UK PAST AND FUTURE - David Cameron

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UK PAST AND FUTURE - David Cameron


David Cameron was born on October 9th 1966 at 6 am at London 51N30 0W10 GDT h1e (Daylight Saving Time.).

This is a fairly strong horoscope. Virgo rises with an exchange between the first and the second lords Mercury and Venus. The fifth and ninth lords aspect each other. Venus is close to the Lagna degree and though debilitated, has gained neechabhanga, is involved in an exchange and is placed in its own house in the Navamsa.

Jupiter is exalted and in conjunction with the Moon which is placed in its own house in the eleventoh. This is a strong Gajkesari Yoga. Jupiter is aspecting Saturn in a close orb which indicates some stability in the career.
What is of immediate interest is;-

(a) The position of the Sun in the Lagna opposed by Saturn in the seventh house, a classic Sun / Saturn opposition.

(b) Sun Dasa has just started in June. The Dasa Sandhi influence of Venus MD close
and Sun MD start.

(c) the movements of Jupiter and Saturn are similar to those that obtained during the Suez crises in 1956/57 when the then Prime Minister Anthony Eden had to resign.

These planetary movements and influences, both past and present, which when placed under scrutiny, will throw some light on the future. This could be of interest especially on account of
his recent electoral victory.
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In the horoscope of David Cameron the Dasa of Sun/Mars lasts roughly from mid March 2016 to July 2016 and that of Sun/Rahu from July 2016 to June 2017. These sub periods especially that of Rahu could have very negative repercussions on the career of David Cameron.

Jupiter enters Virgo on 11th August 2016 and Libra on 12th Sept 2017. Jupiter will be transiting the third from his natal Moon which may prove somewhat adverse.

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The negative trends could operate roughly upto the close of the Sun Dasa which lasts upto June 2021, but the severity could be upto January 2020. It could be around January 2020 that the trends improve significantly.

To appreciate the movement of Jupiter we have to study the past. The unexpected victory of the Conservative Party in the 1992 elections ( the polls having given the Labour leader a slight edge in the polls) gave a boost to the career of David Cameron (who had been given the job of briefing John Major in his press conferences). and he became a special advisor to the then Chancellor of the Exchequer Norman Lamont.

The elections were held on 9th April 1992 and the Conservatives secured 376 seats in a house of 651.
Jupiter was at 11 degrees Leo.

Jupiter was in Leo from 14th August 1991 to 11th Sept 1992.

Jupiter was in Virgo from 11th Sept 1992 to 12th Oct 1993.

What of course changed the buoyant trends was Black Wednesday.


In politics and economics Black Wednesday refers to 16 September 1992 when the British
Conservative government was forced to withdraw the pound sterling from the European
Exchange Rate Mechanism (ERM) after it was unable to keep the pound above its agreed lower
limit in the ERM.

George Soros, the most high-profile of the currency market speculators, made
over £1 billion in profit by short selling sterling. In 1997 the UK Treasury put the estimated cost of Black Wednesday as 3.4 billion pounds sterling.


Cameron was working with Lamont at the time of Black Wednesday when pressure from currency speculators forced the Pound sterling out of the European Exchange Mechanism.
Lamont later fell out with John Major the then Prime Minister and became highly unpopular with the public. Taxes were also raised at that time and the poll rating of the Conservative Party fell below 30% and remained there till the 1997 elections when there was the changing of the guard. Lamont was sacked at the end of May 1993.

Taking the events in 1956 and 1992, developments could occur that reduce the Conservative Govt to the status of a lame duck Govt, or a change of guard could take place with the Labour Party emerging as a powerful force after 2020/2021.

