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Starting you own business, being your own boss is a honorable quest to chase for many believers in fate. Firstly because it gives you some level of control of over your life and secondly if anything goes wrong you'll have your own choice to blame for. If you want to start your own business you must first understand that there are risks involved and that you'll either be rich or pauper, so unless you are deeply passionate about and willing to pour your heart and soul into it you shouldn't be choosing that path.

Your source of income can be anything, nature does not distinguish between your career in service or business but as long you have a source of income your chart is functioning as it should. But if you want to make the best use of the houses involved and optimize your quality of income then you'd have to make use of astrology.

1. To start with you must analyze your 2, 6 and 10th house from the Ascendant. No, its not the 11th house of gains, 11th cannot motivate you to start your own business but it gives you satisfaction after you have started one and settled into it.

2. Note down the the houses and signs involved. Do not use bhava chalit chart or any other sort of cuspal chart but instead take each sign as a single house.

3. If 2, 6 and 10 lords are strong, i.e, they are unafflicted and in positive houses in D1 (2,6,10,11, skip 5 and 9).

4. Now move on to signs involved. By default Aquarius, Taurus and Libra in D1 have the highest affinity towards business.

5. Check the same planets in the navamsa. Understand this very carefully, you must first note down the sign involved in D1 and then move on to D9.

6. I'll share a few examples so that you can get an idea as to what kind business you could start.

1. Aries Asc with 2L Venus in Taurus with Taurus D9 - banking, jewelry.
2. Venus in 26 to 27 degrees in Taurus - bore-wells, construction, automobiles
3. 10L Saturn in Taurus D9 - Furniture
4. Cancer Asc, 2L Sun in Aries D9 - Gym, Fitness training, Security Services etc
5. Mercury (2,6,10) in Virgo D9 - Agro products, Medicines
6. Mercury in Libra D9 - Groceries, Clothing, Fancy items
7. Mercury in Cancer D9 - Schools, Nurseries, Toys
8. Venus in Aquarius D9 - Hotels, Restuarants, Bars, cinema, entertainment, luxury
9. Saturn in Capricorn D9 - Oil and Natural gas, fast food outlets, appliances
10.Jupiter in Aquarius D9 - naturopathy, Ayurvedic medicines
11. Rahu in Gemini D9 - Communications, Computers, Marketing
12. Mars/Rahu in Libra/Capricorn D9 - Transportation
13. Mercury/Rahu in Aquarius D9 - trading, investing, insurance
14. Mars in Scorpio D9 - Detective Schools, Driving, Licensing, research centric labs, poisons, insecticides, fertilizers
15. Jupiter/Mars in Sag D9 - Law school, tutions, skill training, sports

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Also looking at your D3 is important as it indicates body parts that are constantly involved with regard to affliction as well as gains. Whenever starting a business you have to look into the kind of losses and accidents that can occur for which you should be prepared for

Body parts:
1. Aries - head, throat, belly
2. Taurus - Right Eye, Right Shoulder, genitals
3. Gemini - Right Ear, Right Arm, testicles
4. Cancer - Right Nostril, Right Womb, Thigh
5. Leo - Cheek, Heart, Knee
6. Virgo - Chin, Abdomen, Thigh
7. Libra - Mouth, Navel, Leg
8. Scorpio - Chin, Abdomen, Thigh
9. Sagittarius - Cheek, Thigh, Heart
10.Capricorn -Left nostril, Left Womb, Thigh
11.Aquarius - Left ear, left arm, testicles
12.Pisces - Left eye, Left Shoulder, Genitals

