marriage denial or only delay? lots of questions

[divine_spark]

september 28, 1984
20:08
milwaukee, wi, usa

is marriage denied in my chart? venus and saturn are placed in libra in the 7th house and i have moon with ketu in the 8th. lagna and 8th lord mars is placed in the 9th with jupiter, receiving aspect from exalted saturn. in navamsa, mars, sun, and saturn all sit in aries in the 7th. i am hoping that my navamsa saturn receives NBRJ. i guess what i am asking is, do the planets stay functionally malefic even if they are in good dignity? does venus in its own sign in the 7th cancel out some of the delay/denial caused by saturn in 7th and moon/ketu in 8th?

i also have pluto and uranus with venus and saturn in the 7th.

i am 29, running mercury-saturn. both eunuch planets, mercury (exalted) placed in the 6th house (12th from the 7th) with sun in virgo and in navamsa it is with venus in the 4th in capricorn. jupiter is aspecting my 7th house. in november i had my saturn return (ive read that natives with saturn in 7th should wait until at least then to get married). i am also running the beginning of sade sati as a scorpio moon; saturn is the ruler of my moon's star, anuradha.

some say marriage is not shown in my chart. some say it will be delayed and difficult. some say it will be to a good and beautiful man, happy and lasting.

do i need to wait for venus dasha? by then i will be too old to have children. is it always a bad idea to marry and have children in ketu dasha? i am hoping that i can be married during this saturn bhukti, but am i just holding onto false hopes?

[ChandraLagna]

I'd be cautiously optimistic. You need not wait till start of Venus MD.
Mercury Mahadasha itself can grant marriage. A likely period is just after your birthday next year.

[divine_spark]

is today's age, is the likely period of marriage the time of actual marriage ceremony, moving in with a partner, or meeting the partner?

if you think i can indeed be married by that time... do you have suggestions for what the partner will be like? where from? if we've met?

[divine_spark]

also, why do you see the period just after my birthday next year as a likely period? kindly explain as i am very much into trying to understand vedic astrology and how to better use it in my life and for helping others. thank you.

[ChandraLagna]

Divine_spark,

In today's age, marriage would be deemed as the actual marriage, but its been seen that even moving in can count, but not merely meeting.

Regarding the timing, in brief, I can point to the Vimshottari dasa favorable to marriage that starts Sep 2015 and extends till march 2016.

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[karthik1984]

divine spark, already senior member Chandra Lagna Ji has given his advise with regards to marriage. I fully respect his advise.

I will give my view...you are likely to get married between 2014 march to august 2014.... Chances are very high that you will get married between this period.

[divine_spark]

thank you for your responses...

chandralagna, i am just needing explanation because i thought i was starting ketu dasha in 2015... everything i read about marriage during ketu md is so terrible, that it denies things and takes them away. as it is placed in my 8th house with moon, i am confused about this.

also, CL or karthik.... do you have any ideas about the type of partner or if the marriage will last?

[karthik1984]

Marriage will be good. He will be handsome as well as little mature looker.

[divine_spark]

I am still single and losing hope rapidly.

[ChandraLagna]

Hi Divine_Spark,

As far as I remember you did move in with your then boyfriend somewhere around that time & though you broke up later, it was neither very casual, not very short to be termed a fling. This may not have resulted in a marriage blessed by a priest and church, but is quite something that fulfilled the indicators for that time.

[AstroDrAnjna]

you 7h sl and ssl both saturn indicating delay in marriage
in lagna chart saturn is 11th lord with 2,7th lord in 7th house yet exhalted
in d9 it gets debilitated
also three malefics/cruel planet in 7th difficulties in marriage/married life
in d60 its conjunct with rahu another great malefics so causing full delay
marriage not possible before 36 of age

[divine_spark]

So, the same ex boyfriend I lived with before, he and I have been talking and seeing each other again. I get impatient but I have been very good at tempering myself this time around and I never show my impatience. I give him plenty of space and as of now we only see each other 2 times a month maximum. We keep in regular contact but not as often as I would like.

It’s getting to the point where I feel things should pick up the pace slightly. I’d just like to see him 3-4 times per month and talk close to every day, although every day is not necessary. I’d like more romantic dates instead of just hanging out, or some romantic gestures and more loving communication. There is some but it seems like time for there to be .. well, more.

I also have the job interview of my dreams coming up a week from today, Monday, June 4th. I noticed I am starting Mars antardasha on June 6th. Mars is my Lagna lord placed in 9th house as per whole house system.

I also noticed the full moon tomorrow is one degree away from my natal moon, and only a couple of degrees from my partner’s 7th house cusp.