Further probing and analysis could bring forth a clearer picture.
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. Sat Nov 28, 2015 3:12 am
In the horoscope of David Cameron the Dasa of Sun/Mars lasts roughly from mid March 2016
to July 2016 and that of Sun/Rahu from July 2016 to June 2017. These sub periods especially
that of Rahu could have very negative repercussions on the career of David Cameron.
Jupiter enters Virgo on 11th August 2016 and Libra on 12th Sept 2017. Jupiter will be
transiting the third from his natal Moon which may prove somewhat adverse.
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/04 ... rs-amid-o/
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. The negative trends could operate roughly upto the close of the Sun Dasa which lasts upto
June 2021, but the severity could be upto January 2020. It could be around January 2020 that
the trends improve significantly.


http://www.theguardian.com/news/2016/ap ... rs-fallout
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The planetary influences in the current phase indicates that the adverse trends could get aggravated after the start of Sun/Rahu around 25th July especially after transit Jupiter moves into Virgo, on the 11th of August. This could be a very negative phase for David Cameron, with problems surfacing from many directions.

The trends could hit a rock bottom during Sun/Saturn (Sun MD Saturn AD ) operating roughly from April 2018 to March 2019, with the negative influences predominating throughout 2019. At that time transit Saturn in Sagittarius will be aspecting the Sun which will also be the MD lord situated in his Lagna. That could be one of the most challenging periods in his life.
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In order to get clarity on the political situation in the United Kingdom, the planetary alignments in relation to the other major leaders in the Conservative Party have to be scrutinized. The next most important person in the cabinet is George Osborne the Chancellor of the Exchequer and the First Secretary of the State making him in effect the second in command.

He was born on 23rd May 1971 at Paddington, London. As his birth time is not available a noon chart is analysed. He has Mercury, Venus and the Moon in Aries. Saturn and Sun in Taurus and Jupiter in Scorpio. Mars and Rahu are in Capricorn.

If one takes his career trajectory from 1994 when he joined the Conservative Research Department, a springboard for Tory politicians, as the political secretary to William Hague in 1997 after the Conservative defeat, a rising star after he entered the Parliament in 2001, his election to the shadow cabinet between 2003 to 2005 by Michael Howard, shadow chancellor in 2005 a position solidified by the appointment of his friend David Cameron as the Conservative leader in December 2005, a pattern emerges. He became the Chancellor of the Exchequer in the May 2010 coalition government, and again in 2015 with an added rank of First Secretary of State.

Transit Saturn opposes his natal Sun and is transiting in the 8th from his natal Moon. The Dasa as per the noon chart is the tail end of Rahu with Jupiter just around the corner. Jupiter is placed in the 8th from Moon. Prima facie these are strong headwinds. Jupiter by transit could set his career on a different trajectory by intent or due to circumstances beyond his control within the next few years. Though the exact nature of the result would depend on the exact or approximate time of birth, it is apparent that the negative influences are more in evidence in the short term.
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The Suez crises in which Prime Minister Anthony Eden of the Conservative Party suffered a major setback which led to a breakdown in his health and his subsequent resignation occurred between September 29th 1956 and November 7th 1956. Jupiter moved from 23 degrees Leo to 1 degrees Virgo. Saturn moved from 6 degrees Scorpio to 10 degrees Scorpio. Anthony Eden resigned on 9th January 1957. Jupiter was at 8 degrees Virgo and Saturn at 17 degrees Scorpio.

Black Wednesday occurred on 16th September 1992.At that time Jupiter had just entered Virgo at 0 degrees.

The flashpoint here is the Nakshatra Uttaraphalguni which covers the last 3.20 degrees of Leo (Sidereal) and the first 10 degrees of Virgo.

The General Election held on 1st May 1997 which resulted in the massive defeat of the Conservative Party occurred when Rahu was at 2 degrees in Virgo. The eclipses occur in the vicinity of the Rahu Kethu axis.

Transit Rahu has crossed this point and is now at 26 degrees Leo.

The dates of the eclipses that have occurred this year and which are in the pipeline are March 9th, March 23rd, September 1st and September 16th.

