Veda, if I am not a participant in this exercise, how I am giving my views on your posted KAS-analysis? Is it not a sign of participation? If you say no for it then you Pl brief your rules here for me and others too.
Joyd
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shaktichalini
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Well my view is that whoever wants to comment on this chart is free to comment...in a detailed way or just the final events seen in the chart. I think Firstly it should be only the Concrete Events/final outcome wrt the analysis....and not the Detailed one because it Might effect others 'way of analysis'.
And when on tuesday or whatever day the 'real events' concerning the chart is given then the person whose analysis matched the real events(and others too who were unable) should give the way they analysed the chart....because then we can see where someone went wrong and right....and this will help in unbiased analysis.
And I think after tuesday case is closed. Only Concern with your analysis at this point and after the result 'do anything'. Its not the astrological olympic goin on. Even BV Raman, KN Rao were faced with wrong analysis....no one is varahmihir or bhrigu here
.Everyone is a talent here and have his way of approach. It might be wrong or right but trying only for the sake of astrology and not for the sake of himself is the right approach.
Take care.
And when on tuesday or whatever day the 'real events' concerning the chart is given then the person whose analysis matched the real events(and others too who were unable) should give the way they analysed the chart....because then we can see where someone went wrong and right....and this will help in unbiased analysis.
And I think after tuesday case is closed. Only Concern with your analysis at this point and after the result 'do anything'. Its not the astrological olympic goin on. Even BV Raman, KN Rao were faced with wrong analysis....no one is varahmihir or bhrigu here
.Everyone is a talent here and have his way of approach. It might be wrong or right but trying only for the sake of astrology and not for the sake of himself is the right approach.Take care.
Who am I to brief rules for the groupjoyd wrote: 05 Aug 2018 Veda, if I am not a participant in this exercise, how I am giving my views on your posted KAS-analysis? Is it not a sign of participation? If you say no for it then you Pl brief your rules here for me and others too.
Joyd
It would be good if things are constructive. One may be proficient in something other may be in another. I agree with s.c. that provide the events based on your analysis,then when things are revealed the way they are in reality then discussions may follow. If someone is off the limits in the way they predicted(along with analysis),others may provide additional info why they missed there. Because the approach may be right but may be they missed something. It would help both in the end.
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vedicmaths
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hello lovacrs,
Welcome lovacrs.. long time no see !
i request some more members to participate.
truly yours,
vedicmaths
Welcome lovacrs.. long time no see !
i request some more members to participate.
truly yours,
vedicmaths
Thanks! Could not resist the temptation to err!vedicmaths wrote: 05 Aug 2018 hello lovacrs,
Welcome lovacrs.. long time no see !
i request some more members to participate.
truly yours,
vedicmaths
LOVACRS
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joyd
one has to check the 2 basic points in this chart.1-wether chart shows the promise 2-the KS falls in proper signs.
joyd.
joyd.
The chart is showing denial of children.
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If you have the right knowledge, EXACT predictions can be made. Astrology is an incredible tool for guidance, and one should take note of the energies of changing dasha lords.
If you have the right knowledge, EXACT predictions can be made. Astrology is an incredible tool for guidance, and one should take note of the energies of changing dasha lords.
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khetra sphuta [KS] in D1-D9-D7 falls in right signs and also native has a desire to have progeny.But no kids why ,the following are the reasons../
1-THE 5TH LORD mercury in barren sign with another barren sign leo lord sun.
2-The ruler of semen venus is also in a barren sign.It denotes partners inability to impregnate her.
3-In navamsa both jupiter-mercury are in semi-barren sign Capricorn.
4-venus in navamsa chart in barren sign.
5-Mantra pada doubly afflicted.
6-In navamsa the lord of mother hood sun under malefic aspects.
7-In rasi,the 9th house of vamsa vrudhhi under mars aspect.
8-In navamsa the 9th lord afflicted.
9-In BAV charts,mercury with 3 bindus more malefic for progeny matters,9th lord Saturn with 1 bindu[in semi barren Capricorn],mars is malefic with 2 bindus,jupiter is [natural karak for progeny]is neutral with 4 bindus.
10-In saptamsa chart venus in barren sign and in 7th.such venus BECOMES the 9th lord for D7
11-In D7-both 5th house and 5th lord under affliction.
12-In SAV cahrts,both 5th and 9th houses are weak due to less points.
13-In D-7 ,the mantra pada[A5] tripley afflicted.
14-saptamsas 9th house afflicted..
15-woman is treated as shakthi in our vedic literature.It means,she has the power to continue her husbands Gotra lineage.Mans gotra never changes but womans after marriage.At the same time,she has to continue her husbands gotra by giving/producing progeny.check her second house from natal lagna. Rahu placed[obstructer of gotra vrudhhi].Hence no progeny.