Jupiter is also exactly retrograde on my 7th house cusp. I thought this would bring a solidifying of my relationship, some officialness to it, commitment, and sweet words of love. I’m still waiting.

That being said, I am over the moon (no pun intended) about the chance/opportunity for a new and much better job coming up.

Can anyone shed any further light here? I do feel much more positive about my life these days than I have in the past when writing here, but my soul is still asking...

[Lex]

september 28, 1984
20:08
milwaukee, wi, usa

is marriage denied in my chart? venus and saturn are placed in libra in the 7th house and i have moon with ketu in the 8th. lagna and 8th lord mars is placed in the 9th with jupiter,
do i need to wait for venus dasha? by then i will be too old to have children. is it always a bad idea to marry and have children in ketu dasha? i am hoping that i can be married during this saturn bhukti, but am i just holding onto false hopes?

I guess DST not appliacble during Sep28,1984 at Milwaukee ?

You aren't Mesha Lagna.

Today at my Latitude Ketu and Kuja in conjunction, and Ketu in Chandra's star, and today Chandra in Anuradha nk, and udaya lagna deposition in Purvaphalguni nk.... you should be Rishabha lagna and Chandra should be in Vrichika

I wouldlike to see through Prashna or Horary through K.P.Prashna system of astrology, choose any number between 1 and 249, and pose only one query related to your marriage, Please remember, analyzing through Horary system, analysis wil tell marriage yes or No, straightforward answer, no ambiguity, if marriage is seen, than when

[divine_spark]

How am I Taurus Lagna when so many say Mesha? Also I am not 100% trusting prashna because I ask questions all the time.

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[Lex]

How am I Taurus Lagna when so many say Mesha? Also I am not 100% trusting prashna because I ask questions all the time.

46

Who are so many?. How you aren't Mesha lagna, please reread my earlier post
I respect your trust, so I will not cast Prashna chart

[Vivek Surya]

नमः शिवाय!

How am I Taurus Lagna when so many say Mesha? Also I am not 100% trusting prashna because I ask questions all the time.

Divine spark Ji, as per the birth information provided by you, your Ascendant degree is at 22° 03' in Aries as per JHora software!
As per the definition Ascendant degree is chosen as Bhaava madhya (not the starting point of 1st house) if people tells the other way ask them the logic & source! Yes you've Ascendant in Aries.
I'll definitely provide the logic. Astrologers like B. V. Raman Ji, Sunjay Rath Ji, KN Rao Gaaru, PVR Narasimha rao gaaru, Vaughn Paul Ji & so many respected Astrologers have implemented the same & It's logical to choose Ascendant degree as middle of the 1st house! Some people who follow western & so called K.P. will choose illogically as Ascendant degree as starting point of the 1st house. If I assume K. P. i.e., by choosing Placidus houses & Ascendant degree as starting point of the 1st house I'll be getting Ketu in 3rd house & Moon in 7th house in my horoscope! Which was / is completely false. It has given me the results based on Ketu in 4th house & Moon in 8th house! Not just this, my entire chart was meaningless w.r.t. K. P. It is wrong w.r.t. my life events!

Who are so many?. How you aren't Mesha lagna, please reread my earlier post

Yes she has conveyed that she has Aries (Mesha raashi) as Ascendant!

Divine spark Ji, for your kind information, I don't have any logic to convey you in regards to Prashna. But Maharshi Paraashara has told about it. You may believe in Maharshi Paraashara's Prashna, but It's up to you to believe KP or not & also Its Prashna

One important observation: K.P. completely neglects Ashtakavarga analysis! In Paraashari Paddhati one definitely consider it!

For further discussions made on it, one may look into this extended thread:
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=38128

[divine_spark]

Very interesting points, Vivek. Thank you for your input. More to think about. My KP chart concerned me, to say the least, so it’s nice to hear that someone else thinks it is inaccurate.

It’s not that I don’t believe in Prasna, I just don’t think it would be credible for my personal questions because I ask so many so often and ponder almost everything through the lens of astrology. Asking questions is a part of my learning process as much as it is a personal plea for guidance and ultimately a kind of therapy when it helps.

So you’re suggesting that maybe I don’t feel or experience results of a transit over 22 degrees of every sign as that planet affecting the respective house because those degrees are actually not the house cusp? I remember several times when transits to these points brought undeniable manifestations - although I guess this can also be what some astrologers call the “most sensitive point” in the House.

