Concerning career

[ashy]

I have been working for close to 6 years now in the writing industry and the job is rewarding (from a financial perspective) but it has drained my psychologically because my heart is not in it. Can someone help me find my true calling in life (in respect to career)? I have been contemplating moving into the teaching industry but there are many obstacles in my educational path preventing me from heading there. I am not able to get a college seat due to my age. I feel a little broken thinking about my career and the instability I have had with jobs. I have changed jobs 5 times in 6 years now. I have tried reading my d10 chart but I am not able to tell what profession I should pursue or when I will get a good break in terms of my current work profile. Can someone help me out? My birth details are DOB - 31 March 1987 | Time: 13:45 | Place: Chennai

Regards,
Ashwin

[malavyaBadava]

Happy Belated birthday. Cancer ascendant and Moon in Ashwini. I presume that is why you have the name. 10th house Moon. But not a bright Moon (born a day after Amavasya).

Venus and Saturn can be career road blocks here(sometimes even Mercury). I see retrograde Saturn aspecting raja yoga karaka Mars.

The Mars Saturn aspect is NOT a tight one but it is still enough to cause road blocks.


What does not help here is Guru is combust (although in it's own house and conjoint with Rahu).

The other issue is Moon or Mars does not get any aspect of benefic planets.

But a self career would be a good choice(i.e. independent career not reporting to anyone). Mars in 11th house could also mean you could look at side business. I would also look at a career in real estate and businesses related to real estate.
Catering industry or farming related industries.

[ashy]

Thanks Malavya for taking some time out to answer my query. Yes, my parents named me after the birth star. I have been contemplating the possibility of starting a small restaurant or even taking up a course in Swaraj University where they teach you entrepreneurial skills related to cooking and organic farming. I guess since Moon is in my D10 lagna and in my 10th house, it makes sense to get involved in moon related professional paths.

In Jaimini, my amatyakaraka mentions Mercury as my career signifactor so I always wondered if I was only destined to follow a Mercurial career. And Ketu's placement in Hasta nakshatra and Moon's placement in Ashwini also made me think I should look to get involved in careers related to healing using hands. You can tell I have been confused.

Many thanks again for your insights.

Regards,
Ashwin

[ashy]

Someone else had also told me sometime back that when Saturn and Mars share a mutual aspect, it is best to look for self-employment and not work under anyone. So what you mentioned makes a lot of sense.

I tried using the 10th lord navamsa dispositer concept in which 10th lord Mars is sitting in Capricorn in the 4th navamsa making Saturn the career planet. But Saturn in D10 is sitting in 11th house debilitated in Aries so I figured all my karmic debts are to paid through my struggles in career.

Regards,
Ashwin

[malavyaBadava]

You are welcome. A small correction - you were born on shukla paksha dvitiya(2 days after amavasya). Still not very bright moon. You could try wearing a pearl (although I do not in general gemstone recommendations). The main thing is to create a connection to Mother(in your case Mother Earth).

I checked the website of Swaraj University(based in Udaipur right ? http://www.swarajuniversity.org/about-us.html ). It looks a fantastic place to learn and relax.

Kindly take Chandra lagna and Revribhav's words seriously in your marriage posting query. Pay as little attention as possible to divisional charts. The D-1 Chart is the main. Those are the only karmic debts to be paid.

Organic farming and restaurant would be wonderful career options for you. You could also source organic products and cook as well.
Guru(Jupiter) is all about organic farming and passion for the environment. Kindly make maximum usage of 9th house Guru in own house aspecting 5th house and ascendant. That would also lessen the impact of Saturn 8th house lord in the 5th house(past life karmas).

[malavyaBadava]

I know you talked about the Nakshatra exchange between Moon and Ketu but here is something unique about your chart.

Venus, Mercury, Saturn, raja yogakaraka Mars all aspect the 2nd house.

Jupiter, Rahu are all conjoint with the 2nd house lord Sun.

All planets except the Moon are connected with the 2nd house or it's ruler Sun.Second house is usually associated with food.

So that should be fairly convincing.

