It is my understanding, from what I have read, that astrological valid Marriage occurs either from the actual ceremony/legal commitment - or - when a child is born (unmarried/Out-of-Wedlock).
While I occasionally wonder if we would legally marry, I'm more interested:
HOW DOES A ASTROLOGICAL DIVORCE HAPPEN when parents are not married?
I cannot help but review our attempts are romantic/partnering with others, and see that these relationships seem very 12th house and follow a pattern of an affair. There even seems to be a 'unifying' period following either of our attempts to find relationship with another.
Whereas I became pregnant very close to the start of my Rahu Dasha, and my child would come of age at the end, I wonder if the start of the Guru Dasha would = end of this "marriage". I met the father in my Mars Dasha, he had noticed me and pursued me in advance of my awareness of him.
Any clarity, whether generalized or specific, is appreciated. There does not seem to be information about this available in English. I noticed other 'single' mothers in my situation that have different outcomes. (These differences include having a 'break-up' or distinction of no familiarity with the child's father and the ability to marry others and have a separate identity. I feel strongly that I am in a 'wife' role.
Thank you kindly.
Me: Nov/14/1979 8:23am Honolulu, Hi, USA
Him: Aug/5/1978 7:50pm San Jose, CA, USA
Child: Nov/24/2000 8:05am San Francisco, CA USA
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Specifically to my situation, the father of my child has never formally made any commitment to me (whether or marriage or significant other). We keep separate residences, generally neither or us would say the other as a friend, or a partner but there is a closeness, a bond that has existed since we met in the summer of 1997. We unite finances, console each other during trouble periods, and we have are occasional moments of being infatuated with one another, or of expressed empathy of the others plight and assistance to each other. As far as our son is concerned, he would not consider himself a child of a "broken-home" or a "nuclear family" but something balanced and suitable given the situation.
I have joked that the essence feels like an arranged marriage (in this case, cosmically arranged). I suppose if it was an urgent matter, we would marry, for the sake of whatever legal advantage was sought for. I would have liked to have formally marry to ensure the appropriate social standing but my son's father is frequently infatuated by other women, and I suppose it is hard to consider marriage when he is (temporarily) envision ever-lasting romance with another person. I'm a lot more practical. Both of us are American, though of different backgrounds, none associated with Asia.
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'Divorce' Prediction Unmarried, Child outside of Wedlock
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Hello Meriwmeriw wrote:It is my understanding, from what I have read, that astrological valid Marriage occurs either from the actual ceremony/legal commitment - or - when a child is born (unmarried/Out-of-Wedlock).
While I occasionally wonder if we would legally marry, I'm more interested:
HOW DOES A ASTROLOGICAL DIVORCE HAPPEN when parents are not married?
I cannot help but review our attempts are romantic/partnering with others, and see that these relationships seem very 12th house and follow a pattern of an affair. There even seems to be a 'unifying' period following either of our attempts to find relationship with another.
Whereas I became pregnant very close to the start of my Rahu Dasha, and my child would come of age at the end, I wonder if the start of the Guru Dasha would = end of this "marriage". I met the father in my Mars Dasha, he had noticed me and pursued me in advance of my awareness of him.
Any clarity, whether generalized or specific, is appreciated. There does not seem to be information about this available in English. I noticed other 'single' mothers in my situation that have different outcomes. (These differences include having a 'break-up' or distinction of no familiarity with the child's father and the ability to marry others and have a separate identity. I feel strongly that I am in a 'wife' role.
Thank you kindly.
Me: Nov/14/1979 8:23am Honolulu, Hi, USA
Him: Aug/5/1978 7:50pm San Jose, CA, USA
Child: Nov/24/2000 8:05am San Francisco, CA USA
(Backstory/Context Begin)
Specifically to my situation, the father of my child has never formally made any commitment to me (whether or marriage or significant other). We keep separate residences, generally neither or us would say the other as a friend, or a partner but there is a closeness, a bond that has existed since we met in the summer of 1997. We unite finances, console each other during trouble periods, and we have are occasional moments of being infatuated with one another, or of expressed empathy of the others plight and assistance to each other. As far as our son is concerned, he would not consider himself a child of a "broken-home" or a "nuclear family" but something balanced and suitable given the situation.
I have joked that the essence feels like an arranged marriage (in this case, cosmically arranged). I suppose if it was an urgent matter, we would marry, for the sake of whatever legal advantage was sought for. I would have liked to have formally marry to ensure the appropriate social standing but my son's father is frequently infatuated by other women, and I suppose it is hard to consider marriage when he is (temporarily) envision ever-lasting romance with another person. I'm a lot more practical. Both of us are American, though of different backgrounds, none associated with Asia.
(Backstory/Context End)
It appears that your soul in this cycle has come to play a role in experiencing love in a particular way.
Venus is for love, spouse, happiness among other significations. The soul significator of your chart is
Venus. It is a functional malefic of your chart and is also the most malefic planet being owner of the
12H placed in the 1H representing yourself and is on the most effective point of your chart.
In the Navamsha chart it is placed in the Lagna which seems to be important lessons to be learnt on this
stage in this life. These seem to be the sacrifices to be made and also lessons to be learnt with love,
understanding, forgiveness, acceptance, etc in the play. These will probably realize towards the end of your life when
you reach the Venus Mahadasa, which in my opinion you will achieve, after digesting the lessons.
Please try not to compare yourself with other females who have different acts or roles to play.