As Jupiter moves into Virgo in mid August developments could occur that stretch into January 2017 which could impact the Conservative Party. September, October and November 2016 could be pivotal months.
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Hi,

Brilliant piece for those who are interested in UK politics

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Dear Haresh
Hats off to you for writing so detailed analysis.
Great efforts.
God bless you
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Hi,

Thanks for the compliments.

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Sadiq Khan the Mayor elect of the city of London was born on 8th October 1970 and David Cameron 9th October 1966.

October borns are people oriented and are found in people oriented professions and are among others, brokers, arbitrators and at a higher octave, professors, politicians, actors and actresses and there is an impressive line up - Mahatma Gandhi, Lal Bahadur Shashtri, Margaret Thatcher, Jimmy Carter, Vladimir Putin and films personalities including Amitabh Bachchan, Hema Malini etc etc.

Sadiq Khan, David Cameron, and Margaret Thatcher all have their Suns placed in Virgo (Sidereal), Sadiq Khan has his at 21 degrees, David Cameron has his Sun at 22 degrees and Margaret Thatcher had hers at 26 degrees.

What is interesting in the horoscope of Khan here is the placement of Sun and Moon in angles. A noon chart has his Moon in Sagittarius in the nakshatra Poorvashadha . Transit Saturn is now in Scorpio. This is the first leg of the Sade Sati. Transit Jupiter is in the 9th from the Moon, a transit, which when aided by directional influences brings victory and euphoria. That is the peak. Now Saturn moves closer to the Moon and Jupiter, in the days and months ahead moves into the 10th and 11th from Moon and on 11th October 2018 it moves into Scorpio into the 12th from Moon. Saturn at that time will be at 9 degrees Sagittarius aspecting his Sun.

The Dasa at that time for Sadiq Khan according to a noon chart will be Jupiter MD Saturn AD. David Cameron has his Sun MD Saturn AD from April 2018 to March 2019.

These are both critical Dasa Bhuktis, and could prove unfavourable to both of them possibly resulting in a break in their careers. Saturn will be at 9 degrees Sagittarius. Around February 11th 2019 transit Saturn at 21 degrees Sagittarius will be closely aspecting both their natal Suns placed at 21 and 22 degrees respectively. Saturn will moving closely over Khan's Moon.

At that time Saturn will be closely conjoined his Moon and strongly aspecting his Sun in Virgo. Khan the son the of a bus driver is now the Mayor of London. His predecessor was Boris Johnson the colorful and popular Mayor. Johnson of course released his tax returns which reveal he is a highly paid columnist. Then there are links between David Cameron and Rupert Murdoch and there are of course off shore havens.

Saturn's transit of the Nakshatras Poorvashadha and Uttarashadha of Sagittarius have coincided with landmark events in England and more especially in the City of London. Poorvashadha of course is known for violent or untoward events.

On 22nd November 1990, Margaret Thatcher stepped down from office after her party refused to back her in the second round of elections. At that time Saturn was at 27 degrees Sagittarius closely aspecting her natal Sun at 26 degrees Virgo. This was a result of a string of disputes including that of Britain's involvement in the European Union.

About 350 years ago when Saturn was at 24 degrees Sagittarius there was fire in the City of London known as the Great Fire. The event occurred on 2nd September 1666 (OS) (12th September 1666 (NS)), and was anticipated about 14 years prior to the event by the legendary astrologer William Lilly.

The transit of Saturn in Sagittarius after Jupiter moves into Scorpio could have negative repercussions on both the Mayor of London and the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom.
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To get a clear idea of the what the near future has for the Conservative Party, one can draw a political parallel, from the political developments of the not too distant past, closer home.

In May 2004 the Congress garnered 218 seats and formed a coalition government. The UPA had a comfortable number of 335 out of 543 seats.