[ashy]

Swaraj is in Udaipur, yes. It makes sense to avoid looking at the divisional charts because in a space of 4 mins my entire D9 lagna changes and it is quite possible that my birth time is not precise to the minute.

I wasn't aware that 2nd house represents food. I knew 2nd house represents family lineage, wealth, speech and eyes, but never thought food would figure in that list. It makes sense then that I should look in the direction of cooking and farming. I do care deeply about the earth but I am curious to know why you mentioned Mother Earth as being a focal aspect of my chart. My understanding of astrology is obviously very minimal as you would've guessed it, but I have found the whole science to be fascinating. I was studying Jaimin concepts and I found out the 10th from karakamsa lagna (in my case - Pisces) would be what the soul craves with regards to profession and as Sagittarius falls there it makes sense that in the last few years I've been contemplating the possibility of studying further and moving towards the teaching career. But I also see that chandra-based careers would be most suitable for me. Chandra sits in D10 lagna as well.

Going back to the 2nd house in my chart, it just occurred to me that Mercury (amatyakaraka in my chart) is sitting in Leo in D10. Not sure if that has any connection to what you mentioned about the 2nd house in my main chart. Thanks again for taking the time out to respond. Much appreciated. I shall go back to looking more closely into my chandra lagna and my main chart.

Regards,
Ashwin

[ChandraLagna]

It appears that both Revribhav and I may have been misunderstood. Not for a moment do I downplay Vargas or their importance; in fact in some cases, the Varga causes Bhanga, either uccha or neecha. You can search on this forum for my posts on Vargas or divisionals and how they out to be strictly interpreted. Ignoring Vargas is not an option at all for any student of astrology. I just said that the vargas do not have houses and should not be read in the same fashion as the main chart.

[malavyaBadava]

Kalapurusha perspective - 2nd house is the face which includes the mouth. So there is definitely a connection. Transiting Jupiter and Rahu are in your 2nd house right now. I believe you just started your moon daasha. So this phase will all be about career and yourself (1st and 10th house connection).

I would also look at the ashtavaraga points for Jupiter and Mars and time your career efforts appropriately.


@ChandraLagna - noted your clarifications. I apologize for any misunderstanding if any. My view is that D1 is 80% impact and the other varga charts are rest.

How does one define birth time ? Is it the time the baby comes out of the Mother or when the baby starts to breathe in this world ? So extreme accuracy of birth time is required. Hence my point was divisional charts are not as important as divisional.

[ChandraLagna]

Hello MalavyaBadava -
No apologies needed! This forum is meant for discussions, so any clarifications can be easily sought and provided. Coming to the weightage of the Vargas, here is what Parashara muni has to say:

17-19. Vimshopak Bal. The Shad Vargas consist of Rāśi, Hora, Dreshkan, Navāńś, Dvadashāńś and Trimshāńś. The full Bal for each of the divisions, respectively, are 6, 2, 4, 5, 2 and 1. This is the Vimshopak Bal, relating to Shad Varg division.

For a strength of 20, Rasi takes 6/20, which is 30% and the rest is split among various other divisions, the second highest being Navamsa, which is 5/20 which is 25%. So, even to attain 50% validity, navamsa is a must.

As we all know there are the pancha bhutas - bhumi, akasa, jala, agni and vayu. The only one missing when a baby is born is vayu - air. So, when the baby takes the first gasp of breath with a loud cry, that is the moment of birth.

There can be a lot of uncertainties involved here - the wall clock or wrist watch can be incorrect, or the doc/nurse may see the time a few mins later and round off, the variation in co-ordinates of a large city can influence divisional lagna, the Ayanamsa chosen - whether Lahiri, or others , all these influence the minutae.

But these are the uncertain data an astrologer has to work with and discarding the vargas is easy, but not recommended. Interpreting a chart can be matter of knowledge, skill, experience and intuition but not considering the vargas is like trying to win a game of chess blindfolded. Maybe a few blessed ones can do it, but its not something recommended for the majority of practitioners of astrology.

