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Dear Members,

All the while I was thinking what role a Nakshatra plays on planets or planets play when placed on specific nakshatra in ones chart. Yes if a planet sits on certain nakshatra, we have to look for nakshatra lord( planet) and see where that planet is placed in ones chart. But each planet has approximately 3 nakshatras, what does each nakshatra signify.

How do we co relate? I have seen some astrologers whom I know look for thara bala & predict. If tara bala is auspicious then can we predict that planet will do good for the native, even if this placement is in dustana. Or vice versa what to read if the thara bala is inauspicious but planet placement is trikona or kona.

For example: Magha, its main symbol is throne, it give a picture of royality, power, status & honour, the bottom line of the symbolism means achievement. But it is ruled by Ketu. In the material realm, Magha bestows this reward on natives under its influence through power, Position, authority; and in the higher aspect, through seif knowledge. Wherever this nakshatra is placed in a chart one will experience the positive effects of one's past karmas Magha is considered to be an Active nakshatra. Magha's naturally fiery nature promotes activity and dynamism. It is Magha's striving for a sense of achievement and glory which makes it pursue an active way of life.
It belongs to water element & Its a watery nakshatra( even though in Leo, fire sign) in the sense that it is like an ocean and represents the expansive watery side of Ketu,

What if 10th house lord venus is sitting in this nakshatra. For venus its enemy sign(leo) but Ketu is friend/neutral to Venus & more over its watery nakshatra. Venus is water & sitting on water nakshatra. Will Venus sitting on this nakshatra do well?

Similarly can some one please explain with examples?


Hope I am clear with my question.

Look forward to the participation from all the members.

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Any one?
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You haven't gone deeper yet, each nakshatra has 4 padas - these padas or divisions are ruled by different planets as well. This is obviously very in-depth astrology written by ravana. Ketu represents Root which is why the ruler of Magha and Moola is ketu. Moola nakshatra is at the center of milky way galaxy, immensely powerful and is the source of all life and everything that 'grows', it is the source of every star in the galaxy. Therefore a strong ketu is necessary for everything- be it the foundation of your house, or your office or the child bearing capacity.

Venus in the 10th house gives results as per it's placement, but if you dig deeper you'll find that each placement has an impact on other houses, the planet maintains a connection not only through planetary aspects but through nakshatra and pada lords as well.
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Sir,

i think you did not understand my question, i understand there are 4 padas for each nakshatra. My query is what does each PADA in nakshatra represent for planet placed in it. Venus & Magha was just an example.

Hope i am clear now.

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Patriot wrote:Sir,

i think you did not understand my question, i understand there are 4 padas for each nakshatra. My query is what does each PADA in nakshatra represent for planet placed in it. Venus & Magha was just an example.

Hope i am clear now.

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It obviously represents a connection with the Pada and Nakshatra lord- think of it this way- it's like the wiring, through Ketu, venus gives results of the 10th house.
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Hi Elipsis,

Understood that it will be connected through nakshatra lord, but that particular nakshatra would be having certain characteristics, how to connect that with the planet placed.

Also please give us some insight about tara bala.

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Tarabala is generally used to calculate auspicious muhurtas, instead of houses- they calculate the planets from the moon sign

1st planet: moon
2nd planet from the moon is the planet of wealth and partnerships
etc

same rule as bhavas. To calculate muhurtas, count the nakshatra of the day from your moon sign.

If your birth star is Bharani then it's number will be 2, for example: let's take 10th nakshatra from it,

Poorva Phalguni=10, just remember if the number is greater than 9 just divide it by 9. so 10/9 = 1 reminder.

For Bharani, poorva phalguni is inauspicious.

Numbers: 2,4,6,8 and 9 are auspicious

Read more: http://www.mypanchang.com/tarabalamchakra.php

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Magha Nakshatra would be having the characteristics of the Nakshatra lord Ketu. So if Ketu is the 2nd house you can assume venus is giving results as per the 2nd house. This is not purely vedic astrology but some astrologers use this system. Now you will ask why there are 3 nakshatras lorded by ketu, are they all same then? The answer is No. I can explain why but it would take too long, beyond the scope of this topic.
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Dear Snehal,

You cannot find the original Ravana Samhita, the material available to public isn't the original script. But only bits of it s somehow got leaked into public sphere and some astrologers have tried elaborate on that. I tried very hard to find the originals, one guy has got 30 pages, he lives like 18K ft above sea level and doesn't allow anyone to make copies. I'm sure some foreigners have got the rest. Anyways, there is a large material out there unpublished and protected by schools of astrology in India. Just saying Parashara Hora Shastra isn't the end of the road.

In these texts the authors have laid emphasis on the Stars rather than houses. The planets don't aspect bhavas or houses, they aspect consetallation and stars of a particular bhava. Then more importance is given to Rahu and Ketu, I explained this in a different thread. Let me paste it here:

"Rahu and Ketu are two celestial poles- Ketu gives energy for growth and planetary motions and Rahu enables communication between planets-how do planets aspect houses? What energy they use? How are they able to detect other houses, what is the strength of a conjunction and what enables a conjunction?"