Points to remember

1. Wherever Moon is involved you have to assume there will be losses
2. Wherever fixed signs are involved there you shouldn't start a business that involves transportation, appliances and machinery. When dual signs are involved you should be ready to constantly upgrade your business as per the changing trends.
3. When there is a parivarthana (exchange) you should avoid doing any business
4. Understand the nakshatras involved - for example Kritika nakshatra symbolises cutting, so it can be cutting of wood, rocks or even precious metals depending on the amsa and the planet involved.
5. Wherever Rahu is involved it indicates large scale business, internet, computing etc. Like Rahu and Mars in Taurus D9 gives you boost in real estate.
6. Understand the Vastu mechanics of your business (I regret not going into this). Avoid North facing doors, raised platforms involving garage, toilets, storage etc
7. If the chart doesn't show profit in business then you'd have to check whether partnerships can workout. For example: 4, 8, 12 shows partnerships with your in-laws. Rahu shows partners who can deceive you with regard to business, ketu shows loyal but poor partners.
8. Avoid doing business involving astrology, spiritual science, vedic literature...this can set you back a few centuries and affects your children (5th house)- making them either dull or autistic.
9. Be very careful when doing business involving metals. If your Saturn is weak then you must avoid any sort of metal business.
10. Retrograde planets do not give early gains
11. A planet in isolation cannot give you gains, for example: Venus in Pisces without any planets in aries or Aquarius is considered weak
12. Avoid nadiamsas such as Brahmi, Pasa and Kalakoota for business
13. Use the murhurtha and panchaka system for transactions - thithi, vaara, nakshatra, yoga and karana.
14. Birth Vishkumba yoga can give you gains if partnered with an individual born in Sukarma yoga
15. Use proper names for your business - avoid naming it after Goddess Lakshmi or your children. Avoid syllables involving - Pa, Fa, Bha, Ma in the middle and end. Cha, Jha, Gha, Ka, tha is more appropriate. For example: UB Group, KingFIsher, InFOsys, WiPRo, aPPle are the names indicative of losses in the long term, many of these businesses underwent huge losses, incurred debts and had to resort to loans. Where as names such as VolVo, KrishniAHCHEtty, BaJAJ gives more financial stability.

I hope this article gave you enough information for you to look into. Remember, birth chart analysis is an extremely tedious process and takes many hours of careful scrutiny, so take this article as a starting point.

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I'd like to explain a little bit more about the signs

Among the earth signs, Taurus and Capricorn show minerals. Taurus indicates precious refined minerals and Capricorn ores and ordinary minerals used for many industrial and construction purposes. Virgo shows things that are on the surface such as crops, herbs and vegetation.

The earth signs are also affected by seasons, like Virgo shows produce according to seasons/weather they represent which is why it is a semi-fruitful dual sign, it can either be barren or fruitful depending on the season.

Capricorn represents minerals such as iron, copper, lead etc. They too are affected by seasons as many of the minerals deteriorate when exposed to air.

So when starting a business related to earth signs you have to keep in mind the seasonal changes that affects your profit. Similarly, you have to keep your health in mind - such as 8th house falling in an earth sign affects your health as per the changing seasons.

It is important to remember that the earth signs show anything that is extracted from the earth. From cotton comes clothing, but the nice clothing comes from Taurus. Gold comes from Taurus but its ore comes from Capricorn.

Moving further I hope you understood the nature of the dual signs, they keep changing as per the circumstances around you. Since Virgo is an earth sign it is affected by the weather but signs such as Gemini, Pisces and Sagittarius is not affected by weather but they too keep changing and finding out why can be a real task. For example Sagittarius being a fiery dual sign it can be affected by the transit of Sun in different signs, Gemini is affected by sound and speech in the surroundings and Pisces is dependent on the flow of liquids.

If your Gemini falls in 2, 6 and 10 then you'd have to make use of speech and communicate with others in order to sell your products. You'll notice many street sellers in India effectively making use of their voice in order to sell whatever they have. So, without the right sound Gemini cannot be fruitful.

Similarly, among air signs Libra and Aquarius is affected the quality of the air it represents. Libra is attracted to different scents - perfumes of different nature which will help attract customers. Aquarius is attracted mostly by scent of Food, wine, oil and also anything which smells unpleasant.

Movable signs show things that are constantly in motion such as time, heart beat, mind etc so starting any business in the wrong time will eventually lead to losses. If you want to transport goods you have to do it within the right time otherwise you'd stand to lose a lot of money. So being in the right place at the right time is important for movable signs.