16-The 5th and 9th house are with low points in SAV chart...
JOYD.
1-THE 5TH LORD mercury in barren sign with another barren sign leo lord sun.
2-The ruler of semen venus is also in a barren sign.It denotes partners inability to impregnate her.
3-In navamsa both jupiter-mercury are in semi-barren sign Capricorn.
4-venus in navamsa chart in barren sign.
5-Mantra pada doubly afflicted.
6-In navamsa the lord of mother hood sun under malefic aspects.
7-In rasi,the 9th house of vamsa vrudhhi under mars aspect.
8-In navamsa the 9th lord afflicted.
9-In BAV charts,mercury with 3 bindus more malefic for progeny matters,9th lord Saturn with 1 bindu[in semi barren Capricorn],mars is malefic with 2 bindus,jupiter is [natural karak for progeny]is neutral with 4 bindus.
10-In saptamsa chart venus in barren sign and in 7th.such venus BECOMES the 9th lord for D7
11-In D7-both 5th house and 5th lord under affliction.
12-In SAV cahrts,both 5th and 9th houses are weak due to less points.
13-In D-7 ,the mantra pada[A5] tripley afflicted.
14-saptamsas 9th house afflicted..
15-woman is treated as shakthi in our vedic literature.It means,she has the power to continue her husbands Gotra lineage.Mans gotra never changes but womans after marriage.At the same time,she has to continue her husbands gotra by giving/producing progeny.check her second house from natal lagna. Rahu placed[obstructer of gotra vrudhhi].Hence no progeny.
16-The 5th and 9th house are with low points in SAV chart...
JOYD.
Mine pointers to the chart is follows .
Dob 30 SEP 1964 tob 22.00 ( corrected to 22.10 ) female 11N 45 75E 29 asc 18Ta 53 .
Marriage
There is sat and jup delay .Venus to sun distance more than 43 degrees sat aspecting moon in D9 sat aspecting Venus in D1 .6th lord Venus in 4th .lagna lord and 7th lord from lagna moon Mars were in 2:12 and 6:8 .with all the above aspects happiness from marriage is less .so marriage occurred in Mars antardasa ( 31-10-1990) .
Death of husband 10-11-2012
Husband death is to be seen from second house.
At that time mercury antardasa is running who is lord of second .it seems death occurred due to accident or heart attack . (Confirmation of death whether accident or heart attack is appreciated)
CHILDREN
Since happiness from marriage is less chances of birth of children is difficult .
For women birth of children is seen from 11th and 8th and for men 5th and 8tth house .taking 11th house as lagna Venus is lord of 8th ( karaka house) .and it is located in leo in D7 .which is 6th house.the lord sun is aspecting 11 th house in rasi chart .lagna lord is again Venus which is located in leo .in D7 chart .
With all the above it is difficult for the native to have birth of children.
Further the Venus the sixth lord is in the 4th house .Mars is in cancer sign.which is 3rd house.and moon is afflicted by Mars and rahu is aspecting moon .the 4th lord and 8th lord were having less points in 5th and 11 th houses ,so chances of child birth reduced.jup is in lagna and it is maleficallly aspecting fifth house .
With all the above points i think there is no child birth to the native .
Dob 30 SEP 1964 tob 22.00 ( corrected to 22.10 ) female 11N 45 75E 29 asc 18Ta 53 .
Marriage
There is sat and jup delay .Venus to sun distance more than 43 degrees sat aspecting moon in D9 sat aspecting Venus in D1 .6th lord Venus in 4th .lagna lord and 7th lord from lagna moon Mars were in 2:12 and 6:8 .with all the above aspects happiness from marriage is less .so marriage occurred in Mars antardasa ( 31-10-1990) .
Death of husband 10-11-2012
Husband death is to be seen from second house.
At that time mercury antardasa is running who is lord of second .it seems death occurred due to accident or heart attack . (Confirmation of death whether accident or heart attack is appreciated)
CHILDREN
Since happiness from marriage is less chances of birth of children is difficult .
For women birth of children is seen from 11th and 8th and for men 5th and 8tth house .taking 11th house as lagna Venus is lord of 8th ( karaka house) .and it is located in leo in D7 .which is 6th house.the lord sun is aspecting 11 th house in rasi chart .lagna lord is again Venus which is located in leo .in D7 chart .
With all the above it is difficult for the native to have birth of children.
Further the Venus the sixth lord is in the 4th house .Mars is in cancer sign.which is 3rd house.and moon is afflicted by Mars and rahu is aspecting moon .the 4th lord and 8th lord were having less points in 5th and 11 th houses ,so chances of child birth reduced.jup is in lagna and it is maleficallly aspecting fifth house .
With all the above points i think there is no child birth to the native .