In May 2009 the Congress won 262 votes and the Govt. was formed with other allies without the Left Front. Here the support came from 322 members and due to the increase in the seats by the Congress by about 44 seats, (which was the number of seats it would get in the elections in 2014) this supposedly had the makings of a victory lap which would carry forward till the elections in 2014.

However just after a year ironically with the Commonwealth Games scam, a whole Pandoras Box was opened and skeletons came tumbling out of the cupboard, leading to its humiliating defeat in 2014, and Dr. Manmohan Singh though a man of probity and integrity was hauled over the coals, witnessing an agonizing period in the latter half of his stewardship.

In May 2010 the Conservative Party with 298 seats formed a coalition with the Liberal Democrats with 47 votes due its relatively poor showing in Scotland and Wales.

In the elections held on 7th May 2015 the Conservatives won 302 seats and formed the Government without an alliance.


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The results of the elections in India were announced on 16th May 2009. Jupiter was at Aquarius 1 degree. On 28th July 2010 the Central Vigilance Commission published a report showing irregularities in 14 CWG projects. Jupiter was at 9 degrees Pisces. The arc is 38 degrees.

The impact was felt after about 3 months, around October/ November 2010 when the stock market reached a peak on 5th of November and headed south.

On 7th May 2015 when the elections were held in UK, Jupiter was at 19 degrees Cancer. Adding 38 degrees we come to 27 degrees Leo which Jupiter comes to on 27th July 2016. Taking Jupiters move into Virgo on August 11th 2016, and taking the events of 1956, 1992, and 1997, it is likely that the Conservative Party will be on the backfoot and face very rough weather till the next elections to be held after 4 years, when the Labour Party is likely to return with a wave.
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http://www.bbc.com/news/politics/eu_referendum

. Sat Nov 28, 2015 3:12 am
In the horoscope of David Cameron the Dasa of Sun/Mars lasts roughly from mid March 2016 to July 2016 and that of Sun/Rahu from July 2016 to June 2017. These sub periods especially that of Rahu could have very negative repercussions on the career of David Cameron.


Sat Nov 28, 2015 3:12 am
In politics and economics Black Wednesday refers to 16 September 1992 when the British Conservative government was forced to withdraw the pound sterling from the European Exchange Rate Mechanism (ERM) after it was unable to keep the pound above its agreed lower limit in the ERM.
Britain has voted to Leave the EU dealing another blow to the fortunes of David Cameron. This inspite of the brutal murder of Jo Cox, the British Labour Party politician, the Member of Parliament for the Batley and Spen constituency, which had seemed to swing the wave in back in favor of the Remain camp. The trends will get more aggravated in the days and months ahead and there could be the inevitable spiral for David Cameron. The next few months could be especially dramatic. Boris Johnson's chart signals an up move.
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06 ... define-hi/

. Sun Oct 25, 2015 3:46 am
(c) the movements of Jupiter and Saturn are similar to those that obtained during the Suez crises in1956/57 when the then Prime Minister Anthony Eden had to resign.
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[quote="Haresh Kumar"]
In the horoscope of David Cameron the Dasa of Sun/Mars lasts roughly from mid March 2016 to July 2016 and that of Sun/Rahu from July 2016 to June 2017. These sub periods especially that of Rahu could have very negative repercussions on the career of David Cameron.

Jupiter enters Virgo on 11th August 2016 and Libra on 12th Sept 2017. Jupiter will be transiting the third from his natal Moon which may prove somewhat adverse.

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Well done on your prediction Haresh! As per BBC news Cameron is quitting.
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Re: UK PAST AND FUTURE - David Cameron
Postby Haresh Kumar » 28 Nov 2015, 18:42

In the horoscope of David Cameron the Dasa of Sun/Mars lasts roughly from mid March 2016 to July 2016 and that of Sun/Rahu from July 2016 to June 2017. These sub periods especially that of Rahu could have very negative repercussions on the career of David Cameron.