And lastly Movable signs show the beginning, the fixed denote the present and dual signs the future of any event. In the natural zodiac Pisces is a sign which shows the end, which means no matter what sign or house anything you start will have to end unless you show some flexibility towards changing the way you conduct your business. If you had a book store you'd have done well 20 years ago but now in the age of electronic media and ebook readers people hardly read physical copies of any book and many of them are switching to Audio books. We are in the age of Rahu - wireless transmission of wealth and information and in this age having an online presence affects how well you succeed in your business.

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Good stuff, elipsis.
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Hello Elipsis ji,

"3. If 2, 6 and 10 lords are strong, i.e, they are unafflicted and in positive houses in D1 (2,6,10,11, skip 5 and 9)."

Do you mean that when 2,6,10 lords fall in 5 and 9 they are not considered good for business?
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Anything related to 5th and 9th house is not good for business. They are meant for fortune which includes good things that affect people - such as children, intelligence, education, God's grace, past life credits and not exactly money making through transaction with strangers. Business is a very grey area of money making and it involves bending the rules, cutting corners and doing things that aren't supported by Dharmic Trine (1, 5 and 9). So in your case I advice you to think many times before starting any business because that many planets in the 5th is bound to cause huge losses.
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Congrats Ellipsis-ji on your 2000th post...! One would've thought Bhagya houses 1,5, 9 are of paramount importance when running a business. Apparently not so.

On that topic, how rare (or common) is a "Maha Bhagya" horoscope? I've heard about it in one of the Shrimali youtube videos online. For women, Ascendant and ASC lord in even sign, Sun and Moon in even signs, night-time birth between sunset and sunrise. For men, its ASC and ASC lord in odd sign, Sun and Moon in odd sign, day-time birth after sunrise and before sunset.

What is the significance in addition to the usual yogas, dasha/transits etc? TIA!

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tanmish wrote:Congrats Ellipsis-ji on your 2000th post...
Thank you.
On that topic, how rare (or common) is a "Maha Bhagya" horoscope? I've heard about it in one of the Shrimali youtube videos online. For women, Ascendant and ASC lord in even sign, Sun and Moon in even signs, night-time birth between sunset and sunrise. For men, its ASC and ASC lord in odd sign, Sun and Moon in odd sign, day-time birth after sunrise and before sunset.

What is the significance in addition to the usual yogas, dasha/transits etc? TIA!

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I honestly find no practical difference between Bhagya and Maha Bhagya yogas - the latter may be dependent on the yoga at birth because nithya yoga plays a role when it comes to measuring the distance between luminaries, any yoga related to sun and moon is highly dependent on the day of birth (thithi, vaar, nakshatra, yoga and karna) but still ordinary combinations are lauded and given special names - that's what yogas are. The real question is do they work? Here is a horoscope I came across on this forum: 15th Feb 2005, 10.10 AM, Male,Jangaon-AP. The child suffered a major accident on 30th March 2014, if it survived because of its maha bhagya yoga then I must say mother nature has a very poor taste when it comes to rewarding people.

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Ann wrote:Hi Elipsis

Brilliant post - next thing how would you tell if someone is careful with the business's money and cash flow - the importance of cash flow is the float or sink of a business after all. I suspect that most earth sign bosses would be excellent in this case.

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Yes, earth signs are the best as they would help you hoard as much profits as possible, and because they don't encourage any sort of expansion or reinvestment you'd have to make use of planets that aren't so greedy - like Jupiter and Ketu. Jupiter in earth signs will help you in expanding your wealth and Ketu gives you loyal employees and partners.
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Workings of yogas is not as simple as pick and choose which is usually the case with enthusiasts. This is similar to picking a planet and attributing it to all good/bad things happening in a chart. Yogas are given names for reference and a result is associated to those names. This one should not get carried away with names e.g. Kemdrum occurs in many ways. So at times yogas are classified under an umbrella name and other other times yogas are without names. And obviously one should not cherry pick planets, simplistic or even complicated yogas without considering strengths. This is the basic advice in Jyotish in any text that lists fundamentals.
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I don't think yogas of parashari are associated with the result they represent especially in the present times, sometimes minor combinations are blown out of proportion and given names that make people go wow at some point. Names such as Gajakesari or Samrajya, such a combination would provide nothing better than a good family life. Now, people can justify a yoga with any number of excuses but none of them would be able to successfully demonstrate or predict the result as descriptive as the yoga represents. I believe the application of astrology lies in its practicality and not in some grand philosophy or the religious hierarchy it generates, to me its just a science just like biology and chemistry but to stand by the subjective doodlings of ancient thinkers may work as a therapy for modern society but not applicable in practice. It's about time people listened to reason, its quite an important weapon when stepping into these dangerous waters.

