capacity as general manger. every time i find that mars prayantar and antar dasa is helping me . Mer- Jupiter had given me my second son. i joined engineering course during sat-Jup. so mars is giving result jupiter is giving result mercury period was best. so learned expert may like to throw some light on it. My wife represented by combusted jupiter is a fantastc person she is higly educated, homely beautiful woman blessed with two kids. she is enjoying all comforts of life. Mars representing my income, elder brother, enemies , debt etc has never created any problem. i have a elder brother working in central govt. job, my income level has always been good, i am considered as very bold officer in my department, i never accept defeat on any matter rather my enemies find themselves in trouble.

in this thread ninaji had pointed out case of winfrey oparah discussed by vaughan paulji (march 2006), in her case 10th lord venus is asta within the orb of one degree she was professionally very successful lady however she could not get married.

therefore there is need for research on the subject before someone gives sweeping remarks that asta planet will not give any result. i personally consider if a planet is strong like exalted, mool trikona own house etc aspected or conjected with benefic combustion is not going to have much effect. but certainly it causes some difficulty in the some of significance of planet and this requires a systematic study of nos of chart wherin planets are combusted.

prspum
lnmurthy9

prspumji,
Even i am also interested to see your chart.please share it
Nitin21

Prspumji,

While you provide us the details. I would like to mention that I have cited that all planets EXCEPT mercury yield bad results in their periods. So Combust Mercury giving you fruits is acceptable. Regarding rest of planets, we need to see your chart. If you understand carefully a combust planet yeilds bad results infers to the thing that it will yield bad effects. So, if there is a malefic in your 4th house and combust, then obviously it is going to give good results because combustion has shut its maleficence too. In short the planet cannot give its own protection. So effectively with combustion of a malefic planet, Sun has overshadowed its rays and thus preventing you from problems and thus good results coming to surface.

When you say exalted mercury in 4th means it is house no 6 as virgo. So your lagna is Gemini. Mars for gemini is 6th lord and 6th lord in 4th can give you home related unhapiness which looks like has been overcome by combustion here.

Regarding wife, depends on what is your kalatrakaraka. It is not always the 7th lord. It is stronger of Darakaraka, 7th lord and 7th navamsa.

Regards
Sonu
Nitin21

Look at Vimsopaka bala strength of the planet amongst DK Moon, 7th Lord Jupiter and 7th Navamsa Lord Venus. Moon exceeds the strength by being 14.1. Hence kalatrakaraka is moon.

So for married life effects consider moon and its placements etc. No wonder you have a beautiful wife with Moon vargottama and in own house. Moon signifies beauty. Moon is also parvatamsa a very good state in shadvarga scheme. Look at your ashtakvarga score of where moon is placed. 41.. its too good mate. Your wife is very lucky and good for you. So your wife's qualities are owing to Moon and not jupiter. Hence jupiter combustion results that you mentioned for her are not applicable here.

Regarding your best income, job etc. are also related to Moon as Moon has a good strength and is also responsible for your Financial status, family, and accumulated wealth. You would also be a good orator I guess with such moon strength in 2nd.

The power, position etc is due to your Sun's placement as vargottama again and aspecting your 10th house in Rasi chart. Good professional status is also due to Mercury as Amatyakaraka. MErcury is exalted and even in combustion mercury is supposed to provide good results in its MD. Moreover these two are aspecting your 10th house. You getting into Govt job is also due to strong Sun. This was inevitable.

You said your enemies are always crushed and they cannot win against you. This is also owing to Mars combustion. Mars as 6th lord has been subdued by Sun the symbol of power and authority. How are the enemies supposed to stand against you when your 6th lord is so weak by combustion.

You will never have problems with combusted planets because Mars MD starts late in life. Jupiter MD is already passed in childhood. Your combustion effects are also not that bad and worrying because the closeness to Sun is not so much. Therefore even though the planets are combust, the maximum damage is not done. But the results are modified to not give you complete results.

If you look at my chart Sun is 7 degrees and Jup-6degrees. I went through hell in Jupiter mahadasha although it is Purnachandra status in Shodashvarga and placed in own 2nd house in Rasi Chart. Just to put a note, my observations on combustion are not based on my own chart. Every statement in BPHS whenever it states any benefic effects of planets, it always states clauses like "when not in debiliation and combustion and not in dusthanas" etc. This is evidently a significant statement in scriptures too.