So these questions can't be answered by traditional astrologers because the won't find any published materials on it.

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Thanks for this information. Yes, I also read on someone's blog that one version that is circulating is actually Kerala astrology's Prashna Marga ...

Yes, although Kerala astrology has its place, they use nadi technquires to predict your fortune.

Also, it is amazing that you searched so much for this text! Truly appreciate your commitment to your subject. I am sure the universe will help you in your quest...

Thank you for that. But this isn't my day-job, I'm a computer programmer by profession and going through thousands of lines of code does things to your mind. Spiritualism helps me recharge by batteries.

And, I think I can understand why they may not want to release this info ... my guess is, it could have something to do with the tale of Ravana demanding all the planets to line up in the 11th house ... What I mean is, the information could be powerful ... So, best to pass it on to only those who can use it wisely ... something like that ??!??


Its pretty obvious why they won't release unpublished material. It becomes commercial quite easily. Astrology, Vedas, Medicine are all divine sciences, they came directly from God and anybody making money out it has got another think coming.

Ravana was a genius without any question. Its kind of shocking and confusing at the same time that this guy actually existed. Do you know that he was already aware of Vaastu Shastra? he had a large fish-tank in his house, because he wanted the constant protection of Lord Vishnu, which he got until he made some modifications and messed up the vastu of his palace.



Thanks again for sharing your thoughts on what Ravan Samhita could potentially be about...and if you ever wish to elaborate on it, I am open to knowing more.

I don't claim I know everything. I'll explain as much as possible whenever I can. And I can't explain everything at once because the subject is too vast. Your opinion on Rahu is as good as mine, he creates illusions like no other planet. He has that attraction power, like television for instance- how we stare at it for hours when we know nothing is actually happening in front us, just electricity. So what Rahu says says is :what you experience in life- good or bad is not real. He is the spinal column in human beings, the serpent like cord connected to the brain with the root at the lower end.
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I'm not sure how accurate is this one but I know his chart is very similar to that of Lord Rama. Punarvasu star makes the person desire less which is why Rama didn't have any far fetched schemes to be a king and also it makes the native depend on teachers for the source of knowledge as he is completely dull witted on his own. In Ravana's case, you'll see the thirst for knowledge but coupled with foolishness, which makes me think whether he was actually born in Jyesta star, they tend to be too smart but they make foolish choices that leads to destruction, look at Einstein.

Good find though!
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Well, Einstein himself said he wished to be a plumber as he regretted his choice. The threat of nuclear terrorism looms over every country because the scale of destruction is well documented. His knowledge was used for destructive purposes, there is no way I can justify the use of A-bomb- I'll never buy this push button solutions to resolve issues. The cause of science must benefit humanity, brilliant minds of this world should understand where to draw the line. If one sits down and thinks quietly they'll end up finding innumerable solutions to resolve issues. Ravana represents exactly this- great knowledge and intelligence always do more damage if uncontrolled, when one puts science ahead of humanity that is.

I believe Ravana himself created his own destruction. His knowledge became too much for him to handle. The dull witted punarvasu won and did less damage.
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"I made one great mistake in my life... when I signed the letter to President Roosevelt recommending that atom bombs be made; but there was some justification - the danger that the Germans would make them"

I'm glad he at least acknowledges it. There are many who don't. Great man, nonetheless. I think maybe we should end here, I'm starting to think we are getting carried away by this debate. :lol:
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Elipsis ji I have a similar placement as mentioned in the first post.

I am a Leo ascendant in Magha Pada 2. My Venus the 3rd & 10th lord is in the same pada. It is aspected by 6th & 7th lord Saturn in Dhanista pada 3 in 7th house Aquarius.

How do I interpret this? Does this mean my spouse will be working?

Also my Moon is in Jyestha pada 3 in Scorpio in 4th house. From the Moon my 7th & 12th lord Venus is in 10th.

This again shows a connection between my 7th & 10th house....... What does this mean?
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Its difficult for me to tell 'what it means' unless your question is very specific, because each placement can mean tons of things. If you can give me your birth details with a specific question then it'll be easy for me check.

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Oh! I am really sorry, I forgot to put it in..... DOB:- 22/09/1993 Asansol, W.B , India 03:16a.m .... and I also forgot to mention that Ketu is in 10th house
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I can answer the spouse question, if you are a man - your wife will be educated and employed.
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I really apologize as I couldn't put through my question correctly. What I meant to ask is that while coming to the conclusion about my wife what role did the nakshatras play .......... like how Venus in Magha mutually aspecting Saturn in Dhanista affecting each other?...... and how does Ketu's and Mars' placement affect this?.... Can you please explain this kind sir?
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