[malavyaBadava]

Hello ChandraLagna,
Thanks for personal response. Good to read on these subtle matters. In my case I was born still(no motion) and I did not breathe until the duty doctor slapped my back and then I started to cry. This happened a full hour or so later- at this point of time in my life no one knows exactly when. The ascendant does not change with this scenario but the divisional lagna do change. Most of my life can be explained with the D1 chart but finding my navamsha/dasamsa lagna is unknown at this point.

Regards,
Malavya Badava.

[ashy]

Interesting. You learn something new everyday. I didn't think about the notion of a baby taking its first breathe as the precise moment of arrival on this plane. In case of normal births, sometimes the child's head or leg appears out of the cervix but the child doesn't completely step out until after a while. My brother's birth was complicated. He died three days after he was born because the doctors handling him accidentally wounded his spine while taking him out of my mother. There is so much that goes on in such a scenario that it seems impossible to expect nurses to note down the precise time of birth.

I always assumed the child's first point of entry into the world is the time you use to draw a chart. I remember reading a concept about predicting child-birth in which the 2nd lord, 5th lord and 11th lord would transit one sign (the same sign) and that precise period could either refer to the birth of an offspring for the native or the time when the native triggers pregnancy.

I know that some people read the D9 chart as a stand-alone chart, as the logic here being that the native gravitates towards what the D9 indicates after the age of 35 or after marriage. Some even believe you become your navamsa chart in the future. But I see that perhaps this isn't the right approach to examining the divisionals and the vargas have to be read in relation to the main chart. I always thought the navamsa houses held a certain amount of significance akin to the main chart, because the spouse's lagna, I'm told, often falls in the 7-1 axis of D9, and the strength of the 9th navamsa house signifies the fortune of the native after marriage.

[ChandraLagna]

The logic that a person somehow starts being his D9 at a certain age or after an event like marriage versus his D1 when born is something that actually defies logic. What really is a D9 "chart" ? Firstly, it is not even a chart. Let's say a planet is placed in 29 deg in Aries. Its placement will be in Sagi navamsa. If this is the placement at birth, this will not change because this is a snapshot at the instant the person was born. The significations of that planet and placement starts with his life and ends with his life and there is no such thing as "weightage" that increases once the person crosses 36 years of his life! I've heard this 36-years argument before, and to that, my counter questions have been, what if a person does not marry at all? or marries multiple times? or dies before 35? So does one have multiple Navamsas in the first cases, and none in the latter?

Here's another reply I had posted a while back and should prove helpful here.
http://lightonvedicastrology.com/phpBB3 ... 5&p=216779

And the other thing you've heard is not right either, that the spouse's lagna is 1-7 of D9 - that's complete baloney. If you have the patience, please go through the hundreds of charts of couples on this very forum to verify the veracity of that claim. Finally, since there are no houses in D9 ( read my first post above), this strength of 9H in Navamsa is signifying fortune of native is without any bfoundation. Please do search for my posts on this topic in the forum, you'll find me talking these very same points every once in a while !

[malavyaBadava]

[quote="ashy"]
I know that some people read the D9 chart as a stand-alone chart, as the logic here being that the native gravitates towards what the D9 indicates after the age of 35 or after marriage. Some even believe you become your navamsa chart in the future. But I see that perhaps this isn't the right approach to examining the divisionals and the vargas have to be read in relation to the main chart. I always thought the navamsa houses held a certain amount of significance akin to the main chart, because the spouse's lagna, I'm told, often falls in the 7-1 axis of D9, and the strength of the 9th navamsa house signifies the fortune of the native after marriage.[/quote]


I see you have an interest in astrology. When I look at your chart and I see that you are a) Cancer ascendant b) Venus and Mercury in the 8th house (natural benefics)

could you go on to develop an intuitive ability to read charts as opposed to a logical way ?

I see why not. 4th house, 8th house, 12th houses are moksha houses. In other words other worldly. They are mysterious. We do not know a lot about them. How does one define intuition ? It is more of a feminine quality(gut feeling).

Look at Einstein's chart. 8th house exalted Mars and Rahu(Capricorn). Venus 12th house Lord exalted in 10th house. When he stopped visualizing and performing Gedanken(thought) experiments and became more mathematical(equations) he lost that intuitive ability or genius. No earth shaking papers after 1915.