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hello vedam33,
husband did not pass away because of accident.
truly yours,
vedicmaths
husband did not pass away because of accident.
truly yours,
vedicmaths
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shaktichalini
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I think it was due to brain hemorrhage...will give analysis tonight.
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Children can be seen from fifth,seventh,ninth. Also frm 5th from 7th that is 11th.Mars and moon also be seen in womens kundali wrt childrens.
Fifth here have sun and mercury. Mercury here is said to deny progeny also sun is said the same result but if only sun is in purush rashi. And here sun is in stri rashi therefore have the ability of progeny for the native. If 2nd lord is in the 5th and 5th lord in his own house it gives many children but half of them dies finally. Also since Rahu is positioned in 2nd house and affecting mercury it means death of progeny or problems in conceiving. Lagna lord Venus in 4th signifies birth of daughter but ve in nakshatra of ke and aspected by retro sa signifies inhibition. Overall it seems there might have been conception many times and it seems the first may be a daughter with ve in 4th,ju aspecting su,me both in stree rashi,also ma,mo in stree rashi aspecting 9th. But the aspect of sa,me acting like ra,7th aspected by sa,ju acting like ke....lead to death of first born(may b female). Sole son that may have survived was due to su in moon nakshatra in 5th.
From moon kundali 5th lord is with moon in lagna and 5th is aspected by Ju in su nakshatra.
But presence of mo and ma in sa nakshatra and ju acting like ke would be problemetic for the child born.
Lastly I think progeny is not denied but Happiness from progeny is affected.
There might have been conception but the surviving aspect is dull. May be 1 son and others couldn't make it. The analysis is a bit hodge podge. If it is correct(i doubt) then the dates I told before might be analysed. If its total 100%,top to bottom incorrect then you know....the Word novice.
For the husband if died of brain hemorrhage then I would analyse...if not...you know the word.
Fifth here have sun and mercury. Mercury here is said to deny progeny also sun is said the same result but if only sun is in purush rashi. And here sun is in stri rashi therefore have the ability of progeny for the native. If 2nd lord is in the 5th and 5th lord in his own house it gives many children but half of them dies finally. Also since Rahu is positioned in 2nd house and affecting mercury it means death of progeny or problems in conceiving. Lagna lord Venus in 4th signifies birth of daughter but ve in nakshatra of ke and aspected by retro sa signifies inhibition. Overall it seems there might have been conception many times and it seems the first may be a daughter with ve in 4th,ju aspecting su,me both in stree rashi,also ma,mo in stree rashi aspecting 9th. But the aspect of sa,me acting like ra,7th aspected by sa,ju acting like ke....lead to death of first born(may b female). Sole son that may have survived was due to su in moon nakshatra in 5th.
From moon kundali 5th lord is with moon in lagna and 5th is aspected by Ju in su nakshatra.
But presence of mo and ma in sa nakshatra and ju acting like ke would be problemetic for the child born.
Lastly I think progeny is not denied but Happiness from progeny is affected.
There might have been conception but the surviving aspect is dull. May be 1 son and others couldn't make it. The analysis is a bit hodge podge. If it is correct(i doubt) then the dates I told before might be analysed. If its total 100%,top to bottom incorrect then you know....the Word novice.
For the husband if died of brain hemorrhage then I would analyse...if not...you know the word.
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contd.
also in 2015 and around, the transit with sa transiting the lowest points in sav and unfavourable dasha was unfavourable for the native. I don't want to use the word but it was not good for her life. Again its just the analysis, dont take otherwise.
Take care
also in 2015 and around, the transit with sa transiting the lowest points in sav and unfavourable dasha was unfavourable for the native. I don't want to use the word but it was not good for her life. Again its just the analysis, dont take otherwise.
Take care
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hello all,
Thanks for participating.
She gave birth to a male child on 14-Oct-1991.
She aborted a few times after this birth of male child willfully.
She wanted to avoid a big family. Hence , she can be considered very fertile.
Her son got married just a month ago.
Forum member , who did not want to post in the thread , sent me a
PM and his answer was close. This is what he wrote,,,..
Quote:
According to me... the given birth time is not accurate. If I try to rectify it... it changes the ascendant.
However with the given birth time... the child birth might have happen in Ketu-Mars-Mercury interlocking period. Ideally it could have happen between 28th april 1992 to 1st May 1992. The delivery was C-section and the sex of the child is Male.
Unquote:
truly yours,
vedicmaths
Thanks for participating.
She gave birth to a male child on 14-Oct-1991.
She aborted a few times after this birth of male child willfully.
She wanted to avoid a big family. Hence , she can be considered very fertile.
Her son got married just a month ago.
Forum member , who did not want to post in the thread , sent me a
PM and his answer was close. This is what he wrote,,,..
Quote:
According to me... the given birth time is not accurate. If I try to rectify it... it changes the ascendant.