Rest of your effects I already mentioned above.

Hope this helps in your understanding.

Kindly let me know, What is the status of you possessing landed properties in your name ?

prspum wrote:dear sonuji and murthyji,
dob-16th october 1957
Tob- 22.38.00 corrected by me as per kundali it is 22.35)
pob_Patna "(bihar)

my darakataka is moon placed in own house karka and vergottama. 7th lord jupiter is exalted in navamsha and placed with moon in own house and mars 7th lord of navamsha. married during mer-mo-jup.

about mars giving good result i feel that mars being 6th and 11lth lord will certainly give result as it is hemmed in between super benefic jupiter and exalted murcury otherside. in good company bad persons may also start doing good deeds. dob of son 5th jan 1988. second son 24 nov,1991. govt job 29th feb 1988, psu job 1 nov 1994, father died 16 june 1994, mother died 29th june 2004. purchased property during june 2000. car- 3.10.1995 second car 15th july 2009. hope information is enough. recently i am hoping for a transfer to home town delhi whether same will happen or not. i myself has reserached on this area a lot now i seek advice of experts.

thanx in advance

prspum
Nitin21

prspmji,

Kindly check further pratyantars in case of combust planet antaras. in the same antara of combust planets there will be too many fluctuations and variations in situations. This is because since the antara planet is combust pratyantar dasha planets results predominate.

Regard
sonu
lnmurthy9

dear prspumji,
I also have similar understanding regarding mars(6th and 11th lord),i add one more point here mars is defeated by lagna lord mercury in grahayudda which is also helping you to overcome your enemies.Coming to spouse,in navamsa lagna lord venus is placed in 7th house receiving aspect from jupiter so definitely she will be beautiful.And among all planet sun is enjoying the strength in your chart which gave u public sector related services and even good knowledge in astrology.
Coming to current period venus Mahadasha,he is lord of 5th and 12th houses he is also in vargottama indicating his strength.Here venus is involved in viparitha rajayoga since he is in conjunct with 8th and 9th lord saturn,lord of 2nd house and 12th houses always depends on dispositor who is 6th and 11th lord(mars).So this venus being a functional benefic with wrong placement did not trouble you that much.You are very practical man generally.


I will come with answer for your question about hometown shift,please give me some time.
lnmurthy9

dear prspumji,
Mercury is in chitra-1 and mars is in hastha-4 so grahayudha will not apply just by seeing degrees in your post i felt like that.saturn and venus are lords of fifth and ninth houses and here ninth lordship for saturn makes him functional malefic so his placement in sixth is a good one.But for venus fifth lordship is good makes him functional benefic and he can treated as a poorna subha so when placed in 1,5 and 9 houses can give you most beneficial results for gemini lagna.
In your chart,venus is in 6th house so he cannot give favourable results with his fifth house lordship i dont mean he will do bad,but since he is placed in 6th house,he will lose some of his functional benefic nature in dusthana.Supporting his 12th lordship saturn conjunct made him to operate in viparitha rajayoga.Here 5th,9th lords conjunction is saving the venus's significations and lordships bcoz saturn is 8th lord and 9th lord too.5th and 9th lordships conjuctions will work well in kendras(1,4,7,10) and konas(1,5,9).
5th lordship is professional related issues,placed in 6th house enemies related with professional envronment and 12th lordship makes expenditure concerned with them.I mean it can be minor or major expenditure will be there someway bcoz of your enemies.

shortly i will come that transfer related answer,plz giv me time.
lnmurthy9

dear prspumji,
Have you got any prediction related with dec81 dob chart?Please let me know if any.
lnmurthy9

Dear prspumji,
I feel venus/jup is the favourable period for transfer to hometown,your mercury lord of fourth exalted makes you to go back to your hometown generally.Mercury in that fourth house also makes you to stick to your own culture,motherland.But there malefics like mars and sun in that house that made you work out of your place.Jupiter is 7th lord(4th from 4th) got defeated by mars in grahayudda so this is also one of the cause that you work out of your place.Here sun/mer authority works well since they are good friends generally.Currently are you involved in any real estate business?asking with general curiosity.venus/sat can give you one more vehicle if u r interested.
lnmurthy9

dear prspumji,
Even I also wanted to study verga charts,can u please provide me link related to them.
lnmurthy9

dear prspumji,
mercury being lagna and fourth lord should keep you in homeland.But things are different here quite interesting and thanks for providing that info i will go though it.mer/mars can change the place,mer/sun can change the place.Anyway i will come with refined analysis.
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lnmurthy9

dear prspumji,
Thank u for giving those hints,i am working on it.Please give me time.
Nitin21

Jhora does not show combustion if the combust planet is not in the same nakshatra pada. For combustion it is the proximity to the sun that dominates the result of the Kopa planet. Farther from Sun the results start getting better but not full. The full results are obtained only after it crosses the mentioned degree upto which the planet gets combust.