I hope this has shown some light in your path and it will make you more understading and
contented in life.
I only examined your chart.
Stay Blessed in the way you are !
AS ABOVE, SO BELOW. ***Pls check my post Mantras for Planets***
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Hi MeriW
Just an idea - An astrological divorce in vedic terms may just be all the significations of the 12th house.
Seclusion, confinement, living in a far foreign land and of course Moksha.
Traditionally asylum,jails, far off lands would effectively separate spouses for very extended periods.
Again just speculation.
Just an idea - An astrological divorce in vedic terms may just be all the significations of the 12th house.
Seclusion, confinement, living in a far foreign land and of course Moksha.
Traditionally asylum,jails, far off lands would effectively separate spouses for very extended periods.
Again just speculation.
Pam & Kateyp,
Thank you for your responses but I still would like to know what ---- specifically, an astrological rule or non-Western influenced "soul lesson" interpretation ---- that indicates the 'divorce' in-regards to unmarried parents of children.
To be clear, I'm not seeking emotional comfort or interpersonal woman-speak. I am not in an ego or emotional conflict over my current situation, I don't need to be consoled. I believe that I have a valid question that is applicable to various people that lacks Jyotish discussion.
The Father and I appear to manifest continually as a married couple (the unusualness of the 'marriage' is evident from our charts). I believed it to be important to include the details that show that the adherence to 'family' prevails, which indicates that a 'dissolution' or the 'marriage' has not yet occurred. Many unmarried parents eventually do 'marry', usually to someone else. One would assume that a 'divorce' occurred...unless these are situations of plural marriage - which would be interesting.
Since my child was born during the start of my Rahu Dasha, I wonder if the unusual unity between the father and I would cease when this Dasha ends, which would correspond with my son being 18. As my son is disabled, for his lifetime, I equally wonder if this 'marriage' would continue longer. As spouses have a direct effect upon each other, and both the father and I have probably do not have the most beneficial 1st marriage influences, it is a practical question, especially for matters of health.
I do not mean to disrespect those who are seeking emotional guidance, but this post needs to guard against appropriation that will emotionalize it or 'New Age' it. If there are "lessons" (presumably, for the "soul") specifically quote the Brihat Parashara Hora Shastra. And while doing so, please answer How Do You Read Divorce With Unmarried Parents. It could be that I'm choosing the wrong forum....though it seemed like the obvious right one at the time.
P.S All Software has proven that Capricorn is the correct Lagna for Navamsa, this would place Shukra in the 12th house.
Note: I made a mistake, Father has the following:
Him: Aug/5/1978 6:50pm (not 7:50pm) San Jose, CA, USA
Thank you for your responses but I still would like to know what ---- specifically, an astrological rule or non-Western influenced "soul lesson" interpretation ---- that indicates the 'divorce' in-regards to unmarried parents of children.
To be clear, I'm not seeking emotional comfort or interpersonal woman-speak. I am not in an ego or emotional conflict over my current situation, I don't need to be consoled. I believe that I have a valid question that is applicable to various people that lacks Jyotish discussion.
The Father and I appear to manifest continually as a married couple (the unusualness of the 'marriage' is evident from our charts). I believed it to be important to include the details that show that the adherence to 'family' prevails, which indicates that a 'dissolution' or the 'marriage' has not yet occurred. Many unmarried parents eventually do 'marry', usually to someone else. One would assume that a 'divorce' occurred...unless these are situations of plural marriage - which would be interesting.
Since my child was born during the start of my Rahu Dasha, I wonder if the unusual unity between the father and I would cease when this Dasha ends, which would correspond with my son being 18. As my son is disabled, for his lifetime, I equally wonder if this 'marriage' would continue longer. As spouses have a direct effect upon each other, and both the father and I have probably do not have the most beneficial 1st marriage influences, it is a practical question, especially for matters of health.
I do not mean to disrespect those who are seeking emotional guidance, but this post needs to guard against appropriation that will emotionalize it or 'New Age' it. If there are "lessons" (presumably, for the "soul") specifically quote the Brihat Parashara Hora Shastra. And while doing so, please answer How Do You Read Divorce With Unmarried Parents. It could be that I'm choosing the wrong forum....though it seemed like the obvious right one at the time.
P.S All Software has proven that Capricorn is the correct Lagna for Navamsa, this would place Shukra in the 12th house.
Note: I made a mistake, Father has the following:
Him: Aug/5/1978 6:50pm (not 7:50pm) San Jose, CA, USA
Yes your are right on the first part of your statement... in a typical vedic ritual marriage, with Vedic mantras chanting and blessings from witnesses like Hinduc Brahmin Pundits, Elders from both families, and the same evidences of marriage, video/photographs/ invitation card etc for documentations submitted to court, to avail marriage certificate.meriw wrote:It is my understanding, from what I have read, that astrological valid Marriage occurs either from the actual ceremony/legal commitment - or - when a child is born (unmarried/Out-of-Wedlock).
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Child is born before marriage ( unmarried) doesn't elicit a reference to marriage happened. The customs of India or Hindu tradition is different " First Night" after the marriage, that night is called termed as First night.
However unmarried females can adopt a baby before her marriage after satisfying legal and NGO compliance requirements. India law allows for adopting a baby/kid before marriage.
I am sorry, your post was more sentenced words, I didn't go entirely, anything specify queries, you may point wise you can address, will be happy to revert, if time permits for me, through K.P.System of astrology, a Vedic astrology branch