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Yogas when given adjective type names are associated with similar results and are not arbitrary. Those results come to pass based on strengths and of course desh, kaal, patra figures as that is one of the other tenets of Jyotish. Yes people blow yoga 'names' out of proportion but they also blow 'results' out of proportion. For e.g. say 9L in 2H which is a generic dhan yog and many people don't even know its one of the dhan yogas yet they blow the results they read in a text out of proportion. So doesn't matter if the yoga 'name' or 'result' is blown out of proportion because its really just people's ignorance being out of proportion.

With appropriate strength a gaj kesari can do wonders or even a 9L in 2H can. Without appropriate strength it can only do so much. People can justify anything in Astrology with N number of excuses be it yogas, single placement results, D chart dance, Bhava chart boogie woogie, KP kathakali, you name it. Most of these people can't predict any real results descriptive or succinct ...even if their life depended on it.

Yes for the everyday person Astrology comes down to usefulness but it is going to be related to esoteric phenomena for the common man (i.e. religion, spirituality etc.) because just the act of someone telling the future has spiritual/Godly vibes to it. And the Sages who wrote the original texts were spiritual / religious so we as ignorants need to comprehend their point of view with available texts and appropriate Gurus. It becomes largely objective to the one who finally gets it. For the rest of us, its just conversation.
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sir. please tell something about this person(my colleague). he lost his job in nov 2014.
he wants to do business. will partnership suits him. he is running his shukra mahadasha. earlier in budh mahadasha he had computer related business. but his partner cheated him.
his details are
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No, I don't think partnership or business will good for him. He should try looking for a regular job.
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Re: Starting your own business
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sir. please tell something about this person(my colleague). he lost his job in nov 2014.
he wants to do business. will partnership suits him. he is running his shukra mahadasha. earlier in budh mahadasha he had computer related business. but his partner cheated him.
his details are
dinesh.
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kandhla( mujaffernagar)
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Your friend can do the business related to marketing/ trading of medicines/ precious metals like gold etc. 7L[Business]

Mars is very well placed in Lagna along with 9L[Mercury, business] a Rajyoga in the sign Libra[Business] aspected by 3L[Jupiter, management]. Presently he is under Venus-Jupiter[Both are Vargottama].
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both the answers are contradictoires. he had 3 kids and having no work or money. his wife is doing stitching work. even his salary was small. a big part was used in giving medicines to needy and cows.
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both the answers are contradictoires. he had 3 kids and having no work or money. his wife is doing stitching work. even his salary was small. a big part was used in giving medicines to needy and cows.
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vandna79 wrote:both the answers are contradictoires. he had 3 kids and having no work or money. his wife is doing stitching work. even his salary was small. a big part was used in giving medicines to needy and cows.
If you read this topic you'll know how to work it out yourself. That's why I write these topics, its not for me to determine each and every choice you make but I only provide the right tools so that you could use them and make smart choices on your own.

I said "Wherever Moon is involved you have to assume there will be losses". So Moon in his 6th house will bring him losses

Also "When there is a parivarthana (exchange) you should avoid doing any business". Means Mars and Venus exchange does not give him wealth through partnership.

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elipsis wrote:I don't think yogas of parashari are associated with the result they represent especially in the present times, sometimes minor combinations are blown out of proportion and given names that make people go wow at some point. Names such as Gajakesari or Samrajya, such a combination would provide nothing better than a good family life. Now, people can justify a yoga with any number of excuses but none of them would be able to successfully demonstrate or predict the result as descriptive as the yoga represents. I believe the application of astrology lies in its practicality and not in some grand philosophy or the religious hierarchy it generates, to me its just a science just like biology and chemistry but to stand by the subjective doodlings of ancient thinkers may work as a therapy for modern society but not applicable in practice. It's about time people listened to reason, its quite an important weapon when stepping into these dangerous waters.