When I look at Prspumji's chart, I believe he should have had plenty of landed properties and bunglows with Jupiter and Mars both being in 4th house. He will still have properties because of Sun and Mercury(Exalted) but not really to the promise that 4 planets in the 4th house provides, because two of them are combust, although not completely combust, as there is a little bit of degrees difference.

Regarding Transfer, it can happen only after the d-4 lagna lord Jupiter releases its sight on 4th house via 5th aspect. This is actually protecting from transfer. After May 2nd, It will only be malefic Saturn aspecting 4th house in D-4 via 10th aspect. Hence the news can be expected. After May 26th the possibility increases more because the retrograde Sat becomes direct and starts giving stable gochar results.

Regards
Sonu
Nitin21

yes. True. i have not taken venus into consideration except from dasha perspective. My pred is based on gochar transit of sat and jup
prspum wrote:thanks astrosonuji.

my mahadasha lord venus is very fast moving planet so pinpointing its movement in d-4 may not be advisable.

prspum
lnmurthy9

dear prspumji,
In d-4 chart,jup and mars are conjunct in lagna where jup is lagna lord indicating ur hometown so jupiter is the planet which can take you to hometown.mars also conjunct which shows that he also supports jupiter for hometown transfer eventhough he was not supporting this factor in main chart.Coming to planets in fourth house mer and sun in d-4,mercury is in his own house indicating strong will to go to your own place.Here mercury aspected by mars which is not good for bhava strength since they are enemies by nature so mer/mar/ven gave transfer.moon and venus are aspected by saturn in d-4.
venus/jup/mer also indicates transfer to hometown but again venus/sat can make move out of your place or switching from your place to work place according to d-4.
So i feel by the time you reach venus/mer you will be in your hometown.
lnmurthy9

prspumji,
have you got any interpretation of the chart i shared with you?
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:) Namaskar respected sirs,

My birth detail DOB- 28 aug 1978, TOB- 00-10-15 AM, POB- Surat ( Gujarat ) India.

In my chart tauras asc. saturn is yogakaraka for tauras asc. L9 & L10. saturn is combust in leo with sun in moolatrikona rasi.
Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon):

Sat MD: 2013-02-09 (2:16:40) - 2032-02-09 (23:07:02)

Antardasas in this MD:

Sat: 2013-02-09 (2:16:40) - 2016-02-12 (19:49:02)
Merc: 2016-02-12 (19:49:02) - 2018-10-26 (1:04:41)
Ket: 2018-10-26 (1:04:41) - 2019-12-04 (1:24:15)
Ven: 2019-12-04 (1:24:15) - 2023-01-31 (18:52:38)
Sun: 2023-01-31 (18:52:38) - 2024-01-14 (8:15:24)
Moon: 2024-01-14 (8:15:24) - 2025-08-16 (6:18:27)
Mars: 2025-08-16 (6:18:27) - 2026-09-25 (17:38:37)
Rah: 2026-09-25 (17:38:37) - 2029-07-31 (15:32:26)
Jup: 2029-07-31 (15:32:26) - 2032-02-09 (23:07:02)

What will be the result of this combust saturn M.D. :?: kiran.
lnmurthy9

kiranji,
In your chart,saturn is combust in leo.Leo is not a pleasant sign to saturn and leo lord conjunct with saturn not reducing yoga since sun is 4th lord.Saturn is individually raja yoga planet in navamsha also and in navamsha he is in cancer conjunct with sun(functional benefic) and mars(functional benefic)in 3rd house,all are natural malefics and as well as functional benefics so it is good.In d-10,saturn is malefic associated with sun another malefic forming a viparitha rajayoga in 6th house.So this combination in d-10 indicates overcoming obstacles in career and getting success(since he is benefic in rashi chart).Overall saturn gives success after overcoming obstacles from your career point of view.

combustion of that saturn will have some bad impact,so better pray lord shiva on saturdays.
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