However with the given birth time... the child birth might have happen in Ketu-Mars-Mercury interlocking period. Ideally it could have happen between 28th april 1992 to 1st May 1992. The delivery was C-section and the sex of the child is Male.
Unquote:
truly yours,
vedicmaths
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joyd
vedicmaths-However with the given birth time... the child birth might have happen in Ketu-Mars-Mercury interlocking period. Ideally it could have happen between 28th april 1992 to 1st May 1992. The delivery was C-section and the sex of the child is Male...
can you place his and your analysis too with the given birth time ? for learning purpose..?Meanwhile i will also cross check once again the out come and if i find any err, i will post it here..
joyd.
can you place his and your analysis too with the given birth time ? for learning purpose..?Meanwhile i will also cross check once again the out come and if i find any err, i will post it here..
joyd.
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hello joyd,
First of all, i would like to mention that i am like all and i would have erred like most.
Prediction is not easy. Most of the analysis / predictions made here are with lot of
" ifs and buts " waiting to be proven. We are only trying to encourage people and trying
to instill confidence. Some predictions can come true, but people don't like that or want that.
Left to me, though it would appear on hindsight, i would have never thought that the lady is
barren. Sun in the fifth, free of kroora aspects is bound to make the person fertile. Venus
in the house of sun can only make the relationship frigid, but not make the sun weaker.
Ketu gives lineage, and hence ketu cannot prevent children , unless it is placed in 5th.
In rare cases, ketu in fifth can give children.
Jupiter , Karaka for children, is placed in lagna and in ninth along with fifth lord mercury
in the house of bhagya in navamsa. I use pushya paksha ayanamsa and also jagannath
ayanamsa. People bank only on dasa/antar/ect to choose the ayanamsa , but i don't do that.
Ofcourse, the sex part , certainly, i would not venture. That is why , i did not ask
people to predict male / female.
truly yours,
truly maths
First of all, i would like to mention that i am like all and i would have erred like most.
Prediction is not easy. Most of the analysis / predictions made here are with lot of
" ifs and buts " waiting to be proven. We are only trying to encourage people and trying
to instill confidence. Some predictions can come true, but people don't like that or want that.
Left to me, though it would appear on hindsight, i would have never thought that the lady is
barren. Sun in the fifth, free of kroora aspects is bound to make the person fertile. Venus
in the house of sun can only make the relationship frigid, but not make the sun weaker.
Ketu gives lineage, and hence ketu cannot prevent children , unless it is placed in 5th.
In rare cases, ketu in fifth can give children.
Jupiter , Karaka for children, is placed in lagna and in ninth along with fifth lord mercury
in the house of bhagya in navamsa. I use pushya paksha ayanamsa and also jagannath
ayanamsa. People bank only on dasa/antar/ect to choose the ayanamsa , but i don't do that.
Ofcourse, the sex part , certainly, i would not venture. That is why , i did not ask
people to predict male / female.
truly yours,
truly maths
Jup in lagna maleficallly aspecting 5th house so either delay or abortion or miscarriages can occur . generallysex of the child is to be seen from male chart only not from women chart.I based in my analysis that in woman chart when ever Venus is more full ,Mars debilated for 3,6,10,11 the person donot want to take any responsibility of child and moon should be weak or afflicted by Rahu / ketu .in the chart under reference Venus sixth lord in 4th house Mars in cancer 3rd house debilitated Rahu in second .so I thought she is not interested in having kids .you also mentioned about that in your result she was not interested in kids .
Any how thanks for sharing the chart
Any how thanks for sharing the chart
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shaktichalini
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Ok....what about the husband...and was there any problem to the women health wise around 2015...just want to know the effect of sa transitting the lowest in sav(if jhora is showing accurately as in 7th its 22 and in 9 its 23)...
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And yes prediction is not easy. Because there are many forces playing at the same time. The nine planets,12 rashi,their degree,their placement,avasthas etc and thousands of permutationa nd combination. Its a puzzle and unless one understand the play of planets and their mental makeup at the same time accurate prediction is not possible. The whole life from birth to death of the native is in front of our eyes and only the keen eyes and intellect filled with divinity can see that. Thats why astrologers are called daivagya.
People spends lifetime understanding this science as its base is not mundane...but spiritual. So right or wrong prediction we have to still consider ourselves as a learner because spirituality is fathomless. And the more you understand astrology, the more you understand the subtle part....it wants to convey. And understanding the subtlest part is the Knowledge of astrology and astrological play.
People spends lifetime understanding this science as its base is not mundane...but spiritual. So right or wrong prediction we have to still consider ourselves as a learner because spirituality is fathomless. And the more you understand astrology, the more you understand the subtle part....it wants to convey. And understanding the subtlest part is the Knowledge of astrology and astrological play.