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Our Sages like Garga Maharishi or Parashar Rishi et.al were extraordinary genius in deciphering Astronomy and Astrology. Their works in Treta yuga ( and now we are in Kalyuga), and they can reach out to Almighty with their extraordinary Dharma, meditations, meditated for more than 500 years ( our life span in Kaliyuga is 100 yrs + maximum 120 years, with rarest of rare 150+ yrs). Therefore, our sages contributed to astrology works which will be ever eternal, nobody can disapprove nor no one can challenge, because in Treta Yuga, Lord Rama born as a human has to reach out to Sage Vashistar for remedy in defeating Ravan.

Therefore, we humans cannot compete with our sages in their astrology works, related to yoga techniques etc, nor we can copy and paste slokas of our sages in this Kaliyuga to motivate querists for materialistic gains or emotionally motivating oneself and others. In today's IT or medical field, human has to develop intelligence or develop akin to our sages works without compromising their works and evolve Predictive Jyotisam. I am sure, Sages knows in kaliyuga, humans are selfish and will corrupt their works by frauds etc, therefore if you one looks the Predictive part is more or less kept in dark ( like Dronacharya never taught His son,Aswattama, about retrieving back brahmastra, for doing that sin, Aswattama been cursed by Lord Krishna.

Inorder to understand better evolution of predictive astrology is a must, only a capable person been blessed by Guru and Shani can decipher that part without compromising Nadi, Prashar sastra and bhava. You will find person, as if the person will think been coached in Treta yuga or spokesperson of Treta yuga in Kaliyuga will write in the post of research items or works without understanding how the research been done. There would be fancy words in writings like kathakali (unless the writer performs the same and knows the techniques) and will not understand bhava predictions. Our sages foretold, Hey Giri, look at nirayana rasi and predict from bhava. ( Giri means astrologer or an analyst)
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vandna79 wrote:both the answers are contradictoires. he had 3 kids and having no work or money. his wife is doing stitching work. even his salary was small. a big part was used in giving medicines to needy and cows.
Hi

How sure are you about the correct time of birth ?

I haven't casted his chart yet, you say he was born in Nov, therefore Ravi should be transiting from Thula to Vrischika.... Nirayana position

Someone said Yoga, Budha ( nineth lord, I have to see whether nineth or eighth csp lord through K.P), Kuja, 2nd and 7th lord in lagna and aspected by Guru. Guru is 6th lord... how can yoga can pronounce the effect, and Budha is also 12th lord
...forget about Vargottama etc
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Hi Vandna ji

I just casted your friend's natal chart. I analyze through K.P. System

At the time of populating the natal chart, today is Monday, Chandra. In the Heaven's map, at the time and the latitude I was in, the rising lagna was transiting in Gemini, Budha in Mrigasirsam nk, Kuja and in sub of Shukra, in another sign of Budha, Rahu is lording today ( it represents Ravi and Budha) and conjoined with Kuja. Today Chandra transiting in Thula, Shukra and in Chitra nk, Kuja ( and in rapt conjunction with Shukra), Kuja aspects Ketu, Ketu represents Guru

Lets see your friend's lagna sputa cusp
falls in Thula or Libra ( Shukra) in Chitra nk, Kuja in sub of Shukra, and Shukra in Anuraddha nk

Lets check time of birth... is it correct?
in his chart, Kuja and Budha are in rapt conjunction ( joint results) and
Budha is 9th lord
Kuja and Budha are in Visakam nk, Guru aspects Shani, 4th lord
sub..Shukra, conjoined with Rahu ( Rahu represents Kuja and Budha)
...time of birth is correct

Lets see from his Chandra
Chandra in Uttiratathi nk, Shani is 4th lord, and in sub of Kuja...Kuja ...I have explained above

Time of birth is correct too

you said he is blessed with three kids

Lets see from his wife's lagna sputa cusp, in Mesha
5th cusp falls in Simha in Magham in sub of Guru and Guru in Stabhista nk
Guru in 11th in his wife's chart, She is blessed, as natural putra karaka aspects even 5th cusp
Rahu represents Kuja and Shani
Shani in Guru's star in a dual sign
Kuja and Budha are in rapt conjunction, Budha again a dual sign lord

..your friend would have been blessed a twins or even a triplets?

