saturn & rahu in 12th house in d-9

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shilpimanjani
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in my husband's horosope his saturn is placed in the 4th house and in the navamsa chart it is placed in the 12th house along with rahu.
his B.O.D IS 19TH FEB, 03:42A.M HYDERABAD (INDIA)
I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT WOULD BE THE EFFECT OF THIS PLACEMENT AS HE IS SOON GOING TO ENTER SATURN'S MAHADASA. ALSO, HE HAS A SIZEABLE AMOUNT OF LOAN ON HIS HEAD. WOULD HE BE ABLE TO CLEAR IT OUT PROMPTLY.
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Why your hiding your husband age ? Is he a cinema actor :D

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it has been actually a mistake from my side. he is no cinema actor. only a normal businessman. his B.O.D is 19th feb 1967
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Generally Karaka for loan are Saturn and Mars. If these two planets got very strength in one's chart , then the native have less chances for loan burden.

From his saturn Mars is in 8 House and or from the mars his saturn is in the 6 house - 6 house is the house of Loan. So your worry about the loan
settlement during the saturn dasa makes sense per astrology rules too.

But when looking from the moon sign taurus , saturn is number one Yogakaraka . Moon sign is very important as moon is exalated .
So I believe saturn dasa will give some relief regarding loan .

His mars got weak due to kethu.

My mars is weak and saturn is exalated . My wife's mras is exalated.
After marriage my loan was settled down successfully. :P
This is because of my wife's mars strength and my saturn strength. ( combine work )
How is your mars's strength ?

12 H rahu and sat - I use online Kp software this shows rahu in navamsa lagna not in 12 H. There are 2 Rahu position. one is mean rahu next is true rahu.

I have to check this chart with narayana dasa , unfortunately now My JHora software is not working in my computer. This software only gives narayana dasa . I down loaded latest version 7.33 then not working.
I will fix it within one month . Then remind me later.
Narayana dasa is best dasa for material matters.

If you have this software give me the naraya dasa details . I will explain about the material gains.

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first of all i would like to thank you for your hard work. i will give you the details of narayan dasa. you can also download the jaganatha hora software from its site. its free. he is presently under the cancer mahadasa and the antardasa is as follows:
gem : 22-11-09 to 19-02-10
them he is entring the gemini mahadasa. the antardasa as under:
can: 19-02-10 to 23-10-10
gem: 23-10-10 to 22-06-11
tau :22-06-11 to 19-02-12
ar: 19-02-12 to 23-10-12
pi : 23-10-12 to 21-06-13
aq: 21-06-13 to 19-02-14. i think the next four years are enough.


yes my mars is quite strong as it is yogakarka planet for cancer ascendants and also placed in aries in the 10th house.
my B.OD. IS 11TH MARCH 1972.
TIME 03:24 P.M.
PLACE : KANPUR(U.P)
YOU CAN CHECK IT OUT YOURSELF. ALSO PLEASE TELL ME HOW MY STARS ARE. I HAVE JUST ENTERED THE JUPITER MAHADASA ACCORDING TO VIMSOTTARI DASA AND MY JUPITER IS PLACED IN ITS OWN HOUSE IN THE 6TH.
IN NAVAMSA JUP IS WITH VENUS IN CANCER IN THE 7TH HOUSE.
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Namaskar,

Jupiter is 6th lord and 9th lord . First 8 yrs jupiter dasa will give the results of the 6 th house of Loan too. Another later part 8 yrs , ju dasa will give the 9th house results - good results . Complete recovery of the loan.

However 2011 and 2012 narayanadsa will give gooed results to settle some amount of the loan.

Most important issue in your horoscope is that You were born on Ekadasi
Thithi. This is the 11 th Ththi.


Those who born on this thithi day strugulle a lot in their life.

11 th is Rudra - fighting - So they have to fight to survive in their life.
More obstacles comes in their life.

So you must fast ( Vrata ) on every Ekadasi thithi which come two times in a month. ( Waxing and Wanning moon ).

This Vrata is very important to you if you want come out of the problems in your life.

Your chart clearly shows that Prayers Poojas will give you good result.

So start this Vrata , fasing from morning and till evening on Ekadasi Thithis.

Very first I noticed your birth Thithi and now I am writing.

regards,

siva sarasali
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thanks for your study and interest in my horosope. I have two things to clarify.
you have stated that jupiter will give 6th house results in the first 8 years. would those results be good or bad. do you mean to say that i would not be able to clear loans in first 8 years?
second, as the sixth house rules health problems also, would i face problems on that front too.
overall, are the first 8 years of jupiter's dasa not good for me.
please clarify.
jupiter in my d-9 chart is in the seventh house (rules the 12th and 3rd house) together with venus(ruler of 5th and 10th house). what would be the effects of that.
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Namaskar to all,

What Guruji Sarajit Poddar says from Singapore,

If the lords of a Kendhira or a Kona own simultaneously an evil Bhava,
he doen't not cause Raja Yoga by mere relations stipulated.

( as per ch 34 slokas 11 and 12 . BPHS ).

For a Raja Yogam to form , the lords of the Kendhira or Kona shouldn't
simultaneously rule a Trishadya house.

Trishadya houses are 3 -6 and 11 . ( lords )

Under these circumtances , planets give results as per natural strength of Bhavas.

1-4-7-10 stronger than 3-6-11.

3-6-11 stronger than 5- 9 bhavas.

order of the strength .( increasing ) 2-12-5-9-3-6-11-8-1-4-7-10.

So in your case Jupiter is the 6 th lord and also 9th lord.

six lord jupiter is in the 6 house. Than the 9th bhava 6th bhava got more strength as per Bhava's natural strength.


So jupiter's first 8 years dasa will not so good for the COMPLETE recovery of your loan.

(hummm it took more than three hours to discover these pointers which I read earlier )

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thanks for your hard work. i really appreciated it and am obliged.
i wanted to discuss a point which has striked me suddenly after reading your analysis. in my husband's chart saturn is placed in the 4th house. i had read somewhere that if a malefic planet is sitting in the kendras, that house get effected and loses its(the house) power but it(the malefic planet) loses its malefic power and becomes benefic and during its dasha gives benefic results.
is it true and if yes please elaborate and explain.
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Namaskar,

Good question - If saturn is in the 4 th house , then it is good for saturn planet and bad for the 4 th house.

Take Narayan chart who is our forum member.

Kumbha lagnam saturn in 4 H - This is good for saturn Planet but bad for 4th house matters such as comforts .

Take Dr B.V.Raman's chart . like narayanan's chart he is also Kumbha lagnam , a philoshophical sing. His saturn is in the 4th house.
One of the 4 th house matters suffereed . HE lost his mother very early and missed mother's comforts.

But his saturn got some sort of strength - well versed the traditional subject astrology ( traditional subjet by saturn too ).

But in your husband chart , Moon sign is Taurus and exalated moon.
So we have to look the saturn from the moon sign too.

No doubt he is famous in his area. His name is well known to many people - whom he doesn't know , those people know him.

Is it true ?

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very true,
he is very famous in his business as well as area. many times people come and wish him and he doesn't know who they are, so they introduce themselves.
but as per your theory he should miss the 4th house comforts. but in real life he enjoys all of them pertaining to a good house, conveyance etc. but it has taken him a long struggle and hard work to build these luxuries. he has been a hardworker since the age of 18.
his parents expired in 2008. both of them were good people and loved him a lot. though his mother loved her younger son more than him but was kind towards my husband too. he has also served both of them with utmost love and passion even when they were very ill.
maybe one of the reasons is that is venus is placed in the 4th house too together with saturn. what do you think?
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