Jupiter enters Virgo on 11th August 2016 and Libra on 12th Sept 2017. Jupiter will be transiting the third from his natal Moon which may prove somewhat adverse.
Exellent prediction. Please continue to do your good work. I am very impressed with your orignal work. regards
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Hi,

Thank you sg1402. Thank you Anuradha. You should keep up your large output. There are many astrological insights and gems in your posts, including those culled from classical sources. They often work very well in practice.

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Dear Haresh,
Congrats on such an accurate prediction.I have read your posts in the past and they are both interesting and thorough.I keep coming back to the community especially to read such articles.
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Dear All,

David Cameron..started the Sun MD in May 2015 and while 12th Lord with the lagna is a weakness ..it's not all bad for him during the Sun MD

--Sun is also in the role as the karak for executive rise sitting with the lagna...he was reelected at the start of Sun MD

--his set-back is temporary
The activation of the 12th house of losses i.e Leo under the triple aspect of Jup, Sat and Rahu has caused a temporary set-back...
12th house will get deactivated when Jup transits to Virgo on 18th Aug and will shield his lagna.
Sun's executive affects will supersede the 12th house losses after 18th Aug2016

--he had a great run in the Venus MD ...debilitated Venus sits with the lagna and attains NeechBhanga through exaltation of Jup in the 11th.
and Further Jup ruling quadrants 4/7 is in a very very strong Gajkesrai yoga in exaltation in the 11th with moon in swakshetra..as strong a gajkesari that one will find in a chart.

--dasamsa is powerful...with lagna lord Moon in swakshetra...the chart has too many strengths and foundations are quite strong for the native to fall permanently.....
and his super-strong Moon MD is yet to come from 2021 for 10 years....

--also bear in mind shani in transit is retro until 13th Aug and hence any results we see are apparent, situation is in flux....shani dev has not passed his final verdict on situations.....truer results will come around 13th Aug....as shani will go direct,

and it may be that Cameron stays on-->in a king-maker / super influencer role....it could be that UK breaks into smaller parts and he gets into an important role in England......OR he could be the one strategically negotiating the way back of UK into some kind of compromise position into the EU.

I don't know exactly how the chips will fall for Cameron....what I see here is a flux/ an interim situation...and not the final verdict....and that he will continue to be an important stakeholder in the processes from here. This native cannot fall permanently


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David Cameron was born on 9th October 1966 at 6.00 am at London England. GDT 1 (Daylight Saving Time). The Moon was at 13.24.31 in Cancer. The Lahiri Ayanamsa for the date is 23.23.32 . The Sayana equivalent given by Astro Data Bank is 6.48 Leo. . The General Elections in the United Kingdom were held on 7th May 2015. Sun Dasa as per the longitude of Moon started on 1st June 2015
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Haresh Kumar wrote:David Cameron was born on 9th October 1966 at 6.00 am at London England. GDT 1 (Daylight Saving Time). The Moon was at 13.24.31 in Cancer. The Lahiri Ayanamsa for the date is 23.23.32 . The Sayana equivalent given by Astro Data Bank is 6.48 Leo. . The General Elections in the United Kingdom were held on 7th May 2015. Sun Dasa as per the longitude of Moon started on 1st June 2015

Dear Haresh,
Yes I have the same chart.....Sun MD starts 29th May 2015
he was sworn in as PM around the 20th May 2016.....his life had already started trasnition into Sun MD...
and an unfavorable MD wouldn't let a native become a Prime Minister of worlds's one of strongest country a few days before the start.
and hsi ride has been good in the last 12 months but for the unexpected Brext result
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Shilpaji,

There is also the question of the Panama papers which came out after the Sun Dasa started. This is a generational fault line. Moreover even assuming your program gives 29th May as the start date of Sun Dasa there is still a time lag of 23 days from the election date when the ballots were cast. If the events of 1992, and 1956 are taken into context the main impact has not been felt. These are just the initial tremors.

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Dear Haresh...you may be right
near term time will tell
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