You said, his wife stitches cloth and makes up money
cloth karaka is Shukra
lets see her 10th cusp, that is husband's 4th cusp
in Uttarashada(Makara sign) in sub of Budha, Budha in 7th ( for her Budha is 3rd and 6th cuspal lord)
Budha and Kuja are in rapt conjunction and both are in 7th in Guru's star, and Guru in 11th
Budha... karaka for thread.. Kuja... effort karaka
when she stitches clothes for somebody and gets money ( her 7th cusp lord is Shukra and her 2nd cusp lord is too Shukra)
Her 2nd bhava needs analysis because she acquired natural and learning intelligence over the period for stitiching
Ketu is a karaka for editing and if involved in surgery , Kuja should be the sign, if it is cloth, Shukra sign
Ketu in her 2nd bhava... Ketu is strong
Ketu gets aspect from Shukra and Ravi ( both Shukra and Ravi are in Shani's star), Shani is in 3rd for her and lord of 10 and 11
...so it is inevitable, Ketu by Lording Shukra and in Rohini nk ( Chandra, 4th cuspal lord in 12th).. promotes stitching work for material gains. Shani is vakri in the chart, therefore, whenever Shani goes vakri every year, that period will be always good for material gains and work gains.

Why your friend didn't do well in Business.... continued
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..contd

Unlike service industry (6th cusp will tell), for business 7th cusp will convey what it is stored. There can be possibility, from business to service profession and vice-versa, in one Dasha it can be business, one dasa gains , one dasa losses , one dasa plus minus and one dasa in service

Lets see why did he fail in business Shukra dasa
Shukra is his lagna lord as well as eighth lord ( therefore one has to analyze both bhava when grahas (except Ravi and Chandra) holds two cusps in a natal chart or even more than two cuspal lordships.
Shukra in 2nd in Shani's star ( Shani is an earthy sign lord) cuspal lords of 4 and 5 ( 5th bhava is not an Earthy sign, i.e. 11th to partner for gains) in 9th ( 3rd from 7th.. more of communication from partner, 8th from Shukra's placement) in subof Rahu, Rahu in 2nd. Rahu represents Kuja and Budha, both are in lagna, they are in Guru's star
Now Rahu-Guru aspect, Shukra-Guru aspect..are squared, Guru is significator for 2nd bhava... 2nd denotes legitimate bank balance
In this dasa period, heaven's map pretold, there would be least flow of transactions in bank balance, as both Shukra and Guru are natural significators for cashflow

Lets see his business, why didn't succeed
7th cusp falls in Mesha in Ketu's star and sub of Chandra
Chandra in 6th
6th bhava is not a Earthy sign, but it is a watery sign or mute sign.. not good for business, it will drain, Chandra is sub therefore fast influx of money as well as fast losses too
Now lets see Chandra's depositions
Chandra in Utiratati nk in sub of Kuja
Kuja is conjunct with Budha, so joint results
Chandra in dual sign, Shanidev in dual sign
..Partnership involved
Shani is not placed in earthy sign, again issue, though Shani is an Earthy sign lord
Kuja and Budha in Thula, again not an earthy sign, though Budha is an earthy sign lord but it is 12th lord, which is gain to partner

In his chart, none of the grahas are placed in earthy sign, therefore there is least material gains for your friend in Business per se. He has to take up only Service industry
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dear sir
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dear lex.
thanks for ur valuable suggestion s
regards
vandna
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Dear sir

DOB : 18-4-1992
time 19.55
place : Beawar(Rajasthan) india

what is in store for him with continuous academic failures.

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