As I reread my post from the day before, it does sound like I need to be even more patient. I do not want to stay with someone who doesn’t let me know he’s moving toward commitment, or doesn’t do nice things for me to be romantic or try to make me happy. I do feel neglected, but can’t seem to walk away just yet. It’s just that I feel like I do deserve better, I just wonder when the universe is going to agree.

[divine_spark]

So if marriage is not until 36, any ideas about when that relationship could start?

[divine_spark]

Is it possible to move in with someone before I turn 36 and marry them after?

[sammyho148]

This looks like a horoscope that has delay but promise of marriage looks more or less certain to me.

Mercury as the lord of 3rd and 6th is not very conducive for marriage, based on the timelines here looks like it caused more conflicts though you have made an effort. Ketu MD looks most likely to give marriage, specifically during the Jupiter and Saturn sub periods. Jupiter sub period starting around this time next year looks more likely to me since Jupiter is in Ketu nakshatra, if Ketu is indeed capable of giving results on this front during his MD, it is more likely to happen during this period. From a transit point of view Jupiter and Saturn will do a double transit on Mars and Jupiter natal position in Sagittarius during the later part of 2019. There are possibilities during 2021 as well in case the Jupiter sub period does not provide the desired result.

It is sometimes darkest before dawn, continue to be patient and put in the effort over the next 12 months or so.

What I find more interesting is the dynamics between your spouse and you - you seem to be the kind of person who values an emotional connect more than anything else in your partner. There may be tendencies in your spouse to look detached from your point of view who isn't really doing as much as you would want him to do for the relationship. A lot of time you will feel like you are in a relationship that does not have much romance going for it. You will need to ask yourself is this due to the other person or is this how you would think irrespective of who you deal with. Your Venus is in Rahu nakshatra, chances are you may be someone who always longs for more in relationships. This is one dynamic that you will need to figure out how to manage, this will become very critical in how stable your relationships are going to be. Your 4th Lord of domestic happiness is not exactly well placed so this is something you will need to think hard about and be clear about what you can/cannot live with in relationships.

From a more practical point of view keeping astrology aside, if you have issues in the relationship that you cannot seem to reconcile over a period of 2-3 years it does not get any better from here. You may need to accept that certain ground realities cannot be changed.

Whatever you do - choose wisely & Good Luck

[divine_spark]

Thank you, sammyho148. Sometimes it feels like no one is reading or cares to respond at all. I understand, sometimes people sound too desperate. What is easy to forget is there is a person on the other side of the screen, who is probably aware of how pathetic they may or may not be sounding, and genuinely needs help.

It didn't help when a KP astrologer told me on this forum I'd absolutely never marry, and only have boyfriends.

What's funny is one astrologer told me almost 10 years ago that I would marry someone in IT (completely not my type, or so I thought at the time) - and although we didn't marry, we lived together for a short time and talked about marriage frequently - and that the marriage would break due to "mental anxieties."

Well, he has mental anxieties alright. Things have gone beyond general uptightness and basic social anxiety and taken a turn for the clinical worse, including a deep depression, constant irritability, and an almost complete inability to cope with stress in any way other than shutting himself away completely, though I don't think he's yet sought professional treatment.

I have decided to move on from this relationship, and I did check and think long and hard, overcompromised, talked with other people to make sure I wasn't mismanaging my expectations. When your partner completely ignores your interests, insights, mentioning of siblings' birthdays, criticizes your clothes, your body weight, and character, disappears for weeks or months at a time .. it took me a long time to realize how miserable I was just trying to give and give, understand and explain away, make excuses for, be patient for, wait, and wait, and wait for things to get better... meanwhile I almost completely lost my sense of self. I had so much hope and faith in him, in love, and in time. But when I weigh everything out... with the risk of sounding haughty, even if he were mentally healthy... I still think I could do better. Find someone with more shared interests, more zest and warm-bloodedness, and perhaps a taller stature and more attractive physical features

The thing is, I have tasted what a good and healthy relationship is. I was much younger, but I had a good head on my shoulders at the time. I may have been excessively interested in my partner at the time, but the feeling was mutual and was pure bliss, and I excelled in almost every other area of my life at the time. (Mercury dasa, Jupiter/Saturn double transit on my ascendant.) Had I been older and more ready to settle down, I could have seen that relationship blossom into a stable slow burn of love without much hunger for "more and more."

I truly see myself as an excellent partner - not because I am an excellent person per se, but because when paired with the right person and not the wrong person, I have so much to offer. This was the wrong person and it was, as they say, throwing pearls before swine. I just kept throwing them, and when they were not appreciated, convinced myself I was the swine.

It helps to know that I can still have a bright future ahead.