4th house strong - higher meanings - strong tendency towards bhakti yoga

8th house strong - higher meanings - occult faculties, spiritual knowledge including jyotish

12th house strong - higher meanings - strong desire to pursue moksha or enlightenment etc.

So in your case when you combine the Cancer ascendant(emotional/spiritual - sign of the Kala purusha Mother). with strong 4th, 8th and 12th house higher meanings it enhances those values.

People with these charts and who display these higher tendencies are very special although society may or may not acknowledge it.

[ashy]

I shall take some time and go through the earlier threads that you are referring to with regards to the spouse's lagna and the navamsa chart. I am very new to the forum and to jyotish as a whole. So I trust your knowledge in this matter. I was only sharing the opinions that I heard elsewhere. The 7-1 navamsa axis (spouse's lagna) is actually an opinion I read in barbarapijan's website. I think you must be aware of her work.

In Jaimini concepts, they mention that the upapada lagna, the second from upapada, the kendra houses and trines will be the spouse's lagna. I know that is vague and too expansive to narrow down a single rasi.

I am curious though, since you mentioned that the D9 should not be read as a chart with houses, why do many astrologers take into account the drishti's (aspects) of planets within the D9 chart? For example, I was told by an astrologer that since my moon and venus are mutually aspecting each other in navamsa that my marriage would take place in the moon mahadasha. Would you say such a prediction is incorrect?

Regards,
Ashwin

[ashy]

It is interesting you'd mention about Einstein's intuitive capacity. I always thought as a scientist, Einstein had a very mystical approach to life, which is rare in scientific circles, in which they stress on the notion of deducing the world purely through the intellect. Tesla is the only other name that comes to mind when I think of scientists who had a mystical approach to understanding the world. The 8th house is certainly a sign of mystery. In Jaimini concepts, the 12th house from karakamsa lagna is perceived as key to understanding the soul's next step - i.e moksha or stepping into swarga lokas or making its way to less pleasant places. In my chart, the 12th from karakamsa lagna (pisces) is my 8th house (aquarius) where Venus and Mercury sits. This also implies that Vishnu or an avatar of Vishnu would be my ishta devata. At home, my mom has always worshipped Vishnu (kula deva) even though I am not religious (or theistic) in the orthodox sense of that word.

When I was younger, I was very interested in understanding the deeper aspects of religion. But the more I saw religion express itself in our world in the form of belief systems or dogmas, the more atheistic I became. I grew up to discard religion altogether (Rahu in the 9th?) and even thought God is just man's creation. But that was a long time ago, and since then my views have changed quite a bit. I have had some spiritual (intuitive?) experiences that I cannot define through the boundaries of logic and all of that has led me to explore philosophies like Vedanta and Zen, and sages like Ramana or Krishnamurti. It is also strange that I have always had a fondness for Buddha since my younger days (Mercury sitting in the 12th from karakamsa) perhaps has something to do with that.

I was actually skeptical of astrology and didn't believe in it when I was young - even though I always thought it was fun to read the general predictions you get in western astrological sites. But through a colleague at my workplace I met a Nadi astrologer who astonishingly predicated certain events in my life that very few people knew about. That triggered my curiosity and led me to pick up Jyotish. I have only ever read two books and my knowledge is terribly limited, but my experience so far has been interesting to say the least. I met someone who has an identical birth-chart to mine but born in a different country. I also have these strange insights (intuition?) that comes to me during states of sleep or solitude. Again, there are things I cannot explain. Mostly I get the feeling that my perception of myself as an individual is incorrect and that all thoughts that flow through me are not really my own.

Regards,
Ashwin

[malavyaBadava]

11th house lord is in 8th house , 8th house lord is in 5th house and 5th house lord is in 11th house. Shrinkhala parivartan yoga.
Venus, Saturn and Mars.
So those houses, rulers and their significations are connected.

[ashy]

In Nadi astrology, when there is a parivartana yoga between any two planets, it is considered that these two planets are in their own house. I wasn't aware that parivartana applies even at the level of lordship of houses. I always thought it applies only when planets exchange houses. In D9 - Jupiter and Venus exchange houses.